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High time to highlight the Senseless Behavior of GOI- Home Minister Are you listening?

Save us from this hell, beg CRPF jawans
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David Siegel wrote:As I walked out of the entrance, a jawan posted there caught my eye. “Madam,” he said, in a barely audible voice, “Save us from this hell.”
Dont think this force is in the right frame of mind required for the mission. Imagine if an Army jawan were to say these words .... rather I cant even imagine it.
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David, welcome to BR !

Just the link is enough , no need to post in full.

Very sorry state of affairs, indeed ! Do you hear these jawans, Mr.Home minister ?
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Aditya G wrote:...

Dont think this force is in the right frame of mind required for the mission. Imagine if an Army jawan were to say these words .... rather I cant even imagine it.
Well, IMHO 'right frame of mind' is controlled by Moral of the force. It is really nasty to realize that when our ministers are taking call on the ongoing operations sitting in A/C rooms, our brave Jawan's are so ill-equiped and mistreated that they are finding no reason to fight !! This is really a very sorry state of domestic counter-insurgent operations. And funniest thing is we don't find any more of such articles on Media which is otherwise busy covering Shoaib-Sania-Ayesha triangle or basing DRDO whenever they step into covering any defense related article.
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This battallion has only been in situation for 10 days. The article mentions that they arrived on April 6. It is surprising that they are already in such a terrible state. I think the Home Minister should enquire, but ask the right questions. Why, in just ten days, is the Bn reduced to such misery? Is it the intrinsic situation, or just the fact that they really dont want to be there at all, and would prefer a softer posting, and so, are trying a bit of lobbying with the media? Of course, it could just be a bit of media exaggeration, to get the spiciest story possible.

A force where jawans in an ops area, will speak in contravention of their officers orders, and defying them, is either a force on the verge of collapse, or on the verge of mutiny. In either case, an unhealthy trend, and I would follow the future dispositions of the CRPF with interest.

The morale of a force in operations or otherwise, is controlled by the quality of its leadership. The Army had such bad posts in siachen and the Arunachal heights, that the External affairs ministry team that went there was horrified, and wrote a strong note to govt (note that MoD teams were content with sitting in delhi and saying nothing more could be sanctioned because enough had been done for the troops).

Still, you will not hear army jawans or officers who have been years in the mountains, crying that they are in hell. Because they know that their officers share the same privations, and that they will always look out for them. And because of iron discipline, which is the guiding light of the soldier.

Contrast this with the plummeting morale of the so called commando CRPF bn, which has been there only since April 6, and already they are reduced to such a state of desperation that journalists are being begged to save them, within less than 2 weeks.

The problem with the CPOs (some of them) is weak internal leadership, lack of discipline, compunded by a top rung which is not controlled by the CPOs own cadre officers. When the boss (DIG/IGP/DGP) is an IPS officer without knowledge of the particularities of the force, or training in militarized operations, then of course the needs of the men will be forgotten, wrong decisions taken, leadership will be demotivated, and morale will be low. (The DIGP who ordered the Dantewada recce was an IPS officer, only a week into the job at hand).

Relatively speaking, the ITBP and BSF do better in terms of morale than the CRPF, in part because they are true paramilitary orgs, rather than Central Police Orgs, and in the past, their bns were officered by ex army personnel, so their org ethos is closer to that of the army.

Morale is not something that magically appears. It must be built up. The CRPF has much to learn in terms of maintaining morale, and operating tempo. It should not hesitate to take the Armys guidance in carrying out ops in Chattisgarh.

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It is the usual masala reporting and exaggeration by the DDM.
Although morale of CRPF is low, it is not as bad as DDM tells it is.
CRPF has fought innumerable battles and killed lots of Pigs in Kashmir, North east and elsewhere. They will come back with a vengeance.
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Sandeep Unnithan had done a piece in India Today. He had said what most people are reluctant to say - the massacre is also due to the weak leadership on the ground on that day - At the company and deputy company commander level.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/Story ... e+war.html (Caution - disturbing photo in the link)
An 81-member company of the CRPFwas ambushed by Maoists while returning from a two-day patrol on April 6. A Mine Protected Vehicle and a mobile bunker were destroyed and 76 personnel killed by gunfire and IEDs.

1. STRATEGY
Reclaim and hold operations were too sparse and not backed by development programmes. Few CRPF personnel to tackle Maoists.

2. INTELLIGENCE
Little ground intelligence. The company was unaware of being surrounded. It camped in a village and entered and left from the same route.
3. LEADERSHIP
No recce, taking too large a group and exposing troops. A good commander would have rallied men and returned fire.

