Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP), Jan. 29, 2010

rajpa · Post by **rajpa** » 20 Feb 2010 12:13

if the media / public gets better access to the negotiations, i am willing to bet that the len-dhen will drastically improve.

sum · Post by **sum** » 20 Feb 2010 12:14

New Delhi must hold its nerve in the Great Game

Consider this: Since the US forces cannot be seen to vacate Afghanistan with their tails tucked between their legs, they have to notch up few visible conquests to enable them to declare victory and vamoose. So the US has tagged the top jihadi groups to quell. It's no coincidence that all these groups are the proteges and brothers-in-arms of the Pak army. When the surge moves nearer to the Durand Line and beyond into Pakistan, the US will prod the Pak army to target these jihadis on the run.

If Gen Kayani doesn't comply, the US could intensify drone strikes inside Pak territory complemented by ground assault augmented by covert operations by Blackwater agents (Xe Services private military company), even withhold civil and military aid. If he does the US bidding grudgingly, the betrayed jihadi groups could retaliate by targeting his army and the Pak cities. Therefore, Gen Kayani could well find himself between a cannibal and an ogre! Yes, the Pak army could well stew in its own juice.

Once up the dung-filled creek, how can the general wade out of it? Provoke India with another major terrorist attack (or a series of strikes like the recent Pune German Bakery blast), compel India to threaten a military riposte, which can then be parroted as an excuse to remobilise his forces to the eastern border and thereafter duck taking on his jihadi proxies.

Just last month, the visitng US defence secretary Robert Gates had warned India of a major terrorist strike. Well, as we saw above, you don't have to be a clairvoyant or the defence secretary to forecast that.

The rise and rise of the Pakistani Taliban --- currently battling the Pak army -- who are umbilically coupled with their Afghan counterparts, should keep Gen Kayani looking over his shoulder every now and then.

Besides, the Pak army is its worst enemy, for it has unfailingly squandered all its tactical gains through strategic blunders, the prime example being its inability to consolidate its sway over Kabul despite the Taliban interregnum between 1988 and September 2001. Further, history is against it; the Pak army has never proved its capacity to win either war or peace.

Moreover, the bilateral equation with Kabul, the well-cultivated relationship with various ethnic denominations and some tribal chieftains, and the bounteous goodwill of Afghans should stand India in good stead.

Very interesting article...

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 20 Feb 2010 12:30

rajpa wrote:talking itself is not a major problem. the question is of objectives.

Talking is a huge problem. Because it results in terror attacks on Indian soil by actors who wish to cause a break in the talks. The easiest way to prevent attacks like the one on Mumbai or Pune would be to hold fast until internal security is fixed.

AjayKK · Post by **AjayKK** » 20 Feb 2010 12:33

Infiltration in J&K up,but talks fine: Antony

DEFENCE minister A K Antony on Friday said infiltration attempts from across the border had gone up this year but expressed support for the prime ministers view for holding talks with Pakistan.

Mr Antony conceded that there was nothing wrong in holding foreign secretary-level talks even if infiltration bids were on the rise and all the 32 terror camps in Pakistan along the border were active.

`It is a considered decision of the government to have foreign secretary-level talks with Pakistan. There is nothing wrong in that. Everything will now depend on the outcome of the talks, Mr Antony said responding to questions on the decision to talk to Pakistan inspite of the spike in infiltration attempts.

He also revealed that all terror camps along the border in Pakistan were still operating.

Mr Antony said, "All the 32 (terrorist camps in Pakistan) near their border are active even now. This year,the number of infiltration attempts has also gone up.All the terror outfits are still active and that is our main concern but despite this...

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 20 Feb 2010 12:35

JE Menon wrote:My point rather was that if Pakistan's jihad against India has to be ended, then the elites - specifically the Westernised elite which controls this whole operation, using a range of gullible morons, while smugly going back in escorted cars to their colony mansions and farm houses - need to feel the pain up close and personal, and the message should be conveyed as to the reason for that pain. In no uncertain terms.

