Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
Overall it is an AOA moment! Let's hope for the best that another CIA linked terrorist Imam guy (along with the Britist terrorist cum journo cum film maker) goes too.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
Great post. IIRC, you have hit the nail on the head regarding the "curious case of MMS and Pak lovemaking".MMS and co are neither incompetent nor traitors. It is just that their view point does not envisage a nationalistic and militarily strong India which is proud of its culture and heritage. It is the DIE mindset which sees Indian interests subordinated to western interests.
Only scary thing is that there are still 4 years of MMS left. Wonder what more depressing news we would have to read/witness on the Pak front in these 4 looong years!!!
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
OK enough R/D(rhona/dhona) on MMS and co.
Nightwatch reports...
Nightwatch reports...
What he is saying is the TSP is getting money to go after its own Pakiban whom they created. Will soon see some stresses inside TSP. So its bahrupiya performance by the TSPA Ox, being paid by massa.Pakistan: For the record. The United States will transfer $600 million to Pakistan to reimburse it for military operations conducted during the past year, according to a statement from the U.S. Department of Defense on April 29. A Pentagon spokesman said the $600 million will be sent to Pakistan within the next few weeks, and that Washington has made great efforts at accelerating reimbursement payments to Islamabad.
Comment: A few months ago a Brilliant and Discerning Reader suggested in feedback that Pakistani counter-militant operations did not represent a basic change in Pakistani views of the threat. He did not know why the Pakistanis suddenly began pursuing Afghan Taliban, but was certain the reason was something other than a shift in national priorities.
This news item provides that missing component of causality. The Saudis have bought Pakistan Army security services, from time to time. Why not the US. Using economic power to improve security is always cheaper than using military power and better than spilling American lives in far away places. It works as long as the money does not run out.
This also helps explain the seeming paradox of the Pakistan Army's continued identification of India as the primary threat, while committing substantial resources against the militants in the west.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
It is actually blood money given to Pakistan to kill its own people. What kind of banana republic does that? - First turn their people into terrorist for someone else's sake ( Christians) and now kill their own people (again) for someone else's sake (Christians).
To add insult to injury, this one calls itself *Guardian of Islam!!*
Zaid Zaman Hamid - We all know you read this forum. Where the fu(k are you? Read this and repent!!
To add insult to injury, this one calls itself *Guardian of Islam!!*
Zaid Zaman Hamid - We all know you read this forum. Where the fu(k are you? Read this and repent!!
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
As you sow so shall you reap. So finally guy who created the monster was consumed by the same. The best part is reserved for later when he reaches the pearly gates to look for his 72.......SSridhar wrote:kidnapped Khalid Khwaja found dead
Former intelligence officer Squadron Leader Khalid Khwaja (retd) was found dead in Karam Kot area of Mir Ali, Geo News reported.
Bullet riddled body of Khalid Khwaja was found today with a pamphlet saying Asian Tigers killed Khwaja.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
1 killed, 3 wounded in Karachi blast
KARACHI: At least one man was killed and three others injured in an apparent bomb blast in old city area here Friday night, ARY NEWS reported.
The blast was triggered by a bomb planted in a motorcycle that was parked near a trash site in Hindu Parra area of Soldier bazaar, eyewitnesses say.
One man was killed in the incident while at least three people have been rushed to the hospital, said an an emergency relief worker.
KARACHI: At least one man was killed and three others injured in an apparent bomb blast in old city area here Friday night, ARY NEWS reported.
The blast was triggered by a bomb planted in a motorcycle that was parked near a trash site in Hindu Parra area of Soldier bazaar, eyewitnesses say.
One man was killed in the incident while at least three people have been rushed to the hospital, said an an emergency relief worker.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
As someone who has studied the US media as extensively as I have, everything is a matter of definition, emphasis, and obfuscation. Thus, a lie can be perpetuated without actually telling one.MMS and co are neither incompetent nor traitors. It is just that their view point does not envisage a nationalistic and militarily strong India which is proud of its culture and heritage. It is the DIE mindset which sees Indian interests subordinated to western interests.
Thus, the notion of a traitor is a matter of definition. Tomorrow somebody might sell Pentagon secrets. In US view, he is a traitor, but in his view, he is working for "world peace".
