J & K news and discussion

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 21 Jan 2010 15:20

It's no secret that pak wants Yindia to discover and furthwer, broadcast paki traces found in every terror attack in Yinida.

Despite paki handlers caught, repeatedly I may add, on tape instructing and micromanaging nanga mujahids during terror strikes, the same pattern continues with impunity suggesting the pakis no longer care about being found out.

And then they whine about exclusion from IPL.

James B · Post by **James B** » 22 Jan 2010 01:25

Govt lifts ban on pre-paid phones in J& K

The Central Government has lifted the ban on prepaid mobile phones in Jammu and Kashmir, a Home Ministry official said Thursday.

The ban was imposed last year after the government cited security reasons in the terror-riven state.

"We have asked for stringent identity check of prepaid mobile subscribers after which telecom operators can issue prepaid SIM cards," said the official speaking on condition of anonymity.

Again GoI opening gates for easy access to SIMs to terrorists

sum · Post by **sum** » 22 Jan 2010 21:58

Pakistani gets 6 year RI for firing at Indian army, police

A Delhi [ Images ] court sentenced a Pakistani national to six years rigorous imprisonment on Friday for opening fire at the police and army personnel in an encounter during search operation in Jammu and Kashmir [ Images ] in 2004.

Zafar-ul-Haq, in his early 30s, was also imposed with a fine of Rs 3,000 by Additional Sessions Judge Brijesh Sethi after being held guilty of attempt to murder under the Ranbir Penal Code in vogue in Jammu and Kashmir and other offences under the Arms Act.

The trial of Haq, who hailed from Haripur Frontier Province in Pakistan, was transferred to Delhi from a court of Poonch on an order of the Supreme Court on November 10, 2008.

"It stands proved that on January one, 2004, the accused, along with his companion Shaukat Ali, had opened fire upon the army and police officials, and during the exchange of firing, Ali had expired and the accused had received injuries and from his possession 60 live cartridges and four magazines were recovered," the court said.

Any foreign national, come oer to India, have a go at any of our armed forces and get only 6 years RI. Only in Desh

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 22 Jan 2010 23:26

Gunbattle between LeT militants and security forces in Kulgam

A gunbattle broke out on Friday night between two suspected Lashkar-e-Toiba militants holed up in a house and security forces at Koimoh-Rampur in Kulgam district of South Kashmir.

The security forces encircled the house on a tip-off about the presence of the militants in the house, sparking an intermittent exchange of fire between the two sides, official sources here said.

There was no report of casualty in the exchange of fire.

Security forces suspended the flush-out operation in the congested locality at night in order to avoid civilian casualties, they said adding the action would resume on Saturday morning.

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 23 Jan 2010 00:23

James B wrote:Govt lifts ban on pre-paid phones in J& K

Again GoI opening gates for easy access to SIMs to terrorists

How come letting people enjoy this basic telephone facility equivalent to helping terrorists ?
Is it any difficult for terrorists to procure post-paid SIMs from rest of India and use them in J&K ?. Security checks even in case of pre-paid SIMs are much more stringent than post-paids else where in India.

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 23 Jan 2010 01:46

jamwal wrote: How come letting people enjoy this basic telephone facility equivalent to helping terrorists ?
Is it any difficult for terrorists to procure post-paid SIMs from rest of India and use them in J&K ?. Security checks even in case of pre-paid SIMs are much more stringent than post-paids else where in India.

jamwal,

what you said is true. However post paid sims once bought can only be used for 1 or 2 months before paying off the bill. Somebody connected will need to be at that particular address to pay that bill. So the house address registered and all leaves a paper trial. So they cant be bought in say calcutta and then sent to Kashmir and the numbers propagated back to their handlers and thrown away all within 1 month to buy a new set once again.

While prepaid sims once bought can be used for a long time without any paper trial. Regarding stringent, we all know corruption in India.

Avinash R · Post by **Avinash R** » 23 Jan 2010 10:27

12 years after Wandhama Massacre, still no justice

Avinash R · Post by **Avinash R** » 23 Jan 2010 10:30

Top Hizb-ul-Mujahideen militant killed by troops in Jammu
Saturday, January 23, 2010 10:09 IST

Jammu: A top Hizb-ul-Mujahideen operative was gunned down last evening by the troops in an encounter in Kishtwar district of Jammu and Kashmir. In the ensuing gunbattle which lasted for more than two hours a top ranking Hizb militant Tariq Lone alias Azhar was killed.
...
Lone was wanted in connection with a number of militant activities including the killing of senior leader of the ruling National Conference Gul Mohammad last year.

