Intelligence & National Security Discussion

Sudip · Post by **Sudip** » 06 Apr 2010 23:28

I expressed my opinion earlier too for the need to have an exclusive cyber security thread. I am sure there could be lots of interesting technical discussion by many BR gurus on this topic which might be off-topic for this thread and hence getting obfuscated. just my opinion i am nobody to say whats to be done and whats not.

ramana wrote:All, Link here:

Shadows in the Cloud: An Investigation into Cyber Espionage 2.0

Raveen · Post by **Raveen** » 06 Apr 2010 23:36

Here is a link for the more technical minded among us:

http://arstechnica.com/security/news/20 ... rnment.ars

Craig Alpert · Post by **Craig Alpert** » 07 Apr 2010 01:50

D-Company provided logistic support for 26/11: Report

Karachi-based D-Company of the fugitive Indian underworld don Dawood Ibrahim possibly had an important role in 26/11 carnage by providing logistic support to the LeT-operatives to carry out the deadly operation, adding a new dimension to the Mumbai terror attacks.

The involvement of the D-Company in the Mumbai attacks has come out in a report on Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) released by the Strategic Studies Institute of the US Army War College, the Department of Defence, which says that the D-Company is now closely tied with LeT activities in India.
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In exchange for his refuge in Pakistan, the report said a percentage of D-Company's profits were diverted to ISI-supported Islamic militant groups such as LeT.

"Evidence demonstrates that these links were formed in late 1993 or early 1994. Photographs of Tiger Memon posing with leaders of the Jammu and Kashmir Islamic Front (JKIF) at an ISI safe house in Muzaffarabad surfaced and served as the first proof of the involvement of mafia money in Kashmir," the
report said.
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LeT, which is estimated to be responsible for 60 per cent of terrorist killings in India, has been able to
establish cells in several parts of the world as a result of assistance received from elements within ISI and Dawood's network within India and in the Gulf," the report said.

"There have been arrests of LeT operatives all over the world, including seven arrests by the US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) during then Pakistan President Musharraf's June 2003 visit to the United States.

Even though the information was repressed in order to avoid embarrassing Musharraf, the operatives from Washington and Philadelphia were eventually charged with "stockpiling weapons and conspiring to wage jihad against India in support of terrorists in Kashmir," it said.
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Wonder who the IB and RAW were ranting to all this time?

nithish · Post by **nithish** » 07 Apr 2010 03:57

India was aware of hacking threat

Last week, Indian cyber security officials were in Toronto to meet the researchers from Munk School of Global Affairs whose year-long project, `Shadows in the Cloud', tracked cyber espionage attempts against computers and servers in some 31 countries, but overwhelmingly in India, including the national security and defence establishments. Other "entities of interest", according to the report, included private sector servers like The Times of India.

Over the past few months, after the first reports of a China-based network of cyber spies emerged, Indian officials in key departments have been on a silent overdrive to stop the attacks and monitor servers.

To this extent, sources told TOI they had even placed "ploys" on different servers that were being targeted, as bait to entice cyber warriors to track them to their source.

Sachin Pilot, minister of state for IT and telecommunications, said, "We need to be extra vigilant about cyber terrorism, because this can inflict attacks of an assymetric nature, and is therefore that much more dangerous." Pilot has been tracking cyber espionage and has even been in touch with the Canadian researchers. He observed that government systems had not been compromised.

Cert-IN, the official emergency response unit of the government, has suggested counter-measures to guard against such espionage. Pilot said new products were getting introduced regularly and software not tested properly contained zero-day vulnerabilities.

In fact, Indian agencies have been on alert for some time now, and their preventive actions have been reasonably successful. The national security establishment, defence and intelligence agencies follow a complex, multi-layered system to avoid access to their information. Officials said the really classified stuff was not on open networks at all.

However, other parts of the government, for instance, the finance ministry, have been compromised according to sources familiar with developments, because their security may be that much more lax.

A quiet effort is underway to set up defensive mechanisms, but cyber warfare is yet to become a big component of India's security doctrine. Dedicated teams of officials, all underpaid of course, are involved in a daily deflection of attacks. But the real gap in the Indian system is that a retaliatory offensive system has not yet been created to counter them. And it's not difficult, said sources. Chinese networks are very porous, and India is an acknowledged IT giant.