Perhaps we are missing the obvious tactic of spending money to buy them over? It may be distasteful, but can we use a few billions to buy some of the Pakistani actors over just like the Americans do? Even a small fraction of our defence budget is not an insignificant amount of money.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 20 Feb 2010 12:36

From TFT

We’ve had the cricket team become a branch of the Tableeghi Jamat and the latest we hear is that Mohammed Yusuf tried to convert the New Zealand captain. What’s next?

hulaku · Post by **hulaku** » 20 Feb 2010 12:36

Suicide blasts rock Balakot, Mansehra police stations

MANSEHRA: Two police stations in Balakot and Mansehra were rocked with suicide bombings killing an SHO of Balakot police station and injuring several other personnel, Geo News reported Saturday.

The gunshots are still being heard from Mansehra police station. There are reports that the suicide bomber at Mansehra police station had various accomplices, who are hiding in various offices. Contradictory reports are pouring in regarding the ensuing gunshots.

The injured in the two blasts have been shifted to the hospitals.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=99087

kenop · Post by **kenop** » 20 Feb 2010 13:50

Pakistan kills 30 militants in airstrike

Pakistani jet fighters attacked a hideout of the Al-Qaeda backed Islamist militants in their South Waziristan bastion on Saturday, killing 30, the military said.

The strike was carried out in Shawal, a major mountainous sanctuary for the militants near the Afghan border.

Wonder if they are field testing new equipment. The operations ended with a resonding victory a couple of months ago.
Following looks like a verbatim quote from the release/handout.

Taliban militants, who want to topple the government and tightly control society with their radical interpretation of Islamic rule, have retaliated the military offensive in their strongholds with suicide and bomb attacks across the country that have killed hundreds of people.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 20 Feb 2010 14:31

I fully expect the targets on a platter - IPL, CWG and the SA ODIs to be terrorized in the coming days.

Too big and high-profile a target for the tactically brilliant to not drool in anticipation.

arun · Post by **arun** » 20 Feb 2010 15:23

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan has been blacklisted for alleged terrorism financing and money laundering:

FATF blacklists 8 countries, calls for Iran sanctions

(AFP) – 16 hours ago

WASHINGTON — A key global anti-corruption body has blacklisted eight countries for alleged money laundering and terrorism financing and called for sanctions against Iran, the US government said Friday.

The Financial Action Task Force has "identified eight countries that have strategic... deficiencies in alleged money laundering and terrorism financing," the Treasury Department said in a statement.

The FATF, an inter-governmental body aimed at countering illicit financial transactions that could be used to promote terrorism, has named Angola, Ecuador, Ethiopia, Iran, North Korea, Pakistan, Sao Tome and Principe, and Turkmenistan for posing "a risk to the international financial system." …………..

AFP via Google

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 20 Feb 2010 15:27

RamaP wrote: However, nowadays I am even more concerned as to whether there will ever be an ideal leadership who truly cares about India's interests over Uncle's priorities. The conspiracy theory that bothers me the most is about EVMs. If EVMs are truly compromised and if Uncle has a say in India's internal political affairs, then I guess we can safely say good bye to any chances of India giving a fitting reply to TSP in the near as well as distant future. Adding to that is the tremendous influence wielded by the Indian media, who apparently is driven by a not so subtle uncle sponsored agenda. If the above factors are even partially true, then it is truly a worrisome situation for our nation. In such a scenario, our nation would have no other choice but to keep a rather huge collection of dossiers with predefined text template ready to be sent to TSP in response to all the future terrorist bloodbaths.

Reply is in the EVM thread here: http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 76#p826876

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 20 Feb 2010 15:37

>>Perhaps we are missing the obvious tactic of spending money to buy them over? It may be distasteful, but can we use a few billions to buy some of the Pakistani actors over just like the Americans do? Even a small fraction of our defence budget is not an insignificant amount of money.

Quite sure we are not missing that tactic either. But it's effectiveness can be questioned, and moreover, there are others who can spend more. Note that apart from economic incentives there are various other cultural, residential, etc. incentives available (the soft power weapons). But IMHO none of these will be sufficient to bring the problem of the elite's use of Jihadis as policy instruments to an end or to a negligible level. Personal pain must be felt. There must be both incentives (there already are) and disincentives. So far as we can tell those who must be personally deterred are not. Not enough anyways.

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 20 Feb 2010 15:41

If Kayani, Gilani and Zardari are on the American take, and India is attacked AFTER the American instructs both sides to talk, then it seems like the moolah is not reaching the people it should.