4. TACTICS
Cardinal rule of counter-insurgency, to stay away from the roads and adopt different entry and exits, not followed.
5. COMMUNICATION
Counter-ambush drills were not followed. The second company which was nearby unable to come to the rescue of the besieged 'A' company.

6. EQUIPMENT
Did not have adequate indirect fire weapons like mortars which can lay heavy fire on ambushing forces.
THe naxals used Grenades and Molotov Cocktails - that seemed to have had some shock value as well.

If the patrol had from the start operated with the mind set that they were operating behind enemy lines - would they have exposed themslves so badly? If you have to stick to a road, then having a paranoid mind and expecting an ambush at every corner and hillock is not a bad thing. You would have been better prepared.

Outlook has a photo of a wounded jawan with an arrow stuck in him.
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Aditya G wrote:
David Siegel wrote:As I walked out of the entrance, a jawan posted there caught my eye. “Madam,” he said, in a barely audible voice, “Save us from this hell.”
Dont think this force is in the right frame of mind required for the mission. Imagine if an Army jawan were to say these words .... rather I cant even imagine it.
Second that. I only guess at their living conditions from the pictures but I can say with absolutely certainty that the IA's jawans have been in much much worse conditions without morale in the unit flagging.

What it really comes down to is esprit de corps. From the moment they're recruited the army's jawans(and officers) are drilled with a certain ethos; the paltan and country's honour always comes first. Another problem is that the CRPF aren't combating an enemy who is a foreign invader and that idea can grate on the men's morale.

That said, give them time. The Maoists were kicked out of AP without the army interceding. They'll lose here too without military intervention.
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Jagan wrote:
"We were being slowly killed by our own people"-- the destruction of the CRPF's A company in Dantewada.Share
Today at 06:57
an exclusive account of the final moments of the CRPF’s A and G companies which were wiped out by Maoists in Dantewada on April 6, 2010. Based on detailed interviews of three of the seven survivors currently in a hospital in Raipur.
From the accounts of the survivors, it becomes even more certain that they are seeing the same tactics as what other commie guerillas used especially the VC. Small US units in Vietnam would get wiped out in the same way when VC perched on trees would rake them with automatic fire. But now IA has cross-training relationships with the same people in Vietnam who fought using these tactics so I am pretty sure IA has incorporated them in its training doctrine at CIJWS. Its fine that IA doesnt participate in the fighting but it would be foolish not to involve them in an advisory and training capacity with IA personnel put on deputation.

And recce UAVs with well equipped surveillance sensor suites and high endurance/loiter times is a definite requirement. They need to accompany columns in the same way UAVs and aerial surveillance accompany US columns. If one remembers it was only the aerial surveillance and armed choppers guided in by them which saved the US SF troops in Mogadishu, otherwise they and their rescue column would have been wiped out just like this CRPF coy.

@ASPuar: I dont think the jawans complaining of losing the will to fight belonged to the COBRA battalion - at least from the article, it doesn't seem to be the case.
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Raja Bose wrote: @ASPuar: I dont think the jawans complaining of losing the will to fight belonged to the COBRA battalion - at least from the article, it doesn't seem to be the case.
Its by a female journalist. At the risk of sounding sexist, the COBRA battalion claim needs to taken with a pinch of salt.
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I dont think the jawans complaining of losing the will to fight belonged to the COBRA battalion - at least from the article, it doesn't seem to be the case.
Even I think the same...COBRA guys were the one who initially spoke to the journalist in english.
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Can someone tell me how to 'set up' an LMG on top of a tree??????? The LMGs (there were two) were placed on top of small hillocks and poured down an inter-locking arc of fire on the CRPF jawans. Even if someone gets up a tree and blazes away Rambo style (hilarious), he can't see much because of the foliage. And why is the CRPF cribbing about snakes, lack of drinking water and toilets? Do they expect every comfort in a war zone? What else would they expect in a jungle but snakes and dirty water? At least they have a tubewell, they don't have to dig a well for themselves like the army has to.
Even the humpty dumpty US army is getting rid of its McDonalds and pizza joints and air-conditioned tents in Afghanistan and Iraq.
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exactly the impression I'm getting, they are completely unfit and incompetent for the job, mentally and physically. even NCC cadets spend time in camps without electricity and running water amidst insects and snakes. and those are school kids.
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The level of indisciplined speech and discontentment at being posted in this area, so soon after arrival in situ, as evidenced by the article, is disturbing. The impression Im getting from this article is that apparently the CRPF has no conception of what a hard posting actually is, and anything away from routine lathi-wielding-at-unarmed-public and standing-by-roadside-in-Delhi-and-keeping-mantrijis-road-free-of-traffic duties, seems to be too much of a strain for these fellows.

