Craig Alpert wrote:Sky marshals may be grounded soon?
Really? That's very surprising! Would not have expected that, considering that their identities are to be kept confidential even from the Staff onboard, as one might never know who's involoved with the wrong people, but nonetheless, I would assume that this sorta thing would only happen in India! Identies leaked/known, being mistreated is something that the passengers should bring up for their own safety and someone oughta file a PIL in an Indian court to get this sort of shit sorted out!chetak wrote: These highly trained guys are often ill treated by all airlines.
They are not provided food and snacks like the other passengers and so sometimes stick out like sore thumbs if you know what to look for.
You can bet that the bad guys have already worked out ways to spot them out solely by the behavior of the cabin crew towards them
Craig Alpert wrote: Really? That's very surprising! Would not have expected that, considering that their identities are to be kept confidential even from the Staff onboard, as one might never know who's involoved with the wrong people, but nonetheless, I would assume that this sorta thing would only happen in India! Identies leaked/known, being mistreated is something that the passengers should bring up for their own safety and someone oughta file a PIL in an Indian court to get this sort of shit sorted out!
Okay, one you know WHERE the militants are, 2 you know that THEY ARE NOT locals, and 3 they are CROSSING the IB, so here's the MILLION $ QUESTION....Y NOT BOMB THESE B@$T@RD$ BEFORE AND DURING THEIR ADVENTURES OF CROSSING THE IB????? Use the $10mil HERONS on these JIHADISTS !!!!!ISLAMABAD: Militants have regrouped in large numbers in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir and are crossing the Line of Control to sneak into the Indian side of the Himalayan region, local residents and political leaders have said.
The militants have regrouped and launched jehadi activities in the Neelum valley on the Pakistani side of the LoC, local politician Arif Shahid said. Local residents and Shahid said the militants were not from PoK.
"Jihadi activities have been restarted during the last few weeks," said Shahid, the secretary general of the All Parties National Alliance.
"Most of the activities are concentrated in the Neelum valley along the LoC," Shahid told the BBC.
Shahid, who had visited the region with other APNA leaders, said the militants were based there in large numbers and had set up camps in the area.
"The men are not locals - they have long hair and beards. Most do not speak the local language," he said.
Residents of Neelum valley backed Shahid's assertions. "We are scared... The armed men are moving around the area and are trying to cross the border," a local resident said.
"We can make out from their appearances and languages they are not from any part of Kashmir," the resident said.
Shahid said he believed that militants are planning to sabotage ongoing peace negotiations between India and Pakistan.
"They have set up camps in the region and many are crossing the border... This is the start of another proxy war," he said.
Following a meeting between Pakistan Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and his Indian counterpart Manmohan Singh last month, the Foreign Ministers of the two countries recently agreed to meet in Islamabad on July 15 to nudge the peace process forward.
Shahid's comments were supported by Jammu and Kashmir National Liberation Front leader Shaukat Maqbool Bhat. "The fighters are there and they are regularly crossing into India," Bhat said.
"The local people are very scared - they believe the (militant) crossings are going to restart artillery exchanges between the Pakistani and Indian armies," Bhat said.
Indian and Pakistani troops regularly fought artillery duels and exchanged small arms fire till a ceasefire was put in place along the LoC in November 2003.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Indi ... 924130.cmsTranscripts of her interrogation show how Jamshed and his superior, Mudassar Rana of Pakistan's Intelligence Bureau (a batchmate of Pakistan's interior minister Rahman Malik), worked on her strong sense of grievance against the ministry of external affairs to compromise her. Asked what led her to betray her country, Gupta bluntly told her interrogators that "they (Pakistanis) gave me recognition".
Gupta, who wanted to convert to Islam but was discouraged by her stubborn mother, was seething with anger against the MEA for being forced to go on leave without pay for close to two years, beginning 2002. The IFS-B officer had applied for two years' sabatical to complete her doctorate on Sufi Islam. Though she proceeded on leave even after her application was turned down, the resultant loss of salary required her to cut down on her lifestyle. The junior IFS functionary, who was fond of good things in life, never forgave her superiors for that.
