Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP), Feb. 26, 2010

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 12 Mar 2010 21:09

Kamboja wrote: In the scenario you draw out, how will India handle the inevitable influx of hundreds of thousands, potentially millions, of Pakistani civilians seeking to escape the sinking ship? Not to mention the inevitable spillover of organized crime, smuggling (drugs could become big business as disposable incomes rise in India), and the assorted nastiness that comes with a failing state?

Not so fast. May I put a caveat on this?

If turmoil in TSP is going to do all this to India (as it definitely will) should we cause that turmoil ourselves and choose to suffer?

Or should we wait for that turmoil to occur on its own, knowing that it might come and plan whether we are going to gun down anyone crossing the border with robotic machine guns, or house them in depakistanization ashrams?

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 12 Mar 2010 21:11

Fidel Guevara wrote:
Kati wrote:It's FRIDAY. Twin IED Mubaraak.
Yeah, boys, it's ILwIIR* time!!

Now Paki have officialy admitted their "Pakhana"landic feature and cant be Depkhanazised, for this honest admission we should let some of the Paki in when the come on all four with special jars in their hand. Munna is right, if they come , we love them so much that we will make four of each. They have made themselves a symbol of what have been wrong of past few hundred years and we must welcome every oppertunity to make amend to it.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 12 Mar 2010 21:12

Kamboja wrote: Encouraging radical Islam in Pakistan may serve our short term interests, but I am convinced that it will come back to haunt us in the long term. There must be some alternative, although I confess myself hard-pressed to find one...

India and you (and I) have no choice in this. The rabid ideology is spreading itself.

The Paki army found it useful to spread the ideology to hate India, but now the ideology has found a way of hating the Pakistan army.

I am beginning to like this ideology a lot.

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 12 Mar 2010 21:19

shiv wrote:
Kamboja wrote: Encouraging radical Islam in Pakistan may serve our short term interests, but I am convinced that it will come back to haunt us in the long term. There must be some alternative, although I confess myself hard-pressed to find one...
India and you (and I) have no choice in this. The rabid ideology is spreading itself.

The Paki army found it useful to spread the ideology to hate India, but now the ideology has found a way of hating the Pakistan army.

I am beginning to like this ideology a lot.

the more rabid they became, easier it is for Indians to make their choices.. easy for Muslims in India and lot more easier for Hindus in India to make their choices, when the chips are down... we have to own up our neglect in past 300 years and pay the proce of that karma.. thankfully we have been let off the hook very cheaply owing to some chankian inaction of past leaders..

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 12 Mar 2010 21:26

Disturbing news for Zaid zaman Hamid fanboys:
Zaid hamid and one Hammad has been named in the murder of Mufti Jalalpuri. Mufti Jalalpuri had issued a fatwa against Zaid Hamid.

Fatwa against Zaid Hamid takes the life of Mufti Jalalpuri
The fatwa is here: Will need someone who can translate urdu to english.
http://www.awamimarkaz.com/wp-content/u ... -Hamid.png

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 12 Mar 2010 21:28

Prem wrote: Yeah, boys, it's ILwIIR* time!!
Now Paki have officialy admitted their "Pakhana"landic feature and cant be Depkhanazised,

Prem I don't know your line of work but do you know how sewage is treated?

I means here you have 50 million liters of liquid shit from an entire city and how do you clean it up?

Actually it's not that difficult. Shit and Pakhanastan (

I love the name - how appropriate!) are similar - they contain bugs of a virulent ideology. Anyhow the shit is collected in a tank and stirred so that all the bugs are fed with the oxygen they need. They then attack any nutrition they can get in shit and eventually die when it is all used up.

Pakistan is getting to this stage. they are now killing each other. But they require stirring. You don't stir shit by diving into it. You use indirect means - like suggesting birth control or something that is against the ideology. And let the EDIT slug it out!