@Raja Bose & VivS:

The article states the following:
My tour of the camp done, I was invited to have tea with men from the Combat Battalion for Resolute Action (COBRA) force of the CRPF. In crisp English, they told me they had been airdropped on April 6 to counter the Maoists who had attacked their colleagues.
I asked one of the officers about the morale of the entire force. “The morale of the boys here has gone down. They lost too many of their colleagues in one go.”
From what I understood of it, its a COBRA bn, and she also goes on to say that they were specifically inducted to take care of the Maoists who had carried out the Dantewada attacks, which makes sense, since the general refrain amongst the CRPF/security officers who appeared on TV in the aftermath of that attack was, "this would not have happened if it was a COBRA bn".

I think that she is not mistaken.
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ASP sahab, the reactions don't seem to be from COBRA. the normal CRPF are co-located with the newly inducted COBRA, that is the source of the confusion. moreover the morale comment is about "the entire force" meaning COBRA and line CRPF men included.
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The COBRA (or SAF now) chaps I met in Lalgarh where gung-ho and quite matter-of-fact. Cant imagine them cribbing about 'facilities'. They seemed to be a very tough bunch. They speak very little and I really really doubt if any of them would complain like a sissy before a journo. Not the type. The CRPF line men may be a different bunch, though.
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David Siegel wrote:Save us from this hell, beg CRPF jawans
The attack would have been a real blow to the morale of CRPF troops (or for any police/army unit which has lost so many of its men at one shot), but I dont think it has gone to such levels. Reading some of the news reports gave me a feeling that these journalists want to give a "larger than life" picture to one attack. News about CRPF men begging to be moved out risky areas etc. may be part of the same game plan. A kind of scare mongering tactic, perhaps in order to force the governments to pull back the troops and going for negotiations with these new bunch of terrorists.
Viv S wrote:The Maoists were kicked out of AP without the army interceding.
Yes. Infact I hope the various CPOs and state police forces take due note of how the state police of Andhra Pradesh (men from the same states, part of the same society and living in the same conditions like any one in Andhra Pradesh does) managed to wipe out this gang of murderers for good. Again the state police force also consists of IPS officers and State Police cadre. So what made the IPS officers in AP different from say that runs the show in Chattisgarh, CPOs etc.? Veerappan gang too was finished off by the TN Police again under the leadership of IPS officers. We cannot paint every single IPS officer using the same brush :).
pmund wrote:The CRPF line men may be a different bunch, though.
We cannot ridicule an entire organisation just based on the report of one journalist, IMHO. There is a running thread in this very forum which show-cases the capabilties of our journalist community ;). We have no more concrete information other than what this lady reporter has mentioned. She can even add that CRPF men literally fell at her feet, whined like a two year old baby asking her to rescue them (by putting them in her pram and push it away). And there would be people who would believe this story line, hook and sinker.

These days we need to watch out for the hidden agendas of the journalist, the news media he/she/it represents, the crowd to which these people are preaching etc. etc.
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Give me 24 hours & i will confirm whether this was a COBRA Bt or not..besides not all IPS officers are unfit and disconnected.Nalin who was the commandant has done a fair job in AP and even in J&K.
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Sachin, I was in no way ridiculing the CRPF. The word I used was 'different'. I have interacted with both COBRA and regular CRPF in Maoist deployment. There is a marked difference in attitude, and obviously so. The COBRAs are better trained and much better motivated. They know WHY they are there. The regular CRPF are in caught in a very strange position. You must remember that they don't have absolute freedom of movement and operations. They cannot do anything without the orders of the administration and police. Inept policemen plan out and lead road opening parties with CRPF tagging along. That's the truth in most Maoist areas where CRPF are deployed. But in case of an encounter, police scurry to the rear and the CRPF men take the lead. In Lalgarh, there were many instances of policemen who refused to move out of their thanas unless they had a CRPF platoon with them. They even held protest demonstrations for it. The CRPF, in its on way is a better force than state police, but the majority of them are trained in law and order and long postings in Maoist areas, with the threat of an attack hanging over them night and day takes its toll. Some of them are posted for three years on the trot.
As for the HT report, I have my doubts, esp the 'save us from this hell' whisper. No fighting unit goes around cribbing that way.
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pmund wrote:Can someone tell me how to 'set up' an LMG on top of a tree??????? The LMGs (there were two) were placed on top of small hillocks and poured down an inter-locking arc of fire on the CRPF jawans.
Dont know for sure about this incident but the tactic of LMGs in trees itself is an old one - dates right back to the Japanese in WWII. I recall seeing pics of one setup where it was secured in a sling made of vines! It is a spray-and-pray deal, but then with a height advantage it can quickly turn a clearing into a killing field. Moreover, people do not instinctively monitor what is above them (I guess our necks are not meant to be that way) so it provides a greater element of surprise and also makes it difficult for the men on the ground to shoot back. For detecting such movements we need eyes in the sky such as UAVs.
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pmund wrote:Inept policemen plan out and lead road opening parties with CRPF tagging along. That's the truth in most Maoist areas where CRPF are deployed...... In Lalgarh, there were many instances of policemen who refused to move out of their thanas unless they had a CRPF platoon with them.
I take your point :). CRPF does have its own limitations. They also do not have any investigative powers, and since they are not a regular law and order police, they would not have any intelligence gathering units. They are kind of a "large force of civil police, who can be ordered for lathi charges etc. in case of riots" etc. They would have to rely on the state police to help them with intelligence. As I mentioned before unless the state governments do not pull up their socks, Naxal menace would be hard to resolve.