During M K Narayanan's tenure as national security advisor, the NSC had developed a comprehensive cyber security policy, but this was never implemented.

Rajput · Post by **Rajput** » 07 Apr 2010 12:36

ramana wrote:Shadows in the Cloud: An Investigation into Cyber Espionage 2.0

I can only shake my head and laugh at the "IT Superpower", which can't even protect its basic assets.

All one has to do is sprinkle some USB flash drives (with viruses) around North and South Blocks, and presto! Immediate access to the internal networks of all major ministries.

Unless penetrations like these are treated at par with giving secrets to the enemy, nothing will happen.

Prabu · Post by **Prabu** » 07 Apr 2010 15:56

[quote=]India was aware of hacking threat

During M K Narayanan's tenure as national security advisor, the NSC had developed a comprehensive cyber security policy, but this was never implemented. [/quote][/quote]

=>> Here lies the problem ! We never implement any thing till the last line

=>> Also Kargil comitee report by Mr.Subramaniam

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 07 Apr 2010 19:20

NTRO is going under an audit by CAG, probably due to the above mess.

sunny y · Post by **sunny y** » 07 Apr 2010 22:00

Indian-American techie faces trial for espionage

http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/apr/ ... -china.htm

India-born Noshir Gowadia, a former engineer of B-2 stealth bomber accused of selling sensitive American defence technology to China for its cruise missiles for $110,000, will face trial in a US court this week for spying and money-laundering.

Gowadia a former engineer with defence contractor Northrup Corp., is facing charges that he sold classified B-2 bomber technology to China, tried to sell the technology to Switzerland , Israel and Germany , money laundering and filing false tax returns.

Damn, even the Swiss are locking their horns with uncle. I wonder what Indian spies were doing.

Prosecutors allege Gowadia helped design an exhaust nozzle for China that gives off less heat, making it difficult for enemy infrared detectors to track the missile for which he got $110,000 over two years.

Between 2003 and 2005 Gowadia made six secret trips into mainland China and exchanged numerous communications to help Chinese defence engineers design a cruise missile that is able to evade air-to-air, heat-seeking missiles, according the federal indictment against him.

amdavadi · Post by **amdavadi** » 07 Apr 2010 22:04

I say hang him.

uncle better send him to utha

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 07 Apr 2010 23:28

amdavadi wrote:I say hang him. uncle better send him to utha

He could be working for Uncle to get how Chinese do their design

Venu · Post by **Venu** » 07 Apr 2010 23:30

sunny y wrote:Indian-American techie faces trial for espionage

http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/apr/ ... -china.htm

How low our men has gone to!

Chinese are spying for china and an Indian also spying for china

Do we need any other enemies?

negi · Post by **negi** » 07 Apr 2010 23:38

^ He is not an Indian citizen , he has been an American citizen for quite some time now .

Sudip · Post by **Sudip** » 07 Apr 2010 23:59

that is no justification. i am sure being an american citizen, he still knows against whom those designs would be used by the chinese. next rumour is gonna be that an indian origin engineer sold secrets to pukiland??!!

negi wrote:^ He is not an Indian citizen , he has been an American citizen for quite some time now .

Carl_T · Post by **Carl_T** » 08 Apr 2010 00:02

~deleted~
n/m read his statement wrong.

Venu · Post by **Venu** » 08 Apr 2010 07:25

^ We would say that atleast he remember his roots and cares for it

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 09 Apr 2010 08:27

Jihadist warnings from Moscow
Praveen Swami

http://www.hindu.com/2010/04/09/stories ... 451200.htm

Prabu · Post by **Prabu** » 11 Apr 2010 17:27

I am sure thousands of volunteers will emerge,

if asked, even in our own forum for this job! atleast this is what I have asked for, recently !

