India-Australia News and Discussion

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 29 Mar 2010 14:06

assies deserve it and more... go pander, k_ruud.. add some mandarin if you please..

China jails Rio Tinto executives
http://beta.thehindu.com/news/internati ... 320942.ece

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 29 Mar 2010 21:24

But construction yahoos will fight for their "rights"
while others are denied even safety.

http://news.rediff.com/interview/2010/m ... e-site.htm

Aus: Indian couple adamant on meat ban at house site
March 29, 2010 16:58 IST

An Indian-origin couple building a multi-million dollar mansion in Melbourne [ Images ], who have run into a dispute with their construction workers over eating ham sandwiches and meat pies during work, are adamant that they do not want their religious sentiments to be hurt.

Pankaj and Radhika Oswal, the vegetarian couple, who are building a dream house including a swimming pool, did not want their construction workers to partake meat on the site."Meat eating is creating bad karma and you are also creating a vicious cycle," Radhika, who along with her husband owns vegetarian fast-food chain Otarian, said.

"It's destroying us environmentally, economically and socially. I'm putting my money where my mouth is. I've always been a vegetarian so I have always felt strongly about it. First, because of religious reasons, but then later because I realised the greater good associated with it," said Radhika, who in past accused the meat industry of "raping the earth".

Pankaj, who is in New York this week helping Radhika prepare for the launch of her vegetarian fast-food chain, Otarian, defended the meat ban, saying "This is our home". But, the Western Australian Construction Union have taken up the cause of the workers, saying that in the country they had full right to take food of their choice.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 31 Mar 2010 00:05

The decendants of convicts are dreaming a lot these days !

We must look west to the Indian Ocean, and opportunity

We should be a pre-eminent country in the Indian Ocean region. Australia is the largest Indian Ocean state as measured by the extent of our maritime claims. But Australia has been treading water when it comes to advancing our interests in the Indian Ocean.

Surya · Post by **Surya** » 31 Mar 2010 08:01

who cannot like a good meat pie ???

nice crust, a little curry ketchup - yumm - just had 2 last week

biswas · Post by **biswas** » 31 Mar 2010 16:45

Surya wrote:who cannot like a good meat pie ???

nice crust, a little curry ketchup - yumm - just had 2 last week

Meat pies are disgusting, HJs ftw

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 02 Apr 2010 22:51

Beyond curry and cricket accord

ANALYSIS: India riled by Australia's quirky rules on uranium sales

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 05 Apr 2010 05:23

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 761223.cms

Perhaps India should levy a 'colonial exploitation' tax on Australia raw materials.

Reddy · Post by **Reddy** » 06 Apr 2010 08:41

Narendrakumar Patel's 'throat cut' at Brisbane's Roma Street Station
The daily telegraph link

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 07 Apr 2010 00:07

Australia not to supply uranium to India
Australia on Tuesday ruled out changing its policy and said it would not supply uranium to India, which is seeking fuel for its nuclear energy programme, a media report said.Australian Trade Minister Simon Crean told reporters in Canberra: "There is no prospect for a change. "We have consistently said, made this clear to India that we, because of our policy, cannot supply to countries that are non-signatories to the non-proliferation treaty," the Australian Financial Review quoted him as saying.In August 2007, the government of John Howard agreed to sell uranium to India subject to the finalisation of a US-India nuclear deal and the conclusion of a bilateral Australia-India nuclear safeguards agreement.
But Kevin Rudd's government overturned the decision after taking power in December that year.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/rssfeed/w ... 27858.aspx

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 17 Apr 2010 22:53

India's high-tech company Moser Baer will introduce its solar cells to Australia:

http://www.ciol.com/Semicon/Solar/PV/Ne ... /134917/0/

I have to say this is one of the wisest decision Aussies have made in a while.

Chinmayanand · Post by **Chinmayanand** » 19 Apr 2010 01:32

Migrants may become majority in Australia by 2025

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 19 Apr 2010 02:24

Chinmayanand wrote:Migrants may become majority in Australia by 2025

But havent they been since the last three centuries

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 19 Apr 2010 03:41

You mean there is a moral equivalence between the murdering hordes of British Christendom and latter day economic migrants?

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 19 Apr 2010 05:08

sanjaykumar wrote:You mean there is a moral equivalence between the murdering hordes of British Christendom and latter day economic migrants?

nope not at all. In fact the damage is being slowly undone.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 19 Apr 2010 05:23

ravi_ku wrote:
sanjaykumar wrote:You mean there is a moral equivalence between the murdering hordes of British Christendom and latter day economic migrants?
nope not at all. In fact the damage is being slowly undone.