One AK rifle, one pistol, grenades and a radio set were recovedred from the site of the encounter...

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 23 Jan 2010 12:51

Why would MoD and the intell wings issue a NOC to the pre-paid services in J&K unless they're confident and have m,ade suitable arrangements already to tap, tape, track and trip the paki perps attempting to misuse the system? Just wondering only.

Or has the GoI lost its marbles only? Could it be that Aman ki asha is actually a GoI sponsored enterprise instead of a khan sponsored one?

sum · Post by **sum** » 23 Jan 2010 22:03

6 terrorists supposed to have escaped in 2 separate encounters in last 24 hours ( according to HT channel).

I thought the days of pigs breaking security cordons and disappearing after long encounters was long over.

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 25 Jan 2010 00:22

http://www.groundreport.com/World/Kashm ... _3/2916612

Kashmiri Pandits lambast Congress Spokesperson’s statement;call him a ‘separatist spokesperson
by Vijay Kumar January 24, 2010

New Delhi,January 24 (Vijay Kumar) - Roots In Kashmir, a frontline global youth initiative of Kashmiri Pandits on Sunday condemned statement of Congress Spokesperson Manish Tiwari stating that Kashmiri Pandits were driven out of the valley in 1990 due to "fear psychosis of Governor Jagmohan". On Saturday , during a news debate (Big Fight on NDTV) on Constitutional reforms when a panelist raised the issue of forced exodus of Pandits due to terrorism and failure of the Indian Constitution to protect them; Manish Tiwari intervened and said ‘we should know the real reason why Pandits left, which was due to fear psychosis of then Governor Jagmohan’.

“To escape persecution, more than 5,00,000 Kashmiri Pandits had to leave their home and hearths back in the valley, of which more than 50,000 refugees are still languishing in uninhabitable refugee camps in Jammu” said RIK Chief Coordinator Sanjay Peshin in a statement.

“Then Chief Minister Farooq Abdullah of National Conference (NC), had abandoned his responsibilities and the administration, the state and people lay like cattle on an open road. It was Governor Jagmohan who ensured safety for the minority Pandits who were selectively being targeted by terrorist groups Jammu Kashmir Liberation Front (JKLF) and Hizbul Mujahideen” he added.

Three taped slogans which were repeatedly being played the whole night (19th January 1990) from mosques: ‘Kashmir mei agar rehna hai, Allah-o-Akbar kehna hai’ (If you want to stay in Kashmir, you have to say Allah-o-Akbar); ‘Yahan kya chalega, Nizam-e-Mustafa’ (What do we want here? Rule of Sharia’h); ‘Asi gachchi Pakistan, Batao roas te Batanev san’ (We want Pakistan along with Hindu women but without their men).

The statement of the Congress Spokesperson has hurt the Pandit community which completed two decades in exile on 19th January, 2010. Manish Tiwari certainly needs a crash course in the history of Kashmir. It pains us more to know that the statement comes from a person whose father Prof. V.N. Tiwari was killed in the 1984 riots. Would he have tolerated mockery of his father’s killing?

The illogical and mindless statement comes under the shadow of ‘Quiet Diplomacy’. We Kashmiri Pandits wonder if Manish Tiwari has changed colours and is a ‘separatist spokesperson’! An entire community uprooted from the land of their ancestors is today struggling for its identity. The weak-kneed Indian state shamelessly panders to Islamic terrorists and separatists who claim they are the final arbiters of Jammu and Kashmir’s destiny.

Panun Kashmir, the frontline Pandit organisation demanding separate homeland; also came heavily on the statement of Congress Spokesperson calling it a ‘shame’ and ‘mockery of democracy’. Dr. Agnishekhar, Convenor, Panun Kashmir, said Pandits will protest this statement in public and demand an apology from the Congress leader.

wig · Post by **wig** » 26 Jan 2010 12:24

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Ceasefire ... 01820.aspx
there seems to have been firing during the intervening night of 25 and 26 jan 2010. "some state sponsored non state actors" might have made it accross the border to spread mayhem.
probably we need more high tech instrumentation to prevent them from crossing over and pin pointing their location so that they can be neutralised before they cause harm

sum · Post by **sum** » 26 Jan 2010 13:24

No flag-hoisting in Lal Chowk after 19 years

The national flag was not hoisted by security forces in Lal Chowk, the nerve centre of Srinagar, on the Republic Day today for the first time in 19 years.