Why can't India have its own 'patriotic hackers'?

sum · Post by **sum** » 12 Apr 2010 09:21

Given the recent ridiculous orders against RAW by CAT, civil courts etc ( officials can no longer remain anonymous, maintain cover identities etc), a decent order by the hon. court this time around :
Espionage: HC quashes CIC order on spying software

In a blow to an indicted former R&AW official seeking detail of the agency's snooping software, the Delhi High Court has set aside the CIC’s directive to the Centre for Development of Advanced Computing (C-DAC) to disclose information, which he claimed was necessary to prove his innocence in the espionage case.

Asking the CIC to hear the matter afresh, Justice S Muralidhar held the Commission erred in passing the order without hearing R&AW contentions, being the third party for which the C-DAC developed the software under a contract.

“In as much as the software of the ‘Project Anveshak’ has been developed exclusively for the R&AW, the question of disclosure of any such information had to be decided only after hearing the R&AW,” the court noted further, observing that the intelligence agency figured among the list of the organisations usually exempted under the purview of the RTI Act.

Last May, the CIC had allowed the RTI plea of former Director (Computers) R&AW, Brig Ujjal Dasgupta (retd), asking the C-DAC to provide him information relating to the development of software ‘Anveshak’ for R&AW. Lodged in Tihar Jail following his arrest in 2006 on charges of passing on classified information to American diplomat Rosanna Minchew, Dasgupta had sought details about the way the software was transferred to R&AW, the agency responsible for installation on the premises of RAW and other such details. He contended the information would help him defending himself in a court of law.

The C-DAC, however, sought the immunity of exemption clause of the RTI Act and said the Cabinet Secretariat had also communicated to it that disclosure of any information in relation to Project Anveshak would be against national interest and the security of the state.

But, in a judgment last May, Information Commissioner Annapurna Dixit failed to find favour with the C-DAC’s arguments and said C-DAC, being a public authority in custody of information, “which is completely unrelated with the confidential, sensitive data relating to operational methodology as referred by R&AW”, was under an obligation to divulge it.

Adjudicating the appeal by C-DAC, Justice Muralidhar differed from the views of the CIC and noted that when the information pertained to a “third party” under the Act, it was not a right procedure to decide an application without eliciting response from the affected party. “Once the CIC acknowledges that the information sought pertains to a third party, in this case, R&AW, then without notice to such third party and hearing its views in the matter, the CIC cannot proceed further in the matter,” said the court.

The CIC has now been asked to dispose of the matter within four months after issuing notice to R&AW, hearing their contentions. It will also have to take into account whether R&AW was completely exempt from the purview of the RTI Act in the present case.

Sudip · Post by **Sudip** » 13 Apr 2010 00:29

Prabu wrote:I am sure thousands of volunteers will emerge, if asked, even in our own forum for this job! atleast this is what I have asked for, recently !

Why can't India have its own 'patriotic hackers'?

India is an IT super power alright, but quality needs to be improved over quantity too.

Indian outsourcers emphasize cosmetic security measures, Forrester warns

Many Indian companies have bolstered their security controls and business continuity measures in recent years, Forrester said in a report. But the lack of executive support for security efforts, an over-reliance on technology controls and inadequate training and awareness undermine the effectiveness of such measures.

ASPuar · Post by **ASPuar** » 13 Apr 2010 00:52

In the mean time, it may interest you to know, that the Army is NOT one of the organisations exempted under National Security clauses under RTI. But, the BSF, CRPF, etc, are!

shukla · Post by **shukla** » 13 Apr 2010 11:18

Only Home Ministry will speak on internal security matters: Centre

In a letter written to all ministers and secretaries, Cabinet Secretary K M Chandrashekhar has said that only Home Ministry will speak on matters related to internal security. The latest step of the Government is believed to have come in the wake of views expressed by the Army and the Indian Air Force (IAF) Chiefs on the use of military in the ongoing anti-Naxal operations.

Some of the Union Ministers also publicly expressed their views about the to use of military in Naxal operation. A day after the Dantewada incident, Union Home Minister P Chidambaram hinted on possible involvement of IAF in the anti-Naxal operations, while Air Chief Marshal P V Naik expressed views against using air power. On the same line, Army Chief General V K Singh had said there were some internal deficiencies in the way the Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) carried out the Dantewada operation.