It might work to announce something like a no-questions-asked $1,000,000 cash payment to anyone who turns himself in to the police instead of going ahead with a terror attack. At the very least, it will raise the cost for those funding the bombers.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 20 Feb 2010 16:25

JE Menon wrote:My point rather was that if Pakistan's jihad against India has to be ended, then the elites - specifically the Westernised elite which controls this whole operation, using a range of gullible morons, while smugly going back in escorted cars to their colony mansions and farm houses - need to feel the pain up close and personal, and the message should be conveyed as to the reason for that pain. In no uncertain terms.

JEM, Noble thoughts indeed. However, we have always reacted to events and then killed or maimed the foot soldiers, than take the source out or act proactively. We had a few top-rate jihadi leaders whom we allowed to escape as we helplessly watched them laugh all the way to their freedom. When Shri. Ravindra Mhatre was killed, we hanged Maqbool Bhat which was hailed as a great revenge. The guy should have been hanged anyway as his death sentence was awarded several years before Shri.Mhatre's assassination and yet we prided ourselves in the false claim of revenge. That's the stuff we are made of. We are not going to target assassinate anyone because it is morally repugnant. We unfortunately forget that statecraft is not practised that way.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 20 Feb 2010 17:04

Indian-made IEDs recovered in South Waziristan

Security officials recovered five sacks, each containing 20 kilograms of polypropylene with the text “Reliance Industries Ltd, Jamnagar, Gujrat, India” printed on them, DawnNews reported. Officials said they plan on raising the issue with Indian diplomats in the upcoming talks between the two nations

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 20 Feb 2010 17:11

Gerard wrote:Indian-made IEDs recovered in South Waziristan

Very convenient indeed, just before the talks. Now, this is what Pakistan has been saying that it will present the evidence at an appropriate time. The 'drafting error' will come very handy for Pakistan.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 20 Feb 2010 17:24

But doesn't RIL make the said chemical in huge quantities and exports it to lots of customers. some paki Fauji would have imported 20kgs from Dubai and that is suppossed to be evidence?? Further, there are no denators, connections or other chemicals required to create an IED, just the base chemical forms an IED??? Only the RAPE and PAkis will belive this is some sort of evidence.

Oops some of the WKK's will also belive this as evidence and sign of yeevil BAnia's and YYY conpiracy.

A search on Wikipedia has this is to say on Polypropolene

Polypropylene or polypropene (PP) is a thermoplastic polymer, made by the chemical industry and used in a wide variety of applications, including packaging, textiles (e.g. ropes, thermal underwear and carpets), stationery, plastic parts and reusable containers of various types, laboratory equipment, loudspeakers, automotive components, and polymer banknotes. An addition polymer made from the monomer propylene, it is rugged and unusually resistant to many chemical solvents, bases and acids.

Based on what I have read I am even sure it is an explosive material like Amonium Nitrate , C4 or RDX.

Offcourse it may be too much to ask a RAPE or WKK to understand that.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 20 Feb 2010 17:33

Not being able to do something now vis-a-vis POWI (Paki ocupied western India) does not imply that we cannot plan for the future to do something. Part of the problem lies in India itself - which also has to be taken into account. Therefore any discussion on "tackling/reponsing/initiate action" will have to integrate both India and POWI specific elements. However, as is apparent, any discussion on the India specific part will become OT for this thread. So most discussions lines will be useless.

The solutions to solve the POWI problem have been discussed n-times, and most of those come up with some form of dissolution of POWI power sturctures. The more time passes, I think people will come to realize - that certain conclusions in the "future strategic scenario" version 1 thread, are becoming unavoidable.

Briefly, the existing political and military superstructure and the state form has to be dissolved. Because of its recognition as an independent national identity in world bodies, it gains protection and is subject to manipulation by even bigger rascals and rogues. These rogues are motivated from a wide variety of factors - like race, religion, hydrocarbon, control of trade, paranoia and megalomania - to undermine/destroy/subjugate and control India.

