The Red Menace

Karmasura · Post by **Karmasura** » 07 Mar 2010 02:33

India has given a diamond mining lease to Rio Tinto, as from a tweet from usinpac,

India to approve a diamond mining lease for global miner Rio Tinto in Madhya Pradesh. They still have diamond mines in India?

on 8:21 AM Mar 5th via web

This is the history of Rio Tinto:

In every continent where Rio Tinto operates the story is the same: land taken from indigenous people without compensation; workers prevented from freely organising in trade unions; destruction of the environment; and cosy relations with politicians, government officials and dictators.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 07 Mar 2010 04:09

Why does modern military/army style organization/performance/habits necessarily imply only possible ex-Indian Army personnel? Why cannot it be ex-armymen from neighbouring countries? Or even from across the waters? There are plenty of military bases around IOR.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 07 Mar 2010 04:18

brihaspati wrote:Why does modern military/army style organization/performance/habits necessarily imply only possible ex-Indian Army personnel? Why cannot it be ex-armymen from neighbouring countries? Or even from across the waters? There are plenty of military bases around IOR.

I don't know but I see this Pillai as some loose mouth and he is making too much of loose statements.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 07 Mar 2010 04:40

Muppalla -ji,
it seems a disturbing trend of publicly accusing or giving out that IA could produce men who would participate in movements that seek to overthrow the rashtra. Is it not possible to deal with within the defence framework itself? Public statements like this (even in connection with Abhinav Bharat) gives an impression of potential lack of "control" and grip from the gov side. Its a morale booster for "jihadis" of all colours - red or green or white or blue.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 07 Mar 2010 19:27

Indian writer Arundhati Roy ready for Maoist talks role

Indian writer Arundhati Roy says she is ready to be an "independent observer" if the Indian government agrees to peace talks with Maoist insurgents

Kishenji has denied that his party gets any help from retired army officials.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 07 Mar 2010 21:29

Gerard wrote:Indian writer Arundhati Roy ready for Maoist talks role
Indian writer Arundhati Roy says she is ready to be an "independent observer" if the Indian government agrees to peace talks with Maoist insurgents
Kishenji has denied that his party gets any help from retired army officials.

suzanna wants all the authority but none of the responsibility.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 08 Mar 2010 01:42

Maoists want Arundhati, Kabir Suman as mediators for talks with Centre

Kolkata, Mar 7 (ANI): The Maoists ultras on Sunday said that they would be interested in talks with the Centre with writer Arundhati Roy and singer-turned-politician Kabir Suman being mediators in it.

Speaking to a private news channel Maoists leader Koteshwar Rao alias Kishanji said his group would stop violence if the Centre invited intellectuals and rights activists like Arundhati Roy, Kabir Suman and former IAS officer B D Sharma to mediate in peace talks.

Kishanji demanded that the government should stop the ongoing operations against Maoists to pave way for talks.

He also demanded that Prime Minister Manmohan Singh should announce halting of operations.

...

Meanwhile, Arundhati Roy has said that though she is ready to be an independent observer if the government agrees to hold peace talks with the Maoists but cannot act as a representative for the Maoists.

"I am a writer, I don't have the skills of a mediator," Roy said. (ANI).

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 08 Mar 2010 02:40

Oh suddenly she is coy... she is a "writer"

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 08 Mar 2010 04:08

Bringing in Roy to mediate is like making Osama interlocutor for India-Pakistan talks.

Atish · Post by **Atish** » 08 Mar 2010 08:47

I like Arundhati Roy. She is a useful idiot. She is so off base that only but the dumbest would be put off by her. and the ones who would pay her attention are beyond hope anyway. all in all, a poor propaganda manager.

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 08 Mar 2010 22:08

Maoists' external connection:
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1100308/j ... 190377.jsp

krithivas · Post by **krithivas** » 08 Mar 2010 22:32

PM Manmohan Singh commented a few days/weeks ago that he was worried about intellectual cover being provided to Maoists.