Who can forget that Indigenous Australians Aboriginal people moved out of South India and brought human civilization to this land called Australia. This make Indians are the rightful owner of thsi land stolen by AS criminals.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 19 Apr 2010 06:54

Congratulations hehehe I had anticipated a long lost kinship of Aborigines and certain obscure South Indian tribes. Only I thought it would take the Inidan GDP to approach $3 trillion before things so unpleasant were articulated.

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 21 Apr 2010 11:15

http://www.newkerala.com/news/fullnews-92467.html

Australia has consistently opposed uranium exports to India even though the IAEA and the 45-nation Nuclear-Suppliers Group (NSG) have already given India the go-ahead for nuclear trade with the world after the Indo-US Civil Nuclear agreement.

It seems like Australia is acting belligerent even though IAEA and NSG have given India a go-ahead. Their racist mind cannot seem to come to terms with rising India, it seems. I think it will be a good idea to identify some key investments India has in Australia, increase them for a short period of time and then cut them off completely.

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 22 Apr 2010 10:53

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-na ... -tdz7.html

Australians are also still advised not to travel to the Jammu and Kashmir regions, and reconsider going to the north-eastern states of Assam, Nagaland, Tripura and Manipur.

It seems like all the fun places are a no go for Aussies.

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 24 Apr 2010 12:20

Kolkata: The Australian government may bring about a change in the law to export uranium to India, since the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG), of which Australia is a member, has enabled India to carry out nuclear commerce.

Papps said Australia wants India to share costs with it in infrastructure projects required to support the mining expansion projects in Australia and that it was hunting for investors in India.

However, Australia was also trying to find partners in the US, Canada, Germany and China but so far none has agreed to participate in developing infrastructure projects, Papps said.

http://www.financialexpress.com/news/Au ... ia/610702/

r_subramanian · Post by **r_subramanian** » 24 Apr 2010 13:14

Karan Dixit wrote:http://www.newkerala.com/news/fullnews-92467.html

Australia has consistently opposed uranium exports to India even though the IAEA and the 45-nation Nuclear-Suppliers Group (NSG) have already given India the go-ahead for nuclear trade with the world after the Indo-US Civil Nuclear agreement.
It seems like Australia is acting belligerent even though IAEA and NSG have given India a go-ahead. Their racist mind cannot seem to come to terms with rising India, it seems. I think it will be a good idea to identify some key investments India has in Australia, increase them for a short period of time and then cut them off completely.

Karan Dixit
It is not being racist - it is simply being ideological.
The opposition Liberal party is all for exporting uranium to India. They would have followed U.S.A in this; unfortunately they lost the federal elections nearly 3 years ago. The ruling Labor party (especially the leftist wing of the party) is against exporting uranium to any country which is not a signatory to NNPT. The state governments of South Australia and Queensland (both under Labor-rule and having uranium mines) are against exporting uranium to India. However, Western Australia (which is under Liberal rule and has uranium mines too) is all for it.

The conservative (Rupert Murdoch owned) 'The Australian' regularly runs articles by Greg Sheridan (its foreign editor) supporting the idea of uranium export to India.

The following is a quote from a recent lecture by Mr.Tony Abbot (the leader of the opposition Liberal party at the federal parliament) at Lowy institute in Sydney:

Notwithstanding the Prime Minister's assertion about a new strategic relationship, the abolition of the Quadrilateral Security Dialogue alienated India as well as Japan. There will be no breakthroughs while the Government maintains its ban on uranium exports. This stance clearly has far more to do with ALP internal politics than with New Delhi's failure to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. The Government has refused to budge despite the opposition to the current policy of Labor's longest-serving foreign minister, Gareth Evans and despite the fact that greater Indian access to civilian nuclear technology would help to reduce its greenhouse gas emissions. The Obama Government in America has accepted that India could not sign the NPT (because it possesses nuclear weapons) but has nonetheless approved uranium sales because of India's flawless record in not proliferating nuclear technology. As previously announced by Julie Bishop, subject to suitable safeguards, a Coalition government would follow the Obama policy.

link

rahuls · Post by **rahuls** » 24 Apr 2010 20:00

This seems to be an accurate description of ground situation in Australia about Indian students. But still not convinced that racism isn't an issue.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home ... 826770.cms

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 24 Apr 2010 20:51

r_subramanian wrote: Karan Dixit
It is not being racist - it is simply being ideological.

Does this make kevin rudd a chinese imperialist and colonial running dog??