While Chidambaram refuted these remarks in a veiled manner, the Home Ministry had to come out with a clarifying statement highlighting the training imparted to the CRPF personnel involved in the Dantewada operation.

kulhari · Post by **kulhari** » 13 Apr 2010 23:15

http://news.rediff.com/interview/2010/a ... dition.htm

Quite interesting and fair analysis by A S Dulat.

mmasand · Post by **mmasand** » 14 Apr 2010 21:15

Food for thought..

Our installations need security, not dumb security

the comments are interesting...all of which have happened with us in the past..

Ameet · Post by **Ameet** » 15 Apr 2010 00:19

India-Pakistan 1963 talks: CIC to see if files must stay secret

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_in ... et_1371114

The Central Information Commission (CIC) will "revisit" the material regarding talks between the foreign ministers of India and Pakistan in 1963 to decide if it can be revealed under the Right to Information (RTI) Act.

The decision came on an application filed by veteran journalist Kuldip Nayar who had sought information from the external affairs ministry about the talks between the then foreign ministers of India and Pakistan — Swaran Singh and Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto — in the wake of the India-China war in October 1962.

Nayar approached the CIC after the MEA denied the information, stating that it is in "top secret" files and cannot be revealed.

During the hearing on March 17, Nayar contended that when he sought the same information from the authorities in Pakistan, he had been denied it simply because of the absence of any such agreement between India and Pakistan to disclose the information to an Indian national and only a Pakistani national could have access to the information.

Nayar wondered that when Pakistani authorities "had no objection to parting with the information, which contained Pakistan’s viewpoint", why the same information was treated as top secret here.

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 16 Apr 2010 02:10

Again, Money hai to honey hai

Honey trap, The Telegraph, April 15, 2010

New Delhi, April 14: Naval headquarters is investigating if a honey trap sprung on a senior officer compromised it during hard-bargaining with Russia for aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov.

The officer, a commodore, was posted in Severodvinsk as the warship production superintendent from 2005 to 2008. It was his responsibility to oversee the refit of the carrier.

A CD of photographs delivered to naval headquarters shows the officer in intimate contact with a woman, probably Russian, at the time of his overseas posting. This has led to suspicions that the officer was blackmailed into making recommendations that forced India to accept the Russian demand for a huge hike in the carrier’s price.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 16 Apr 2010 19:32

Kati wrote:Again, Money hai to honey hai

Honey trap, The Telegraph, April 15, 2010

New Delhi, April 14: Naval headquarters is investigating if a honey trap sprung on a senior officer compromised it during hard-bargaining with Russia for aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov.

The officer, a commodore, was posted in Severodvinsk as the warship production superintendent from 2005 to 2008. It was his responsibility to oversee the refit of the carrier.

A CD of photographs delivered to naval headquarters shows the officer in intimate contact with a woman, probably Russian, at the time of his overseas posting. This has led to suspicions that the officer was blackmailed into making recommendations that forced India to accept the Russian demand for a huge hike in the carrier’s price.

Kati sir,

anyway i can get in touch with you, need to ask you some bangla stuff

Murali

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 17 Apr 2010 19:10

animesharma wrote:
Venkarl wrote: "ASPuar"
Ad in todays paper for vacancies for "Research Officer" in R&AW. Theyre wanted for technical cadres though. Anyone with an engineering degree/physics degree/MCA/Bsc Comp Science can apply.

What kind of preparation would help to take on this? civils services preps ? or any domain specific like computers etc??

Thanks in advance
I believe their stress will be more on individual ability and general knowledge (along with technical skills).. similar was the case with the recent IB grade 2 vacancy...
bad for me, am not eligible now!

nope...it may be computers and electronics/chemistry for written test...the individual ability part may be during interview

mmasand · Post by **mmasand** » 17 Apr 2010 22:04

MHA had recently put an advert for IB Security Assistan(Executive) <-- whatever that means! Most of the positions were based in smaller towns and cities,no metros,but surprisingly they had en enormous quota for OBC/SC?ST and it really made me wonder what info could ppl struggling to make ends meet gather intel?

