Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

atreya · Post by **atreya** » 27 Feb 2010 19:18

I didn't know that! Thanks for telling. Thats the reason there is such loud echo when they do the 3-Volley salute! How long have they been using this?

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I SERIOUSLY believed that! Bah! It happens

AshokS · Post by **AshokS** » 27 Feb 2010 20:57

Raja Bose wrote:
AshokS wrote:I saw an IL-76 ? large transport with a refueling probe land yesterday, somewhere in the east region.... I am guessing it was a air to air refueling tanker.
Which way was the probe pointing, forward or backward? Or perhaps you mean refuelling pod?

It was at the front, facing forward,like normal refueling probes. It wasn't the refueling pod. Which IL-76s does the IAF have with the refueling probe in the front? I know the Phalcon does, what about the normal tankers?

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 27 Feb 2010 21:13

I havent seen any IAF big birds with permanently extended refuelling probes which would allow them to take in fuel themselves...does anybody have any pics of that? paging Jagman....

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 27 Feb 2010 21:28

Did you happen to notice if there was a dome attached on top of that IL-76? This might have been the A-50I Phalcon.

I don't think any IAF IL-76s have a refuelling probe yet.

Bala Vignesh · Post by **Bala Vignesh** » 27 Feb 2010 23:58

Tried to look up if there were any examples of IL76's attached with refueling probes elsewhere but nothing came up in any of the search engines..
Is IAF trying something new here???

Dmurphy · Post by **Dmurphy** » 28 Feb 2010 22:25

Can someone ID these guys who are providing security at the Hockey world cup?

sunny y · Post by **sunny y** » 28 Feb 2010 23:27

Dmurphy wrote:Can someone ID these guys who are providing security at the Hockey world cup?

Are you sure that they are for Hockey World Cup because they seem to belong to some paramilitary force & based on what we have been reading in newspapers nobody else but Delhi Police is providing security for this world cup...I have seen a pic where Delhi Police QRT is taking part in a mock drill in Dhyanchand Stadium...Can't find it right now....will try to dig it out.....

Surya · Post by **Surya** » 28 Feb 2010 23:47

at least they are all wearing the same camo

pali · Post by **pali** » 28 Feb 2010 23:49

why the preference of black patkas over helmets? I find patkas completely useless, they should really provide bullet proof helmets to soldiers/commandos.

Craig Alpert · Post by **Craig Alpert** » 28 Feb 2010 23:57

pali wrote:why the preference of black patkas over helmets? I find patkas completely useless, they should really provide bullet proof helmets to soldiers/commandos.

Pali saab, have you YOURSELF, used a Patka In battle??? If not, then I suggest going through the CT/Coint Thread where adequate discussions were held about effective uses of Patkas vs Helmets!

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 28 Feb 2010 23:57

^^^ that is a bandana. I know a patka is a similar object but in this context it is better to avoid the confusion with this http://www.securemobileindia.com/patka.htm
funny thing being that the so called bullet-proof helmet is not effective against the bullet that actually matters, AK-47's. the lowly patka however is proof against ak fire.

btw, it's not practical to wear a helmet all the time in our weather. there's a difference between reel life and real life.

pmund · Post by **pmund** » 01 Mar 2010 00:38

Those guys are from the Indian Reserve Battalion, a sort of paramilitary unit under the state government.

Craig Alpert · Post by **Craig Alpert** » 01 Mar 2010 03:02

PHOTOS: VAYU SHAKTI 10

atreya · Post by **atreya** » 01 Mar 2010 10:21

Rahul M wrote:^^^ that is a bandana. I know a patka is a similar object but in this context it is better to avoid the confusion with this http://www.securemobileindia.com/patka.htm
funny thing being that the so called bullet-proof helmet is not effective against the bullet that actually matters, AK-47's. the lowly patka however is proof against ak fire.

btw, it's not practical to wear a helmet all the time in our weather. there's a difference between reel life and real life.

