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Terrorist brought from Chhattisgarh to Punjab
Mohali (Punjab), May 4 (IANS) Punjab police Tuesday brought a terrorist, allegedly having international links, to this town from Raipur in Chhattisgarh, officials said.
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'Nima was working on the directions of a Germany-based terrorist Bhupinder Singh. Nima was also residing in Germany and had come to India a few months back to execute some major unlawful activities in different parts of the country,' said Gurpreet Singh Bhullar, district police chief.
He added: 'Earlier, we had arrested two terrorists from Zirakpur town, who were also working on the directions of Bhupinder Singh. We have a strong suspicion that Nima was also in contact with those two terrorists.'
It seems police are becoming proficient in arranging welcome parties to would be attackers. Could be the result of more proactive approach or better info sharing between agencies.
Mohali (Punjab), May 4 (IANS) Punjab police Tuesday brought a terrorist, allegedly having international links, to this town from Raipur in Chhattisgarh, officials said.
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'Nima was working on the directions of a Germany-based terrorist Bhupinder Singh. Nima was also residing in Germany and had come to India a few months back to execute some major unlawful activities in different parts of the country,' said Gurpreet Singh Bhullar, district police chief.
He added: 'Earlier, we had arrested two terrorists from Zirakpur town, who were also working on the directions of Bhupinder Singh. We have a strong suspicion that Nima was also in contact with those two terrorists.'
It seems police are becoming proficient in arranging welcome parties to would be attackers. Could be the result of more proactive approach or better info sharing between agencies.
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In light of the Chattisgarh link and the moaist-EJ partnership, what are the chances that the EJs are backing Khalistan terror as well?
In light of the Chattisgarh link and the moaist-EJ partnership, what are the chances that the EJs are backing Khalistan terror as well?
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No chance! To understand the support behind these Khalistani Khottays (donkeys) one has to refer back to the rebellion of then Punjab* against the Mughal empire, the restive NW and subsequent Hun invasion during Guptas and even the loss of control during the later times of Mauryan dynasty. There is a high correlation between the loss of/destruction of/restive NW India and the consequent collapse of Indic states (Guptas or Mauryas) or foreign imperial powers (Mughals/Slave dynasty).derkonig wrote:^^^^
In light of the Chattisgarh link and the moaist-EJ partnership, what are the chances that the EJs are backing Khalistan terror as well?
Move forward to 1947-although Nehru lost nearly all battles of strategic importance in his lifetime he won a major victory by getting all parties to agree to a division of provinces and thereby rescued chunks of Punjab and Bengal from the clutches of Jinnah's republic. Due the principle of division of provinces the dreams of Jinnah and other imperial powers to create an inimical nation state right at the border of New Delhi and cut India off from Indus watershed were thwarted. Jinnah and other countries' cockiness regarding the impeding collapse of Republic of India was partly because they thought that by default jinnahland would inherit the key (Punjab and greater Punjab ie NWFP) to the lock of power in India. The division of Punjab into East and West Punjab however put paid to those wet dreams. With East Punjab India became a part of the Indus Watershed and riparian state thereby Bharat Ganarajya was able to convert a settled deal into stalemate. The ambitions of imperialist forces and the renegade provinces of India (p-land) were thwarted for good by 1960s. However myopic and irrational policy approaches of then central governments created conditions ripe for exploitation by interested parties. The black April of 1978 when Nirankaris and Akhand Kirtani Jatha clashed was the second time when interested parties became powerful in deciding the fate East Punjab. Zia used his Arain Jalandhari Jatt card to influence the jatt clergy and footsoldiers of the Khalistani groups while interested governments from the west provided support of all kinds to these groups. What these cannon fodder folks did not realize was that they were a becoming part of the historic continuum of devious machinations of foreign powers in destabilizing India.
The Khaliatani movement at a very macro level was an old but deadly trick of finishing off Bharatiya Ganarajya by permanently ending its influence over its NW. East Punjab is our gateway to Indus plains and beyond, people have known and gamed this much before than the birthdates of all of us. Make no mistake folks the key to the ultimate glory and power of India lies in converting the current stalemate of divided Punjab into complete control over our NW either defacto or dejure.
*Includes current Indian Punjab, Himachal Pradesh, Haryana, parts of Jammu and the renegade Pakjab.
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munna ji excelento - as always.munna wrote:East Punjab is our gateway to Indus plains and beyond, people have known and gamed this much before than the birthdates of all of us. Make no mistake folks the key to the ultimate glory and power of India lies in converting the current stalemate of divided Punjab into complete control over our NW either defacto or dejure.
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Maybe we are already doing it? Results might take time to show up.ramana wrote:If I was pakka instead of kaccha I would send batches of operatives on Haj/Gulf to get into L-e-T and other outfits and expose the Pakis..
( no harm in dreaming!!

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sum wrote:Army to sack Purohit, but there’s no proof he sourced explosives
Why is he being discharged if there is zilch proof?The Army has decided to sack Military Intelligence officer Lt Col Srikant Purohit who was arrested in November 2008 for his alleged involvement in the Malegaon blasts in September that year.
The Army took the decision after a court of inquiry found Purohit blameworthy on several counts. It has recommended that Purohit should be dismissed at the earliest by withdrawal of the ‘President’s pleasure’, a stringent clause that is usually applied in serious matters like sedition and spying that require immediate dismissal.
There will be no need for a formal court martial. The final decision will be taken by the Defence Ministry, which will have to forward the matter to the President.
However, no proof has been found to substantiate allegations that the officer sourced the RDX used in the blasts from Army stocks in Jammu and Kashmir. A thorough check of all Army units with which Purohit was even remotely connected has revealed no evidence of missing ammunition or explosives, sources said.