The Maoists specifically calling out to Suzanne Arundathi Roy substantiate that pronouncement. Secondly, Ms. Roy may act coy (or be blushing) that her armed comrades are calling for her to "come out of the closet". Like a string of pearls, the institution that awared her the Booker Prize also moves into fore ground.

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 09 Mar 2010 01:52

The Maoists decided to take help from their foreign counterparts, including those in the Philippines and the Netherlands. It was mentioned in the party congress document that ultra-Left outfits abroad had agreed to help the Maoists in India,” said an Intelligence Branch officer.

Netherlands again. Remember LTTE

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 09 Mar 2010 07:30

Never thought it would happen but I actually agree with some of Arundhati Roys points in the video below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARs3lcjE ... re=related

"That's how mining corporations have worked historically, by creating an enemy"

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 09 Mar 2010 07:36

Problem is that the view depends on which side of rashtryia power you are standing. The same "imperialist/capitalist/running dogs of bourgeoisie/running dog of imeprialist capitalism/comprador bourgeoisie" become "progressive" after the "great proletarian revolution" takes place under the guidance of the "vanguard party" under the leadership of the politbureau under the leadership of the "great leader". Everywhere the communists gain paower, after some time there is no longer any problem with similar mining or exploitative venture capitalism. If it was so, the Vietnamese peasants or environemntalists would not have been protesting against the "sole friend of the proletariat" the PRC activities in related domain.

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 09 Mar 2010 07:36

The Tribals could not get worse spokespersons than Arundhati Roy and Mahesh Bhatt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rygJzzut ... re=related

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 09 Mar 2010 07:37

brihaspati wrote:Problem is that the view depends on which side of rashtryia power you are standing. The same "imperialist/capitalist/running dogs of bourgeoisie/running dog of imeprialist capitalism/comprador bourgeoisie" become "progressive" after the "great proletarian revolution" takes place under the guidance of the "vanguard party" under the leadership of the politbureau under the leadership of the "great leader". Everywhere the communists gain paower, after some time there is no longer any problem with similar mining or exploitative venture capitalism. If it was so, the Vietnamese peasants or environemntalists would not have been protesting against the "sole friend of the proletariat" the PRC activities in related domain.

Oh! I am in complete agreement. Just the thought of communism send shudders down ones back.
The best solution is to consider these grievances in a demoncratic setup

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 09 Mar 2010 07:51

Re; MB and ARoy :

But isnt that how the game is always played. The tribals themselves never have the voice! They are always spoken for! Those who are selected fro induction into elite - are themselves "de-tribalized" - plenty to go around in Jharkhand. A leading light there - the Yessir Arafat of Jharkhandian Intifada - had a close friendship with a leading lady of literature, who herself derives from solid "forward caste" stock. The only non-alcoholic of the clan was a friend of my dads and through him I came to know quite a bit about the lifestyle. If this was the association that the Arafat of Jharkhand maintained - it was afar far cry from the tribals I personally knew. At the end of it all - do we have a tribal voice? No. Not Mahesh Bhatt (Bhatta - definitely indicating a "brahmin" connection at some time point in ancestry) - AR of course is a similar ball-game - but it is exactly the elite fringe that have posed as "tribal voice". From Kabir Suman - who has done a Kalapaharisque transition from Suman Chatterjee (holder of the sandal/paduka in yagna) to Kabir Suman (and for a very noble personal reason connected to the brief soujourn in BD connected to singing and singer connected to....) - are exactly those centrifugal elements of the elite that have always used the faceless "tribal" to get their next ego trip - something that makes their life worth living for and gives it a purpose. Where is the tribal really in the Maoist PB or CC? Look at the upper echelons of all Communist Parties - the higher you go greater is the proportion of so-called "forward caste Hindus". Why don't these p-secularist parties who are so keen on "reservations" for the "backward" in the public - do not reserve a portion of their higher committe memberships or key-posts for "OBC/SC/ST/Minorities/Tribals"? Nah...how dare you ask such things!!!