The usual hustle and bustle was not there in the heart of the city as people preferred to remain indoors in view of strike call given by separatists as well as tight security measures taken by the authorities.

The tricolour used to be unfurled on the clock tower, popularly known here as "Ghantaghar" in Lal Chowk on the Republic Day and Independence Day since 1991.

The first time the flag was hoisted at the clock tower was in 1991 when then BJP President Murli Manohar Joshi did it amidst rocket attacks by militants.

No official reason was cited for not hoisting the national flag in Lal Chowk, which recently saw a 22-hour terrorist siege. - (Agencies)

Is this somehow related to the "backchannel piss process"?

ashish raval · Post by **ashish raval** » 26 Jan 2010 13:26

coward $hitholes...whoever it is..

vipins · Post by **vipins** » 26 Jan 2010 14:55

Heavy firing at India-Pakistan border in J&K, Army on alert

The firing, at the Kanachak sector near Akhnoor, 30 km northwest from Jammu, started at 2 am and went on four hours. Officials said Pakistani Rangers provided covering fire to a group of infiltrators. The BSF men retaliated and the guns fell silent around 6 am.

The Indian Army has been put on alert along the border, where the first line of defence is provided by the BSF.

ashish raval · Post by **ashish raval** » 26 Jan 2010 16:21

What is stopping India firing Day and Night till puki guns are silent one's and for all. Use Israeli UAV's to Locate puki gun positions and just vaporize it ! I am sick of cowardly responses and timid complains to puki's about firing. We have learned absolutely nothing from last 1000 years !!

Why dont we start a limited war like the one done by pukis in Kargil and capture more peaks which are at our advantage !

kenop · Post by **kenop** » 26 Jan 2010 17:01

jamwal wrote: Is it any difficult for terrorists to procure post-paid SIMs from rest of India and use them in J&K ?. Security checks even in case of pre-paid SIMs are much more stringent than post-paids else where in India.

AFAIK, the cell phone connections from other states do not work in J&K. Two years ago, we were in Jammu with BSNL/Idea/Airlel connection in the group and all stopped working after Madhopur (entry to the state).

sum · Post by **sum** » 26 Jan 2010 22:07

What is stopping India firing Day and Night till puki guns are silent one's and for all. Use Israeli UAV's to Locate puki gun positions and just vaporize it ! I am sick of cowardly responses and timid complains to puki's about firing. We have learned absolutely nothing from last 1000 years !!

Irony is in the midst of all this mayhem by Pak, we will keep discussing and implementing ways to "think out of the box" and "constructively engage the Pakis"

Aditya G · Post by **Aditya G** » 26 Jan 2010 22:31

ashish raval wrote:What is stopping India firing Day and Night till puki guns are silent one's and for all. Use Israeli UAV's to Locate puki gun positions and just vaporize it ! I am sick of cowardly responses and timid complains to puki's about firing. We have learned absolutely nothing from last 1000 years !!
Why dont we start a limited war like the one done by pukis in Kargil and capture more peaks which are at our advantage !

We were pricesly doing that for many years on the LoC with peak in 2002 Op Sangram/Parakram - till the present ceasefire was put in place. The ceasefire is in our interest to us because it puts pressure on ghuspaiths to crossover without cover fire.

We should be prudent and ensure Pakistani design to resume the attrition war is not successful.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 26 Jan 2010 22:47

kenop wrote:
jamwal wrote: Is it any difficult for terrorists to procure post-paid SIMs from rest of India and use them in J&K ?. Security checks even in case of pre-paid SIMs are much more stringent than post-paids else where in India.
AFAIK, the cell phone connections from other states do not work in J&K. Two years ago, we were in Jammu with BSNL/Idea/Airlel connection in the group and all stopped working after Madhopur (entry to the state).