He certainly takes his orders from beijing.

r_subramanian · Post by **r_subramanian** » 25 Apr 2010 01:32

chetak wrote:
r_subramanian wrote: Karan Dixit
It is not being racist - it is simply being ideological.
Does this make kevin rudd a chinese imperialist and colonial running dog??

He certainly takes his orders from beijing.

Kevin Rudd is a fluent Mandarin speaker and has worked as a {junior?} diplomat in Beijing. He is known to have a soft corner for anything Chinese. His daughter is married to a Chinese-Australian and one of his brothers works in China. I am not sure if he is a 'running dog for Chinese' but it is very likely that he is personally not inclined to approve the export of uranium to India.
Please understand the opposition to sale mainly comes from the leftist wing within an essentially leftist party. They tend to be very 'liberal' in matters race and very 'ideological' in maters commerce. The conservatives are the other way round!
It looks as if Labor will win the next federal elections. They may allow Indian ownership of uranium mines in Australia but unlikely to approve the export of uranium to India.

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 25 Apr 2010 02:14

Now this news item caught my eye .. posting without comments
Gay dogs not welcome, diner in South Australia told

RESTAURANT in a northwest suburb of Adelaide that refused a blind man entry because it thought his guide dog was "gay" was ordered by the Equal Opportunity Tribunal to pay him $1500.

The (Adelaide) Sunday Mail said Ian Jolly, 57, was barred from dining at the Thai Spice restaurant in May 2009 after a staff member mistook his guide dog Nudge for a "gay dog," a tribunal heard this week.

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 05 May 2010 09:13

I cannot believe these Aussies. First, they fail to protect the lives of Indian students living in Australia and when Indians complain they say Indians are doing this to pressure Australia for Uranium. Come on Australia! You are not the sole source of Uranium on this earth. There are other sources where India can get the Uranium from. However, it is clear that Australia is acting belligerent on the issue of Uranium sale to India. Australia is hooked on the NPT and ignoring the fact that both NSG and IAEA have given India green lights. It is very clear that Australia has no problems with selling Uranium to totalitarian regimes like China but it cannot bring itself to sell Uranium to a credible democracy like India. It is indeed troubling.

http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/asiapa ... 890262.htm

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 05 May 2010 09:17

Amber G. wrote:Now this news item caught my eye .. posting without comments
Gay dogs not welcome, diner in South Australia told
RESTAURANT in a northwest suburb of Adelaide that refused a blind man entry because it thought his guide dog was "gay" was ordered by the Equal Opportunity Tribunal to pay him $1500.

The (Adelaide) Sunday Mail said Ian Jolly, 57, was barred from dining at the Thai Spice restaurant in May 2009 after a staff member mistook his guide dog Nudge for a "gay dog," a tribunal heard this week.

How do they find out if a male dog is gay? Do they have a female dog handy on the premise to test the male dog's straightness? That land called Australia is amazing to say the least.

Ameet · Post by **Ameet** » 06 May 2010 03:14

Australia seeks free trade agreement with India

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/69bb2cec-5865 ... ab49a.html

Australia and India are to push ahead with negotiations on a free trade agreement that is expected to help Canberra balance its increasing reliance on trade with east Asia, particularly China.

Simon Crean, Australia’s minister for trade, said in an interview with the Financial Times during a visit to Mumbai that the agreement would be “comprehensive”, meaning both sides would agree to open their sensitive agriculture markets as well as goods and services and investment.

India has risen from a low base to become Australia’s fastest growing two-way trading partner, with the flow of goods and services between the pair reaching nearly A$22bn ($19.9bn, £13.1bn, €18.7bn) in the year ended June 30 2009, up 55 per cent over a year earlier.

According to the free trade feasibility study, an agreement between India and Australia to liberalise trade could add a net US$32bn to Australia’s gross domestic product and US$34bn to India’s over the next 20 years, or potentially more than 1 percentage point each of GDP.

Australia’s exports to India have risen an annual average of 25 per cent over the past five years. India is Australia’s fourth biggest export market, up from 13th a decade ago.

andy B · Post by **andy B** » 10 May 2010 05:47

r_subramanian wrote: Kevin Rudd is a fluent Mandarin speaker and has worked as a {junior?} diplomat in Beijing. He is known to have a soft corner for anything Chinese. His daughter is married to a Chinese-Australian and one of his brothers works in China. I am not sure if he is a 'running dog for Chinese' but it is very likely that he is personally not inclined to approve the export of uranium to India.
Please understand the opposition to sale mainly comes from the leftist wing within an essentially leftist party. They tend to be very 'liberal' in matters race and very 'ideological' in maters commerce. The conservatives are the other way round!
It looks as if Labor will win the next federal elections. They may allow Indian ownership of uranium mines in Australia but unlikely to approve the export of uranium to India.