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 12 Mar 2010 21:32

SSridhar wrote: It should be a matter of concern for India that Pakistan is being able to convince other nations that it is indeed taking action against terrorists. The jihadi rhetoric is reaching higher pitches recently, the JuD terrorists are conducting open meetings in central Lahore and gun-displaying and heavily armed terrorists are seen protecting LeT/JuD leaders and controlling crowds and yet the US and now Russia feel that Pakistan is taking action against terrorists ? India must realize that so long as it is squeamish about hitting Pakistan back hard for every act of its terror, it will not get anything beyond vacuous words of sympathy from others. Why should they do anything else when the affected dhimmi is itself willing to absorb blow after blow like a piece of sponge ?

Indeed its troubling. And as you point out, it is due to India's pussilanimity and acting as though TSP terror is like a mosquito bite and it is mature bla bla. Phony sense of confidence when the reality is that under the hood it is s@it scared where LeT will attack next and TSPA will raise the tempo. Putin is right in a general sense; TSP is taking on some "terrorists". But given India abosbing TSP punches and then crying for a day or two, for a dispassionate outside observer, much less for anyone who gives a rat's ass for SDRE lives, it does appear that there is an over all "terror" problem in "South Asia", there are "disputes" like Kashmir and "water" and AfPak etc. The west is doing God's work in taking on the Taliban (read grabbing central asian oil) amd TSP is helping in this effort etc etc. Thus, India's whining in the absence of any punch to back up that whine rests on thin ice. Then you add our elite "argumentative Indian" traitors ever so ready to impress the world with their secularism and moral self-righteousness bringing in "Hindu exdtremism", is it any wonder that even India's erstwhile close friends like Russia pay scant attention to the threat India faces from TSP?

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 12 Mar 2010 21:36

shiv wrote:
Kamboja wrote: In the scenario you draw out, how will India handle the inevitable influx of hundreds of thousands, potentially millions, of Pakistani civilians seeking to escape the sinking ship? Not to mention the inevitable spillover of organized crime, smuggling (drugs could become big business as disposable incomes rise in India), and the assorted nastiness that comes with a failing state?
Not so fast. May I put a caveat on this?

If turmoil in TSP is going to do all this to India (as it definitely will) should we cause that turmoil ourselves and choose to suffer?

Or should we wait for that turmoil to occur on its own, knowing that it might come and plan whether we are going to gun down anyone crossing the border with robotic machine guns, or house them in depakistanization ashrams?

I'm with Kamboja. Trying to meddle in fanaticism will only bite us. It has bitten everyone so far (including internally, e.g, Bhindranwale), and externally the examples are galore. The correct thing to do is to work on erecting the counter-ideology.

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 12 Mar 2010 21:36

shiv wrote:
Prem wrote: Yeah, boys, it's ILwIIR* time!!
Now Paki have officialy admitted their "Pakhana"landic feature and cant be Depkhanazised,
Prem I don't know your line of work but do you know how sewage is treated?

I means here you have 50 million liters of liquid shit from an entire city and how do you clean it up?

Actually it's not that difficult. Shit and Pakhanastan ( I love the name - how appropriate!) are similar - they contain bugs of a virulent ideology. Anyhow the shit is collected in a tank and stirred so that all the bugs are fed with the oxygen they need. They then attack any nutrition they can get in shit and eventually die when it is all used up.

Pakistan is getting to this stage. they are now killing each other. But they require stirring. You don't stir shit by diving into it. You use indirect means - like suggesting birth control or something that is against the ideology. And let the EDIT slug it out!

Alternate governments of BJP and INC in India can do that trick for Pakis.. under BJP govt, advanis and his successors stir the shit up (primarily just by being there, alternatively by a cheesy statement)

.. then inaction of INC govt provides oxygen.. the economic, military and foreign policy remains unchanged anyways, we have seen that..