Yes. I think this bandana can be considered the equivalent of the hat or cap that Western Forces use. You cannot always move around wearing helmets in hot and humid weather. I remember, during the 2002 Aksharadham attack, the NSG commandos all wore bandanas and no helmets (atleast the pics showed them without helmets). I wonder why!

Gaur · Post by **Gaur** » 01 Mar 2010 12:28

atreya wrote: I remember, during the 2002 Aksharadham attack, the NSG commandos all wore bandanas and no helmets (atleast the pics showed them without helmets). I wonder why!

That may be because of what RahulM said regarding most helmets. Even the PASGT helmets used till recently by US Army were effective only against 9mm. So perhaps the helmets used by NSG at that time were also ineffective against AK-47.
BTW, does someone know the protection level provided by the new MICH helmets and Lightweight Helmets being used by US Army?

manjgu · Post by **manjgu** » 01 Mar 2010 15:23

the bandana also doubles as a hanky.... with sweat pouring over the eyes, the bandana is a good thing to have. keeps the hands and eyes dry. very useful...

davidzts · Post by **davidzts** » 01 Mar 2010 15:45

sunny y wrote:
Dmurphy wrote:Can someone ID these guys who are providing security at the Hockey world cup?

Are you sure that they are for Hockey World Cup because they seem to belong to some paramilitary force & based on what we have been reading in newspapers nobody else but Delhi Police is providing security for this world cup...I have seen a pic where Delhi Police QRT is taking part in a mock drill in Dhyanchand Stadium...Can't find it right now....will try to dig it out.....

I think these guys are SSB.

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 01 Mar 2010 21:11

It's not that hot yet in New Delhi. If heat is such a big issue that helmets can be discarded, then why use BPJs either ?

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 01 Mar 2010 22:58

because the BPJ can actually protect you from AR fire, helmets can't. it's advantages aren't worth the disadvantages.

Bala Vignesh · Post by **Bala Vignesh** » 01 Mar 2010 23:15

sunny y wrote:
Dmurphy wrote:Can someone ID these guys who are providing security at the Hockey world cup?
Are you sure that they are for Hockey World Cup because they seem to belong to some paramilitary force & based on what we have been reading in newspapers nobody else but Delhi Police is providing security for this world cup...I have seen a pic where Delhi Police QRT is taking part in a mock drill in Dhyanchand Stadium...Can't find it right now....will try to dig it out.....

Sunny sir,
its a multi layer system for the security for the hockey world cup comprising of delhi police, "commandos", and "paramilitary forces" ( the forces are as quoted by STOI)... And based on the force levels quoted i guess the Delhi Police forms the outer perimeter....

Gaur · Post by **Gaur** » 02 Mar 2010 00:28

Rahul M wrote:because the BPJ can actually protect you from AR fire, helmets can't. it's advantages aren't worth the disadvantages.

patkas can protect from AK fire as you stated yourself. So why not use them?

pali · Post by **pali** » 02 Mar 2010 01:00

patkas can stop AK fire!! that's news to me

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 02 Mar 2010 01:28

pali wrote:patkas can stop AK fire!! that's news to me

did you even read the link ?

gaur, does everyone need to have a helmet all the time at all ? it depends on the situation, role etc.

Natt · Post by **Natt** » 02 Mar 2010 01:29

pali wrote:patkas can stop AK fire!! that's news to me

Pali go a couple a posts back and Rahul and posted a link for you..obviously you have not read it.. I ll do it again. Please, this time, make an effort, click on it and read it.
http://www.securemobileindia.com/patka.htm

Craig Alpert · Post by **Craig Alpert** » 02 Mar 2010 04:25

now this is what I truly call, BEHIND ENEMY LINES

Jagan · Post by **Jagan** » 02 Mar 2010 05:23

Drill Purpose Rifles. (White band).. i guess dont want a stray bullet knocking some VIP's hat off..