While this may sound like a familiar chapter out of many a spy story, government functionaries also see the Gupta affair as illustrating a costly blunder by the MEA. That the ministry deviated from the long-standing policy of not posting a single woman in Pakistan is clear, though it has successfully dodged a deeper probe into the lapse.
The lapse looks all the more glaring because Gupta, with her intense grudge against the MEA, was ripe for "defection". What is not known is that the Indian high commission, which is supposed to be a highly regulated establishment in which staffers do not enjoy unfettered access to outsiders, had no clue of Gupta having been compromised. That too when Gupta would change cars and take taxis to reach the safehouse of Pakistan's IB in Islamabad.
http://telegraphindia.com/1100516/jsp/n ... 454528.jspIf the police cannot file a chargesheet within 90 days of her arrest, the court is likely to grant bail. The sanction rule is meant to protect judges, magistrates and public servants from frivolous prosecution, or to avoid prosecution if that is deemed not to be in the public interest — as may well happen in the case of an alleged mole.
In case the foreign ministry decides it is too risky to prosecute Gupta, whose remand hearings are being held behind closed doors, it has to let her off with, perhaps, a “punishment posting” following a departmental inquiry. So far, the ministry has not suspended her or taken any other action.
NEW DELHI: Kashmiri terrorists and refugees from Jammu and Kashmir in PoK have both received a pay hike. According to the latest inputs from various agencies, Pakistani authorities are now offering terrorists coming to fight in J&K a monthly salary in the range of Rs 8,000 to Rs 10,000. This is a huge jump from the average pay of Rs 5,000 they were getting earlier.
The reason for this benevolence is not hard to imagine. There has been a drastic drop in violence levels in J&K and militancy needs a desperate revival if the separatist agenda has to continue to grab global attention. The number of terrorists operating in J&K is now hovering around 700, an all-time low since militancy erupted in the state in the late 80s.
The desperation among terror groups is also visible in the return of Furqan, one of the seniormost Lashkar-e-Taiba operatives who had been the group's launch commander based in PoK for some years now. He infiltrated into J&K in April-end with a group but the Army was able to intercept them. Furqan is believed to have successfully evaded the Army and entered the state. His return, after more than four years, is being seen as a sign of LeT's desperation to carry out a few sensational attacks.
It is not just the Kashmiri militants who got pay hikes in recent days. Those staying back in refugee camps of PoK too have been given increased financial benefits. From Rs 1,800 per month, their financial allowance has gone up to Rs 2,400 a month early this year, sources said.
Thousands of Kashmiri youth have moved across the border to PoK in the past two decades for the explicit purpose of becoming trained militants. But many of them have stayed back in refugee maintenance camps run by the Pakistan government, some marrying local girls, and many starting small businesses. There are no clear numbers, but some estimates say as many as 30,000 could be in PoK, holding state subject facility cards which grants them certain rights.
While inflation is an obvious reason for the hike in monthly allowance for the refugees, the desire of many of them to return to India may have also been a reason for increasing the allowance, officials speculate. In 2007, when Indian government opened up a liberal surrender policy for Kashmir, almost 150 of them came back. After a year, the policy was tightened, but sources now say that they are looking at revising it. An exodus of these refugees from PoK to J&K would hit Pakistan's image, say officials.
Waqas Ahmad was among the hundreds of Lahore cricket fans who crossed the Wagah border five years ago to watch their country play India in New Delhi. The 2005 India-Pakistan series had been advertised as a historic event; the embodiment of hope that a new era of peace was about to dawn on South Asia. For most of the Lahore fans, the long journey was worth it: Pakistan registered a 159-run victory at the Feroz Shah Kotla stadium before tens of thousands of spectators, among them Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and President Pervez Musharraf.
