Henrik wrote:It's still like your're giving away the ToT for free if you only charge the actual cost to manufacture the plane + a small profit. And that's where "program cost" comes into picture, because that's what the French taxpayers payed.. And since we know that the Rafale is freaking expensive to keep it the air, which can't be blamed on bad fuel economy alone, it just doesn't add up. I you want to make a profit that is, and not giving away spare parts for free. No, I believe it if/when it's official. As a comparison I know that the SwAF pays < $30 million / plane for Gripen C in flyaway costs incl. VAT.
it seems you need glasses, spewing "rumours" to compare with serious studies!
30m$ + vat for gripen C/d? http://www.defense-aerospace.com/dae/ar ... July06.pdf
Now you are one arrogant little thing.
Let's do some "serious" studies, let's do some math! Yay!
source is a statement made by the FMV (Defence material administration) in late 2008.http://www.fmv.se/WmTemplates/page.aspx?id=4489
I've run the important bits, for the sake of fairness through Google Translate but please, feel free to translate it all if you feel like it!
Yesterday left the FMV of the 204th Swedish Gripen fighter plane to the Armed Forces. The last three terms in the batch. The cost for the entire series of 64 aircraft were all 1.5 billion lower than what has been agreed.
Development projects tend to benefit more than the costs estimated when the difficulties encountered along the way, but here Jasprojektet has shown that it is possible to keep the economy even though the system is on the cutting edge of technology. The cost for the customer will be approximately ten percent lower than agreed, the entire 1.5 billion.
To clarify, the cost for batch 3 (delserie 3) came out being 10% lower than what was agreed upon from the beginning, or 1,5 billion SEK cheaper. We also know that batch 3 contained 64 Gripen C planes.
Here comes the math!
Since 10% = 1,5 billion SEK, then 100% is 15 billion SEK. We know that batch 3 turned out to be 10% cheaper than estimated through better production efficiency etc from the translation above.
Now, let's extract the 10% from 15 billion SEK. 15 billion - 1,5 billion = 13,5 billion SEK.
Since batch 3 consisted of 64 planes, let's divide 13,5 billion by 64. 13,5 billion / 64 = ~0,211 => 211 million SEK a piece.
211,000,000.00 SEK = 27,994,688.34 USD or ~$28 million.. So there you go, < $30 million / Gripen C
For the record, your source from 2006 states:
Gripen International AB says “the fly-away cost of a Gripen in the market is between $35 million
and $40 million."
Now that isn't very far from the calculations above if consider that your source is from 2006, before they knew that it would cost less than what they had anticipated. As I hope you know, it's fairly rare for the government to pay "market prices" when they have invested a huge amount of the taxpayers money into the project. They go for "bottom dollar".
I think you need to learn how to crawl before you can walk.