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 09 Mar 2010 08:28

jarita, what's the point of airing a roy's loony theories on BR?

after 26/11 she also said that India deserves this. may I ask you is that true ? she also peddled lot of false stories after gujrat (went silent on those stories when asked later). were those true ? does she by *any* stretch of imagination seem like a credible source ?
a nut is a nut is a nut, don't put credence to all a nut says just because like a stopped watch it makes sense once every 20 years. do edit that post out.

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 09 Mar 2010 08:32

^^^ But she is stating some facts that have not been contested. Even a nut may say something true once in a while. I agree that 98% of what she says is doped up garbage and she is on a self aggrandizement trip, however she is quoting goverment reports in that video. Please watch and judge for herself

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 09 Mar 2010 08:35

One doesn't have to be from the opressed/hard-done-by/exploited people to represent them. I'm sure there are many such examples in history. All you need from the representative is honesty to the cause. Of course A Roy and MB are anything but. It does pain me that the voice of the tribals is hardly heard. It might be due to umpteen reasons but in a democratic setup just how much voice do they have right now? How would they make themselves heard when they aren't exactly a solid votebank that they can exert influence on their mla or mp? When faced with crooked elected representatives and mining "mafia" just how would they get others to hear them out without resorting to violence. I wish they could somehow.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 09 Mar 2010 08:47

Jarita wrote:^^^ But she is stating some facts that have not been contested. Even a nut may say something true once in a while. I agree that 98% of what she says is doped up garbage and she is on a self aggrandizement trip, however she is quoting goverment reports in that video. Please watch and judge for herself

like what exactly ?

if indeed what she says is true you shouldn't have too much of a problem finding more credible sources for those information. A roy as an original source is summarily unacceptable on BR.
p.s. if you don't delete that post, I'll delete it myself.

ts, it's not quite true that tribals don't constitute a votebank, India's tribals are concentrated in pockets around the country and in those regions they do decide the outcome of elections. then again, does being votebanks really benefit those communities ? does being considered a votebank benefit the muslim community for instance ? I don't think so.

at the end of the day, there's no alternative to education to churn out leaders and spokespersons from the community. here is where the ST reservation should have played a part, unfortunately, in its current form it only benefits a handful of people in the creamy layer and doesn't go down deep enough. that, IMHO is the problem with votebank politics.

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 09 Mar 2010 08:57

^^^ Non Arundhati Roy sources

Chidambaram faces flak on Vedanta links

http://www.business-standard.com/india/ ... ks/257339/

Vedanta scandal back to haunt FM

http://www.hvk.org/articles/1106/165.html

From an anti Naxal blog

http://naxalwatch.blogspot.com/2007/09/ ... judum.html

A very prominent civil war is going on in Dantewada district of Chhattisgarh in the name of Naxalism and Salwa Judum. All of us have a right to know who the real beneficiaries are in this civil war. The stories of Essar and Tata steel plants, Essar funds for Salwa Judum camps, their mining leases, the MoUs being kept under wraps, the forced, undemocratic and unconstitutional acquisition of land for these plants, the arrests, the murders, the rapes, and the brazenness of the whole affair might give us some clues.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 09 Mar 2010 09:01

thank you, I'll now delete that post.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 09 Mar 2010 10:43

Jarita_> I agree Tribals should be given a better deal, but how do Maoists who take money from the mining mafia blow up schools villages in Tribal areas help. Rather I would ensure factories come adjacent o the mines, so that Tribals are well employed and thier is good development.

Why is being oppossed by Maoists where mining is currently happening, but the ore gets exported at a less than market price and Black money is deposited in the western banking system, who bank roll Ngo's and Famour authors , in the end Tribals are the big loser in this game no?

Further, how do the Maoists benefit Tribals by killing poor truck drivers police constables, PSU employees etc.

In case you are wondering about Maoist Mining Mafia nexus, see the Madhu Koda episode, also note Maoists also concentrate on areas where there is some mining happening.