Craig Alpert · Post by **Craig Alpert** » 17 Apr 2010 22:55

Terrorists may be planning attacks in India: US advisory

WASHINGTON: Terrorist groups may be planning attacks in India, the US has warned in its latest advisory and asked its nationals to exercise caution during their stay in the country.

Alerting US citizens, the Department of State said: "The US government continues to receive information that terrorist groups may be planning attacks in India."

The February 2010 bombing in Pune and the November 2008 attacks in Mumbai provide a vivid reminder that hotels, markets, trains and other public places in India are especially attractive targets for terrorist groups, it said in the advisory.

"Terrorists and their sympathisers have demonstrated their willingness and capability to attack targets where US citizens or Westerners are known to congregate or visit," the State Department said.

The latest advisory replaces the Travel Alert dating January 29 and will expire on May 30.

This after 2 minor IED exploded right before the start of IPL Banglore vs MI (15 injured, no deaths, games went on after an hour delay)
ADDED LATER: 3RD BOMB DEFUSED

Craig Alpert · Post by **Craig Alpert** » 18 Apr 2010 03:56

Minor blasts in Bangalore a wake-up call ahead of CWG?

NEW DELHI: The authorities may have refrained from calling minor blasts in Bangalore a terror act, but the incident can well be a wake-up call ahead of the Delhi Commonwealth Games as it exposed chinks in the armour of the security agencies.

The low-intensity explosions were set off by devices with timers, pointing to an expertise that can be used to engineer mayhem on a bigger scale. In fact, in crowded settings, even low-intensity blasts can exact a disproportionate toll by triggering panic leading to stampede

That the packets carrying explosives went undetected in an area which is supposed to be thoroughly scanned, considering the known plan of terrorists to target Bangalore and sports venues across the country, has distressed the authorities.

The government is apprehensive of terrorists carrying out spectacular strikes and mass murder ahead of and during Commonwealth Games, in keeping with their plan to render India an "unsafe destination" just like Pakistan.

The failure of Bangalore police to keep its vigil when it had to guard just one venue should naturally deepen worries about a situation such as the Commonwealth Games when events would be going on at different stadia across the Capital.

"How can police ignore such sanitization exercise, given the fact that the IPL matches have always been on terror radar? It seems no one had even been monitoring the CCTVs' panel. Had police been alert, they could have detected the packets carrying explosive the moment it was planted there", said a senior home ministry official.

Officials here feel that since Bangalore has been on terror radar for long, such lapse could well be avoided keeping constant intelligence inputs in mind.

Union home ministry, which has been in touch with the state police over the investigation and forensic analysis of the explosives, preferred not to comment over the incident at this point.

VERY VERY disturbing news.. This is truly something all Intelligence and Forensics experts should be looking into, because if they succeeded here, chances are THEY WILL try it again during the CW games and we DO NOT want to be in that situation

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 19 Apr 2010 02:46

^^^^^^

Muraliji,
you can reach this mortal soul at "prthr762 at gmail dot com"

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 19 Apr 2010 07:02

Stadium attacks herald new Indian Mujahideen offensive

Praveen Swami

http://www.hindu.com/2010/04/19/stories ... 120100.htm

sum · Post by **sum** » 19 Apr 2010 08:50

Another article on IM:
The rebirth of the Indian Mujahideen -- P.Swami

Less than an hour before police surrounded the Indian Mujahideen bomb-factory hidden away on the fringes of the Bhadra forests in Chikmagalur, Mohammad Zarar Siddi Bawa had slipped away on a bus bound for Mangalore — the first step in a journey that would take him to the safety of a Lashkar-e-Taiba safehouse in Karachi.

Inside the house, officers involved in the October, 2008, raid found evidence of Bawa's work: laboratory equipment used to test and prepare chemicals, precision tools, and five complete improvised explosive devices. Even as investigators across India set about filing paperwork declaring Bawa a fugitive, few believed they would ever be able to lay eyes on him again.

But in February, a closed-circuit television camera placed over the cashier's counter at the Germany Bakery in Pune recorded evidence that Bawa had returned to India — just minutes before an improvised explosive device ripped through the popular restaurant killing seventeen people, and injuring at least sixty.