Ruddy's mandarin is laughable let alone fluent....Labour is getting into enough trouble in oz due to some of its latest policy bumbles like the mining tax....the liberals of howard era are in trouble due to Peter Costello and Malcom Turnbull both resigning Tony Abott the opposition leader sounds like a sports jock with no idea...will be interesting in the next fed elections the Liberals will need to get their own house sorted ASAP! strictly IMVHO

Gaurav_S · Post by **Gaurav_S** » 24 May 2010 15:26

Three years' jail for taxi driver attack

A man who viciously bashed a Melbourne taxi driver and admitted the attack may have been "racially inspired" because he hated Indians was today jailed for a maximum of three years.

Murat Kilinc, 22, had told a psychologist the core issue of his and his family's culture of hatred towards Indians was their apparent lack of concern for others.

The victim, 23, a student and part-time taxi driver, suffered a fractured skull, nose and cheekbone in the attack at dawn on February 16, 2008.

Prosecutor Jim Bessell last week told the County Court witnesses heard screams, moans and cries and two people running before finding the driver surrounded by blood in his cab.

Psychologist Rachael Freeland had said a combination of Kilinc's alcohol abuse, anger issues and underlying hatred of Indians might have "contributed" to the offence.

But she said that subconsciously Kilinc's offence may have been racially inspired, but not consciously.

Kilinc, unemployed, pleaded guilty to recklessly causing serious injury.

Defence barrister Gregory Hughan said Kilinc, then 19 and on bail for other offences, was on a downward spiral after his father left home and a relationship ended.

In his sentencing this morning, Judge Joe Gullaci agreed with the psychologist, saying that he was not satisfied beyond reasonable doubt that the victim was attacked because he was Indian.

Judge Gullaci said he was also unable to be satisfied whether the attack was preplanned or had happened after Kilinc and another passenger intended to evade the fare.

In ordering Kilinc to serve a minimum of 18 months, he said alcohol-fuelled attacks on taxi drivers would be denounced by courts and dealt with severely.

Judge Gullaci said such vulnerable people going about their normal business must be permitted to work without fear of being attacked by cowards, bashed senseless and left unconscious in deserted back streets.

The age

Aren't such incidents enough to prove Oz's are by and large racist.

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 24 May 2010 21:25

The apology for this case is that Murat is a turkish first name. The question is how would a psychologist be able to determine if a hatred is subconscious, but not conscious. And how would a judge buy that argument and allow someone to get away with a three year term. The part that is especially bugging is this: "Judge Gallaci says he is not satisfied beyond reasonable doubt that the victim was attacked because he was Indian." However, Murat Kilinc had pleaded guilty and claimed that he and his family's culture of hatred towards Indians contributed to the incident in some sense. This seems like new-age anglais to defend yourself.

Wait for a paki to claim that his being born in pakisatan subconsciously contributed to being a jehadi while consciously, he never intended that to be the case. Waiting for the goras to act nice and uppity then....

rajpa · Post by **rajpa** » 25 May 2010 05:59

i am in australia for a week.. had five of the locals come over (really close) to me and ask for the nearest curry joint.. i pointed to one two doors away.. one of them muttered some abuses under his breath.. and then asked me if i had a job.. told him i was touring the great land of australia.. he muttered sarcastically that i would have a good time... i said thank you.. and then he said the cabs here are no good.. i said oh really thank you i will rent a car and drive around.. he and his friends just walked off after that..

as a dch jingo i knew something like this could happen.. it did and i came out good.. was a good buzz though!

Ameet · Post by **Ameet** » 05 Jun 2010 01:17

Indians rank fourth in Australia's biggest migrant community

http://www.hindustantimes.com/indians-a ... 49243.aspx

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 09 Jun 2010 10:54

India today asked Australia to show "flexibility" on its position that it would not export uranium to New Delhi, saying Canberra should think again as the global community is slowly coming around to "supporting India" on the supply of nuclear fuel.

Power Minister Sushil Kumar Shinde, who met Australian Foreign Minister Stephen Smith today, asked the government to show "flexibility" on its policy not to supply uranium to India as it had not signed the NPT.