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The sources added that investigations have also concluded that Purohit, currently facing trial in a civilian court, was not in a position to get hold of explosives seized during military operations in J&K. Purohit has been found blameworthy on other, less serious grounds. These include a charge that he purchased a bullet-proof jacket for himself without the required permissions. Another charge pertains to his purchase of an unauthorized debugging device with his own money.
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Sad that a promising career of a intel officer has ended ( no sympathy if he was what the secular brigade thinks him to be though)
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Shades of Lt Dreyfuss case.
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I saw good riddance to this recourse of lazy and uninspired investigators
Narco-analysis, brain-mapping illegal: SC
New Delhi, May 5 (PTI):
In a major blow to investigating agencies, the Supreme Court on Wednesday declared as ''illegal'' use of narco-analysis, brain-mapping and polygraph tests on suspects.
''We are of the considered opinion that no individual can be forced and subjected to such techniques involuntarily, and by doing so it amounts to unwarranted intrusion of personal liberty''" a bench headed by Chief Justice K G Balakrishnan said.
Narco-analysis, brain-mapping illegal: SC
New Delhi, May 5 (PTI):
In a major blow to investigating agencies, the Supreme Court on Wednesday declared as ''illegal'' use of narco-analysis, brain-mapping and polygraph tests on suspects.
''We are of the considered opinion that no individual can be forced and subjected to such techniques involuntarily, and by doing so it amounts to unwarranted intrusion of personal liberty''" a bench headed by Chief Justice K G Balakrishnan said.
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This same "President's pleasure" was used to dismiss Inspector Pradeep Sharma from the Mumbai Police, without any due enquiry or hearing out the case from his side. And if I am not mistaken he was reinducted to the Mumbai Police force after the terrorist attacks which took the lives of IPS officers Kamte and Sawant and Inspector Vijay Salaskar. Lt.Col. Purohit can also goto the recently formed Armed Forces Tribunal which are the appealing authority of Courts Martial.ramana wrote:Shades of Lt Dreyfuss case.
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NDTV: Emergency landing of a spicejet plane in Kolkata, 2 suspicious persons
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2 persons == Manly Russian woman in Burqaabhishek_sharma wrote:NDTV: Emergency landing of a spicejet plane in Kolkata, 2 suspicious persons
TOI link
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Singha wrote:I saw good riddance to this recourse of lazy and uninspired investigators
Narco-analysis, brain-mapping illegal: SC
New Delhi, May 5 (PTI):
In a major blow to investigating agencies, the Supreme Court on Wednesday declared as ''illegal'' use of narco-analysis, brain-mapping and polygraph tests on suspects.
''We are of the considered opinion that no individual can be forced and subjected to such techniques involuntarily, and by doing so it amounts to unwarranted intrusion of personal liberty''" a bench headed by Chief Justice K G Balakrishnan said.
I have been saying that certain people elevated by vested interests to high constitutional positions like President, vice President and others have caused immense damage to our society.
When one aspires for further promotions, extensions based on such vested interests, thankfully it is not always possible that such aspirations will come true.
The body politic invariably takes a heavy blow due to the shenanigans of this privileged but misfit and ill motivated few.
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I am reading a Telugu news paper (5/6/2010 Eenadu) and it says the recently arrested Zia Ul Haq is the main culprit in Mecca Masjid bomb.
Then what is the constipation about linking mecca masjid bombing with abhinav bharat

Then what is the constipation about linking mecca masjid bombing with abhinav bharat


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RamaY wrote:I am reading a Telugu news paper and it says the recently arrested Zia Ul Haq is the main culprit in Mecca Masjid bomb.
Then what is the constipation about linking mecca masjid bombing with abhinav bharat
You need to give link or details like name, day of publication and origin of the news report. A brief summary would be nice for others.
From Hindu, Andhra Pradesh section....
Relatives of LeT operative in shock
Staff Reporter
ADILABAD: The few relatives that he left behind in Khanapur village were surprised on hearing the news of arrest of the Lashkar-e-Taiba operative Md. Zia-ul-Haq in Hyderabad. They were taken aback to find out that the innocent four-year-old Md. Jani who had migrated to the State capital in 1979 grew up to change his name and ended up as a terrorist.
Jani is the youngest of three sons of Md. Sharief, a small time tea stall owner who used to live in Barkatpura locality of Khanapur village in Nirmal Revenue Division. “True to his name, the father was a humble person to the core”, remembered a neighbour about the family.
Migrates to State capital
Sharief had been to Qatar as a migrant labourer when the family, mother Aziza and three sons and five daughters shifted to Hyderabad. For reasons not known, the youngest son changed his name as Zia-ul-Haq as he enrolled in school and later in a private junior college in the Hyderabadi locality, incidentally also named Barkatpura.![]()
The Shariefs used to live in their family house which is now in a dilapidated condition. Relatives say they had heard news about Sharief's family making efforts a few years back to divide the property between him and his only surviving brother. “However, no one from the family has visited Khanapur yet. It is shocking to hear the news about the Sharief family in this manner”, observed a neighbour.
Incidentally, Zia-ul-Haq is the second person from Adilabad district to stand accused of being a terrorist belonging to the LeT. The first was Azam Ghori of Bhainsa, chief of LeT's South India operations, who was subsequently killed in an encounter with police in Karimnagar district.
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French national on recce mission?

I guess they meant Pakistan High Commission.A French national of Algerian origin, Ymad Bilel Benouahab, was deported on Tuesday (May 4) on a Qatar Airways flight after his activities in India raised suspicion. Benouahab was questioned at the detention center and he couldn’t explain why he halted in India on way to Pakistan. He had visited Pakistan High Court and Delhi Chabad House in Delhi.

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Folks be aware!
Zia-Ul-Haq says that there are 25 sleeper cells in Hyderabad with focus on HiTech city area.
Zia-Ul-Haq says that there are 25 sleeper cells in Hyderabad with focus on HiTech city area.