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 12 Mar 2010 21:37

As IPL-3 begins in India, man, there have been a few vintage Adam Gilchrist type straight sixers in LaWhore. Good job by the "freedom fighters". I hope India gives them moral and diplomatic support. But on a serious note, Indian security apparatus better be on hair-trigger alert. TSP will be itching to do an equal equal especially with IPL-3 underway and TSP's H&D in the toilet.

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 12 Mar 2010 21:39

CRamS wrote:As IPL-3 begins in India, man, there have been a few vintage Adam Gilchrist type straight sixers in LaWhore. Good job by the "freedom fighters". I hope India gives them moral and diplomatic support. But on a serious note, Indian security apparatus better be on hair-trigger alert. TSP will be itching to do an equal equal especially with IPL-3 underway and TSP's H&D in the toilet.

There are 2000 cops guarding the venue and the convoy of players.... I think India is prepared.. it will be too obvious...

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 12 Mar 2010 21:41

Those who want to follow the blow by blow action and reaction against Zaid Zaman Hamid can visit the following link for further enlightenment and entertainment.

Link

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 12 Mar 2010 21:41

Hmmm or are we seeing IPL security in action 'preemptively'. The seven Pakistanis who shuffled off this mortal coil in Afghanistan certainly had Indian help. Perhaps Lahore is Indian IPL security.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 12 Mar 2010 21:42

Err,
Should I post the google earth pics of the twin blasts of today and the one 2 - 3 days back of Lahore? Anyone interested?

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 12 Mar 2010 21:43

Gagan wrote:Err,
Should I post the google earth pics of the twin blasts of today and the one 2 - 3 days back of Lahore? Anyone interested?

Please do, Gagan bhai. Jai ho.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 12 Mar 2010 21:48

Its a teen tigada kaam bigada in Lahole today:
Third blast rocks lahore

LAHORE: At least three people have reportedly been injured in a blast near a police station in Moon Market area here Friday, ARY NEWS reported.

The blast occurred in a ground in the backyard of a police station at Kashmir Block in Moon Market area. Heavy smoke can be seen blowing from the scene. Rescue teams and police have been sent in the area.

Eyewitnesses said that the explosives were dug in the ground that blown up in evening, creating panic and fear among the masses. The blast was as powerful as it shattered the windowpanes of nearby houses and shops.

It was the third terror attack of the day in the city as a pair of suicide bombers targeting army vehicles detonated explosives within seconds of each other earlier today, killing at least 40 people in A R Bazar and wounding nearly 100.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 12 Mar 2010 21:57

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... pakistan/1

munna · Post by **munna** » 12 Mar 2010 22:01

A_Gupta wrote:I'm with Kamboja. Trying to meddle in fanaticism will only bite us. It has bitten everyone so far (including internally, e.g, Bhindranwale), and externally the examples are galore. The correct thing to do is to work on erecting the counter-ideology.

Guptaji and Kambojaji this is exactly my hypothesis. People from Jammu to Marathwada are not the ones seeking to protect themselves from "any" damage whatsoever. These regions have seen enough and repeated trumoil to take the blowbacks in their stride. Infact a blowback might provide them the legitimacy and the stimulus to tell Dilli/Bangalore/Mumbai (tri-nexus of peace at all costs lobby) to "shut up" and let nation sort it out the "right way". The blowback might actually be welcome to start off the things.
Jammu agitation which took place in face of opposition from state and central governments serves as a lesson to all those who needed to learn it. Dilli often over imagines the limits of its influence when push comes to shove. Chankian yindoos are too "jugadu" when it comes to red lines be it INC or BJP (not CPM).

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 12 Mar 2010 22:05

Gagan wrote:Its a teen tigada kaam bigada in Lahole today:

4 more blasts in Lahore

http://www.samaa.tv/News17914-3_more_bl ... ahore.aspx

LAHORE: Fourth blast has been heard in the the area of Allama Iqbal town near Moon Market after three bomb blasts occurred in the area of Allama Iqbal town near Mosque in Allama Iqbal town and at the back side of a foreign restaurant near Moon Market on Friday evening which injured three people.