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
IsI, after releasing a video saying he was really working for IsI and having fun with Talibani's?ramana wrote:^^R, The head is still attached. So its not the pure who did him in. It was isi so they don't hand over to massa. Whats this BS about Asian Tigers? More like Paki Pigs!
Now why would ISI want that kind of publicity?
To me the word Asian Tigers has only one connotation. But then "hum bolega to bologe ke bolta hai"
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
Let it be or else it will be par for the course of self goals!
Folks like to see saffron behind every green. We saw that a page ago already here.
Folks like to see saffron behind every green. We saw that a page ago already here.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
Pakistan is not a nation. It is a artifical small private group of people which is pretending to be a nation.Satya_anveshi wrote:It is actually blood money given to Pakistan to kill its own people. What kind of banana republic does that? - First turn their people into terrorist for someone else's sake ( Christians) and now kill their own people (again) for someone else's sake (Christians).
To add insult to injury, this one calls itself *Guardian of Islam!!*
Zaid Zaman Hamid - We all know you read this forum. Where the fu(k are you? Read this and repent!!
Actor Feroz Khan made a comment several years before he died. He said in Pakistan Muslims are killing Muslims and he found it distressing. He was under the impression that Muslims in the sub continent were a nation and they are together. This realization among the sub continental muslims is needed for the future of the region.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
The article linked to by SSridhar about Khalid Khawaja being found shot dead with a note attached, doesn't give much detail about the note.
The NYTimes tells us
Dawn also does not mention the Lal Masjid in the note.
The NYTimes tells us
The fallout of the Islamabad Lal Masjid incident continues.A printed note attached to the body accused Khawaja of spying for the CIA and Pakistan's main spy agency, Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI. It also accused him of being involved in an attack in 2007 on militants holed up in a mosque in Islamabad by Pakistani security forces.
Dawn also does not mention the Lal Masjid in the note.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
CRamS wrote
No, treason/traitor is defined by the law.Thus, the notion of a traitor is a matter of definition.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
Bismilla,SSridhar wrote:kidnapped Khalid Khwaja found dead
Former intelligence officer Squadron Leader Khalid Khwaja (retd) was found dead in Karam Kot area of Mir Ali, Geo News reported.
Bullet riddled body of Khalid Khwaja was found today with a pamphlet saying Asian Tigers killed Khwaja.
Can we hold the celebrations until we see the bullet riddled body in a photograph? Just like we saw Baitulla Mehsud's corpse, but we never did see Hakimullah Mehsud's body.
Turns out that Hakimulla Mehsud is alive and kicking.
Khwaja is as big a snake as Hamid Gul / Osama Bin Laden / Omar Saeed Sheikh. There guys hold big secrets and have huge leverages within pakistan's intelligence establishment. He even wears OBL's topi, has a beard just like OBL, and on a day with bad light will look like a potbellied SDRE OBL.
I won't believe this one is dead until I see a photo.
PS: the name Asian Tigers (just like the Tamil Tigers) sounds 400% Islamic. How long before Jahil Hamid (PBUH) says that RAA created this group?
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
Gagan ji,
Not very clear but an earlier link to a paki paper(dailytimes?) showed a photo of khwaja guy lying down (of course chest down masked out).
BTW: I don't think Baitullah's photo too appeared plus the persona itself is in doubt. I won't be surprised if he too comes alive just as Hakimullah did.
Added later: Oh [email protected] is the same link you are quoting (jung).
Not very clear but an earlier link to a paki paper(dailytimes?) showed a photo of khwaja guy lying down (of course chest down masked out).
BTW: I don't think Baitullah's photo too appeared plus the persona itself is in doubt. I won't be surprised if he too comes alive just as Hakimullah did.
Added later: Oh [email protected] is the same link you are quoting (jung).
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/01/world ... ?ref=world
ISLAMABAD — A former Pakistani intelligence officer with deep connections to the Taliban and Al Qaeda was found dead in the western tribal area of Pakistan on Friday, after being kidnapped by militants a month ago.