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Assam Tribune quoting security sources reports that National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB) was maintaining links with Pakistan. Sources said that at least two batches of NDFB cadres were sent to Pakistan for training with the support of the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI). However, the exact number of militants who received training in Pakistan is yet to be ascertained.
The NDFB was also maintaining close ties with different anti-India groups having bases in Bangladesh. According to an assessment by the Security Forces (SFs), at least a hundred trained cadres of the outfit are still in Assam, while, around 50 cadres must be in Bangladesh. Sources further said that the NDFB launched joint operations with the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA) from time to time, but the outfit also maintained close ties with other groups like National Socialist Council of Nagaland-Isak-Muivah (NSCN-IM), United National Liberation Front (UNLF), All Tripura Tiger Force (ATTF) and National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT) etc, as well as with some other anti-India groups in the neighbouring country. Sources revealed that under pressure in Bangladesh, anti-talk faction of the NDFB recently established a camp in Myanmar and is located near a camp of Kanglei Yawol Kanna Lup (KYKL).
Also, sources said that after the arrest of NDFB ‘chief’ Ranjan Daimary, the Government of India provided information about the whereabouts of several other militant leaders in Bangladesh and waiting for the response. Though the arrest of Ranjan Daimary is viewed as a major diplomatic victory for India, the Government will keep mounting diplomatic pressure on Bangladesh to take action against the militants, particularly those belonging to the ULFA and the NDFB, who are still staying in Bangladesh. Sources added that from the security point of view, the arrest of Ranjan Daimary was even more important than the arrests of the leaders of the ULFA.
Further, Ranjan Daimary on May 4 said that he was ready to hold talks with the Government and would do a rethink on the core demand of ‘sovereignty’, reports Telegraph. Daimary has, however, said that outfit’s constitution would have to be amended to remove the ‘sovereignty’ clause before going ahead with the talks.
In addition, Assam Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi on May 3 warned that NDFB and ULFA cadres were looking to carry out subversive activities jointly in the State, including the capital city. His comments came hours after the anti-talks group of the NDFB vowed to continue its struggle for the legitimate rights of the Bodo people. An emailed statement from B. Ohnjalu of the NDFB ‘publicity cell’ to the media on May 2 stated that “the arrest of NDFB chief is unfortunate but the fight against India to liberate the Bodo people will continue.” The statement also threatened that the Assam government would “get a better answer in the days to come if it does not hold talks with the NDFB.”
Reacting to Daimary’s arrest, the pro-talks faction of the NDFB which is in ceasefire with the Government, said that the development would not have any impact on the ongoing peace initiative between the outfit and New Delhi. The group’s ‘president’ Dhiren Boro hailed Daimary’s “home-coming” and said the latter should join the pro-talks faction. Other Bodo organisations also expressed hope that Daimary’s arrest would bring a permanent solution to the Bodoland issue.
Meanwhile, the steering committee formed by the April 24 Sanmilita Jatio Abhibartan (United National Convention) on May 4 said that the ULFA central committee could only decide whether or not the militant outfit would sit with the Government of India for negotiation without its ‘commander-in-chief’ Paresh Barua, reported Assam Tribune. Moreover, it is also up to the central committee of the militant outfit to take a decision on whether or not the issue of sovereignty would be there on the agenda of the outfit’s negotiation with the Union Government. Further, All Assam Tribal Sangha (AATS) has said that the Ranjan Daimary should be treated in the manner the arrested ULFA leaders are being treated.
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I see far-reaching ramifications for this judgement. The first case which may get thrown out would be the notorious Sister Abhaya murder case which rocked Kerala. A sister was allegedly killed by two padres and a nun and the body dumped into the well. The case has been going on for nearly two decades now. CBI who is now investigating the case had done a Narco Analysis on the accused, and they did reveal that they murdered the nun (this was widely shown by a Mallu news channel, until the courts asked them to stop it). The powerful church had done all possible things which they could do to get the case scuttled, right from day one. The other cases which may get affected by the verdict are the "Niharika case" (an IGP accussed of raping a minor girl) and the "Nithari case" (a chap in Delhi accused of multiple murders and cutting the bodies to pieces). Surprisingly a lot of "high and mighty" would now heave a sigh of reliefSingha wrote:I saw good riddance to this recourse of lazy and uninspired investigators

Let us see how this verdict is going to affect law enforcement in India.
Surprisingly I did not see any whines from the secular brigade today. Of how a dress worn by a specific community is given undue importance and people are making a mountain out of a mole hill.sampat wrote:2 persons == Manly Russian woman in Burqa
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Sachinji,Sachin wrote: I see far-reaching ramifications for this judgement. The first case which may get thrown out would be the notorious Sister Abhaya murder case
Apart from the undoubtedly disasterous ramifications,
the timing of the judgment is also suspect. The judgment itself is not as simple as it is made to sound. It looks like a case of spit and scoot.
Some appreciation of the security situation and need to strengthen the security apparatus strategically should take preference over insidiously expressed ideologies.
When the range of immediate beneficiaries include kobad gandhi and the Sister Abhaya murder case accused, one has to wonder.
After all, having gotten addicted to the loaves and fishes of office as it were, one has to make concrete arrangements for a future without the undoubtedly comforting trappings of high office.
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Reports coming in of one more mole in the IHC in Pak,an IPS officer from the TN cadre.Former RAW double-agent Unnikrishnan (Lankan/CIA infamy) was also from the TN cadre,what ails it so?
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Is there any proposal to fence the Indo-Nepal border?
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Old report. Seems like border fencing may not be enough.
The Subverted Indo-Bangladesh Border
By VK Shashikumar
http://www.indiandefencereview.com/2009 ... order.html
The Subverted Indo-Bangladesh Border
By VK Shashikumar
http://www.indiandefencereview.com/2009 ... order.html
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Border fencing is certainly not enough to handle all the issues. But current the process should go on, as it simply reduces infiltration or illegal immigration from 1000's to 100's or even 10's per day or month or per year whatever the numbers be. The bottom line is fencing reduces the magnitude.Supratik wrote:Old report. Seems like border fencing may not be enough.