The first blast bloc occurred near the foreign restaurant in Kashmir bloc in Allama Iqbal town. The second blast occurred in Chenab bloc in Allama Iqbal town. The third blast occurred in Zenat bloc in Allama Iqbal town.

Three people have been reported injured the three blasts till yet.

The fourth blast has also been occurred in the Allama Iqbal town.

Uday B · Post by **Uday B** » 12 Mar 2010 22:07

*News Channels Breaking News*

Guys more good news on this auspicious Friday. Fourth IED mubarak in LaWhore today.
This time it is moon market in LaWhore.

Burn TSP Burn.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 12 Mar 2010 22:09

Now they are reporting 5

amdavadi · Post by **amdavadi** » 12 Mar 2010 22:13

How soon we reach to 10 wicket? I wish extra player is able to bat today.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 12 Mar 2010 22:17

Lahore blast

"There were two suicide bombers who attacked two military vehicles within the space of 15 seconds," SSP Operations Mohammad Shafiq told Geo News.

Waiting for news reports and analysis by gurus.Great to see fireworks in Lawhore.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 12 Mar 2010 22:20

http://www.geo.tv/3-12-2010/60943.htm

LAHORE: Five back-to-back blasts of low intesity have happened in Iqbal Town of Lahore within the last 45 minutes, Geo News reported Friday.

All the five blasts have taken place in the premises of Iqbal Town.

The first blast occurred in an empty plot near crowded Moon Market in Kashmir Block. The second blast hit a car parked outside a house. The third blast occurred near Edhi Center in Kashmir Block located in Iqbal Town. The fourth blast has been reported outside the residence of a serving DSP again in Iqbal Tow. The fifth and the last blast has struck Karim Block.

No causality is reported din these attack. However, four people have received injuries.

http://www.geo.tv/3-12-2010/60938.htm

LAHORE: At least 39 people were killed and 95 others wounded on Friday after two suicide bombers struck the vehicles of Garrison Security Force near R A Bazaar in Lahore.

The heads of both alleged bombers were recovered from the scene of the blasts while two suspects were also arrested, the Inspector General of Punjab Tariq Salim Dogar told reporters after the blasts.

The IGP also confirmed the death toll.

Meanwhile, the proscribed Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) has claimed the responsibility for twin Lahore bombings.

So depending on how you count it - it is seven or six blasts.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 12 Mar 2010 22:20

Google earth locations of the blasts so far in Lahore on 12 March 2010:
Please note the locations are approximate only based on news reports and footage available from the area. Google earth ki jai ho.
The one in Model Town is 2 days old.

Model Town Blast on FIA torture cell building.

RA Market blast, south of Lahore Cantt just outside the Ghosali Mosque

Moon Market Blast actually is in the backyard of the Kashmir Block Police station across the road from the moon market. 4 policemen injured.

Will update if and when more IED mubaraks go off.

sunnyP · Post by **sunnyP** » 12 Mar 2010 22:32

Hari Seldon wrote:Kanchan gupta, Dy editor pioneer tweets:
http://twitter.com/KanchanGupta
Trivia - Lahore SSP: "We've found heads of both suicide bombers,aged 17 - 20 years." Mullahs: Bombers currently frolicking with houris.

And more -

Lad ke liya Pakistan... ab khud se lad rahe hain. Ladte raho, ladte raho... till last man/woman/child standing... Jinnah's curse. about 1 hours ago via TweetDeck

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 12 Mar 2010 22:34

I wonder how soon CIA / Mossad / RAW get blamed for this one.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 12 Mar 2010 22:41

http://www.facebook.com/search/?flt=1&q ... 1242029..1

I am looking at the wall messages mentioning Lahore. Not one is blaming the terrorists. And most of the message are - Allah have mercy on us! & ALLAH hum sab ki hifazar farmaye AAMEEN

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Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 12 Mar 2010 22:43

More blasts happening as we speak.

Possible 7th blast heard in lahore.