Dressed in a loose-fitting blue shirt, a rucksack slung over his back, the fair, slight young man with a wispy beard has been identified by police sources in Gujarat, Maharashtra and Karnataka as “Yasin Bhatkal” — the man who made the bombs which ripped apart ten Indian towns and cities between 2005 and 2008. Witnesses at the restaurant also identified Bawa from photographs, noting that he was wearing trousers rolled up above his ankles — a style favoured by some neo-fundamentalists.

Bawa is emerging as the key suspect in Saturday's bombings outside the M. Chinnaswamy Stadium in Bangalore — a grim reminder that the jihadist offensive that began after the 2002 communal violence in India is very far from spent.

The Shahbandari brothers' parents, like many members of the Bhatkal elite, had relocated to Mumbai in search of new economic opportunities. Ismail Shahbandri, their father, set up leather-tanning factory in Mumbai's Kurla area in the mid-1970s. Riyaz Shahbandri went on to obtain a civil engineering degree from Mumbai's Saboo Siddiqui Engineering College and, in 2002, was married to Nasuha Ismail, the daughter of an electronics store owner in Bhatkal's Dubai Market.

Shafiq Ahmad, Nasuha's brother, had drawn Riyaz Shahbandri into the Students Islamic Movement of India. He first met his Indian Mujahideen co-founders Abdul Subhan Qureshi and Sadiq Israr Sheikh, in the months before his marriage. Later, Riyaz Shahbandri made contact with ganglord-turned-jihadist Amir Raza Khan. In the wake of the communal violence that ripped Gujarat apart in 2002, the men set about funnelling recruits to Lashkar camps in Pakistan.

Early in the summer of 2004, investigators say, the core members of the network that was later to call itself the Indian Mujahideen met at Bhatkal's beachfront to discuss their plans. Iqbal Shahbandri and Bhatkal-based cleric Shabbir Gangoli are alleged to have held ideological classes; the group also took time out to practice shooting with airguns. Bawa had overall charge of arrangements — a task that illustrated his status as the Bhatkal brothers' most trusted lieutenant.

Bhatkal, police investigators say, became the centre of the Indian Mujahideen's operations. From their safehouses in Vitthalamakki and Hakkalamane, bombs were despatched to operational cells dispersed across the country, feeding the most sustained jihadist offensive India has ever seen.

Early in 1993, Bhatkal was hit by communal riots which claimed seventeen lives and left dozens injured. The violence, which began after Hindutva groups claimed stones had been thrown at a Ram Navami procession, and lasted nine months. Later, in April 1996, two Muslims were murdered in retaliation for the assassination of Bharatiya Janata Party legislator U. Chittaranjan — a crime that investigators now say may have been linked to the Bhatkal brothers. More violence broke out in 2004, after the assassination of BJP leader Thimmappa Naik.

Iqbal Shahbandri and his recruits were, in key senses, rebels against a traditional political order that appeared to have failed to defend Muslim rights and interests. Inside the Indian Mujahideen safehouses raided in October, 2008, police found no evidence that traditional theological literature or the writings of the Tablighi Jamaat had influenced the group. Instead, they found pro-Taliban videos and speeches by Zakir Naik — a popular but controversial Mumbai-based televangelist who has, among other things, defends Al-Qaeda chief Osama bin-Laden.

“If he is fighting the enemies of Islam”, Naik said in one speech, “I am for him. If he is terrorising America the terrorist—the biggest terrorist — I am with him.” “Every Muslim” Naik concluded, “should be a terrorist. The thing is, if he is terrorising a terrorist, he is following Islam”. Naik has never been found to be involved in violence, but his words have fired the imagination of a diverse jihadists — among them, Glasgow suicide-bomber Kafeel Ahmed, 2006 Mumbai train-bombing accused Feroze Deshmukh, and New York taxi driver Najibullah Zazi, who faces trial for planning to attack the city's Grand Central Railway Station.