But Ahmad didn't make the match — and never caught the train home. The story of the cricket fan who disappeared, improbably enough, holds out disturbing new evidence that Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate might have played a direct role guiding the Lashkar-e-Taiba's murderous, November 2008 attack on Mumbai.
LeT jihadist Mohammad Ajmal Amir Kasab's conviction by a Mumbai court this month has been hailed as bringing a closure, or at least something resembling it, to the kin of 164 people who were killed and the 308 injured in the carnage. Later this month, an anti-terrorism court in Rawalpindi will begin hearing prosecution arguments against seven men Pakistan's Federal Investigations Agency says helped to finance, facilitate and execute the attacks. It is unclear just when Judge Malik Akram Awan will deliver his verdict but many hope his judgment will not just serve justice but also help the fraught relationship between the two countries.
What it almost certainly won't do is reveal who engineered the carnage and why.
The Uttar Pradesh police located Ahmad last summer at Bithoor on the outskirts of Kanpur. Neighbours knew him as Rajesh Kumar. Ahmad had obtained a driving licence and a voter-identification card to support his ‘fiction,' the term spies use for their cover-identities. Investigators allege that Ahmad was a covert ISI operative, tasked with recording the movements of Indian military units. A grade X dropout, the 25-year old Waqas was recruited by the ISI, say the police. Following a year of training in spycraft, he was despatched to watch out for military movements across northern and western India.
For months, no one outside the intelligence community in New Delhi — and few within it — paid attention to Ahmad's story. He was, after all, a bit actor in the ISI's India operations. This spring, though, after the United States' Federal Bureau of Investigations began to share details of the interrogation of Pakistani-American jihadist David Coleman Headley, Ahmad's story gathered a startling new significance. The phone number he used to contact his handlers for funds, it turned out, was among those Headley had used to speak with three serving Pakistan Army personnel who, he told the FBI, had helped organise his mission to carry out the reconnaissance that would lead the Lashkar's assault team to its targets in Mumbai.
Islamabad reacted with anger to media accounts of Headley's claims about the ISI. But the case of the Kanpur spy suggests that a great part of the truth about Mumbai is either unknown to, or is being hidden from, Pakistan's civilian government.
Moral of story:From Headley's testimony to the FBI, it is evident that he was not the first Lashkar operative engaged to undertake reconnaissance in Mumbai. Before his first, September 2006 visit to India, Headley was shown a cardboard mock-up of the Taj Mahal Hotel and asked to conduct surveillance on its second floor, which, among other things, housed the closed-circuit television. Early on during the November 26, 2008 strikes, the attackers were able to locate the room and destroy the surveillance system — a move which successfully made efforts to track their movements in the hotel difficult.
In an April 13, 2009 questionnaire to investigators in India, the FIA sought details of the alleged Lashkar operatives, Fahim Arshad Ansari and Sabahuddin Ahmed. No further requests for information on the two men followed. First held in February 2008 on charges of facilitating multiple terrorist operations, the two men have since been cleared of the Mumbai-related crimes. Likely, the FIA knew they were innocent all along. Had the U.S. not held Headley, the truth might never have emerged.
The second major gap in the FIA investigation is this: it tells us next to nothing about Lashkar commanders who used satellite phone connections and voice-over-Internet connections from a still-undetermined location in Pakistan. FIA analysts, the July dossier states, determined that three suspects — Riaz, Sadiq and the still-fugitive Mohammad Amjad Khan — were in contact with one another, and with an unidentified cellphone number, through the attacks. The assault team also called the unidentified number from a satellite phone. Jamil Ahmad and Anjum, the FIA says, helped to acquire this satellite phone. But the FIA is yet to tell the world who used the unidentified number, who was in the control room and where it was.
