Which porki heritage is this learned gentleman referring to? The Indic heritage that his fellow people are slowly usurping day by day?Let the two Saarc nations, India and Pakistan, improve their relations. This will encourage both the Pakistanis and the Indians to respect their respective cultural heritages also.
The Indian Army was put on alert following heavy exchange of fire at the India-Pakistan border in Jammu and Kashmir early on Tuesday following a major infiltration bid, defence sources said on Tuesday as the country celebrated its 61st Republic Day.
The firing, at the Kanachak sector near Akhnoor, 30 km northwest from Jammu, started at 2 am and went on four hours. Officials said Pakistani Rangers provided covering fire to a group of infiltrators. The BSF men retaliated and the guns fell silent around 6 am.
Afghanistan intelligence has said fighters smuggled over the border from Pakistan were responsible for a recent assault on government targets in the Afghan capital.
Dilbu wrote:Heavy firing at India-Pakistan border in J&K, Army on alertThe Indian Army was put on alert following heavy exchange of fire at the India-Pakistan border in Jammu and Kashmir early on Tuesday following a major infiltration bid, defence sources said on Tuesday as the country celebrated its 61st Republic Day.
The firing, at the Kanachak sector near Akhnoor, 30 km northwest from Jammu, started at 2 am and went on four hours. Officials said Pakistani Rangers provided covering fire to a group of infiltrators. The BSF men retaliated and the guns fell silent around 6 am.
Today, one can safely point to Pakistan for any terrorist attack anywhere in the world involving Islami jihadists, even before investigation starts and it would be always correct. There is still no punishment of any sort for Pakistan. Instead, it is getting more and more rewarded. The toughest one has seen was the 'back to stone age' threat by Armitage and some GUBO sessions whenever TSP demurred. Beyond that, Pakistan has been only showered with arms, funds and gratitude for over 8 years now. For its part, Pakistan continues to take the 3½ friends for a grand ride by double crossing them at will and having the last laugh. Just in the latter part of last year, did one see some tough calls on financial aid from the Friends and that too was because of the general meltdown rather than any serious attempt at disciplining and punishing a grossly errant state which is far more dangerous than North Korea and Iran combined. Pakistan is not a nuisance, it is a menace and we need to recognize that fact.Bhima wrote:Kabul attack 'linked to Pakistan'
Afghanistan intelligence has said fighters smuggled over the border from Pakistan were responsible for a recent assault on government targets in the Afghan capital.
Blindly accepting or rejecting anything would make us Pakis.shiv wrote:Well there you are!! The father of the nation said this.
An interesting (to me) corollary is that if we accept the Mahatma's views on this we must be ready to accept his views on a lot of other things, and vice versa if we reject his views. That tickles me ..
. No doubt any team finds the going tough against Ozzies in Ozzie land, but TSP's obsession with India stands in contrast to anything they are willing to take from any quarters.
Indian Premier League Chairman (IPL) Lalit Modi on Tuesday denied any government role in Pakistani players' non-selection at the auction and said cricketers from across the border still have chance to be a part of the cash-awash Twenty20 event.
"Some teams have still not finished their quota of players and some players could drop out, franchises can choose Pakistani players as replacements or to fill vacancies," he said.
This is absolutely great from Lalit Modi, now Dildo Khan can put his money where his mouth is.CRamS wrote:While TSP is busy firing at Indian troops and pushing terrorists into J&K showing no signs of any abatement in their use of terror as a state policy, Indians talk of love making, and now seem to have given in to TSP whining and blackmailing:Indian Premier League Chairman (IPL) Lalit Modi on Tuesday denied any government role in Pakistani players' non-selection at the auction and said cricketers from across the border still have chance to be a part of the cash-awash Twenty20 event.
"Some teams have still not finished their quota of players and some players could drop out, franchises can choose Pakistani players as replacements or to fill vacancies," he said.
Well, so the worst fears of Dilli are coming true then?Pakistan's calculation in Afghanistan is also coming true, namely the exit of the NATO forces. It therefore needs to cause as much damage to Karzai as possible and ensure the return of the Taliban. It has already promised the US that it can bring the Quetta shura around and make them partake power in the Karzai government as a prelude to complete takeover at a later date. So, the Pakistani plan is working after all.
Read the bolded part of the text as well as the rest of it, the context that he is talking about riots (Multan in this case) will become clear.vera_k wrote:It was not said in response to any particular event, but was his opinion of the truth. The passage below is from The Essential Writings . But right before this passage, he goes on to say that his concept of non-violence only applies to quarrels between races/religions and for the purpose of achieving swaraj.