"The whole world is supporting India. Those countries who are lagging behind, they should think (again)," Shinde told reporters after his meeting with Smith.

http://www.business-standard.com/india/ ... t/97053/on

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 12 Jun 2010 16:08

Breaking News:
Australia denies visa to Indian lawn bowls team

SYDNEY: An Indian lawn bowls team was denied visa to come on a training trip as immigrations officials were not convinced about the players' financial capacity to support their stay in the country.

The 16 players and a trainer were supposed to land on Saturday after being invited to play at St Johns Park Bowling Club in western Sydney as part of a training programme for the Commonwealth Games in New Delhi this October.

But immigration officials in Delhi were not convinced about the team's financial capacity to pay for the stay.

"Consideration was given to each applicant's reasons for visiting Australia, their financial capacity and their incentives to return to their home country," an immigration spokesman was quoted as saying by 'The Age'.

"If applicants have insufficient funds to support their stay or a determination is made there are insufficient incentives for an applicant's return home, the visa application is refused," he said.

"People from all countries have the same right and opportunity to enter our country," he added.

The Indian team's coach, Australian Richard Gale, however, insisted that the expenditure was to be taken care of by the Indian government.

"Most of India's best sportspersons come from extremely poor backgrounds. As usual, (you) just stand on them and push their faces into the dirt again," he said.

"This is the ultimate case of Indian-bashing by government officials ... To improve, you have to play the best players in the world and that's Australia," he added.

The manager of the club which invited the Indians, Paul Girdler, said, "Four times they've changed their date. They were going to be here for a month, playing every day against the district zone, the state and even the Australian selection."

"They are a new lawn bowling country. India is an untapped area in the game," he explained.

Australia's bowls team was one of the eight nations that competed in a tournament in Delhi earlier this year and both Girdler and Gale felt the gesture should have been reciprocated Down Under.

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 13 Jun 2010 12:21

Australia is worse than 1930's Alabama.

It makes one wonder what Finch would make of today's Australia, in some ways markedly different from the repressive, race and class-ridden small-town Alabama of the 1930s, but in some ways not so different.

http://www.theadvocate.com.au/blogs/nat ... 56140.aspx

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 17 Jun 2010 07:33

India has impressed upon Australia to implement the changes in its migration policy "prospectively" and "not retrospectively" so that they do not have adverse impact on Indian students studying here.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/rssfeed/r ... 58689.aspx

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Speaking at the Australian India Business Council last week, Swan said that the rise of India among other emerging markets was continuing to shape G20 discussions. He said the G20 had seen the need for global growth with a focus on productivity.

http://www.moneymanagement.com.au/Artic ... 18790.aspx

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 18 Jun 2010 09:52

MELBOURNE (AFP) – A 15-year-old Australian boy was charged on Thursday with the stabbing murder of Indian student Nitin Garg, which followed a string of attacks on Indians and threatened to derail ties with New Delhi.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100617/wl ... 0617073028

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"Australia is a source and destination country for women subjected to trafficking in persons, specifically exploitation in forced prostitution, and, to a lesser extent, women and men in forced labour and children in commercial sexual exploitation," it said.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/nati ... public_rss

Duangkomon · Post by **Duangkomon** » 23 Jun 2010 21:58

Kevin Rudd, who was the most popular Australian PM an year ago has managed within two and a half years to be the first pm to get booted out by his party well before his first term. Quite a feat. The fall from grace for this mandarin speaker is spectacular.

Game over for Kevin Rudd

Gaurav_S · Post by **Gaurav_S** » 24 Jun 2010 04:37

IMO Labor is anyway set to loose coming election. Ruddy has lost public confidence drastically in recent months due to many mishaps and false promises including home insulation scheme, climate change to name a few. Would be interesting to see if Julia Gillard can do something to save labor government and win forthcoming elections. If liberal wins more chances for India to get uranium.

andy B · Post by **andy B** » 24 Jun 2010 05:24

Gaurav_S wrote:IMO Labor is anyway set to loose coming election. Ruddy has lost public confidence drastically in recent months due to many mishaps and false promises including home insulation scheme, climate change to name a few. Would be interesting to see if Julia Gillard can do something to save labor government and win forthcoming elections. If liberal wins more chances for India to get uranium.

Labour is well on its way out that seems to be the general consensus I commented on this in may...their latest policies have been in shambles...wouldnt expect much from Gillard IMVHO...the issue that the Liberals are going to face now is who do they nominate as their head and PM candidate? Abott wont cut it...Turnbull is gone who IMHO was more than a capable candidate and a self made man ex merchant banker but the way it seems to be coming out is that he lacked some key people skills....Costello is no where to be seen....wonder who else is going to fill that vaccum...?