However, if the process stops at simple dissolution and the remnant regions and societies are allowed to fracture into independent smaller principalities, that simply multiplies the number of POWI's poised against India. The driving religious, racial and economic motivations will not disappear - and in spite of the fond hopes of subnationalism, such subnationalisms if any will not be an obstacle to unified and coordinated atacks where the religion justified biological greed on the resources of India are concerned. The bigger rogues and rascals will simply have more chess pawns to play with, and in fact a smaller number of multiple Jihadist states is a heavensent - as prices for support will go down, and Jihadi Ghazwas against India can be organized at a much lower cost.

Therefore these two factors make it inevitable that we have to take back these occupied lands minus the structures that sustain their current state-form. These include all feudal land organizations, theological education apparatus, the army and the security services. A large part of these can be destroyed in conflict situations under cover of collateral damage and there are always ways and means of provoking certain groups so that their annihilation in and together with their stronghold becomes politically correct. Land reforms, compulsory modern educational conditioning, and some degree of active delegetimization of the concerned theology (even a fraction of the vehemence and aggressiveness shown against the majority faith in India will do) will be necessary. Which again can only be done under full Indian state control.

To prevent rogues and rascals coming to protect their dog, it is important to play the game of playing up to their interests. Certain powers will be most interested in a far less costly means of gaining access to CAR and AFG or for that matter obtaining straight route to IOR overland - than bearing the costs of protecting and preserving POWI. Reverting control of this region back to India ensures a far lower cost on the world economy to do "business" in this tract.

To achieve this India itself has to start thinking and preparing differently. Rather than wishing for a detonation on a certain leading lady's residence, we should appreicate her for her conformation to Indian ideals of wifely duty, motherly commitment to her "Indian" in-law family. She has done no more wrong than a long line of other illustrious Indians who have consciously or subconsciously brought on untold misery on their society to protect what they thought were their family's supreme interest. India is still in transition from a feudal mindset (national focus lies in bloodlines as centres of identity and authority) and the transition to more modern way of doing politics can be facilitated by leaving the option for royalty and their parasites to exit gracefully. Dont goad them into making more of those classical Indian elite alliances with foreign rogues to preserve their personal fiefs. Not expanding this as this will go OT.

I wish there were less of the voices of despair - nothing could be done before, nothing is being done, nothing can be done. When such opinions come from people others look up to for their long standing and contribution to the forum, it is even more a dampener. The first two are a reality - that should be used to represent the third as inevitable. The world changes when you change your way of thinking. You have to think of yourself as a winner who will ultimately win the war, even if you have lost the battle. Refuse to be defeated in your minds, and in the end you will win. It is as simple as that.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 20 Feb 2010 17:39

Gerard wrote:Indian-made IEDs recovered in South Waziristan
Security officials recovered five sacks, each containing 20 kilograms of polypropylene with the text “Reliance Industries Ltd, Jamnagar, Gujrat, India” printed on them, DawnNews reported. Officials said they plan on raising the issue with Indian diplomats in the upcoming talks between the two nations

After a little

about

five sacks, each containing 20 kilograms of polypropylene with the text Reliance Industries Ltd, Jamnagar

I am mucho worried about the security of RIL

The Pakis have declared war on us since 1947 and anything is fair in war for them, that includes attacking Indian Business interests.

Given the penchant of the Indian govt to "talk" and not punish after every brutality inflicted on Indians the Pakbarians have nothing to lose.

shaardula · Post by **shaardula** » 20 Feb 2010 18:14

Gerard wrote:Indian-made IEDs recovered in South Waziristan
Security officials recovered five sacks, each containing 20 kilograms of polypropylene with the text “Reliance Industries Ltd, Jamnagar, Gujrat, India” printed on them, DawnNews reported. Officials said they plan on raising the issue with Indian diplomats in the upcoming talks between the two nations

Hmm... Lets see how about North Waziristan, what did they discover there, amrud?

SureshP · Post by **SureshP** » 20 Feb 2010 18:18

Polypropylene is one the most common polymers around.It is a thermoplastic polymer, made by the chemical industry and used in a wide variety of applications, including packaging, textiles (e.g. ropes, thermal underwear and carpets), stationery, plastic parts and reusable containers of various types, laboratory equipment, loudspeakers, automotive components, and polymer banknotes. An addition polymer made from the monomer propylene, it is rugged and unusually resistant to many chemical solvents, bases and acids.