The Subverted Indo-Bangladesh Border
By VK Shashikumar
http://www.indiandefencereview.com/2009 ... order.html
The GOI and BSF have already even started a 2nd layer of fencing. But beyond fencing we need more institutions to stop the problems we face even after fencing. As i see it, the more we use technology, the lesser personnel we need and lesser the institutional deficiencies. But until that stage we have to upgrade fencing, improve border roads. As of now the GOI seems on fast track on the bangla border and hope that continues.
Here is my updated table for the month of May.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key ... utput=html
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Murali, there was a report in the telegraph yesterday with a hint that BRO has been pulled to construct roads in the china border in sikkim. This was in the context of BRO pulling from NH 16 construction in Chattisgarh and MP border areas, the only "inside border" duty for BRO. That may also explain why the whole machinery has perhaps put the bd border to second rung interest for the time being. Nepal border fencing is NOT imminent, not till the levers of power in the South Block view the Terai region as more of an extension of UP. And especially with GJM going hammer and tongs in Gorkhaland [recall Jyoti Basu defending Nepali language] and Buddhadeb feeling the heat in Dooars et al., fencing on that side of the Nepal border is even less imminent.
It is also a good idea to get a picture of the riverine geography of WB border with BD. Only half the border roads have been sanctioned. The chars of WB are a hotly contested property. There is a belated realization in Tripura with the commies that running around with the BD brethren cant provide sustainable happiness. If you check out the body language of the Tripura CM and Mizoram CM, its more of a "we cant do without BD" type dance. Tarun Gogoi otoh goes a bit hammer and tongs with the illegal immigration issue, modulo of course the corrupt machinery that is GoAssam.
It is also a good idea to get a picture of the riverine geography of WB border with BD. Only half the border roads have been sanctioned. The chars of WB are a hotly contested property. There is a belated realization in Tripura with the commies that running around with the BD brethren cant provide sustainable happiness. If you check out the body language of the Tripura CM and Mizoram CM, its more of a "we cant do without BD" type dance. Tarun Gogoi otoh goes a bit hammer and tongs with the illegal immigration issue, modulo of course the corrupt machinery that is GoAssam.
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muraliravi
Can you explain the 2nd layer of fencing? Also how are we going to defend the char areas which I guess are a major part of the 600 kms of unfenced riverine border that gets flooded during monsoons? If we are going to keep so much area unprotected then the whole purpose of a fence is defeated. Is there any proposal to floodlight the entire border like the Indo-Pak border?
On a more positive note the TFR of Bangladesh has come down to 2.3 in 2009 according to the
Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics.
Can you explain the 2nd layer of fencing? Also how are we going to defend the char areas which I guess are a major part of the 600 kms of unfenced riverine border that gets flooded during monsoons? If we are going to keep so much area unprotected then the whole purpose of a fence is defeated. Is there any proposal to floodlight the entire border like the Indo-Pak border?
On a more positive note the TFR of Bangladesh has come down to 2.3 in 2009 according to the
Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics.
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Stan,Stan_Savljevic wrote:Murali, there was a report in the telegraph yesterday with a hint that BRO has been pulled to construct roads in the china border in sikkim. This was in the context of BRO pulling from NH 16 construction in Chattisgarh and MP border areas, the only "inside border" duty for BRO. That may also explain why the whole machinery has perhaps put the bd border to second rung interest for the time being. Nepal border fencing is NOT imminent, not till the levers of power in the South Block view the Terai region as more of an extension of UP. And especially with GJM going hammer and tongs in Gorkhaland [recall Jyoti Basu defending Nepali language] and Buddhadeb feeling the heat in Dooars et al., fencing on that side of the Nepal border is even less imminent.
It is also a good idea to get a picture of the riverine geography of WB border with BD. Only half the border roads have been sanctioned. The chars of WB are a hotly contested property. There is a belated realization in Tripura with the commies that running around with the BD brethren cant provide sustainable happiness. If you check out the body language of the Tripura CM and Mizoram CM, its more of a "we cant do without BD" type dance. Tarun Gogoi otoh goes a bit hammer and tongs with the illegal immigration issue, modulo of course the corrupt machinery that is GoAssam.
Can you send me the link to the telegraph report. What is "we cant do without BD type dance". Are u referring to migrant workers or the country as such.
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The 2nd layer of fencing is just a rudimentary sencond layer, in case miscreants cut the 1st layer or it gets damaged due to adverse climatic conditions. It makes sense in such remote areas and where it is prone to flooding. Riverine borders are as such from a engineering perspective, not that difficult to at least partially control IMHO. But lets see, for now all we use are boat trackers. But I would not think that the whole fence purpose is defeated. It does help to control movement of people to some extent. It is a different issue that smugglers and terrorists can use rivers to cross, but at least the land fencing cuts some people out. Floodlighting is going on and I have numbers for that too, I shall add it to my file soon.Supratik wrote:muraliravi
Can you explain the 2nd layer of fencing? Also how are we going to defend the char areas which I guess are a major part of the 600 kms of unfenced riverine border that gets flooded during monsoons? If we are going to keep so much area unprotected then the whole purpose of a fence is defeated. Is there any proposal to floodlight the entire border like the Indo-Pak border?
On a more positive note the TFR of Bangladesh has come down to 2.3 in 2009 according to the
Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics.