By the FIA's account, the communication cell was controlled by Mazhar Iqbal, using the code-name ‘Zarar Shah.' Pakistan has, however, refused to give India voice samples which would establish whether Iqbal was indeed among the individuals guiding the assault team. The Indian authorities have also been denied photographs of Wajid, which would allow the Mumbai police to confirm his identity. Nor has the FIA offered information on a Hindi-speaking suspect, likely an Indian national, who helped to guide the attack.
Thirdly, the FIA investigation offers little insight into the training of the assault team. The July dossier offers no detailed account of the camps in Pakistan-administered Kashmir and Lahore where the team was trained. Nor has the FIA been able to arrest other jihadists who trained with the group. Pakistan claims it has been unable to locate the key Lashkar operative,Muzammil Bhat, who is alleged by the Mumbai police to have overseen the training of the group. But in December 2009, journalists Adnan Khan and Michael Petrou, reporting for the Canadian magazine, Macleans, located Bhat at a Lashkar facility near Muzaffarabad. “He was in constant contact with our brothers carrying out the attack,” a Lashkar operative they interviewed said, “[h]e was giving them instructions as the operation progressed.”
Finally, Pakistan's July 2009 dossier dealt at some length with the question who financed the attacks — but the FIA has chosen not to prosecute most of those who put up the cash. Sadiq and Jamil Riaz, the FIA found, had admitted to having opened accounts with the Mehran Cooperative Bank and the Allied Bank branches in Karachi. The FIA investigators found, the dossier states, “that various LeT activists and office-bearers transferred funds to their account from Khanewal, Gujranwala, Multan, etc., for terrorist activities and operations in Mumbai.” None of those office-bearers has, however, been charged with this crime.
Last week, the former Indian diplomat, Chinmaya Gharekhan, called on the government to test Pakistan's commitment to act against anti-India terrorists by using “quantifiable criteria which can be spelt out.” Pakistan's willingness to fill the gaping holes in its investigation will clearly be key to these criteria.
Which Political party / politicians need to be put under surveillance
All , they all had good relation with the big man from time to time and it did not ended post 1993 Mumbai bombing , infact many of the key political figures from ruling elite will be happy if he is not caught or gets killed so that he takes their secret to his grave.Vivek Raghuvanshi wrote:
Any suggestions?
With Chinese and other online espionage agents regularly breaking into Indian computer systems, defence minister A K Antony on Monday asked the top military brass to ensure the country's cyber systems were "as secure and non-porous as possible''.
"Today, no single service can work in isolation. Cyber-warfare and threats to cyber-security are fast becoming the next generation of threats. We need to make our cyber systems as secure and as non-porous as possible,'' he added.
This comes soon after it was discovered that some classified data about the tri-service Andaman and Nicobar Command and other formations had leaked after an Army major's personal computer was accessed by online espionage agents from Pakistan earlier this year.
China, too, has made cyber-warfare one of its topmost military priorities, with Chinese hackers regularly breaking into sensitive computer networks of India as well as other countries like US, UK and Germany.
Dr Saraswat (DRDO) points to exclusive work to counter Chinese cyber-warfare...Kailash wrote:Make cyber systems secure, Antony tells Army top brass
With Chinese and other online espionage agents regularly breaking into Indian computer systems, defence minister A K Antony on Monday asked the top military brass to ensure the country's cyber systems were "as secure and non-porous as possible''.
Asked to comment on apprehensions that the Chinese had intruded into our computer networks, he said that all countries were exposed to the threat of cyber warfare due to proliferation of the internet. A variety of tools were being developed by the DRDO to counter cyber warfare while a lab in Bangalore was working exclusively on improving network security.
Dr. Saraswat expressed the view that increased production of electronic components within the country as also stringent screening of electronic parts and equipment being imported from other countries would go a long way in reducing the risk of external agencies playing with our security systems.
anmol wrote: What is the harm from choraoing from chor ? Why should only they have all chori ka maal ??