Are they celebrating Diwali there?

amdavadi · Post by **amdavadi** » 12 Mar 2010 22:45

I am saying we are able to get 10 wicket today & possibly extra player will bat. This is all to celebrate IPL3

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 12 Mar 2010 22:46

Dawn TV news Live

http://www.dawn.com/dntv-live/index.html

Uday B · Post by **Uday B** » 12 Mar 2010 22:50

Gagan wrote:More blasts happening as we speak.

Possible 7th blast heard in lahore.

Are they celebrating Diwali there?

Gaganji,

Don't associate the hindu festival diwali with the land of the pigs. Paklurks might get upset and start to embrace jihad, if they already are not

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 12 Mar 2010 22:51

People settling personal scores by indulging in IED mubarak:
Quetta home bombed, injuring four persons

Friday, 12 Mar, 2010
QUETTA: Four perons have been injured during an explosion in Sariab Road area of Quetta.

Police say unknown militants hurled a bomb inside the house of an agriculture department employee in Sariab Road. The blast left four persons including two women injured.

...

Uday B · Post by **Uday B** » 12 Mar 2010 22:53

amdavadi wrote:I am saying we are able to get 10 wicket today & possibly extra player will bat. This is all to celebrate IPL3

I thought LaWhore Badshahs were part of the ICL

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 12 Mar 2010 22:54

Five blasts followed after Lahore twin suicide attacks

LAHORE: After the deadly twin suicide attacks in Lahore Cantonment that killed 39 and injured about a 100. Lahore’s Moon Market has witnessed five low intensity blasts within an hour of each other.

No casulaties have been reported in the explosions, only minor injuries that needed first aid treatment.

...

milindc · Post by **milindc** » 12 Mar 2010 22:55

Gagan wrote:More blasts happening as we speak.

Possible 7th blast heard in lahore.
Are they celebrating Diwali there?

The clowns are celebrating the launch party of IPL 3. Lahori gandus are busy watching the IPL spectacle, hence the runs scored are less.

Samay · Post by **Samay** » 12 Mar 2010 22:56

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Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 12 Mar 2010 23:00

Guys...we are in the end game. A recent report of 3000 soosai players sneaked into pakistan and ready for deployment is critical. If true, everyone there has reason to be scared $hitless. Things are going to move very fast from here on (at least I hope).

We need to put some pressure on Pakistan to carve out a green zone *within pakistan* for pakis to move in. That will put a soft (or should I say green) pressure on paki army from the locals.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 12 Mar 2010 23:03

From Dawn news.

The first blast occurred in Kashmir Block near Moon Market which had only three months earlier been reduced to ashes.

The second explosion took place in Iqbal Town’s Kashmir block in front of Group Captain Pakistan Airforce, Inam-ul-Haq’s home.

The third blast took place in Iqbal Town’s Muslim Block in front of Edhi Welfare and Ambulance and Rescue 1122 offices.

The fourth blast occurred outside the home of DSP Punjab Police, Khalid Javed Chaudhry in Iqbal Town’s Karim Block.

The fifth blast took place in Iqbal Town area but the exact area is not being ascertained. – DawnNews

Iqbal Block is the area adjoining the moon market area. All these blocks are various parts of that area. Pakistan's Lollywood is also located here.

Moon market is an upscale area for the rich and was also bombed last year on Dec 8 2009 and there were 42 killed, 135 injured in twin blasts

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 12 Mar 2010 23:05

equal equal from BeeB:

A news website had published a message reported to be from the 313 Brigade, an operational arm of al-Qaeda, that threatened the IPL, Commonwealth Games and Hockey World Cup, all of which are being held in India.

This followed a threat against Australian players competing in the IPL from the right-wing Hindu group Shiv Sena.

No mention of attackes against Indians by the white Aussies in setting the context of why SS said no Aussies; and I don't recall them issuing a threat (hate to come to the defense of SS but have to in the interest of journalistic objectivity

.).