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The 2nd layer of fencing is just a rudimentary sencond layer, in case miscreants cut the 1st layer or it gets damaged due to adverse climatic conditions. It makes sense in such remote areas and where it is prone to flooding. Riverine borders are as such from a engineering perspective, not that difficult to at least partially control IMHO. But lets see, for now all we use are boat trackers. But I would not think that the whole fence purpose is defeated. It does help to control movement of people to some extent. It is a different issue that smugglers and terrorists can use rivers to cross, but at least the land fencing cuts some people out. Floodlighting is going on and I have numbers for that too, I shall add it to my file soon.Supratik wrote:muraliravi
Can you explain the 2nd layer of fencing? Also how are we going to defend the char areas which I guess are a major part of the 600 kms of unfenced riverine border that gets flooded during monsoons? If we are going to keep so much area unprotected then the whole purpose of a fence is defeated. Is there any proposal to floodlight the entire border like the Indo-Pak border?
On a more positive note the TFR of Bangladesh has come down to 2.3 in 2009 according to the
Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics.
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CJI K G Balakrishnan is the same person who is arguing to exempt the office of the CJI from the RTI provisions. Read more about him in Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K._G._Balakrishnan.chetak wrote:Singha wrote:I saw good riddance to this recourse of lazy and uninspired investigators
Narco-analysis, brain-mapping illegal: SC
New Delhi, May 5 (PTI):
In a major blow to investigating agencies, the Supreme Court on Wednesday declared as ''illegal'' use of narco-analysis, brain-mapping and polygraph tests on suspects.
''We are of the considered opinion that no individual can be forced and subjected to such techniques involuntarily, and by doing so it amounts to unwarranted intrusion of personal liberty''" a bench headed by Chief Justice K G Balakrishnan said.
I have been saying that certain people elevated by vested interests to high constitutional positions like President, vice President and others have caused immense damage to our society.
When one aspires for further promotions, extensions based on such vested interests, thankfully it is not always possible that such aspirations will come true.
The body politic invariably takes a heavy blow due to the shenanigans of this privileged but misfit and ill motivated few.
Also read about the controversies. He does not come across as a man of great personal integrity
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http://www.telegraphindia.com/1100506/j ... 417893.jspmuraliravi wrote: Stan, Can you send me the link to the telegraph report.
No, the "body language" of Manik Sarkar or previously, DD Lapang and now Mukul Sangma.What is "we cant do without BD type dance". Are u referring to migrant workers or the country as such.
The case of Tripura is one of a land-locked state with huge immigration from WB and BD. The communist proclivities in Tripura as well as BD have as much to do with votebank politics as well as the softening of the Hindu right due to demographic change, which is as real as can be seen from here. For nothing else, I cant put 2 and 2 together in terms of the state of affairs in Tripura or the lackadaisical attitude in WB to the immigration pain. The same can be said for Assam, but Assam (at least AASU and its various clones that led to the ulfa mayhem) had their raison d etre in the immigration issue pre- and post-71. Mizoram is another case in point. It cant avoid immigration stress from BD, and that explains some kow-towing to the segment of the population that buys the various parties votes. But there may also be an issue in people of the Book-type synchronism here. In fact, the Lushai Hills broke away from Assam state in the 60s due to hugely discordant themes on language, religion etc. that continues to see different paths towards the ultimate destiny of the region at large and the NorthEast states in general. Such themes, while politically incorrect, are often seen in the case of NDFB or how the various NSCN groupings behave vis-a-vis GoI or how the Meitei vs. non-Meitei violence goes back and forth.
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Aah. In preparation for independence for western UP from the rest of India, I suppose. The pakis in our midst are the most toxic of all. A serious GOI whupping of this sorry ass's ass is overdue already.Uttar Pradesh cleric calls for independence in Jammu and Kashmir | http://bit.ly/c6nOTa
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Now tell me that India's talks with TSP and other national security related musing has nothing to do with psyche of Indian Muslims. I repeat again that I said in the TSP thread a while ago - Talks with TSP at S-e-S or Thimpu has everything to do with apeasement of IMs and not some super duper pressure of US.Hari Seldon wrote:https://twitter.com/praveenswamiAah. In preparation for independence for western UP from the rest of India, I suppose. The pakis in our midst are the most toxic of all. A serious GOI whupping of this sorry ass's ass is overdue already.Uttar Pradesh cleric calls for independence in Jammu and Kashmir | http://bit.ly/c6nOTa
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Human trafficking: Help of Interpol may be sought
A large number of Srilankan Tamils (around 30-35) have been detained by the police at Kollam, Kerala. These people were staying in a lodge, and were part of a group which was to be transported to Australia illegally. The king-pin of this human trafficking gang has bene arrested. Teams from KP SB CID, IB, MI are also interrogating the detained people as they are all Tamils from areas where LTTE was very strong. Initial reports say that these people used to come in by small launches to the Kerala coast. When nearing the coast the boat is scuttled (so that nobody knows that a boat has come in). Later these people would be taken to the high seas in another launch and moved into ships.
A large number of Srilankan Tamils (around 30-35) have been detained by the police at Kollam, Kerala. These people were staying in a lodge, and were part of a group which was to be transported to Australia illegally. The king-pin of this human trafficking gang has bene arrested. Teams from KP SB CID, IB, MI are also interrogating the detained people as they are all Tamils from areas where LTTE was very strong. Initial reports say that these people used to come in by small launches to the Kerala coast. When nearing the coast the boat is scuttled (so that nobody knows that a boat has come in). Later these people would be taken to the high seas in another launch and moved into ships.
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‘Supplier’ of satphones to terrorists flown to Delhi from Dubai
Seems to be a big catch!!!Dubai-based Indian national Sajjad Sheikh, who allegedly supplied satellite phones, wireless sets, explosives and detonators to terror outfits, was today extradited to India from the UAE and taken into custody by the Special Cell of Delhi Police.
Sheikh, who is in his 40s, was flown to the Indira Gandhi International Airport in Delhi from Dubai where he was arrested earlier this year. Indian and UAE agencies completed his extradition formalities last month. He was flown to Delhi on an Indian Airlines flight.
“We picked him up from the airport itself. He is in custody and is being questioned about other agents in India and abroad who supply timers, detonators, wireless sets and Thuraya satellite phones to terror outfits,” sources told The Indian Express.