Reliance is Asia's largest producer of polyproylene with over a million TONS produced each year. It is sold to nearly every country in asia including probably Pakistan via Dubai.

Polypropylene would make a very ineffeceint material for IED's. You would barely get a Phut let alone a explosion.

rohiths · Post by **rohiths** » 20 Feb 2010 18:28

Be rest assured that if Pakis attack Reliance, govt will take swift action. Ambanis have huge influence on the govt.
I seriously hope that the accusations Pakis are making are true and the evil RAW agints are unleashing terror in Pure-land.

shaardula · Post by **shaardula** » 20 Feb 2010 18:33

sridhar:
i found this while looking for miranshah

lot of historical pics
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pimu/

see for example
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pimu/colle ... 650230841/

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 20 Feb 2010 19:10

sum wrote:New Delhi must hold its nerve in the Great Game

Reiterates the idea

The first step was to infuse a new lease of diplomacy (foreign secretary-level talks slated for February 25) into the bilateral equation, which should avail India some elbowroom to deal with Pakistan after the next Pak army-instigated terrorist act.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 20 Feb 2010 19:15

brihaspati wrote: I wish there were less of the voices of despair - nothing could be done before, nothing is being done, nothing can be done. When such opinions come from people others look up to for their long standing and contribution to the forum, it is even more a dampener. The first two are a reality - that should be used to represent the third as inevitable. The world changes when you change your way of thinking. You have to think of yourself as a winner who will ultimately win the war, even if you have lost the battle. Refuse to be defeated in your minds, and in the end you will win. It is as simple as that.

Further, if something is being done, it nevertheless will not show results immediately, nor will its ultimate success be known for a long time. In the meantime it would be very easy to succumb to despair.

"The world changes when you change your way of thinking" - well, I would put it that the world cannot change unless you change your way of thinking.

Unfortunately, it is not possible to use BRF directly to help change people's thinking because of e.g., the wish expressed that Sonia Gandhi's residence be a target of a terrorist attack.

rajpa · Post by **rajpa** » 20 Feb 2010 19:22

vera_k wrote:
rajpa wrote:talking itself is not a major problem. the question is of objectives.
Talking is a huge problem. Because it results in terror attacks on Indian soil by actors who wish to cause a break in the talks. The easiest way to prevent attacks like the one on Mumbai or Pune would be to hold fast until internal security is fixed.

this is something that i have never understood.. Who are these actors as per our unerstanding.. How does one relate to the other?

JwalaMukhi · Post by **JwalaMukhi** » 20 Feb 2010 19:22

vera_k wrote: Perhaps we are missing the obvious tactic of spending money to buy them over? It may be distasteful, but can we use a few billions to buy some of the Pakistani actors over just like the Americans do? Even a small fraction of our defence budget is not an insignificant amount of money.

This is being advocated as using dana technique. The behaviour of bakis deserve beyond danda neeti. The policy of not punishing punitively, atleast economically, for each of the incidents is equivalent to spending money to buy them over. Remember lockerbie incident, where punitive economic compensations were extracted.
Right now, paying any more money is equivalent of enhancing the Jizya payment. It is a path to further ignominy. Money cannot and will not buy peace. Applying pain to the bottoms, where it matters will straighten things out.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 20 Feb 2010 20:35

Over the years - I have begun to dislike my surgical patients so much that I have conspired with companies like Ethicon to produce hundreds of meters of Polypropylene suture material (Regd brand name "Prolene") and I leave many meters of the stuff inside patients. I use it particularly on Pakis and it is sure to explode unless you eat pig meat or follow a totally vegetarian diet. This is the first time I am admitting this - in the spirit of aman ki as..er as..-asses..assho..I mean asha. That word does not come easy to me. Sorry.

arun · Post by **arun** » 20 Feb 2010 20:42

SSridhar wrote:
Gerard wrote:Indian-made IEDs recovered in South Waziristan
Very convenient indeed, just before the talks. Now, this is what Pakistan has been saying that it will present the evidence at an appropriate time. The 'drafting error' will come very handy for Pakistan.

Sridhar,

Even the convenience factor is trumped by the ludicrousness of the claim that Polypropylene is an explosive. It is not.