And why western press and NGO's suddenly feel such love for Indian Tribals??? why have no areas where Maoism has been active in the last 30 years like Nallamalla forests become developed areas? What about Rapes , murders from Maoists, are they above the law, dont they deserve to pay for thier crimes?

My basic question here, I dont see how any of the Maoists represent Tribals or Tribal interests in India, nor do thier supporters who seem to be well to do who oppress rather than be from those who are oppressed.?

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 09 Mar 2010 11:17

^^^ Am not justifying Maoists. Based on Africa, I believe western orgs are funding them for resource reasons only. They play the game both ways.

That said, GOI truly does not have right to take away sacred land without consulting the tribals. This was done in Peru and Ecuador and there was a huge backlash. Today lands belong to the locals.

However, you should see how oil companies come and try to negotiate with the tribals. Invariably they approach the padre first (I have seen this myself). Many Roman Catholic padres are more interwven with local traditions these days (contrary to just 10-20 years ago) and likely to protect land from oil & mineral MNCs. The new evangelists grewing at fast pace often act as intermediaries between the tribes and MNCs. That is where the takeover is most rapid.

Horrible stuff

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 09 Mar 2010 18:03

we do not want Evangelists and proselytizers of any form, be they of Christian Fundamentalists or Islamic or Maoist origin in these remote areas. they will of cours etake up and use local sentiments to carve out a territiry of influence of their own. These will serve as bases for their external sponsors and the country or business of origin's own geo-political agenda.

GOI lacks the will or deliberately "lacks the will" because of wider political arrangements and tacit implications, to clear these spaces of non-indigenous agencies. Any body functioning there with foriegn links - support/funding/access/connections/sponsorships should be cleared off. The tribals need managed access and protection of righst to exploit the forests and natural productive resources. They should be allowed this freedom without inteference from external business interests and their local bully cronies in admin/police/mafia. Maybe a new centralized internal security force not dependent on local political interests, can be placed. Such a force can be placed under the younger freshly minted "baboos" from the admin cadre who can be given more power and independence.

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 09 Mar 2010 22:06

^^^^ You can see that in the way Actionaid and aglican church are now supported the dondh tribals against vedanta. Needless to say they were key investors in vedanta and god knows what. (Anglican Church key investor in slave plantations in the Caribbean)

These guys will bat on both sides. Once the battle against Vedanta is won they will act as mediator between Dondhs and mining mafia to extract minerals.

Till 10-20 years ago in South America (Amazon) belt the RC church was biggest middleman. They were taking bulk of resources for the church and much of earnings were shipped off to Rome. The new evangs are no better but competition has made RC church modify stand a little bit (instead of 90% they might take 85% now

). BTW majority of conversions of the Amazon tribes actually happened in 20th century. They resisted for a long time.

The situation in South America is a roadmap for what is probably happening in India. I am sure Africa is a better case study given what I have read - but have not seen first hand.

I see the same situation in Indian with outsiders acting as middlemen. I believe that Arundhati Roy represents these outsiders who are pretending to bat on the side of the tribals.

Nihat · Post by **Nihat** » 12 Mar 2010 00:58

Thu, Mar 11 06:18 PM
Ranchi/Kolkata, March 11 (IANS) Backed by air cover, security forces Thursday pursued Maoists in eight districts of West Bengal and Jharkhand in a major crackdown, seizing a huge quantity of arms and destroying concealed rebel camps in thick forests.

Director General of Police Neyaz Ahmad told IANS: 'Yes, operations have been launched in many places in Jharkhand. West Bengal has also joined the inter-state operation against Maoists.'

Officials said the drive against the outlawed Communist Party of India-Maoist (CPI-Maoist) was on in West Singhbhum, East Singhbhum, Bokaro, Hazaribagh and Seraikela districts in Jharkhand as well as Purulia, West Midnapore and Bankura districts in nearby West Bengal.

http://in.news.yahoo.com/43/20100311/81 ... khand.html

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 12 Mar 2010 06:11

Green Hunt: Forces employ Naxal tactics, win over locals

Now what kinda headline is that? 'forces employ naxal tactics'?? The overgroundus silent at naxal atrocities may go into overdrive spinning this as 'security excesses' only...