Language like this spoke to concerns of the young people who were drawn to separate jihadist cells that began to spring up across India after the 2002 violence, mirroring the growth of the Indian Mujahideen. SIMI leader Safdar Nagori set up a group that included the Bangalore information-technology professionals Peedical Abdul Shibli and Yahya Kamakutty; in Kerala Tadiyantavide Nasir, Abdul Sattar, and Abdul Jabbar set up a separate organisation that is alleged to have bombed Bangalore in 2008

The more i read Swami's articles, the more i feel he is a apologist for these jihadis. The man seems to find a motivation behind every pig's action. The motive is always the big, bad hindu who didnt allow the IMs in that area to do whatever they wanted.

In this article, he himself states that the Bhatkal region IMs have murdered 3-4 MLAs and are very rich and yet, he pins the blame on the SDREs of that region who had retaliated only once in all these years ( that too was because stones were thrown on a Ram Navami procession many years back). So, by that logic, the poor, neglected SDREs of that region should take up arms against the rich, prosperous muslims because even Hindus were also killed in the riots ( that was his justification for the Azamgrah operatives who were supposedly neglected and surrounded by prosperous Hindus)?

Craig Alpert · Post by **Craig Alpert** » 20 Apr 2010 04:41

Baba O'bummer's AF-PAK policy is more of a FAK-AP policy.. Hail BUSH!

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 20 Apr 2010 05:36

Nightmare 2012: Chinese Special Forces cut off Siliguri corridor

THE STRATEGY
By 2012, to unravel India, Beijing is likely to para-drop a division of its Special Forces inside the Siliguri Corridor to sever the Northeast.

There will be simultaneous attacks in other parts of the border and linkup with the Special Forces holding the Siliguri Corridor will be effected. All these will take place under the nuclear overhang.

In concert, Islamabad will activate the second front to unhook Kashmir by making offensive moves across the IB in the plains and the desert to divide Indian reaction capability. Meanwhile the fifth columnists supporting these external forces will unleash mayhem inside.

Two key question for New Delhi:
1. Will India go nuclear if its territorial integrity is threatened? France’s stated policy is that it will use the nuclear option, if Germany is attacked. Germany is not likely to face a nuclear adversary, yet France will use nuclear option if it is attacked. India faces threat from two nuclear powers in its vicinity. Will India shift its stated position of second strike to first strike, if the territorial integrity of the Union is under threat?

2. Will New Delhi have the gumption to order the Navy to retaliate and stop the flow of cargo in the Indian Ocean being freighted to China? Or will it order the Air Force to conduct offensive and decisive strategic strikes inside Tibet?

New Delhi requires to develop offensive orientation in its thinking for the answers to be in affirmative. India has produced more than its share of great thinkers in civil affairs.
However, being a pacifist society, it does not boast of a single military thinker of repute.

Therefore, we should not hesitate to import knowledge from the best military thinkers to create an assertive society, just as we need to import the best defence technologies to set up the most modern defence industry hub that ensures expansion of democratic space in Asia.

The ideal opportunity for China to dismember India is between 2011 and 2014 on multiple counts.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 20 Apr 2010 22:03

Pawar Links

Not a reliable source , nevertheless interesting

Dr. Jai Maharaj

The so called "uncle" has been identified as one of Dawood Ibrahim's Mumbai underworld activist who planted bombs at several locations in 1993. INTERESTINGLY, SHARAD PAWAR AS THE CM OF MAHARSHTRA, PROVIDED THEM LOGISTICS INCLUDING THE FLIGHT TO DUBAI AND THOS E WHO FLED INCLUDED MANY OF DAWOOD'S FAMILY MEBERS, TIGER MEMON AND HIS GROUP
AND MANY LIKE THIS "UNCLE" A PLANE LOAD.

... During the 1993 Bombay blasts, the Chief Minister of Maharashtra Sharad Pawar of Congress, provided the airplane to transport Dawood Ibrahim's relatives and friends to safety. Salman Khursheed, of
congress was the Central Minister of State for External Affairs during the same blasts. Romesh Sharma, of congress was the right hand man of Dawood Ibrahim and made the arrangements to acquire the
passport for Dawood's mother in 24 hours. Babloo Srivastava, general secretary of congress youth organization was Dawood's pointsman and Babloo was accused in 45 cases of murder, extortion,
rioting and possession of illegal arms. In over 95% of the instances where Indian politicians have colluded with the Mafia linked to Dawood Ibrahim, the links can be traced back directly to the Congress.