It is alleged that Sheikh had been supplying satellite phones, wireless sets and explosives to terror outfits, including the Lashkar-e-Toiba, Harkat-ul-Mujahideen and Jaish-e-Mohammad, for the last 10 years.
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Seems like PC and the MHA has made another gross mis-step in first allowing Th. Muivah to step into his ancestral village in Manipur. Then, acquiescing to Okram Ibobi Singh's denial of the same due to Manipur's fears on the agenda of those spouting Nagalim. In all this drama, Th. Muivah is whipping a frenzy that ensures that everyone from the CM Neiphiu Rio to FGN to the NSCN clones (IM, K included) to Baptist groups to "civil society" groups {of whom there are always a dime a dozen} will converge on the common Meitei enemy. Not like they needed an excuse to converge on the Meiteis, as the discontent was just on the surface anyway. Now that the NSCN has more blood in the bank, fricking wonderful..... And PC Haldar's job got even easier.
http://www.assamtribune.com/scripts/det ... 1110/at044
Btw, if anyone has read Patricia Mukhim in the telegraph, her tone is one of "I know it all." Email correspondence with her has been bizarre to say the least. Certainly reminds me of one motormama who visits brf often, but would nt shut her derriere off lest it be exposed to rain, sun and wind.... http://www.telegraphindia.com/1100510/j ... 431270.jsp
[The only silverlining in all this is if UPDF will split up from NSCN's tutelage and attack the crap out of NSCN in Ukhrul, Chandel, etc. That will be sweet vengeance and good riddance to one oiseaule, courtesy another.]
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Otoh, Mahasweta Devi and Kabir Suman are challenging PC to arrest them for support to maoists. Advice to Shri PC from a no-name neanderthal outside Yindia with good wishes: Arrest them. Or else STOP yakking endlessly. ENOUGH talking please.
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In Jharkhand, a new splittist (from the maoists) grouping called Jharkhand Prastuti Committee (JPC) has been identified. Just at the same time, the "tribals"-loving JMM and the uber-confused dipwaps in BJP were trying to forge a coalition government. Yet again, now that Hemant Soren's mis-step has led to the mayhem that is now. In all this melee, the INC is sitting pretty and roftl-ing at the nonsense that is JMM. "Guruji" may have escaped once, but a cat can have only nine lives. Waiting for the electorate to administer a whiplash to the JMM. But then the alternatives in JVM (P) and INC are no fricking better. Caught truly between the devil Guruji and the deep chi-chi.
http://telegraphindia.com/1100511/jsp/f ... 434722.jsp
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Certainly, things aint fine on the Punjab axis:
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http://www.assamtribune.com/scripts/det ... 1110/at044
The correction course from the MHA seems to be:Meanwhile, NSCN-IM general secretary Thuingaleng Muivah said if New Delhi could not resolve the deadlock in Manipur, then his people would find a way, according to Telegraph. He also expressed doubts on the viability of the Center’s approach of finding a solution at “one go”. “Nagas can react, but we have patience. But (if they do not resolve the situation in Manipur) they will know what the Nagas can do again, they will see what the NSCN can do,” he said. “They said defer your visit two or three days is fine, so I stayed here. But we have told them there would be no postponement (calling off the visit),” he said.
All this makes me ask: why wont Shri Yama Dharmaraja visit oiseaules such as Th. Muivah or SS Khaplang or Isaac Chwu? Why???The Union Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) taking serious note of the situation in Manipur and Nagaland over the move by Th Muivah, general secretary of the National Socialist Council of Nagalim (I-M), to visit his native village Somdal in Ukhrul district of Manipur, asked the NSCN leader to put on hold his proposed visit. Highly placed official sources said that the Home Ministry has conveyed its stand to Muivah, who is camping in a village near the Nagaland-Manipur borders through a special messenger and he has accepted the request of the Centre. Sources said that Muivah is likely to return to the NSCN headquarters in camp Hebron shortly.

Btw, if anyone has read Patricia Mukhim in the telegraph, her tone is one of "I know it all." Email correspondence with her has been bizarre to say the least. Certainly reminds me of one motormama who visits brf often, but would nt shut her derriere off lest it be exposed to rain, sun and wind.... http://www.telegraphindia.com/1100510/j ... 431270.jsp
[The only silverlining in all this is if UPDF will split up from NSCN's tutelage and attack the crap out of NSCN in Ukhrul, Chandel, etc. That will be sweet vengeance and good riddance to one oiseaule, courtesy another.]
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Otoh, Mahasweta Devi and Kabir Suman are challenging PC to arrest them for support to maoists. Advice to Shri PC from a no-name neanderthal outside Yindia with good wishes: Arrest them. Or else STOP yakking endlessly. ENOUGH talking please.
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In Jharkhand, a new splittist (from the maoists) grouping called Jharkhand Prastuti Committee (JPC) has been identified. Just at the same time, the "tribals"-loving JMM and the uber-confused dipwaps in BJP were trying to forge a coalition government. Yet again, now that Hemant Soren's mis-step has led to the mayhem that is now. In all this melee, the INC is sitting pretty and roftl-ing at the nonsense that is JMM. "Guruji" may have escaped once, but a cat can have only nine lives. Waiting for the electorate to administer a whiplash to the JMM. But then the alternatives in JVM (P) and INC are no fricking better. Caught truly between the devil Guruji and the deep chi-chi.
http://telegraphindia.com/1100511/jsp/f ... 434722.jsp
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Certainly, things aint fine on the Punjab axis:
Three youths were detained in Jammu on May 10 for their suspected links with Bindranwale Tiger Force (BTF) militant outfit, reports The Hindu. Acting on inputs provided by arrested BTF militant Trilochan Singh Locha, a Punjab Police team arrived in the city in the night of May 9 and raided some houses in Satwari and Miran Sahib areas and took the three youth in custody. The detained youth have been identified as Kulbir Singh, Kalamdeep Singh and Nahar Singh. Kashmir Times, however, reported that the youths belonged to the Khalistan Zindabad Force (KZF) outfit.