Anyway, story itself is a better read. Hope its part of a comprehensive campaign (including PR) that the GOI has undertaken.

KOLKATA/EAST SINGHBHUM/BHUBANESWAR: Operation Green Hunt has been launched with bullets in Jharkhand and a healing touch in Bengal.

The CRPF personnel have started massing under the cover of medical camps on the Bengal side — the same tactics as the Maoists used to get a toehold in the state. Preparations are on to link up with the forces driving Maoists out of strongholds in East and West Singhbhum in Jharkhand.

The operation that started on Sunday seems to be giving desired result — winning the trust of the locals — claimed senior police officers.

Villagers, in West Midnapore and Purulia (Bengal) and Ghatsila (Jharkhand) are coming forward with information on Maoists.

State police and CRPF units have started getting local intelligence inputs even in areas such as Jorma, Jamaimari, Sakhabhanga on the Bengal side and over a dozen villages like Basodera, Burudih, Dayanmara and Digha in Jharkhand. These are the areas where the Maoists had the final word until Operation Green Hunt started.

It is clear by now that this operation is taking place under direct orders of the Centre and the supervision of CRPF. Home secretary Ardhendu Sen said, "This is no recce. It was an operation. We are analysing the results."

wow.

Kindly stay and don;t leave the area until the entire distt and its neighborhood are cleaned of naxal weapons.

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 12 Mar 2010 09:05

The biggest problem was that over the last three decades the CPM party ran a parallel administration and siphoned off all developmental resources. Police intel network was replaced by CPM party intel network. Police became a mute shadow of the party.

One good thing of this Maoist activities is that (still the cloud has silver lining) they have
routed the CPM party apparatus in the western districts of WB, and in the last two years they have driven out pretty much most of the CPM local/zonal level leaders. Top leaders have taken shelter in cities. Lower/village level CPM leaders have been killed mercylessly
by the Maoists. With this vacuum police is finding soil under its feet. With central money
and plenty of support from CRPF/EFR they are building their intel network once again.
With camps for medical relief, blanket and ration distribution, etc. flow of intel has
started again from the villagers. Also, with Mamata's Trinamool waiting for the next electoral opportunity, many police officers are suddenly switching loyalty.

rkirankr · Post by **rkirankr** » 12 Mar 2010 13:58

http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/mar/ ... ounter.htm

Nihat · Post by **Nihat** » 13 Mar 2010 11:36

Appa Rao, who was the prime accused in the killing of Deputy Inspector General of Police KS Vyas in Hyderabad in 1993, was arrested once and was in Chanchalguda central jail in Hyderabad for seven years.

But he jumped the bail in 2000 and went underground. KS Vyas, who was on the hit list of Maoists for his campaign against them, was killed when he was jogging in Lal Bahadur Stadium in heart of Hyderabad.

And this why these so called top leaders should be shot and killed instead of arrest. I fear that a few years down the line the likes of Kobad Ghandy may well go on bail and go underground like this guy.

Nihat · Post by **Nihat** » 13 Mar 2010 11:38

Only days after Maoist military strategist Koteshwar Rao threatened to strike Kolkata. TIMES NOW has accessed a detailed plan chalked by the terrorists. In this document- the maoists reveal their plan to carry their fight into urban area. Specifically industrial belts across northern India. In their plan to shake up urban India- the 129-page Maoist document - titled Strategy and Tactics of the Indian War, seized recently by security forces, states, "Our presence today in key industries is extremely low. It is a pressing need that we enter key industries such as transport, communications, railways, ports, power, oil and gas and defence equipment. This is crucial for the success of our revolution."

http://www.timesnow.tv/INDIA/Maoists-te ... 340471.cms

P.S. - If anyone can find the link to surrender of 16 Maoists in Orissa (said to be biggest Naxal surrender), please do post it here.