Sharma was especially close to Laloo Prasad Yadav, a fact which is evidenced by CBI records of Yadav's office booking rooms for Sharma's stay at Maurya Hotel on three occasions in 1997-98. Yadav also used to be a regular at parties organized by Sharma at his Jai Mata farmhouse in Satbari in Mehrauli. ...

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 21 Apr 2010 16:23

Bomb attack bears al-Qaeda's signature

In an exclusive message to Asia Times Online in February, Kashmiri warned of attacks in India. "We warn the international community not to send their people to the 2010 Hockey World Cup, IPL and Commonwealth Games [to be held in Delhi in October]. Nor should their people visit India - if they do, they will be responsible for the consequences." [1]

Vivek Raghuvanshi · Post by **Vivek Raghuvanshi** » 21 Apr 2010 18:10

Check out my "Threat Perception on Commonwealth Games 2010"

http://corporaterisks.info/blog/?p=289

Let us understand Intelligence

Intelligence has a Intelligence Cycle:

1. Planning
2. Collection
3. Analysis
4. Dissemination

Intelligence Collection is done:
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1. Passive Intelligence
2. Semi Active Intelligence
3. Active Intelligence

Passive Intelligence uses OSINT
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OSINT monitors emissions from primary and secondary sources such as newspapers, sectoral expert reports, Google News etc

Semi Active Intelligence uses Email and Telephone calls to elicit Information
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Active Intelligence uses Human Intelligence
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HUMINT has a lethal tool called MICE

MICE = Money, Ideology, Compromise, Ego

In the end it is NOT about Information Collection or Analysis BUT it is about converting raw data into information and Information into Actionable Intelligence

To convert data into Information into Actionable Intelligence requires NOT Artifical Intelligence but a special breed of men and women who can War Game and undertake Scenario Planning and GENERATE EARLY WARNING TO MITIGATE RISKS

Jai Hind

Vivek Raghuvanshi · Post by **Vivek Raghuvanshi** » 21 Apr 2010 18:46

Now the ISSUE is:

Who is ideally fit to work in Intelligence?

Just because one is a bureaucrat or IPS or Military?

No.

Either you are born for Intelligence, and you are passionate about Intelligence.

It is Not how you collect Intelligence ie Collection stage: using New Emerging Technology / Human Intelligence

It is the selecting the right BREED of men and women who can see the MICRO Picture on one hand and MACRO Picture on the other.

Rather than blaming RAW / IB / ORCHID / 22 / LIU etc.

The NEED of the hour is train them to become competent.

Collection of Information, any tom, dick and harry can do.

It is who can collate and synthesize Information that matters.

Then you require men and women who can indulge in "Role Playing" ie War Gaming

Then you require a special breed of men and women who can undertake Scenario Planning.

Theoretically it looks very easy, but in real life do we have men and women whose brain is more powerful than stupid Artificial Intelligence toys.

Artificial Intelligence toys are good ONLY for Collection.

Out of the thousands of Terra bytes of new emerging data, do we have a special breed of men and women who are passionate about "Making the Difference"

Data has to be Extracted.

Extracted Data has to be converted into Information

Information has to be Analyzed

Analyzed Information has to go through War Games

War games have to give input for Scenario Planning

Scenario Planning has to generate Probability x Impact Analysis

Based on the above, you need to MITIGATE RISKS and generate Early Warning

Now rather than criticizing each other or blaming ISI of Pakistan or 2nd Bureau of China on petty issue of HUMAN Intelligence, who is sleeping with who or who is cultivating who?

This means Nothing.

Do we have a special breed of men and women who can "Join the Dots" and see the larger picture?

Jai Hind

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 22 Apr 2010 00:09

NTRO had already received results of the Canadian report on Ghostnet in Feb. The NTRO has got heavy criticism for not stopping the attacks in the report. I said earlier they are under CAG audit. Chin intel are watching closely.