Polypropylene is a commodity thermoplastic that is freely bought and sold and has no known dual use as an explosive such as ammonium nitrate which has the principle use as a fertiliser. Reliance makes the stuff by the truck load, and has an installed capacity of 1.4 Millon Tonnes p.a..

There is a caveat though

. Off course it is hazardous if 200 kilos of the stuff which is tightly packed in a very strong sack is dropped on an individuals head from the top of a 30 story building.

archan · Post by **archan** » 20 Feb 2010 20:43

RamaY wrote:Self deleted

Archanullah - Pls see the varna system in it, not CASTE system. Pls think about it when you have time.

Sir jee, it was supposed to be a joke.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 20 Feb 2010 20:48

shaardula wrote:sridhar:
i found this while looking for miranshah

Shaardula, thanks. Interesting stuff.

arun · Post by **arun** » 20 Feb 2010 20:51

The Christian Science Monitor on the paranoia prevalent in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

When things go boom in the night, Pakistanis blame Blackwater

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 20 Feb 2010 20:51

^+1

What I am saying is that ground is being prepared to attack Indian business interests like RIL which has a market cap much greater than the GDP of Pakbaristan.

arun · Post by **arun** » 20 Feb 2010 20:55

“Acting like an especially convivial nightclub manager” former military dictator of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan Gen. Pervez Musharraf was apparently making speeches some place in the western world (Chatham House?).

Canadian newspaper the Globe and Mail’s Doug Saunders had this to say:

After some perfunctory remarks about the Taliban, his talk is all about India's plots, India's intransigence, India's dangerous meddling in Afghan affairs, India's unwillingness to reason, India's problem with Islamic extremism within its own borders, and even, heaven help us, India's secret responsibility for fomenting Islamism within Pakistan. This is not just Mr. Musharraf's view. The army chief of staff, General Ashfaq Kayani, said in a briefing this week that Pakistan's No. 1 one threat remains India.

The Indian threat is a constant and popular trope in Pakistani politics. It is used by every elected leader to gain victory, and by every military dictator to justify seizing power. It's a national obsession but one that kills.

While there's no real danger of the Taliban's taking over Pakistan, electorally or militarily, there's a danger of Pakistanis becoming destitute and hospitable to terrible ideas – largely because we've turned the country into an anti-India military force.

Read it all:

Let's refocus: Kashmir, not Kabul

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 20 Feb 2010 20:58

There is no Reliance in "Gujrat".

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 20 Feb 2010 21:26

Good read and good focus:

Three_Huge_Ways_Pakistan_Still_Isnt_Cooperating

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 20 Feb 2010 21:52

archan wrote:
RamaY wrote:Self deleted

Archanullah - Pls see the varna system in it, not CASTE system. Pls think about it when you have time.
Sir jee, it was supposed to be a joke.

Thank you Archanullah. I didn't want to get promoted as Taliban 3.182943785

If I quoted Brzezinski for saying that very statement, it would have been perfectly alright. I find it very unfortunate that with one stroke of perspective (colonial-secularism) we gave up millennia of history and world-view.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 20 Feb 2010 22:06

Aafia trial in US against international law: Malik

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 20 Feb 2010 22:25

Daily Times

S Korea arrests Pakistani ‘Taliban’

SEOUL: The South Korean police said on Friday they had arrested a Pakistani man who claimed to be a member of the Taliban on charges of using a fake passport. The 31-year-old, who said he was a Muslim cleric, was detained on Thursday at his home in the southeastern city of Daegu, where he lives with his family, they said. “His claims have yet to be verified,” an investigator told AFP on condition of anonymity. The man had used the passport of another Pakistani to enter and/or leave South Korea 17 times since August 2003, the investigator said.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 20 Feb 2010 23:22

Aditya_V wrote: A search on Wikipedia has this is to say on Polypropolene

Based on what I have read I am even sure it is an explosive material like Amonium Nitrate , C4 or RDX.

Offcourse it may be too much to ask a RAPE or WKK to understand that.

Polypropolene is what is generically called "plastic". Used for making a wide variety of things, including the plastic gunny bags of rice that you see in wholesale shops. It is certainly not an explosive. The idiots probably found 2-3 plastic gunny bags. Since pakistan lacks the advanced technawlaji to make those gunny bags, it should have been a RAW conspiracy.