There is no doubt in my mind that in the majority of quarrels the Hindus come out second best. My own experience but confirms the opinion that the Mussalman as a rule is a bully, and the Hindu as a rule is a coward. I have noticed this in railway trains, on public roads, and in the quarrels which I had the privilege of settling. Need the Hindu blame the Mussalman for his cowardice? Where there are cowards, there will always be bullies. The say that in Saharanpur the Mussalmans looted houses, broke open safes and, in one case, a Hindu woman's modesty was outraged. Whose fault was this? Mussalmans can offer no defence for the execrable conduct, it is true. But I as a Hindu am more ashamed of Hindu cowardice than I am angry at the Mussalman bullying. Why did not the owners of the houses looted die in the attempt to defend their possessions? Where were the relatives of the outraged sister at the time of the outrage? Have they no account to render of themselves? My non-violence does no admit of running away from danger and leaving dear ones unprotected. Between vilence and cowardly flight, I can only prefer violence to cowardice. I can no more preach non-violence to a coward than I can tempt a blind man to enjoy healthy scenes. Non-violence is the summit of bravery. And in my own experience, I have had no difficulty in demonstrating to men trained in the school of violence the superiority of non-violence. As a coward, which I was for years, I harboured violence. I began to prize non-violence only when I began to shed cowardice. Those Hindus who ran away from the post of duty when it was attended with danger did do so not because they were non-violent, or because they were afraid to strike, but because they were unwilling to die or even suffer any injury. A rabbit that runs away from the bull-terrier is not particularly non-violent. The poor thing trembles at the sight of the terrier and runs for very life. Those Hindus who ran away to save their lives would have been truly non-violent and would have covered themselves with glory and added lustre to their faith and won the friendship of their Mussalman assailants, if they had stood bare breast with smiles on their lips, and died at their post. They would have done less well, although still well, if they had stood at their post and returned blow for blow. If the Hindus wish to convert the Mussalman bully into a respecting friend, they have to learn to die in the face of the heaviest odds.
What you are proposing is an area-averaged time of M rule.shiv wrote:Folks - I have a suggestion - but it involves WORK! I am unlikely to do that work because of my own lack of knowledge of historic details at my fingertips. This is with regard to the 1000 year rule. There is a way of summing up history and I will give an example.
Imagine I have an acre of arable land
1991 - I manage to use 5% of the land for agriculture
1992 - I manage to use 10% of the land for agriculture
1993- I manage to use 20% of the land for agriculture
1994 - I manage to use 100% of the land for agriculture
1995 - I manage to use 25 % of the land for agriculture
Now I may claim that I use 100% of the land based on my 1994 experience, but average usage of land for 5 years from 1991 - 5 = (5+10+20+100+25)/5= 31%. A look at the figures shows that for 80% of the time I was unable to use more than 25% of the land.
What is needed is an Excel chart of area of Mughal empire versus decade. A lot of info can be gleaned that way. Heartache and takleef can be removed. Using the time slice as decade rather than year will make it easier.
Haram statement! Pious abdul's celebrating IED-Mubaraks is not terrorism per al-kitaab.Pakistani Interior Minister Rehman Malik has said that 1,780 incidents of terrorism occurred in the country since April 2009, killing as many as 2,072 people, local media reported Tuesday. Malik told the National Assembly, Lower House of the parliament, that the casualties included 565 members of the law enforcing agencies. He said 6,253 persons had been injured in these attacks, including 1,590 security personnel.
About steps taken to control terrorism, he said activists belonging to different banned organizations including 1,762 from Punjab are under surveillance...
A self goal.milindc wrote:
This is absolutely great from Lalit Modi, now Dildo Khan can put his money where his mouth is.
Lets see the consequences.
He's talking about Saharanpur in that instance, which IIRC is in UP. Is there a Saharanpur in the Punjab?Dipanker wrote:Read the bolded part of the text as well as the rest of it, the context that he is talking about riots (Multan in this case) will become clear.
vera_k wrote:He's talking about Saharanpur in that instance, which IIRC is in UP. Is there a Saharanpur in the Punjab?Dipanker wrote:Read the bolded part of the text as well as the rest of it, the context that he is talking about riots (Multan in this case) will become clear.
I agree. Again, it is all business:)CRamS wrote:I had the hunch right from the beginning that us BR jingos were celebrating prematurely :-(. Just a matter of time before formal announcement is made.
Don't think Paki players will be allowed by PCB/Pakistan to play in IPL3. PCB has already said no Paki players in IPL4.CRamS wrote:I had the hunch right from the beginning that us BR jingos were celebrating prematurely :-(. Just a matter of time before formal announcement is made.