Very true saar.Austin wrote:All , they all had good relation with the big man from time to time and it did not ended post 1993 Mumbai bombing , infact many of the key political figures from ruling elite will be happy if he is not caught or gets killed so that he takes their secret to his grave.Vivek Raghuvanshi wrote:
Any suggestions?
New Delhi, May 19 (PTI) India has to step up on its cyber offensive to match Chinese and Pakistani hackers breaching the Indian cyber networks, says Ankit Fadia, the man who made his name as India's youngest and first certified ethical hacker.
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The Delhi Police last week formally wrote to the Ministry of External Affairs listing these emails and handed over the 358 pages of data recovered seeking opinion of how the information contained could be categorised. Significantly, the letter from the Delhi Police states that information contained in the emails “seem to contain sensitive/secret information” and a formal reply has been sought from them on whether the contents of the emails could be categorised as 1) classified 2) prejudicial to safety and security of the State 3) useful to an enemy country and 4) dealing with the defence and security of the country.
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Her interrogation and mails have thrown up interesting facts:
*Gupta told her interrogators how her bosses in the High Commission sent her out to get a copy of Jaish-e-Muhammed leader Maulana Masood Azhar’s book on jehad to “unsafe localities” of Karachi.
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*There is one email which reportedly gives a strong indication of a romantic relationship between the diplomat and Jamshed, who was several years younger than her. Gupta had evidently even asked him to accompany her on a trip to Istanbul. He had, however, declined the offer since he did not get permission from his bosses.
*Gupta’s admissions and a scrutiny of the emails show that she was sending weekly, fortnightly and monthly reports to Rana, which he was evidently handing over to his bosses. Part of the reports — the portions dealing with coverage from the Urdu press — were a modification of what the Second Secretary prepared routinely for the Indian High Commission and the rest was what is being described as “soft intelligence” containing details of meetings, delegation visits, travel itineraries and telephone numbers of officials of the Indian High Commission.
NEW DELHI: In a major breakthrough in the Naval war room leak case, one of the main accused Ravi Shankaran, a close relative of the then Naval Chief Admiral Arun Prakash, was arrested in London.
"He has been arrested by the police in London and is at present out on bail. We have moved papers for his extradition," CBI Director Ashwani Kumar said.
46-year old Shankaran, against whom an Interpol Red Corner notice was issued in 2006, is one of the main accused who had allegedly passed on vital information to certain arms dealers for procurement for Indian Navy.
He was declared a proclaimed offender in 2006 with the government revoking his passport and approaching a UK court for his arrest. However, he had managed to give a slip to London Police and was believed to have been roaming in countries like France, Italy and Denmark.
An Armyman and his relative have been arrested in Kutch district by the Gujarat Anti-Terrorist Squad (ATS) on charges of spying and passing on Indian Army's confidential documents to Pakistan-based intelligence agencies, ATS officials said on Thursday.
Ibrahim Sama, recruited through the Military Engineering Service (MES), and his maternal uncle Osmaan Sama were arrested on Wednesday from Bhuj in Kutch, which has borders with Pakistan, on charges of spying and criminal conspiracy to disturb internal security, they said.
Confidential and sensitive documents of the Indian Army and some phone numbers of their Pakistani contacts, were recovered during searches conducted in the duo's houses, the officials said.
Both were produced before a local court in Bhuj, which sent them to nine-day police custody for further interrogation, they added.
The officials said that the ATS had received a tip-off that Sama used to get secret and confidential documents from the Army as he had an access to its base in Bhuj.
He used to send the confidential documents to his uncle Osmaan of Nana Dinara village in Bhuj, with the objective to pass it on to Pakistani intelligence agencies, they said.
Both have been booked under various sections of Official Secrets Act of illegal possession of confidential Army documents, and section 120 B (criminal conspiracy) of the Indian Penal Code (IPC), the ATS officials said.
. But good the scum is caught.sum wrote:How many freaking moles ( even if low level) does Pak have in India??They would be requiring a tonload of case officers to manage so many informers!!!