These would have probably worked

Instaphone
Mobilink
Ufone
Telenor
Warid Telecom
Worldcall
ZONG

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 26 Jan 2010 23:26

Post-paid SIMs work. Pre-paid of J&K don't work outside and vice-versa.

ravi_ku wrote:
what you said is true. However post paid sims once bought can only be used for 1 or 2 months before paying off the bill. Somebody connected will need to be at that particular address to pay that bill. So the house address registered and all leaves a paper trial. So they cant be bought in say calcutta and then sent to Kashmir and the numbers propagated back to their handlers and thrown away all within 1 month to buy a new set once again.

While prepaid sims once bought can be used for a long time without any paper trial. Regarding stringent, we all know corruption in India.

You don't need any SIM, post or pre-paid for a long duration if you are a terrorist. Security risks for both is almost same

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 27 Jan 2010 01:14

After 19 yrs , no Tricolour at Lal Chow

It's learnt that the decision against unfurling the flag was taken at the highest level in the state because Tricolour hoisting was seen as a "needless provocation" to the separatist and extremist elements in the area, who have for years been throwing stones at the paramilitary forces positioned there. It was felt by the Omar Abdullah government that there was no traction to be obtained from such symbolic gestures. This also underlines a change in security strategy.

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 27 Jan 2010 02:08

Does anyone still think that the current national govt has an ounce of nationalism? Every action has reeked of anti nationalism and vote bankery.

Airavat · Post by **Airavat** » 27 Jan 2010 08:37

Government does more for Tibetan refugees than POJK refugees

the Tibetan refugees (TR) who entered India much later in the year 1959 got the special attention of the GOI and the world community. The TRs are having a Government in exile in Dharamshala in Himachal Pradesh. They were initially allotted 11 sq.km land in Karnataka in Mysore district and latter three more settlements were allowed in the same state. About 85 exclusive Tibetan schools are functioning in India, Nepal and Bhutan for their educational, language and cultural needs besides reservations in professional colleges. POJK refugees are treated as second class citizens in India and are told , would be sent back as soon India liberates POJK areas from the illegal occupation of Pakistan.

The government which cannot resettle KP's safely in Kashmir, which is within its boundaries, is in no position to talk of reconquering POJK.

They are also demanding defreezing of 8 J&K Assembly seats and two seats in the upper house from the 24 seats frozen for the POJK areas so that their voice is heard in the legislature.....

As China is emerging and claiming as a strong stakeholder in the affairs of Jammu and Kashmir, POJK Refugees feel that the time is running out for their permanent and honourable settlement in J&K.

sum · Post by **sum** » 27 Jan 2010 09:25

It's learnt that the decision against unfurling the flag was taken at the highest level in the state because Tricolour hoisting was seen as a "needless provocation" to the separatist and extremist elements in the area, who have for years been throwing stones at the paramilitary forces positioned there. It was felt by the Omar Abdullah government that there was no traction to be obtained from such symbolic gestures. This also underlines a change in security strategy.

This seals the deal about how "nationalistic" our current GoI is. No way this decision is taken without orders from the higher up.

Some may explain it as pragmatism but i see it as cowardice.

Neshant · Post by **Neshant** » 27 Jan 2010 10:02

It's learnt that the decision against unfurling the flag was taken at the highest level in the state because Tricolour hoisting was seen as a "needless provocation"

Wow that's bullsh*t.

Indian soldiers died defending the place for India.

Who cares what some old gasbag separatists think. Its sillyness pandering to the scoundrels of society.

Avinash R · Post by **Avinash R** » 28 Jan 2010 12:58

Pakistan is foreign aggressor in Kashmir dispute: Gilgit activist

New Delhi, Jan 28 (IANS) Kashmiri separatist leaders should stop taking 'blood money' from Pakistan and realise that Islamabad is using the disputed strategic Himalayan region to secure its economic gains, says an activist from Gilgit-Baltistan in Pakistan-administered Kashmir.'

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 28 Jan 2010 13:26

sum wrote:
It's learnt that the decision against unfurling the flag was taken at the highest level in the state because Tricolour hoisting was seen as a "needless provocation" to the separatist and extremist elements in the area, who have for years been throwing stones at the paramilitary forces positioned there. It was felt by the Omar Abdullah government that there was no traction to be obtained from such symbolic gestures. This also underlines a change in security strategy.