The body of the former officer, Khalid Khawaja, was found on a road between the towns of Mir Ali and Miranshah in the militant-controlled North Waziristan area, Pakistani news outlets reported. He had been shot in the head and the torso, according to Pakistani television, which broadcast a photograph of what appeared to be Mr. Khawaja’s body. His son, Osama Khalid, confirmed the death.
Mr. Khawaja, a fast-talking former Air Force officer, had long been a link between the Pakistani military and militant networks in Afghanistan in the 1980s, when the United States was funneling money to the networks to fight the Soviets there.
But as years passed, militants once under the control of the Pakistani state began to turn on it, forming a dangerous patchwork of tribal, ethnic and sectarian alliances.
It appeared to be Mr. Khawaja’s role as a negotiator in a battle between Pakistan’s military and a militant mosque in Islamabad in 2007 that got him into trouble. The siege enraged militants all over Pakistan and was the turning point for many groups, including Jaish-e-Muhammad, a group based in Punjab Province that split, with half moving to Taliban-controlled Waziristan and declaring war on the state.
A religious leader familiar with the kidnapping said the militants, who called themselves the Asian Tigers, were part of the Jaish-e-Muhammed splinter group. Pakistani television reported that a note had been left with his body, stating that he was killed because he had sided with the government in the siege of the mosque. Reports stated that the militants spoke Punjabi.
Mr. Khawaja was believed to have persuaded one of the militant leaders to sneak out in a burqa, to allow the military to arrest him.
A video of Mr. Khawaja in captivity showed him in a red cap looking grim speaking in Urdu saying that he had been an spy for the United States and Pakistan. An earlier report stated he had claimed to be on a negotiating mission for the state.
A spokesman for Pakistan’s intelligence agency, known by its initials, ISI, denied that Mr. Khawaja had gone to the area on the agency’s behalf. A Western diplomat in Islamabad said this week that state sponsorship would have been highly unlikely.
Pakistan did not cut off ties with militants until after 2001, though it was unclear how long Mr. Khawaja remained associated with the military. He surfaced in 2002, in the case of the killing of the Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl, to whom he reportedly gave militant contacts.
He was adamantly anti-American, and an outspoken opponent of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Though he did not have a law degree, he was a self-appointed member of the defense team for the five Americans who were detained last year on suspicions of seeking to wage jihad in Afghanistan.
“We don’t like Americans,” he declared in his house in Islamabad in December. “Our government is in their hands, and there is a mess because of it.”
He deplored a situation in which the United States was not “judged for its bombs,” and said that suicide bombers “carry a message — of injustice, revenge, and belief,” which had built up because society had ignored them. He claimed to be housing an Arab family whose father had been killed in Afghanistan.
“He was fond of martyrdom,” Mr. Khawaja’s son said. “And now he is lucky because he has it.”
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
When more pure kill the less pure, the less pure don't get martyrdom. They go to jahliya not jannat. So Khalid mia no raisins for you. Too bad you didnt even edumacate your son!
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8654520.stm
The link above has his picture...
The link above has his picture...
Officials said Khalid Khawaja's body was found in a ditch near the town of Mir Ali on Friday afternoon. He had been shot in the head and chest.
A note attached to the body claimed that Mr Khawaja - a former Pakistani intelligence officer - was a US agent.
It said that if "someone tries to spy for America this will be his fate".
Mr Khawaja, along with two other men, had been missing for several weeks after travelling into North Waziristan.
A group calling itself the Asian Tigers later said it had kidnapped all three.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
Few highlights of the NYTimes article posted above
* Asian tigers are offshoot of JeM that went off to FATA/NWFP and is fighting the Paki army because of the Lal Masjid destruction.
* Killers spoke Punjabi.
the last line which takes the cake:
Given that the group is called "Asian tigers" and given that they didnt do Halal execution (they chose shooting with a rifle), is it safe to speculate that relatively educated, but frustrated faction of JeM are behind this. It reminds me of this guy Umar Kundi who split from LeT and started attacking TFTA army. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/world ... youth.html
* Asian tigers are offshoot of JeM that went off to FATA/NWFP and is fighting the Paki army because of the Lal Masjid destruction.
* Killers spoke Punjabi.