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 02 Mar 2010 07:02

Jagan wrote:Drill Purpose Rifles. (White band).. i guess don't want a stray bullet knocking some VIP's hat off..

Jagan recall the comment (perhaps on BR) that one of the problems in a massive R day military parade is to ensure that every firearm carrying man in the marching columns goes through security to ensure that live munitions are not being somehow smuggled in.

Jagan · Post by **Jagan** » 02 Mar 2010 07:46

shiv wrote:massive R day military parade is to ensure that every firearm carrying man in the marching columns goes through security to ensure that live munitions are not being somehow smuggled in.

I can understand that. infact I am sure the rifles carried during RD are real ones and not DP. perhpas Ray can confirm that?

These DP rifles are of no use even if someone gets hold of live ammo!

Meanwhile somewhere on the western front

manjgu · Post by **manjgu** » 02 Mar 2010 08:03

bala .. security at hockey world cup is very funny... there are all kinds of uniforms just standing laizily all over.. if there are 5 spectators then there are at least 500 police chaps... even NSG is there with their vehicles... i think the total security folks can easily fill the stadium.. !!!

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 02 Mar 2010 08:46

Who is the fella with Nachiketa? Is Nachiketa flying transports now?

bodhi · Post by **bodhi** » 02 Mar 2010 08:52

Jagan wrote:
Meanwhile somewhere on the western front

Looks like the wing commander has put on a bit of weight since his Kargil days

. Good to see him though!

Added Later: Raja Sir, he's flying the Midas now

Indrajit · Post by **Indrajit** » 02 Mar 2010 09:01

Nice to see him,he was flying the An-32 few months back,saw a report in NDTV,good to see him flying the Midas.

SriniY · Post by **SriniY** » 02 Mar 2010 09:10

Who is Commander Nachiketa, could some one elaborate .

Jagan · Post by **Jagan** » 02 Mar 2010 09:13

SriniY wrote:Who is Commander Nachiketa, could some one elaborate .

http://tinyurl.com/yzmxbw9

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 02 Mar 2010 09:18

Raja Bose wrote:Who is the fella with Nachiketa? Is Nachiketa flying transports now?

yes he sustained a spinal injury during the bail-out and had to shift from fighters to transport. last I read of him in press, he was flying An-32's in the eastern sector. they said he would convert to the IL-76 and seems he has, to the '78. and it's Wg Cmdr Nachiketa now !

good to see all's well with him.

srini, his mig-27 flamed out during a firing run in kargil campaign and on bailing out he was captured by the TSPians. after a couple of weeks (IIRC) of a nation waiting anxiously given the fates of other POW's with TSP like Capt Kalia he was returned by the pakis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kambampati_Nachiketa

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 02 Mar 2010 09:50

bodhi wrote: he's flying the Midas now

Sorry, didn't notice the patch!

Natt · Post by **Natt** » 02 Mar 2010 10:16

Great to see him again. Just a doubt, wont a rank of Wg Cdr make him the CO of 78 sqd. Not sure. Anybody?

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 02 Mar 2010 10:29

shiv wrote:
massive R day military parade is to ensure that every firearm carrying man in the marching columns goes through security to ensure that live munitions are not being somehow smuggled in.

As a precautionary measure firing pin is removed from the rifles.

nachiket · Post by **nachiket** » 02 Mar 2010 11:22

SriniY wrote:Who is Commander Nachiketa, could some one elaborate .

I am sorry but I have to ask. Did you follow the kargil war at all??
Not knowing the names of Sdr Ldr Ajay Ahuja, (then) Flt. Lt. Nachiketa and Capt. Saurabh Kalia is unpardonable.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 02 Mar 2010 11:35

Raja Bose wrote:Who is the fella with Nachiketa? Is Nachiketa flying transports now?

Sandeep Unnithan Associate Editor India Today with Nachi. I envy Sandeep