skaranam · Post by **skaranam** » 13 Mar 2010 16:45

Nihat wrote:
Only days after Maoist military strategist Koteshwar Rao threatened to strike Kolkata. TIMES NOW has accessed a detailed plan chalked by the terrorists. In this document- the maoists reveal their plan to carry their fight into urban area. Specifically industrial belts across northern India. In their plan to shake up urban India- the 129-page Maoist document - titled Strategy and Tactics of the Indian War, seized recently by security forces, states, "Our presence today in key industries is extremely low. It is a pressing need that we enter key industries such as transport, communications, railways, ports, power, oil and gas and defence equipment. This is crucial for the success of our revolution."
http://www.timesnow.tv/INDIA/Maoists-te ... 340471.cms

P.S. - If anyone can find the link to surrender of 16 Maoists in Orissa (said to be biggest Naxal surrender), please do post it here.

16 Maoists surrender in Orissa

According to police, of the 16 Maoists, eight were hardcore rebels from Adaba area of Gajapati.

The gajapti area is the AOB (andhra Orrisa border), where there is a renewed focus of AP Police. In orrisa, it is the biggest naxal surrender. However in AP, in 2003 some 32 naxals surrendered
32 naxals surrender before DGP

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 14 Mar 2010 01:52

Well done AP Police! Keep it up.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 14 Mar 2010 03:33

So the Maoists can be a good weapon to clear off the "Parliamentary Left" in preparation for takeover by more "convenient" electoral forces!

The strategy can be deemed excellent. See to it, that the Maoists are not touched until they gain sufficient strength to erase the electoral discomforts - like the "Parliamentary" Left when they no longer toe the "line" or are no longer useful, or say the odd saffron clad becoming a thorn in the side of electorally important faiths by reverting tribals back to their traditional beliefs. Once the Maoists are able to liquidate such discomforts, eliminate the Maoists, and let allies fill up the vacuum.

MB should be careful, for she would be the next target in the long run. How come Maoists never ever really move against populations or groups that are crucial for the Congress to succeed electorally? Or move against only when such groups show signs of moving away or rebelling!

The way it will go, is MB now helped to liquidate the CPI(M). Then MB's party neutralized and absorbed into the Congress over the longer run. At worst keep MB as a local satrap, safely walled inside the "remote" province far away from the Sultanate headquarters at Dehli. Those "bengalis" are after all always "untrustworthy" for any pure-blooded UP based rulership. Only those Bengalis without any political base but wily old brains on their necks are useful as advisors or servants. But any with some mass appeal like MB, should be carefully penned in - these are the subversives who can upset dynastic applecarts.

Cautionary tales to be learned by heart by all dynastic aspirants from the only place and background who deserve to rule India as their birthright onlee - those d***** Bengalees pushed up the Gangetic belt under the Palas, declared independence from the Delhi Sultanate, resisted the Mughals ruling from Delhi [what an audacity and what a crime against the wonderful syncretic Mughals! ] became virtually independent under the Nawabs, and worst possible crime - they rose up in armed struggle to overthrow the great friends of India - the British, again ruling from Delhi.

So if MB is not careful, the Maoists will emerge again.

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 15 Mar 2010 22:17

More wholesale loot in the mineral rich zones.. As someone said, is this a government or pirates

Mine licences may be given to 'first in line'

Like the Telecom Ministry, the Ministry of Mines plans to hand out licences for minerals other than coal to those “first in the queue” with a right to sell them off at a premium.

Mines Minister B K Handique is proposing to replace the Mines & Minerals (Development & Regulation) Act 1957 with a new law to give mineral prospecting licences only to the “first applicant”, and “all other applications shall be deemed to have been refused to the extent of the area granted to the first applicant”.

As per Sections 22 and 23, read with Section 13(1) of the draft, request by end-users Tata Steel, Balco, ACC or state-run National Mineral Development Corp for prospecting licence for an area “where reconnaissance has been conducted and sufficient evidence of enhance mineralisation has been established” would be rejected if they apply a day after the first applicant.