* Khawaja's son is called Osama - (I dont think that it is by coincidence.)Gagan wrote: He even wears OBL's topi, has a beard just like OBL, and on a day with bad light will look like a potbellied SDRE OBL.
the last line which takes the cake:
Edit: Ramanaji“He was fond of martyrdom,” Mr. Khawaja’s son said. “And now he is lucky because he has it.”
Given that the group is called "Asian tigers" and given that they didnt do Halal execution (they chose shooting with a rifle), is it safe to speculate that relatively educated, but frustrated faction of JeM are behind this. It reminds me of this guy Umar Kundi who split from LeT and started attacking TFTA army. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/world ... youth.html
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http://www.hindu.com/2010/05/01/stories ... 181400.htm
Evidently surprised by the Indian response to Pakistan's persistent calls for dialogue, Mr. Qureshi did not hide the fact that it was beyond expectation. As media sought to point out discrepancies in his post-summit briefing and that of Ms. Rao's, he urged journalists not to nit-pick and vitiate the atmosphere.
However, to a pointed question on whether the dialogue would start from scratch, he shot back: “Why should we go back to Class I when we have already cleared some ground.”
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All issues that have been discussed in the past would be on the table in the future also, he said, identifying Kashmir, Siachen, Sir Creek, water, trade and people-to-people contact as Pakistan's concerns. As for India's concern about terrorism, his counter was that it was a global concern and would be best addressed collectively.
According to Mr. Qureshi, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's approach was very positive. “He wants India-Pakistan ties to improve to such an extent that the two premiers can be on first name basis and feel comfortable enough to call each other at any point to discuss any subject.”
Asked if Pakistan feared that Dr. Singh may have conceded more ground than the Indian polity and his own party would allow – as was the case after his effort to break the ice in Sharm-el-Sheikh – Mr. Qureshi maintained that this time the Congress party appeared to be on board.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
We have basically accepted Paki roadmap offered during Foreign Secretary level talks.
Qureshi correctly predicted during their Strategic dialogue in Washington that India would have change her position.
Qureshi correctly predicted during their Strategic dialogue in Washington that India would have change her position.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
The real story is as below:Acharya wrote: Actor Feroz Khan made a comment several years before he died. He said in Pakistan Muslims are killing Muslims and he found it distressing. He was under the impression that Muslims in the sub continent were a nation and they are together. This realization among the sub continental muslims is needed for the future of the region.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feroz_Khan
In May 2006, Feroz Khan was blacklisted by then Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf when he went there to promote his brother's film, Taj Mahal. In an intelligence report submitted to the Musharraf, he was said to have gotten drunk and insulted Pakistani singer and anchor Fakhr-e-Alam and criticizing the country saying:
"I am a proud Indian. India is a secular country. The Muslims there are making lot of progress unlike in Pakistan. Our President is a Muslim and our Prime Minister a Sikh. Pakistan was made in the name of Islam, but look how the Muslims are killing Muslims here."
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
I thought the Pakis have disowned the so-called progress made before November 2008. Qureshi himself could not find any documents related to the dialogue in his Foreign Office.However, to a pointed question on whether the dialogue would start from scratch, he shot back: “Why should we go back to Class I when we have already cleared some ground.”
Btw, do we need Parliament's approval for MMS/SSM's vision of open borders/more autonomy/joint mechanism for J&K? Do they need the support of 2/3 rd members of Parliament?


Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
Here you go Gaganullah! Ask and you shall receive. This should make a pure believer out of you. Sorry about the missing gory parts, though.Gagan wrote:Bismilla, Can we hold the celebrations until we see the bullet riddled body in a photograph? Just like we saw Baitulla Mehsud's corpse, but we never did see Hakimullah Mehsud's body. I won't believe this one is dead until I see a photo.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
^^^ Anujan Could be. Maybe they are not Islamic enough and used bullets instead of Zulfiqar? How can a J-e-M splinter group call itself Asian Tigers? it should have some high sounding dawa name.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
The Guardian, UK
The militants recently sent the Guardian hostage videos of the three men from the same email address. Asian Tigers is believed to be a cover name for a group of Punjabi sectarian militants belonging to the notorious Lashkar I Jhangvi group.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
Pak Ex-Diplomats Jailed for Issuing Passports to Indians
Two former Pakistani diplomats were today sentenced to one year in prison by an anti-terror court for issuing passports to three Indian citizens, including a man linked to the 1993 serial bomb attacks in Mumbai, who had furnished fake documents' for the purpose.
