Rahul-ji,Rahul M wrote:sum, it's not even a month since those dates ! you can see how the timelines slip in any major program. even by years ! these things happen.
KrishG wrote:Hindustan Aeronautics to go it alone on observation helicopter
Hindustan Aeronautics has decided against seeking an international partner for its light observation helicopter programme, and will undertake the development by itself.
"We have gained a lot of experience and learnt a lot over the years manufacturing the Cheetah and Chetak, and then developing the Dhruv [advanced light helicopter]," says a senior official at the state-owned firm. "There will be some degree of commonality in terms of systems with Dhruv and the LCH [light combat helicopter], but this will otherwise be a new helicopter."The company has begun preliminary design studies into a 3t helicopter powered by a single HAL/Turbomeca Shakti engine. The aircraft will have a range of up to 500km (270nm) and a 500kg (1,100lb) payload. The first example should fly by 2015.
Very few IIT guys are actually interested in joining up.sum wrote:Where did it mention in the article that the IITs were not approached?Brando wrote:^^ Weird that the IAF chose some obscure colleges instead of going first to the IITs to select the best amongst the brightest. But such things are not really surprising considering that IITians have always had a poor record of being selected into the Armed forces.
Couldn't both have happened parallely? Should all recruits to the IAF be only from the IITs?
where did you get that ?Bheem wrote: 2015 shows an extremely slow speed especially when HAL is not building any major components and is just going to be system integrator of imported components
Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) wants to give its troubled HPT-32 Deepak basic propeller trainer aircraft a ballistic recovery system (BRS) -- a capability that principally involves a heavy-duty parachute that deploys during an emergency (spins, stalls, etc) and lowers the entire aircraft to the ground with the intention of saving the lives of the crew and limiting mechanical damage to the plane. HAL has received clearance from the Indian Air Force to fit approximately 120 HPT-32s in service -- but grounded since August 2009 after a fatal crash -- with a BRS developed specifically for the aircraft type. HAL has floated a tender for the system, and is understood to have already begun discussions with American firm BRS Aerospace, which appears to have pioneered the technology for several light aircraft including the Cirrus series and the light Cessnas.
HAL's tender stipulates that the BRS should be able to recover the HPT-32 in an emergency situation during any phase of its flight envelope including aerobatics. And on deploying, the system should be capable of lowering the aircraft with a rate of descent at touch down not exceeding 8.5 m/sec, and of course, without causing any injury to the crew. The minimum height of deployment for safe recovery of the aircraft has been put at 100-metres AGL or less.
Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) wants to give its troubled HPT-32 Deepak basic propeller trainer aircraft a ballistic recovery system (BRS) -- a capability that principally involves a heavy-duty parachute that deploys during an emergency (spins, stalls, etc) and lowers the entire aircraft to the ground with the intention of saving the lives of the crew and limiting mechanical damage to the plane. HAL has received clearance from the Indian Air Force to fit approximately 120 HPT-32s in service -- but grounded since August 2009 after a fatal crash with a BRS developed specifically for the aircraft type. HAL has floated a tender for the system, and is understood to have already begun discussions with American firm BRS Aerospace, which appears to have pioneered the technology for several light aircraft including the Cirrus series and the light Cessnas.
HAL's tender stipulates that the BRS should be able to recover the HPT-32 in an emergency situation during any phase of its flight envelope including aerobatics. And on deploying, the system should be capable of lowering the aircraft with a rate of descent at touch down not exceeding 8.5 m/sec, and of course, without causing any injury to the crew. The minimum height of deployment for safe recovery of the aircraft has been put at 100-metres AGL or less.
even if iit guys want to go in armed forces few will be selected because they too are treated go through all the SSB selection procedures just like any other person with B.E from some other college and not all can pass through SSB.chetak wrote:Very few IIT guys are actually interested in joining up.sum wrote: Where did it mention in the article that the IITs were not approached?
Couldn't both have happened parallely? Should all recruits to the IAF be only from the IITs?
Secondly, all comers are blindly taken in. They all have to go through a SSB screening procedure that involves psychological testing.
There are also physical standards, though fairly liberal, that still have to be satisfied.
For pilots there are strict limits for leg lengths, vision etc.