If I am not mistaken BSF (which is a CPO) also had the problem of not having its own intelligence gathering setup. Finally they formed a 'G' Branch, which did a good job in J&K. But they too took time to set up such a sub-unit.
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Rahul M wrote:ASP sahab, the reactions don't seem to be from COBRA. the normal CRPF are co-located with the newly inducted COBRA, that is the source of the confusion. moreover the morale comment is about "the entire force" meaning COBRA and line CRPF men included.
That might explain it...
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Sachin wrote:We have no more concrete information other than what this lady reporter has mentioned. She can even add that CRPF men literally fell at her feet, whined like a two year old baby asking her to rescue them (by putting them in her pram and push it away). And there would be people who would believe this story line, hook and sinker.

These days we need to watch out for the hidden agendas of the journalist, the news media he/she/it represents, the crowd to which these people are preaching etc. etc.
As I had mentioned earlier, it could just be masala reporting from a journo out for a story. My comments were with the caveat "If it is true, then..."
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Can someone please confirm this? - I am hearing that only 2 CRPF personnel survived the ambush, Constables Aditya Singh and Arvind Kumar. Aditya Singh has lost vision in at least his left eye and is admitted in AIIMS right now. I thought there were 7 survivors :(
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In my last post I had already written about the condition of the camps of CRPF, and about the problem they face regarding local language and intelligence from local sources which is very much important. So that lady journo is not teling any thing new, a bit inflated thou. But looks like no one read that.. :cry: :cry: :evil:
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Points made in Pmund, RahulM, and other posters previously are still valid. Hardship is a way of life during combat and CT operations (and that is what the anti naxal ops are). The experience of the Army, and also the BSF and ITBP has shown that a harsh environment, including Snakes, insects, searing heat, and dirty water are all part and parcel of what soldiers in any jungle environment deal with. They should not lead to a failure of morale. Indeed the jungle is not the only harsh environment that troops are exposed to. Freezing cold, torrential rain, floods, mud, artillery fire, enemy machine guns, bombardments and a host of other unpleasantries accompany combat ops routinely. It is unpleasant, but it does not cause utter loss of will to fight, else of course, Kargil, and every other war India has fought, would have ended in disaster.

In re to Sachins comments, as to the disaster of losing their comrades, the CRPF authorities should have by now rotated (and probably eventually will) the demoralized bn out of the sector. Losing an entire company is a terrible decimation which would, as pointed out, cause a loss of efficacy and morale. But keeping this wounded bn in sector will reduce morale of other units also. It should be sent off to recuperate and refit, and I would expect that this is what will happen in the near future.
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The journo confirmed they that the lot which spoke to her in English were the SAF(CoBRA) boys,the rest were from another forward battalion.

What is appalling is the living conditions,swarms and pools of water,surely we can provide pumps to drain the water out.Besides not electricity for hours and little protection from surroundings lead to insecurity and paranoia which deteriorates mental health.Our armed forces and CPO's don't take mental health seriously thus u can imagine their morale being so low.Remember most o the CRPF jawans come form poor families and hence they hope that they will be able to provide their families with some source of income steadily rather than having to battle or basic amenities.

& lets not even get into how much they are paid.. :cry:
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mmasand wrote:Remember most o the CRPF jawans come form poor families and hence they hope that they will be able to provide their families with some source of income steadily rather than having to battle or basic amenities


Do you pause to think what you write before you write them?

What does their field conditions, have anything to do with their officially provided living conditions without families which have anything to do with providing for families?

Yes any and each of the factors can be made better and there is always scope for improvements. But mixing different things together in a completely mindless manner is nonsensical and detrimental a lot like the article that was posted.
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mmasand wrote:The journo confirmed they that the lot which spoke to her in English were the SAF(CoBRA) boys,the rest were from another forward battalion.