No boss, no chanakyan strategy onlee. Its India making concession, making love and more offers of love; all in the vain hope that TSP will stop terror. But TSP is a tough cookie, each concession from India only stiffens their resolve; just notice what is happening in J&K as we speak.Satya_anveshi wrote: Recall...I said in my posts, Cricket attracts about 90-95% sports fans in Pakistan (same with India). This is a way of indirectly communicating with that population. I also said, we gained a good leverage on how/when/where to deal with pakistan by dangling carrots and perceptions.
Actually, both those links only strengthen my belief that is a myth perpetrated by Pakis. Rosser's allusion is not to an IG quote, but to a Paki conspiracy theory. As for the book review, the Paki reviewer couldn't even get the grammar right in the alleged quote.VikramS wrote:
Google shows up some sources which seem to be TSP related discussion boards.
This book review seems to be more reliable.
http://www.qaisersaleem.com/html/book_reviews.html
Yvette Rosser alludes to it.
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/104770
Sure, but what has India got out of this? Through this insult and subsequenvt caving in, has it made a dent in TSP's terror strategy? Thats the question we need to ask.Nandu wrote:An insult is an insult even if some accommodation is made later.
CRamS garu,CRamS wrote:Sure, but what has India got out of this? Through this insult and subsequenvt caving in, has it made a dent in TSP's terror strategy? Thats the question we need to ask.Nandu wrote:An insult is an insult even if some accommodation is made later.
By Griff Witte
Sunday, January 17, 2010
ISLAMABAD, PAKISTAN -- With a curriculum that glorifies violence in the name of Islam and ignores basic history, science and math, Pakistan's public education system has become a major barrier to U.S. efforts to defeat extremist groups here, U.S. and Pakistani officials say.
Western officials tend to blame Islamic schools, known as madrassas, for their role as feeders to militant groups, but Pakistani education experts say the root of the problem is the public schools in a nation in which half of adults cannot sign their own name. The United States is hoping an infusion of cash -- part of a $7.5 billion civilian aid package -- will begin to change that, and in the process alter the widespread perception that Washington's only interest in Pakistan is in bolstering its military.
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Haven't we had enough of this already?CRamS wrote:Sure, but what has India got out of this? Through this insult and subsequenvt caving in, has it made a dent in TSP's terror strategy? Thats the question we need to ask.Nandu wrote:An insult is an insult even if some accommodation is made later.
Mumbai 26/11 too was staged by the Indian agencies and Israeli Lobby working in India under US directions. Mumbai Nov26 had the signature of western-trained operatives: commandos arrival quietly by dinghy to shore, quickly mobilizing to urban terrain, navigating & communicating with high-tech sys is a specific skill taught by Navy elite to Marines, CIA spec ops (aka SOG).A pan-South Asian struggle against Imperialism & Zionism is the need of the hour. A South Asia free of the US-European & Israeli Imperialists is the need of the hour & is our patriotic calling. It is clear that the US, or rather Obama, cannot win the war in Afghanistan, even stabilize the land & thus they are increasingly desperate. The only country that can provide them with the human power in the region is India. The US war, is not humanity war. The NATO Axis evils seek to make it everyone’s war & for that they will stage false-flag terror attacks. Without terrorisms not capitalism, colonialism and imperialism canto survive.India, unlike Pakistan or BD, has vast “resources”, including stolen, to its terror credit and these are used freely to advance its interests. Signaling undercurrent and simmering tensions in the India-Pakistan relations following the IPL row and a rise in ceasefire violations, Pakistani Foreign Minister See Me Qureshi and
Had Indian govt stuck to its original stand, someone, I believe it was Tiwari who said (I am paraphrasing) Indian govt had nothing to do with IPL, but at the same time, instead of mass hysteria, TSP must look at its own conduct to see why IPL franchises felt it was risky to pick TSPians. That was a dignified and mature position.archan wrote: 3) The private entity said we took the decisions solely based on business. They don't even claim to have any nationalistic/patriotic reasoning behind those decisions.
4) The govt. said they had nothing to do with it. They in fact, regret the decisions.
So why do we keep claiming "India did this, India did that"? can we please stop coloring everything with "strategic" colors? events have their own dynamics and no amount of jumping up and down on internet fora is going to affect it.
It is just a friggin' sport and it is being blown out of proportions.
therefore i am sorry to say, until we start behaving like a great nation, we deserve the paquisCRamS wrote:Does all this not show that India cannot make a decision, even if it makes business sense, if it hurts TSP's H&D.