Hmm. I had come to Omar Abdullah's defense a few weeks ago when somebody on BRF compared him to Jinnah. I still don't think he is a "Jinnah" but if he is responsible for dismissing the raising of the national flag on Republic Day as a "provocative symbolic gesture" it's not a good sign at all.

negi · Post by **negi** » 29 Jan 2010 01:05

^ That decision would not have been taken without GOI's approval.

Rupesh · Post by **Rupesh** » 29 Jan 2010 02:50

^^
Flag Hosting decisions are normally taken by the state. GOI is a silent spectator. I'm not sure what MMS is upto. With MKN gone, there is no more Hawks in the PM's immediate circle.

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 29 Jan 2010 03:35

Rupesh wrote:^^
. I'm not sure what MMS is upto. With MKN gone, there is no more Hawks in the PM's immediate circle.

That's what happens when the government, even to the extent of its very composition, is run by remote control from abroad.

The MMS/Maino cabal seem to have little or no ideological commitment... they just do whatever they are told by Washington, presumably for some quid pro quo that the Indian people will never know about. During the Bush administration's tenure, MMS culled the "non-aligned" era Iranophiles who were embarrassing to US foreign policy interests: Natwar Singh and Mani Shankar Iyer (who was negotiating the IPI pipeline). Today it is the hawks who are being purged.

At least from 2004-09 the GOI's dependence on parliamentary support from the Left gave some leverage to drive a bargain with Washington (even though it was disastrous for economic reforms and disinvestment agendas domestically).

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 29 Jan 2010 03:37

negi wrote:^ That decision would not have been taken without GOI's approval.

True, but they are unlikely to insist if Omar Abdullah strongly recommends against it. According to the press report quoted by Sum, the Omar Abdullah government determined that hoisting the national flag on Republic Day was a needless and symbolic gesture.

Airavat · Post by **Airavat** » 29 Jan 2010 05:27

Avinash R wrote:Pakistan is foreign aggressor in Kashmir dispute: Gilgit activist
Beijing is investing in infrastructure building, including upgradation of the Karakoram Highway that connects China and Pakistan and opens a strategically vital trade route to Central Asia.

'The four-way Karakoram highway that is going to open a trade corridor to energy- and mineral-rich Central Asia. The region is set to become China's gateway to the waters off Pakistan's coast. Don't you see a link there?' he said. The highway connects Pakistani cities to Kashgar in Xinjiang province.

Sering is also surprised that nobody in India talks about Gilgit-Baltistan and Chinese illegal investment there. 'I wonder, has India stopped claiming the region?'

This is what the POJK refugees were referring to as China's increasing involvement in J&K. But the GOI has made statements opposing Chinese involvement in Gilgit-Baltistan, it's just that there is little follow up, and no in depth coverage of the occupied region in the media.

Avinash R · Post by **Avinash R** » 29 Jan 2010 14:40

Two jawans killed in J&K encounter

Jammu, January 29, 2010

Two jawans were killed in a fierce gunbattle between militants and troops in Kishtwar district early Friday.

Acting on a tip off, troops of 11 Rashtriya Rifles launched a search operation in Sondar forest belt in Taksham area of the district, nearly 300 km from here, a senior army official said.

During the search, militants fired on the troops and threw grenades, he said, adding the encounter took place as troops fired back.

In the gunbattle, two jawans were killed, the official said.

Police arrest 8 minors on way to PoK

Fri, Jan 29 02:00 PM

Srinagar, Jan. 28 -- The Jammu and Kashmir police on Thursday foiled an exfiltration bid and arrested eight youth in Srinagar, who were planning to cross the border for arms training in PoK. The youth, mostly minors in the age group of 13 to 18 years, belong to the south Kashmir district of Shopian.

This is the first such attempt in 2010 that has been thwarted by the police. According to sources, the boys were picked up by the special operations group of Jammu and Kashmir police following a tip off.

The group was intercepted in Parimpora area of Srinagar, near a police check point. Police officials, however, are tightlipped about the details of the arrested boys and are not confirming or denying the arrests.

However, according to police sources, the youth were lured by militant operatives in south Kashmir and were being shifted to the LoC in north Kashmir, from where they were to be sent across for arms training.

AjayKK · Post by **AjayKK** » 30 Jan 2010 18:03

Care for a History Tutorial, Mr Tewari?