Such rejection would be irrespective of better commitment on prospecting or mining operations, rehabilitation schemes, downstream investments or revenue sharing.

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 15 Mar 2010 22:50

brihaspati wrote:So the Maoists can be a good weapon to clear off the "Parliamentary Left" in preparation for takeover by more "convenient" electoral forces! The strategy can be deemed excellent. See to it, that the Maoists are not touched until they gain sufficient strength to erase the electoral discomforts - like the "Parliamentary" Left when they no longer toe the "line" or are no longer useful, or say the odd saffron clad becoming a thorn in the side of electorally important faiths by reverting tribals back to their traditional beliefs. Once the Maoists are able to liquidate such discomforts, eliminate the Maoists, and let allies fill up the vacuum.

MB should be careful, for she would be the next target in the long run. How come Maoists never ever really move against populations or groups that are crucial for the Congress to succeed electorally? Or move against only when such groups show signs of moving away or rebelling!

The way it will go, is MB now helped to liquidate the CPI(M). Then MB's party neutralized and absorbed into the Congress over the longer run. At worst keep MB as a local satrap, safely walled inside the "remote" province far away from the Sultanate headquarters at Dehli. Those "bengalis" are after all always "untrustworthy" for any pure-blooded UP based rulership. Only those Bengalis without any political base but wily old brains on their necks are useful as advisors or servants. But any with some mass appeal like MB, should be carefully penned in - these are the subversives who can upset dynastic applecarts.

Cautionary tales to be learned by heart by all dynastic aspirants from the only place and background who deserve to rule India as their birthright onlee - those d***** Bengalees pushed up the Gangetic belt under the Palas, declared independence from the Delhi Sultanate, resisted the Mughals ruling from Delhi [what an audacity and what a crime against the wonderful syncretic Mughals! ] became virtually independent under the Nawabs, and worst possible crime - they rose up in armed struggle to overthrow the great friends of India - the British, again ruling from Delhi.

So if MB is not careful, the Maoists will emerge again.

MB is keeping quiet about Maoists only because the latter is liquidating the parliamentary left in a convenient way. But make no mistake that MB can't be kept isolated on a remote corner state called WB. few important things to remember -

1. Her first and foremost priority is to wrest WB from the left.

2. Once that happens, she'll expand her base in the north-east where she has a great appeal. Also the bengali language is the second language in the entire NE.

3. If MB comes to wrest the Cm's chair in WB, maoists will lose some of their charms among the tribals/backward classes.

4. No one, even her most vocal critics can accuse MB as "corrupt" which is the hallmark of indian politicians. And, this is the biggest asset which MB knows very clearly, and nurtures with great care. Even MB disowned her brothers who dared to make some quick bucks encashing the popular "didi's name".

5. MB, once settles in WB, and then to the NE region, will then eye the bengali dominated eastern halfs of Jharkhand and Bihar, and the northern part of orissa where Bengal language is dominant, and traditionally were parts of greater bengal. Already people from these regions are reaching out to Didi to help her set-up bases.

6. After the east, MB's next sight is - yup, "Dilli" where one million bengali speaking people determine the outcomes in three seats. Here also, Trinamool Congress is setting up her base.

7. Except Pranab Mukherjee and Sonia G, MB doesn't give a damn to any other Congis. It'll be hard to bottle her up if and when she captures WB.

8. Again, her biggest asset is that she is a workoholic, absolutely keeps herself away from corruption, and her down to earth lifestyle, - which are quite anathema to average indian politicians.

debadutta · Post by **debadutta** » 17 Mar 2010 20:22

Do not from where you got the idea is that in Northen Orissa Bengali is the dominant language. Last i checked Northern Orissa is still part of Orissa

and logically Oriya is the main language there. As for MB spreading her base , good luck to her and TMC . But so far it seems that MB and TMC have a totaly WB specific agenda.