Judge Wamiq Javed of the anti-terrorism court sentenced Ghulam Rasool Balouch, Pakistan's former Consul General in Houston, US, to rigorous imprisonment for one year and imposed a fine of Rs 15,000 on him.
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Folks, I am pleased and honored to announce the link to SSridhar's blog on Pak Watch.
http://pak-watch.blogspot.com/2010/04/p ... -from.html
Thanks to SSridhar and Jamawal for seizing the initiative and hope this is the first of many such ring of blogs which will spread our message.
Please visit and be informed.
Thanks,
ramana
http://pak-watch.blogspot.com/2010/04/p ... -from.html
Thanks to SSridhar and Jamawal for seizing the initiative and hope this is the first of many such ring of blogs which will spread our message.
Please visit and be informed.
Thanks,
ramana
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
I am a little surprised by the name "asian tigers"...does not sound too jihadi at all. Sounds too modern. Also why would the jihadis kill another jihadi, unless he was a US agent and his cover was blown. Its also odd that some one with deep jihadi connections walked into a trap..something fishy with story..Suppiah wrote:BTW, are they running out of Islamic and Urdu based alphabet-soups? Now resorting to angrezi names for their outfits = Asian tigersexpect more 'competition' as there are many more animals still around (again pun intended
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There is an aura of poetic justice about a(n) (former) uniformed Islamic Jihadi of the Military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan meeting his end at the hands of un-uniformed Islamic Jihadi’s.Suppiah wrote:There was some interest in the fate of Khwaja of ISI and some speculation..along with Khwaja himself, such speculation can be laid to rest...
Former ISI Khalid Khwaja found dead in Waziristan
He has been dispatched with a one way ticket to enjoy his quota of 72.
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PM worked quietly on Plan Thimphu from Jan onwards
The 60-minute one-on-one meeting between Manmohan Singh and Yousuf Raza Gilani — without any note-taker on either side — was the culmination of a carefully-crafted strategy set in motion some four months ago.
The Indian Express has learnt that Singh had set the ball rolling for the Thimphu summit — where the two foreign ministers were told to talk — in January this year, when he asked Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao to call up her counterpart Salman Bashir and invite him for talks
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Sources said Singh took his seniormost colleague, Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee, into confidence on his strategy.
During the meeting between the principals — as the PMs are referred to in diplomatic parlance — Singh is learnt to have asked Gilani if moving forward on the issue of talks and raising it to the Foreign Ministers’ level would make the Pakistan PM stronger in his domestic situation.
With Gilani replying in the affirmitive — which New Delhi had expected — Singh conveyed to him about the urgency and the need to have the Mumbai attacks trial reach a speedy conclusion in Pakistan’s courts.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
You mean "Burst Of Ordinary Bullets" method?Prem wrote:Khwaja was high ranking Islamist, he dont deserve to be killed by the Burst of Bulletts (BOB) method. At least they could have treated him equal or better than honorable guest Daniel Pearl.
Nothing less than Ziba for the pure. Kafirs must have killed him if they used bullets.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
Pakistan ,sala Arab ban gya, Arab ban ke Paani kum piyya,
Yeh lota inka dekho, yeh brain inka dekho
Dono ko poora Khali kaaaaaaar diya.
Water dispute fuels India-Pakistan tensions
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... ons--bi-02
Yeh lota inka dekho, yeh brain inka dekho
Dono ko poora Khali kaaaaaaar diya.
Water dispute fuels India-Pakistan tensions
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... ons--bi-02
GUJRAT: A bitter dispute over limited water resources is fueling India-Pakistan tensions at a time when the South Asian neighbors are trying to rebuild trust and resume peace talks.
It's a long-running feud that has worsened in recent months as a dry spell focuses attention on Pakistan's growing water shortage. Three days of talks in March ended with both sides trading barbs and failing to reach a resolution.The issue was raised Thursday when the leaders of the two countries met at a regional summit in Bhutan and agreed on the need to normalize relations, the Pakistani side said.Further complicating the situation, extremists are trying to capitalize on allegations that India is stealing water from glacier-fed rivers that start in the disputed territory of Kashmir.