Really? How different is the military ACAS from the civilian ACAS. At some point your military transponder would be turned-on to be able to detect both civilian and military aircraft.The aircraft will also be fitted with equipment like air collision avoidance system, ground proximity warning system, satellite navigation system, distance measuring equipment, upgraded radio altimeters and improved seats for crew members, they said.
Fighter pilots wore diapers and flew non-stop for more than nine hours to carry out the Indian Air Force's farthest and longest bombing exercise recently - symbolising the IAF's extended reach.
They flew Sukhoi-30 MKI fighters to destroy mock targets in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands.
A senior IAF officer told HT, "The fighters dropped air-to-ground ordnance for the first time on an uninhabited island in the Andamans. We want to exploit the location of these islands to train fighter pilots for extreme missions."
Six fighter planes were launched from air force bases in Bareilly and Pune for the experimental long-haul mission. Russian Ilyushin-78 refuellers flew from Agra to tank up the Sukhois during the flight over the Bay of Bengal.
The officer said long-range missions would be planned regularly from now on to push the limits of technology and human endurance.
Fighter pilots may have to get used to carrying more loads in their diapers. The officer said future missions would be more complex, requiring them to stay airborne for 12 to 15 hours. "We can keep the fighters airborne for as long as we want.
Refuellers are a game-changer," he said. The Air Force has started providing diapers to pilots as 'standard clothing'.
Former IAF chief Air Chief Marshal Fali Homi Major, said, "The IAF seems to be gearing up for expeditionary missions. Human endurance should not be a limiting factor in the cockpit."
could we have done this before on the Surya Kiran's that crashed recently in hyderabad airshow?.the latest news is the building on which the Aircraft crashed is still sealed off,and neighbors complain of foul smell from the building suspecting that some charred remains of the pilot may be still there
. So Sad!!!Could be true, last I heard that only 1.5 Kg body mass of the pilot (who went down with the plane) was recovered. RIP.narayana wrote:the latest news is the building on which the Aircraft crashed is still sealed off,and neighbors complain of foul smell from the building suspecting that some charred remains of the pilot may be still there
it was just an unfounded rumour.Dmurphy wrote:Well we seem to have missed <this> out during the A-330 v/s Il-78 war!
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(Reuters) - Russia denied on Monday that its state-run United Aviation Corporation (UAC) planned to bid for a $50 billion contract to replace the U.S. Air Force's fleet of air tankers, rivaling Boeing Co and Europe's EADS.
John Kirkland, a Los Angeles-based attorney, had told various news media over the weekend that UAC would announce a joint venture on Monday with a U.S. defense contractor to enter the bidding for the tanker deal.
UAC denied it had held any talks on bidding for the contract. "We have not been holding, are not holding and are not planning to hold such talks," said a UAC official.
Separately, UAC vice-president Alexander Tulyakov said the attorney did not work for the company. "John Kirkland is not a UAC representative and we have had no communications with him (about the tender)," he told Reuters.
Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had not discussed any Russian role in the contract when they met on Friday, Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov said. "It was not a topic at the talks," he told Reuters.
The U.S. Air Force has been trying for nearly a decade to replace its fleet of Boeing-built KC-135 tanker aircraft, which are close to 50 years old.
EADS (EAD.PA), the parent company of Airbus, won a deal in 2008 to build an initial 179 tankers, only to have it canceled after auditors intervened. The Pentagon said last week that EADS had expressed possible interested in continuing to compete with Boeing (BA.N) for the contract.
Kirkland quoted Alexander Shishkin, who he said worked for the Russian Federal Service of Military-Technical Cooperation, as saying the U.S.-Russian joint venture being formed to bid would be announced at UAC headquarters on Monday morning.
However Shishkin, when contacted by Reuters on Monday, said he could not say anything. He would not even confirm he worked for the Federal Service of Military-Technical Cooperation. "I cannot say anything until the bosses decide something," he said.
UAC's Tulyakov also said Russia was making arms sales abroad only via state arms export monopoly Rosoboronexport. "We have held no discussions with them (about the tender)," he added.
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An official at the agency said that there was nobody called Alexander Shishkin listed as working there.