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/unc ... 60795.htmlA car with two kg of explosives was found abandoned near a busy railway station here Saturday, police said. The vehicle carried a fake Delhi registration number. “The car (DEA 5554) was found near the crowded station,” Amritsar police Commissioner Varinder Kumar Sharma told IANS.
Although, so far, no particular terrorist outfit has taken the responsibility, police believe this incident was part of the attempt of Babbar Khalsa International (BKI) and Khalistani Liberation Force (KLF) elements to revive terrorism in Punjab. Notably, it is the third such incident in the recent times. Earlier, in January this year, an explosive device was found in a Maruti car near Indian Air Force’s (IAF) Halwara base in Jagraon town. Again in January, two grenades were discovered near an IAF station near Zirakpur town. In the same month, a bomb was found outside an Indian Oil liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) bottling plant in Nabha town in Patiala district. Senior police officials have expressed apprehensions over the re-grouping of various terrorist organisations in the state. On April 24, two Pakistani intruders were gunned down by police in Norat Jaimal Singh area of Gurdaspur district after a fierce gun battle that left two police personnel dead and one injured.
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The Intelligence Bureau (IB) on May 9 warned that Naxals (Left Wing Extremists) are planning a major offensive in Gadchiroli District, reported IBN Live. The report also points out that most national highways despite being metalled have been heavily mined by the Naxals and the bombs can be triggered even after several months depending on the target or opportunity. Contractors have reportedly been coerced into planting the mines on the national highway passing though the areas dominated by the Naxals.
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Paging murali ravi,
Musabani to host security hubs
http://telegraphindia.com/1100512/jsp/j ... 439157.jsp
Sarba to move SC on foreigners’ issue
These NSCN choo**** truck around with the maoists, muslim rebels, share training and apparatus with UPDF, NDFB, LTTE, etc., just to name a few. And then want to visit their native town in Manipur. The Th. Muivah character had been in Netherlands for the last 30+ years. What gives these fcking choo** the balls to demand to be treated like a citizen of this country when they do what is constitutionally illegal? Is it the support of the chinis or the gora choo***?
Thanks to B’deshis, fake notes are a roaring business
http://www.sentinelassam.com/mainnews/s ... pr=1#35893
http://telegraphindia.com/1100512/jsp/n ... 436923.jspThe Union home ministry has now rescheduled its deadline for the completion of border fencing along the 269km long border in Assam with Bangladesh to April 2012.
The BSF has decided to gear up its vigil along Mizoram’s 318km hilly and jungle-infested borders with Bangladesh to stem infiltration. BSF director-general Raman Srivastava, who flew to Aizawl on Thursday for an on-the-spot review as well as surveillance of BSF troops assured chief minister Lalthanhawla that there would be more deployment of forces along the border in Mizoram.
Musabani to host security hubs
http://telegraphindia.com/1100512/jsp/j ... 439157.jsp
Sarba to move SC on foreigners’ issue
http://www.assamtribune.com/scripts/det ... y1210/at03Talking to The Assam Tribune, Sonowal said that he had to fight a five-year legal battle in the Supreme Court for the scrapping of the IMDT Act, which was a major hurdle in the way of detection and deportation of foreigners from the state. But even after five years of scrapping of the Act, the situation had not improved mainly because of lack of sincerity on the part of the Centre and the State Government in dealing with the problem. He said that under the circumstances, he was planning to approach the Supreme Court again seeking justice.
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Sonowal further alleged that the Government was not interested in solving the problem of infiltration of foreigners and that was why no step had been taken to activate the tribunals to ensure speedy disposal of the cases under the provisions of the Foreigners' Act.
http://www.sentinelassam.com/mainnews/s ... pr=1#35887With a view to carrying out extortion drive, the NSCN (IM) recently provided arms training for about 30 Muslim youths from Barak Valley for three months at its headquarters Heborn camp. According to police sources, the team of Muslim youths was led by one Belaluddin. The Muslim youths were, however, not seen at the Hebron camp during the last couple of days.
These NSCN choo**** truck around with the maoists, muslim rebels, share training and apparatus with UPDF, NDFB, LTTE, etc., just to name a few. And then want to visit their native town in Manipur. The Th. Muivah character had been in Netherlands for the last 30+ years. What gives these fcking choo** the balls to demand to be treated like a citizen of this country when they do what is constitutionally illegal? Is it the support of the chinis or the gora choo***?
Thanks to B’deshis, fake notes are a roaring business
http://www.sentinelassam.com/mainnews/s ... pr=1#35893
Sources in Central Government intelligence agencies said that two kinds of threads were in use inside a fake note – white thread and green thread. The fake note with green thread is costlier for its striking similarity with the original one. Fake notes with green thread with a total face value of Rs 1 lakh is sold for Rs 60,000-70,000. The Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami (HuJI) is among the outfits that run this roaring business. The intelligence agencies are also aware of Pakistan’s involvement in the racket.
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The Centre is fully aware of the development, but has not taken any step so far to counter the challenge, sources said. The fake note racket is such that people hesitate when it comes to accepting notes of 500-rupee and 1000-rupee denomination! Will the Centre and the Assam Government, both led by the Congress, remain a mute spectator, guided solely by electoral considerations?
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Muivah’s Visit to Manipur: Steps towards a Meaningful Reconciliation ---- Namrata Goswami
IDSA COMMENT
Muivah’s Visit to Manipur: Steps towards a Meaningful Reconciliation ---- Namrata Goswami
Even more obvious is the fact that without including the Tangkhul Naga base in the larger Nagalim project, the present NSCN (IM) leadership possesses limited influence in Nagaland per se—particularly given that these areas are dominated by the Ao, Angami, Chakesang and Konyak Naga tribes whose loyalty to the NSCN (IM) is suspect.