Wonder if our agencies are so super duper that there is never a mention of a "genuine" ( not the usual YYY ranting crowd allegations) Indian informer ever being caught/Indian spy ring coming to light in Pak...
Have you seen the fAQ. This is a fake site and uses false Human rights cause to raise fake movement. Read it carefully. It does not make any sense and this can explain why there are too many human rights NGOs inside India.ashdivay wrote:Anti-India Free Goa Site
What do others think of this ?
Regards
Ash
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agreed ! but this site is still being used in justifying argument by someone in Portugal who is constantly editing the "Invasion Of Goa" Article in wikipedia.comAcharya wrote:Have you seen the fAQ. This is a fake site and uses false Human rights cause to raise fake movement. Read it carefully. It does not make any sense and this can explain why there are too many human rights NGOs inside India.ashdivay wrote:Anti-India Free Goa Site
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Is wikipedia a authentic siteashdivay wrote:
agreed ! but this site is still being used in justifying argument by someone in Portugal who is constantly editing the "Invasion Of Goa" Article in wikipedia.com
FAKE or not ,this site is causing a little bit of a issue.
make the point that a personal website is not a valid source of information, convince the other editors. a better place for these discussions is the wikipedia edit thread, not this one.ashdivay wrote:Anti-India Free Goa Site
Hi all, I wish to bring to notice this Anti-India Site http://www.freegoa.com. The author claims India is denying human rights of Goan's. And People of Goa want freedom.
But after reviewing his site , it seems like it is his personal crusade/terrorism against State of India.
What do others think of this ?
Regards
Ash
It dont matter if we think wikipedia is authentic site or not, but thousands of other people from across the world use it as their source of information.Acharya wrote:Is wikipedia a authentic site
BR Forums setup is confusing. So give me a break !Rahul M wrote: make the point that a personal website is not a valid source of information, convince the other editors. a better place for these discussions is the wikipedia edit thread, not this one.
Thanks for the support. I have located the owner of the site. He is located in UK. From the outlook of the site it seems to be incomplete. The Owner seems to be from Goa.Now settled in UK. The site was created in year 2000 and will expire in 2014. Thats a long term effort by the owner to engage in Anti India Propaganda.Vivek Raghuvanshi wrote:James,
Ash has a point.
He extracted something on OSINT
Any website which spreads Anti - India activity requires to be monitored.
I guess RAW & IB get a salary for that.
So if Ash is providing information free, we must appreciate what ASH is trying to do.
Is Bharat Rakshak scared like the politicians?
WOW, big catch if Yasin Bhatkal is in the net.NEW DELHI: The Maharashtra anti-terrorism police are questioning a Karnataka resident they say may have been involved in February's bombing of a café in Pune, and in jihadist networks which have executed a series of urban bombings across India bombings since 2005.
Mangalore resident Abdul Samad Bawa was held by the Maharashtra police soon after his return from the United Arab Emirates, and flown to Mumbai for questioning. Government sources said India's intelligence services had worked closely with their counterparts in the UAE to secure Mr. Samad's return to India.
Police have been seeking Samad's brother, Mohammad Zarar Siddi Bawa, on suspicion that he may have played a central role in executing the German Bakery bombing.
Investigation sources say informants identified an individual filmed by the café's closed-circuit camera as Bawa. Bawa, also known as ‘Yasin Bhatkal', has been named as fugitive by authorities involved in the prosecution of members of a jihadist network called the Indian Mujahideen (IM), which carried out multiple urban bombings nationwide.
whats deff and dumb ?biswas wrote:I'm going to pose as a Paki on deff and dum and post that link.
It'll be hilarious.
The dubloo dubloo dubloo defence dot pee kay forumsashdivay wrote:whats deff and dumb ?biswas wrote:I'm going to pose as a Paki on deff and dum and post that link.
It'll be hilarious.