Kirkland had said Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov discussed a UAC bid for the tanker contract at a meeting with Clinton. Russia's Foreign Ministry declined comment on Monday.
Neither Russian nor U.S. officials mentioned at the time any discussions about a tanker bid. Clinton held a bilateral meeting with Lavrov on Thursday and met President Dmitry Medvedev and Putin on Friday separately.
Kirkland said that a Russian bid would be based on a widebody version of UAC's Ilyushin-96 aircraft, which he said would be called the Ilyushin-98.
"There are some internal discussions within the UAC, but very preliminary ones, about the production of an air tanker based on the Il-96. But to talk about Russian air tankers refueling U.S. military planes -- it is from the realms of fantasy," said a UAC source, who asked not to be named.
Fewer than 30 Ilyushin-96 aircraft have been produced and the plane is considered technically inferior to Western competitors. Russian news media reported last year that production of the passenger variant had been canceled, although a cargo version is still in limited production. Russian media have made no mention of a new version of the Il-96 called the Il-98.
This is great news... Finally something being done with the capability we now poses...Nikhil T wrote:IAF Pilots wear diapers on bombing missionsFighter pilots wore diapers and flew non-stop for more than nine hours to carry out the Indian Air Force's farthest and longest bombing exercise recently - symbolising the IAF's extended reach.
They flew Sukhoi-30 MKI fighters to destroy mock targets in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands.
A senior IAF officer told HT, "The fighters dropped air-to-ground ordnance for the first time on an uninhabited island in the Andamans. We want to exploit the location of these islands to train fighter pilots for extreme missions."
Six fighter planes were launched from air force bases in Bareilly and Pune for the experimental long-haul mission. Russian Ilyushin-78 refuellers flew from Agra to tank up the Sukhois during the flight over the Bay of Bengal.
The officer said long-range missions would be planned regularly from now on to push the limits of technology and human endurance.
Fighter pilots may have to get used to carrying more loads in their diapers. The officer said future missions would be more complex, requiring them to stay airborne for 12 to 15 hours. "We can keep the fighters airborne for as long as we want.
Refuellers are a game-changer," he said. The Air Force has started providing diapers to pilots as 'standard clothing'.
Former IAF chief Air Chief Marshal Fali Homi Major, said, "The IAF seems to be gearing up for expeditionary missions. Human endurance should not be a limiting factor in the cockpit."
Brahmananda wrote:<SNIP> Then B-52 aircraft flies in and drops a CBU-105 bomb. A single bomb releases several small bomblets which identify their individual targets destroying them almost simultaneously.
It is our national tradition to Close The Barn Doors After The Horse Has Bolted.narayana wrote:could we have done this before on the Surya Kiran's that crashed recently in hyderabad airshow?.the latest news is the building on which the Aircraft crashed is still sealed off,and neighbors complain of foul smell from the building suspecting that some charred remains of the pilot may be still there
Its not as if there are no more horses left to bolt, and future safety can be ignored!chetak wrote:It is our national tradition to Close The Barn Doors After The Horse Has Bolted.
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Officials said one aim of the visit was to "resolve pending issues through dialogue and understanding."
The two countries are also likely to have discussed issues pertaining to the purchase of an additional 57 Hawks as there were certain problems between the two sides regarding the price quoted by the UK-based aircraft manufacturer BAE Systems.
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The two countries will also carry out an air-to-air exercise codenamed 'Indradhanush' in October this year at the Kalaikunda air base in West Bengal.
wow... that's some capability.. wonder how long before we can develop something similar... DARE and CABS should design something like this which can be mounted on the saras...ASTOR can even detect minor variations in surface levels, like digging and filling of earth at the same place, and draw conclusions about activity
they've been using that capability in Afghanistan to detect which places IEDs have been freshly planted. An amazing application for such a high-tech radar.Bala Vignesh wrote:wow... that's some capability.. wonder how long before we can develop something similar... DARE and CABS should design something like this which can be mounted on the saras...ASTOR can even detect minor variations in surface levels, like digging and filling of earth at the same place, and draw conclusions about activity
Kartik wrote:
they've been using that capability in Afghanistan to detect which places IEDs have been freshly planted. An amazing application for such a high-tech radar.