Independent experts say there is no evidence to support those charges, but they warn that Pakistani concerns about India's plans to build at least 15 new dams need to be addressed to avoid conflict.''If you want to give Lashkar-e-Taiba and other Pakistani militants an issue that really rallies people, give them water,'' said John Briscoe, ( Briscoe , a new God of pakistanian) who has worked on water issues in the two countries for 35 years and was the World Bank's senior water adviser.Farmers in Pakistan's central breadbasket are certainly angry.''India has blocked our water because they are our enemy,'' said Mohammad, a 65-year-old farmer in the town of Gujrat who goes by only one name.His farm sits a few miles (kilometers) from the Chenab River, which residents say has been shrinking since India completed a hydroelectric dam in its part of Kashmir in 2008. In some sections, water flows in only a tenth of the river bed, and nearby irrigation canals have dried up.Indian officials blame any reduction on natural variation and climate change, which have hurt India as well. They add that Pakistan's antiquated irrigation system wastes large quantities of water.''Preposterous and completely unwarranted allegations of stealing water and waging a water war are being made against India,'' the Indian ambassador to Pakistan, Sharat Sabharwal, said in a speech in April.The animosity over water could make it more difficult to resolve the signature dispute between the two countries: the decades-long struggle over Kashmir.The United States has been seeking to reduce India-Pakistan tensions, hoping that would free Pakistan to move troops away from the Indian front to fight militants attacking US and Nato troops in Afghanistan from sanctuaries near the Afghan border.''The issues of Kashmir and terrorism are going to be much more difficult if we don't have an agreement on water,'' said water expert Briscoe, now a professor at the Harvard School of Public Health.The origin of the water dispute can be traced to the creation of Pakistan and India in 1947, when the British Indian empire was partitioned. The split gave India control of the part of Kashmir that is the source of six rivers that irrigate crops in Pakistan's agricultural heartland of Punjab province and elsewhere.Under a 1960 agreement, Pakistan has the use of the three western rivers _ the Indus, Jhelum and Chenab _ and India, the three eastern ones _ the Sutlej, Beas and Ravi.India was granted limited use of Pakistan's rivers for agricultural purposes, plus the right to build hydroelectric dams, as long as they don't store or divert large amounts of water.Pakistan is one of the driest countries in the world, and water availability per person has fallen from about 5,000 cubic meters (175,000 cubic feet) in 1947 to around 1,000 cubic meters (35,000 cubic feet) today. Most of the drop is a result of rapid population growth, but recent shortages have heightened suspicion about India.Pakistan's Indus water commissioner, Jamat Ali Shah, doesn't accuse India of stealing water, but he says India isn't providing information required under the 1960 pact to prove that it's not.''There should be nothing in the track record that shows India has violated the treaty,'' said Shah. ''But it is a fact that the track record is not clear.''India denies any intention to cut off water to Pakistan and maintains that it has complied with the treaty. But as with other issues between the two countries, mistrust runs high.''If he has the capacity to hurt me, the best that can be said about him is that he will use it for blackmailing and the worst is that he will use it to harm me,'' said Shams ul Mulk, the former head of Pakistan's Ministry of Water and Power.Briscoe said the dams India is planning to build could give it the ability to choke off water to Pakistan if it wanted to pressure its neighbor.India should provide automatic flow data to Pakistan, he said, while also warning that heated rhetoric on the Pakistan side would only embolden extremists.—AP
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
In Balochistan Province of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan motorcycle borne acid attack on 3 sisters.