Spokespersons of political parties in India are not quite known for their sagacity. But if ever a foot-in-the-mouth award was instituted for the fraternity, Congress spokesperson Manish Tewari would emerge as the winner.

Ever since he was given the responsibility of tomtomming his party’s achievements and point of view, Tewari has started putting up that I-know-it-all demeanour in TV studios. During a recent TV discussion on constitutional reforms, which veered towards Article 370 and ultimately towards the plight of Kashmiri Pandits, Tewari, in keeping with his self image as the most crafty spin doctor after Alistair Campbell, opined that J&K’s Pandits were driven out due to the fear psychosis of the then Governor, Jagmohan.

Obviously, Kashmiri Pandit groups are not amused. To add insult to injury, Tewari spoke rudely to an elderly Pandit the next day, who called him to register his protest. Tewari reportedly told him to “f*ck off” before banging down the phone.

Shri Manish Tewari exposes his high IQ whenever he opens his mouth. Apart from his language skills and mannerisms which are poor and downright rude, he clearly has "great knowledge" of history.

Avinash R · Post by **Avinash R** » 30 Jan 2010 23:05

Arms and ammunition recovered in J-K

Srinagar, Jan 30 (PTI) Security forces today seized a large quantity of arms and ammunition near Bandipora district of north Kashmir, a defence spokesman said.

Five pistols along with magazines, 318 rounds of ammunition, five grenades and an AK assault rifle were recovered from Chhanapal near the district, 55 kms from here, the spokesman said.

Gunbattle erupts in Sopore

Srinagar, Jan 30 (PTI) A gunbattle broke out between militants and police in Sopore town of north Kashmir this evening, but there were no immediate reports of any casualty or damage.

The gunfight erupted when police cordoned off Khanduj filling station area near the Sopore bus stand after a tip-off that some militants were present there, police said.

The militants, believed to be two in number, started firing indiscriminately on the police party, they said.

The policemen returned the fire and the gunbattle is still on, police said.

sum · Post by **sum** » 30 Jan 2010 23:21

A gunbattle broke out between militants and police in Sopore town of north Kashmir this evening, but there were no immediate reports of any casualty or damage.

Sopore seems to be slowly turning into a mini Pak. Wonder why our counter-intel is not coming up trumps there in the recent past which is allowing so many Pakis to mingle and spread Paki propaganda there?

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 31 Jan 2010 01:15

AjayKK wrote:Care for a History Tutorial, Mr Tewari?

Spokespersons of political parties in India are not quite known for their sagacity. But if ever a foot-in-the-mouth award was instituted for the fraternity, Congress spokesperson Manish Tewari would emerge as the winner.

Ever since he was given the responsibility of tomtomming his party’s achievements and point of view, Tewari has started putting up that I-know-it-all demeanour in TV studios. During a recent TV discussion on constitutional reforms, which veered towards Article 370 and ultimately towards the plight of Kashmiri Pandits, Tewari, in keeping with his self image as the most crafty spin doctor after Alistair Campbell, opined that J&K’s Pandits were driven out due to the fear psychosis of the then Governor, Jagmohan.

Obviously, Kashmiri Pandit groups are not amused. To add insult to injury, Tewari spoke rudely to an elderly Pandit the next day, who called him to register his protest. Tewari reportedly told him to “f*ck off” before banging down the phone.
Shri Manish Tewari exposes his high IQ whenever he opens his mouth. Apart from his language skills and mannerisms which are poor and downright rude, he clearly has "great knowledge" of history.

The sad part is as the article mentioned Tiwari's own father was killed by Khalistani terrorists.Pathetic scum i should say.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 02 Feb 2010 07:26

Youth lash out Geelani, Mirwaiz

This is for the first time in the history of Kashmir when people have criticized and raised slogans against Mirwaiz and that too in the Jamia Masjid lawns. In a bid to pacify the angry youth, the Mirwaiz called for general strike on February 2 against what he called grave violation of human rights in the Valley. This was followed by a similar strike call by Geelani’s Hurriyat.

sum · Post by **sum** » 02 Feb 2010 09:01

They said the on-going movement was movement of the youth and they had been running it effectively. “Stone pelting is an important tool and cannot be done away with”, they said.

There is very little hope for these esteemed citizens ( even if we throw unlimited money and development carrots at them)