An F-18 used the same AND sent the picture to the ground in real-time in Iraq.Kartik wrote:they've been using that capability in Afghanistan to detect which places IEDs have been freshly planted. An amazing application for such a high-tech radar.Bala Vignesh wrote: wow... that's some capability.. wonder how long before we can develop something similar... DARE and CABS should design something like this which can be mounted on the saras...
They have just finished some clamped ground runs onlee.Rahul M wrote:sum, it's not even a month since those dates ! you can see how the timelines slip in any major program. even by years ! these things happen.
TCAS (Traffic Collision & Avoidance System) is a type of ACAS (Airborne Collision Avoidance System).HarishV wrote:AN32 Upgrades in Ukraine
http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/mar/ ... grades.htm
Really? How different is the military ACAS from the civilian ACAS. At some point your military transponder would be turned-on to be able to detect both civilian and military aircraft.The aircraft will also be fitted with equipment like air collision avoidance system, ground proximity warning system, satellite navigation system, distance measuring equipment, upgraded radio altimeters and improved seats for crew members, they said.
How does the AN32 do without it at the moment?
For some reason, there didnt seem to be even one clear picture of the BetAB 500 bomb on the net.shiv wrote:Apart from that I would expect that a series (at least 4 in the picture of Su's dropping them ) of betabs would result in a serial string of explosions to crater a length of runway. One hole just ain't enough.andy B wrote: The explosion below resembles a lot more to a HE explosive or even a fuel air burst
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/media/VS2 ... 3.jpg.html
http://i.flamber.ru/files/st1/121192255 ... 0130_o.jpgJagan wrote: For some reason, there didnt seem to be even one clear picture of the BetAB 500 bomb on the net.
Janes has a nice write up at http://www.janes.com/articles/Janes-Air ... ation.html
but no pics anywhere!
Added Later: ok found a couple
http://www.red-stars.org/IMG/jpg/betab500shp.jpg
http://sistemadearmas.sites.uol.com.br/ ... 500shp.jpg
We so sure wish...narayana wrote:could we have done this before on the Surya Kiran's that crashed recently in hyderabad airshow?.the latest news is the building on which the Aircraft crashed is still sealed off,and neighbors complain of foul smell from the building suspecting that some charred remains of the pilot may be still there
Isn't that wishful thinking?? We would at least need 6-8 to do that i'd have thought..The second AWACS will arrive in Jamnagar in Gujarat and will be deployed in Agra, IAF officials said here today. With the arrival of the second AWACS, officials said the IAF can keep an eye on both the eastern and western front at the same time.
"After the induction of the third system, we would be able to virtually cover the whole nation at one go," they added.
Haven't they been in "advanced stage of discussion" for the last 2-3 years?? Wonder if anythings going to come off it.. Though I truly hope it does.. will at least ensure 4-5 'operational' phalcon's at any given time..India and Israel are said to be in advanced negotiations for the purchase of three more Phalcon AWACS, which the IAF proposes to integrate with other air and ground assets. All six AWACS would be linked with the country's first military satellite proposed to be launched by the middle of next year.
As it shifts from hunting for nuclear missiles to detecting roadside bombs, it is outshining even the unmanned drones in gathering a rich array of intelligence used to fight the Taliban.
This spy plane seems to be very effective however there were no major updates or newer models introduced later...In addition, the U-2's altitude, once a defense against antiaircraft missiles, enables it to scoop up signals from insurgent phone conversations that mountains would otherwise block.
The engine division of Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) at Sunabeda in Orissa's Koraput district has got a separate overhauling department for Sukhoi-30 MKI fighter aircraft. The facility was inaugurated by Union Minister of state for defence, M M Pallam Raju on Saturday.
The people of the state must be feeling proud for having a division of HAL at Sunabeda, Raju said. He also visited the M S Swaminathan Research Foundation at Jeypore in the same district. The minister, who reached Sunabeda in a special helicopter, also reviewed the performance of the engine division of HAL, a public sector undertaking of the Government of India.
The engine division of HAL has a long term plan to undertake manufacture of AL-31FP engines for Sukhoi-30 KLI aircraft under license, sources said. The division has a unique distinction of manufacturing almost all types of components required for the manufacture and overhaul of engines and spares for service exploitation.
