My dear good sir, It is obvious that you're either ex-army or serving with some association with Ladakh Scouts - for the way you use 'my own nunnus'..an affection that can come only with regimental association. Did you serve attachment with them or got commissioned into/seconded to LS after they became a Regiment of IA? We can really do with more contribution from someone like you but guess you're 'holier-than-thou' attitude will not let you survive longer..but we digress.
Sharma wrote:..LoL...it is certainly beyond you as you yourself are saying. You look equaly retard or trying to show solidarity with the other. Anyways I belive there are many here like both of you so Broader sense means that these Tibetans are just sitting in India on huge GoI funds and facilities. They could not deliver for what for what they were given shelter for. Instead they are sucking in to our resources in Ladakh and whereever they have been given shelter. Local Ladakhis feel that they get step child treatment from both State and Central Govt. State Govt for being more Kashmir and Jammu centeric and Centre Govt for being more Tibetan centeric. Even average Vikas (Tibetan) soldiers get more hype then my own LS nunnus (Ladakh Scount soldiers).
As for the Tibetan and resources issue is concerned, it is not their fault that they get assistance from GOI while the Ladakhis get step-motherly treatment from J&K Government (as does Jammu). The mandate to maintain Leh is with GO-J&K and not GOI. But more than GOI subsidy, it is the foreign aid that supports Tibetan population in India.
And btw, what resources are they 'sucking'? Land alloted to them to settle and establish their colonies? Everything else, they must buy from open market and sustain themselves (from business and grants from Tibetan Government in Exile). And apart from the land alloted initially, land for further development of monasteries in India has been brought at face value. Land, which cannot be registered in their name - will have to be surrendered by back in case they decide to leave some day.
They do more good to the local economy than 'suck' up the local resource. Dharamshala today is a tourist hot-spot more due to presence of HH Dalai Lama than anything else. Bulk of the tourist economy (from foreign tourists) is sustained on the basis of those who are drawn to this small town due to presence of Tibetal Government in Exile than the scenic beauty - which is incidental. Just for your reference, many moons ago their was a spat (and violence) between one section of local community and Tibetan. After the local politicians raised the bogey of driving the Tibetans out of D'Shala, HH Dalai Lama oferred to move his government. Guess, who stopped him? HP Government and local people. For without them, the money-spinning component of tourist economy would have gone bust. So, please don't go by the rhetoric and make some effort to research the topic in hand.
As for the coverage of LS and Vikas, don't you think it is but natural for media to write a story about "Tibetan" - foreigners, fighting for India than Indians themselves? Something that is more sensational. On the other hand, have you seen articles on Rajput/Kumaon/Bihar/(fill your favorite) Regiment in the print or electronic media? BTW, the articles about Vikas have more platitudes and 'emotional' stuff than anything else. From a soldiers point of view, what matters more is the recognition when the history and details of the war are written. Will any such history book talk about Vikas Regiment? No, and for obvious reason.But do they talk about Ladakh Scouts (or the earlier Nubra Guards)? They do and do in details and in glorified terms.
Only conflict, in which I've not come across the details of ops by LS is Kargil. Captain Amrinder Singh, in his book, 'Ridge too far', while giving details of operations about the battalions (ten of the twelve in all) which received the "Bravest of Brave" Commendations, writes and I qoute -
"The two left out are the two wings of the Ladakh Scouts. Both, under their respective Commanding Officers, Lt.Col. AS Chandoke of the Indus Wing and Lt.Col.Dinesh Naikwade of the Karakoram Wing, performed brilliantly. However, the role of Scouts borders on that of Special Forces and no country would wish to have the organization and tactics of their Special Forces made public. In consequence, and with utmost reluctance, I felt bound to leave out the detailed accounts of the operations of these fine units<SNIP>"
Now a soldier, would go by these words of commendation or an article published here or there by the media?
The above article denounces exactly what you want the Tibetans to do with respect to the Chinese. So what was the point of posting the same?
Also, I realy find the section of your post where you say and I qoute,
"They could not deliver for what for what they were given shelter for", pretty, shall we say, stupid. What was expected of the Tibetans that they have not delivered on? And what should have they done? Raised a guerilla force and launched raids across the LAC? Who signed agreement with Chinese which restricts SFF from operating close to LAC? GOI does not even allow them to protest infront of Chinese Embassy for 'fear' of upsetting our northern freind without permission...So,what could have they done?
And for Rohit, As you know that Indian Govt has allowed a Tibetan Govt in exile in Dharamshala and same way he is allowed to have his own security guards. Increase in threat perception for your HH after recent violence in Lhasa has increased the security detail also. Therefore we could see these guys. Well, these guys are not SFF for sure as XIV corps (read Army) is not responsible for security details of any visiting State head anywhere in country.
Well, I do know that there is a Tibetan Government in Exile in D'Shala and HH has his security detail. That is why I said that he does not have personal security guards who flaunt arms like those gentlemen are doing. It is the responsibility of State Police along with IB to take care of his security. Those fellows cannnot be Tibetan for a simple reason that they are in uniform. They could very well be armed with those toys and be in civvies - like those gents in background. Last I checked, Tibetan government in exile hasn't raised a private militia.
because Indian Ships don't leave any trail of smoke behind 
They operate on clean fuel technology which has no repercussions to the environment!
learn to understand the facts! The Congress govt, never allocated proper facilities, because it does NOT have the will or courage to tackle Maoists. For all they care, as long as the violence doesn't spread they are happy let alone even thinking about providing strategic air support! Second as for monkeys like me, rooting for Modi govt, it's because IMMATURE DONKEYS (A$$E$ would be a better word) like you vote for the napak govt! It is THIS napak govt, who still hasn't HUNG Afzal Guru, let alone willingly playing ball with Kasab, and now we get to hear shit like Pakistan want's access to Kasab to build their cases! I'd answer more of your immature and amateurish responses with grave technical and political details but unlike you, fortunately I do NOT want to derail this thread and hence I'll stop before this thread ends up like the MMRCA thread!