What is appalling is the living conditions,swarms and pools of water,surely we can provide pumps to drain the water out.Besides not electricity for hours and little protection from surroundings lead to insecurity and paranoia which deteriorates mental health.Our armed forces and CPO's don't take mental health seriously thus u can imagine their morale being so low.Remember most o the CRPF jawans come form poor families and hence they hope that they will be able to provide their families with some source of income steadily rather than having to battle or basic amenities.

& lets not even get into how much they are paid.. :cry:
Families are not posted in CI areas. They are accommodated in CRPF "Group Centers", located in Chandigarh, Hyderabad area, Chennai, Lucknow, Calcutta, etc. while personnel are posted to CI zones.

As to the IPS officer who ordered this recce, I don't doubt that he may have performed well in the past, but he initiated a major action without sufficient caution in this case. All track records are good, until they are blemished, and certainly his role should be examined carefully as well. I dont know what your equation with him is, it may be that you know him personally, and find him to be likeable, but it doesnt seem to have any bearing upon the matter. In any case, a full and fair enquiry should be conducted, and the matter assessed in its entirety.
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No my point is that there is no rotation for months together making them lose motivation.Further incidents like these are bound drop the morale,damn they are humans after all.Let's not compare them to the caliber of the IA.My point being CPO's are merely a source of employment for them,not necessarily passion.Hence,it takes double the effort to groom them.

As to the IPS officer,no I dont know him,but his track record speaks for itself>Of course he could have messed the whole thing up,but to wholly pin the blame on him is blasphemous.im sure the the command would have come from the top.At the end of the day it only pin points to the lacklustre setup and structure of the CPO's.
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mmasand wrote:No my point is that there is no rotation for months together making them lose motivation.
Well that was not what you said, meanwhile I am not taking that report remotely seriously. Yes there is a lot that needs to be done and some significant parts were identified on this thread during prior discussion. However the report is on a very different track altogether.

Not a credible data point, at the moment.
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Rotation in and out of situation cannot be on a monthly basis... After all, the bn has to have some time to settle in, familiarise with the Batallion area of Responsibility, and carry out ops. Army bns are usually on a three year duty rotation schedule. Sometimes it gets extended longer. I suppose similar plans have been developed for CRPF.

Meanwhile, Arundirty Roy wails about our forces unleashing terror in the "lovely forest villages" in OUTLOOK magazine.
“In the lovely forest villages, the concrete school buildings have either been blown up and lie in a heap or they are full of policemen,” Roy wrote in her article describing the situation in Chhattisgarh’s Bastar.
I sometimes wonder, like PC, what will the Maoists do with these Arundirty types, if they do come to power? Will they charge them the 30 cents for the bullet, before they get rid of them? Or will they make them Commissars of Reeducation and Deintellectualisation?
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Maybe Arundirty needs to be asked - who blew up the buildings in the first place? :roll:
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Breaking News....

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 837535.cms
Maoists attack four CRPF camps in Dantewada

PTI, Apr 20, 2010, 11.12pm IST

RAIPUR: Maoists on Tuesday night carried out near-simultaneous attacks on four CRPF camps in Dantewada district of Chhattisgarh, triggering gunbattles but there was no immediate report of casualties.

About 300 to 400 Naxalites carried out the attacks on the camps of the paramilitary personnel at Chintangufa, where 75 CRPF men and a policeman were killed in the worst Maoist strike two weeks ago, Kanker Lanka, Potampalli and Bheji in quick succession beginning at around 1930 hours, sources said.

The CRPF men retaliated, sparking intermittent gunbattles with the Maoists in all the four places till 2130 hours.

There was no immediate report of any casualty on either side, said the sources.
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It was a probing attack. No casualties. Shots were fired from well over MEF. The Maoists were pbly testing the CRPF response
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300-400 so soon sounds like exaggeration to me. probably symbolic strikes to play on the psychological side of the CRPF men.
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The figures may not be wrong because four CPRF camps were attacked in all -- Chitangufa, Kanker Lanka, Petampalli and Bheji.
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Perhaps this attack is a cover to distract forces from something else. Else, theyre testing what the SAF bns are capable of. Amazing that theyre using early to mid 20th century communist guerrilla tactics today!
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Once again - a perfect opportunity for employing air strikes, if we can muster up the will. These kinds of probing attacks are a no-risk affair for Maoists because they know that there will be no hot-pursuit. OTOH, if the attacked CRPF camps call in air support, a whole bunch of these pests can be eliminated in one go.
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