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Stan Sir,
I just dont get it, why April 2012 to fence 269 kms. I mean of that 269 already 250+ is fenced barring dhubri and one more sector. I fail to understand why they need 2 more years for that. 1 month should be more than enough even with 50% effort since I understand that some forces are moved to China border. Something is going on that we are not figuring out. Moreover babu log at least (MHA) is putting pressure to fence this border soon and have been doing it. If it is riverine, they should openly say, that these sections cant be fenced, but deadline extension again and again for 19 kms simply baffling
I just dont get it, why April 2012 to fence 269 kms. I mean of that 269 already 250+ is fenced barring dhubri and one more sector. I fail to understand why they need 2 more years for that. 1 month should be more than enough even with 50% effort since I understand that some forces are moved to China border. Something is going on that we are not figuring out. Moreover babu log at least (MHA) is putting pressure to fence this border soon and have been doing it. If it is riverine, they should openly say, that these sections cant be fenced, but deadline extension again and again for 19 kms simply baffling
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shyamd wrote:Chidambaram has his way as National Intelligence Grid gets PM's okay..........Sources say finance minister Pranab Mukherjee objected to the proposal of NatGrid on the grounds that it will violate the privacy law. Defence minister AK Antony reportedly expressed reservations contending that the system of Joint Intelligence Committee, where all top notch intelligence agencies share information, was working satisfactorily; hence there was no need for a new body.
Chidambaram has been insisting on the creation of NatGrid on the grounds that a centralised data system is essential to fight terrorism and crimes in the country. A large number of investigating agencies, including Research & Analysis Wing (RAW), Intelligence Bureau, Directorate of Revenue Intelligence, Narcotics Control Bureau, Enforcement Directorate, Central Bureau of Investigation, Military, Air & Naval Intelligence, Customs, Directorate of Income Tax (investigation), and state police agencies have loads of information with them. However, there is no umbrella organisation to maintain centralised data. It takes weeks, if not months, to cull information.
“The NatGrid will provide a system of information to all the agencies about any person the moment a button is pressed,” he argued at the CCS meeting. Chidambaram managed to convince his cabinet colleagues that creation of NatGrid will go a long way in fighting terrorism. He argued that the country cannot pay the price in the name of privacy.
According to sources, the prime minister was convinced that such an agency will help security and intelligence agency in achieving the goals set to fight terror and reduce time taken to track criminals.
After NatGrid, Chidambaram’s next mission is to create the National Counter Terrorism Council (NCTC), an umbrella body to fight terror.
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Boss, what is the precise sector in assam that is behind in terms of fencing? Is it the one that runs through NDFB and DHD (Jewel Garlosa) controlled territories? I distinctly read a satp report on this. If so, the slowness is understandable. The BRO has lost quite a few men in these areas. For example, take this GoAssam assessment from August 2009:muraliravi wrote:Stan,
I just dont get it, why April 2012 to fence 269 kms. I mean of that 269 already 250+ is fenced barring dhubri and one more sector. I fail to understand why they need 2 more years for that.
http://www.assamgovt.nic.in/speech.aspIn view of the prevailing situation, the works of 4 laning of NH-53 taken up by the National Highway Authority of India has not progressed. Similarly, the progress of works of gauge conversion of the railways is also slow even though all the necessary security has been provided by the Government.
The tardiness in the North Cachar Hills District is due to the various Karbi and NC based terrorist outfits, none of which seem to be under total control. SATP's 2009 assessment is as follows:Assam has got international border with Bangladesh and Bhutan. Assam has international border with Bangladesh covering 247.72 km out of which 110 km are riverine border. Moreover, it has got 255 km of international border with Bhutan guarded by SSB. The international border of Assam and Bangladesh is mainly guarded by BSF covering Karimganj, Cachar and Dhubri districts having total of 92 BOPs. There is also second line of Defence BOPs manned by Assam Police and at present 12 such BOPs and two Tact HQ are functioning from the existing resources of Assam Police Border Organization.
The International Border Management is very crucial for the Internal Security of the country in the wake of support to the Terrorist / militant activities from across the border and also because of smuggling of arms and ammunitions from the neighbouring countries like Bangladesh and Myanmar to Assam and other North Eastern States. Effective vigilance is also necessary in the international border if we want to tackle the menace of fake Indian Currency notes which are being pumped from across the International Borders. The sealing of International Border is also crucial to check the infiltration of illegal immigration / foreigners into the State of Assam and the rest of the country. It is necessary to erect border fencing covering the complete length of Indo Bangladesh border to effectively check the infiltration, smuggling of Arms and FICN as well as entry and exit of the militants.
These kindsa incidents dont help either:All 27 Districts of the State reported militant activity in 2009, with the Karbi Anglong and North Cachar Hills Districts being the worst affected. In terms of activity, the BW was the most effective outfit in 2009, with ULFA and the National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB) following close behind. The Karbi Longri North Cachar Hills Liberation Front KLNLF and the All Adivasi National Liberation Army (AANLA) remained the principal peripheral militant groups.
In short, the projected time could well be the time needed to take control of these territories + fencing the border. May be the random back and forth in the GoI data can still be explained common-sensically.A dangerous nexus between politicians and militants came to light with the arrest of Mohit Hojai, the Chief Executive Member of the North Cachar Hills Autonomous Council, on charges of allegedly giving INR 10 million to two persons for purchasing arms for the BW. The case was referred to the National Investigation Agency (NIA). On November 17, NIA charge-sheeted Mohit Hojai and 13 others, including the BW’s ‘chief’ Jewel Gorlosa and ‘commander-in-chief’ Niranjan Hojai in this connection. The NIA also prayed before the court to summon Hojai, who is lodged in a designated camp after surrendering on October 2, 2009, along with other cadres of the outfit.