The speculation is that the acid attack was carried out by the most pious whose “righteous” anger was triggered by the merely pious committing un-Islamic acts such as stepping out of the home without a male escort:
Three sisters attacked with acid
This instance of acid attack is not an isolated case in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. About a fortnight back two other sisters aged 13 and 11 were similarly attacked in Balochistan:
Two girls seriously injured in acid attack
The speculation is that the acid attack was carried out by the most pious whose “righteous” anger was triggered by the merely pious committing un-Islamic acts such as stepping out of the home without a male escort:
Three sisters attacked with acid
This instance of acid attack is not an isolated case in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. About a fortnight back two other sisters aged 13 and 11 were similarly attacked in Balochistan:
Two girls seriously injured in acid attack
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
chindu journo Praveen Swami tweets away re TSP. TIFWIW.
https://twitter.com/praveenswami
https://twitter.com/praveenswami
Etc etc. Jai ho.Solid analysis of the troubles in Pakistan's Hazara division | http://bit.ly/a9oQoD
HuJI goes transnational | http://bit.ly/bc2tQE
Farhat Taj on the Tirah valley massacre | http://bit.ly/9zJ6Un
Cyril Almeida on the assassination of Benazir Bhutto. Great article | http://bit.ly/appyWh
More from Khurshid Kasuri on the abortive Manmohan-Musharraf Kashmir deal | http://bit.ly/9K2xRs
Pakistan's Daily Times thinks India's "leaving Mumbai behind | http://bit.ly/90E36n
Absolutely brilliant Anas Abbas blogpost on why some young Pakistanis are drawn to Zaid Hamid's neo-fundamentalism | http://bit.ly/9ScQw5
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
Wah, what high levels of expectations from the Pak side we have kept!!!While nobody in New Delhi is willing to set any benchmark for what could be described as “credible action” by Pakistan on the trial, it is widely accepted that conviction of the seven accused by the Rawalpindi court will be an important step forward — the legal challenges that will inevitably follow notwithstanding.
New Delhi, which has been watching the trial very closely, has noted that a quality private criminal lawyer has been hired, the qualitative level of arguments are now higher, and the drafting of affidavits by the Pakistan government has improved significantly.
Instead of this farce of "Pak has improved quality of lawyers" etc, GoI could have as well just started unconditional talks since the actions taken by Pak so far are not even worth a face-saver..
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
X Posted. Cannot see what there is for the Christian’s of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to be “bewildered” about.
To me all seems within the envelope of standard operating practice of the momin of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan when it comes to their dealings with dhimmi fellow national’s:
To me all seems within the envelope of standard operating practice of the momin of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan when it comes to their dealings with dhimmi fellow national’s:
Christians bewildered by Muslim violence in Pakistan
Friday, April 30, 2010
By Martin Barillas
Daily incidents of violence such as rape, abduction, and torture of Christians appears to be coutenanced with official indifference in Pakistan.
On April 28, in Quetta (Baluchistan), a Christian, Zulfiqar Gulzar, was killed by unidentified persons on the street. His community, bewildered by the violence, is seeking justice.
On the same day, in the city of Sargodha in Punjab, a 29-year-old Christian barber, Marwat Masih, was beaten by a group of conservative Muslims, who accused him of having cut off the beard of a young Muslim who had come into his shop asking him to trim it.
Also recently, in Punjab in the town of Murree, the girls' school St. Deny's Girls High School, run by the Protestant Church of Pakistan was set on fire. Investigations have indicated the responsibility of the Muslim fundamentalist groups (the so-called "Pakistani Taliban") who deny education to girls and wish to eliminate Christian social work, as seen in the attacks that occurred last March on the NGO offices of the Christian-based "World Vision" and a Salesian school in Baluchistan.
In the capital Islamabad, meanwhile, some NGOs are protesting another case of violence against a Christian girl, after the widely-publicized case of Shazia. This time, the victim is Sumera Pervaiz, a 14-year-old who worked as a maid in the house of Faheem Cheema, a commander in the Pakistani Air Force. Accused, without proof, of stealing some jewelry, Sumera was placed in isolation, beaten, and tortured for five days to extract a confession that the girl, who was innocent, did not give. She is now hospitalized and in danger of losing the use of her legs. ................................
Source: FIDES
Martin Barillas is a former US diplomat, who also worked as a democracy advocate and election observer in Latin America.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
The new, new face of the Pakistani Taliban?
http://afpak.foreignpolicy.com/posts/20 ... ni_taliban
http://afpak.foreignpolicy.com/posts/20 ... ni_taliban
As news reports emerge that Wali ur-Rehman is now leading Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan operations in Waziristan, Mansur Khan Mahsud briefly looks at his history.