I agree..Sanku wrote:Jairam Ramesh is a distinguished alumnus of Indian Institute of Technology Bombay.
He also single handedly stopped the GoI from going ahead with GM brinjals.
He has said no river water diversion. He wants China to help India build dams in Arunachal.
He publicly took off his medieval christian priest robes used for convocation in a Indian university.
I have interacted with him -- He may be anything, but he is not dumb.
OT, but this cult/hero worship of JR must be broken.Sanku wrote: He also single handedly stopped the GoI from going ahead with GM brinjals.
Even as the Commerce and Industry Minister, Mr Anand Sharma, maintained that India has not violated any World Trade Organisation norm by prohibiting import of Chinese telecom equipment, the Department of Commerce has shot off a letter to the Department of Telecom (DoT) seeking clarity on the ban. The move is aimed at fool-proofing India's stand on the issue.
Official sources told Business Line that the letter from the Commerce Ministry to the DoT follows a complaint from the Economic and Commercial Counsellor's office in the Chinese Embassy that the recent procurement policy of the Ministry of IT and Communications is affecting Chinese companies.
The Commerce Ministry, which is the nodal body for international trade and WTO related issues, has told the DoT that since it holds regular meetings with the Chinese side as part of the India-China Joint Task Force and Joint Working Group meetings, it owes a plausible explanation to China on the matter.
It has also told the DoT that though the general reason for the ban could be security concerns, it needs specific grounds of the procurement policy to legally justify the Government's position, in case China challenges the ban at the WTO.
On Wednesday, Mr Sharma told reporters that, "We have never been in violation of WTO norms.
The decisions which we take are always keeping in mind the realities, India's role, and considerations not only from a trade perspective but also from a security perspective."
"These decisions have never been China-specific or any other country-specific ones. These are broad-based decisions. If the security agencies have their defined parameters of security clearances and approvals for equipment in sensitive sectors, then all those coming into India are expected to comply with those parameters," he said.
Official sources said India has told China not to "overreact" on the issue and has sought time to respond to their complaint as well as to amicably resolve the issue.
Huawei has told the Government that it is restructuring operations so that the chairman and board of directors of the local arm will all be Indian residents. The company claims that 85 per cent of its staff and nearly all of its R&D workforce are Indians.
This is the first major statement from any pro-Indian or separatist Kashmiri leader about China offering military assistance to Kashmiris. Senior separatist leader Mirwaiz Umar Farooq few months back met Chinese envoy in Geneva and sought Chinese government’s help in resolving the Kashmir dispute.
VinodTK wrote:China offered arms to Kashmiris to fight Indian soldiers
This is the first major statement from any pro-Indian or separatist Kashmiri leader about China offering military assistance to Kashmiris. Senior separatist leader Mirwaiz Umar Farooq few months back met Chinese envoy in Geneva and sought Chinese government’s help in resolving the Kashmir dispute.
Power capacity addition may trip on Chinese gear issues
Panel concerned at lack of vendor base.
Our Bureau
New Delhi, May 13
A high-level Government panel has warned of the possibility of an "energy security crisis" in the event of diplomatic differences with China arising in the future.
With well over 33,000 MW of new power capacity coming up using Chinese equipment, even as vendor support for spares and service is almost non-existent in India, the panel has concluded that a "Pokhran-like situation" could arise if bilateral relations turned sour in the coming years.
The failure to develop a local vendor base could lead to continued dependence on the Chinese for the entire life of the power station, the panel headed by Planning Commission member, Mr Arun Maira, has warned.
Spares and service costs are also exposed to higher uncertainty, the panel has concluded.
Besides, due to the intellectual property rights violations by Chinese suppliers, support from technological leaders from Europe and the US for upcoming supercritical sets will not be available in case of any technical problem, the report has said.
Of the 49 orders for supercritical sets awarded in the country so far, over half (26) have been secured by Chinese vendors.
Only 12 have been bagged by domestic manufacturers, with the remaining 11 going to international manufacturers from Russia, Korea and Japan. Steps to be taken
The Cabinet Secretary is slated to chair a meeting on May 25 to consider implementing recommendations of the panel. The report has also taken note of specific instances of malfunctioning of Chinese equipment deployed at various plants.
Besides, availability of manuals only in Chinese has also been cited as a major impediment.
Orders should be awarded after factoring in the life-cycle costs of Chinese equipment and not just upfront costs, the panel has said for future contracts.
Dekro; do you really think that MMS govt cares a fig for what comman man thinks? You think this dispenstion has even shown senstiviness to that? They are more into "do what you want and manage percepetions (spin) later" This govt can only be stopped by internal establishment resisting the Govt (Siachen for one)derkonig wrote:OT, but this cult/hero worship of JR must be broken.Sanku wrote: He also single handedly stopped the GoI from going ahead with GM brinjals.
JR did *not* stop BT Brinjal. Infact he acted like a PR agent for Monsanto.
An article that I came across tries to explainsum wrote:^^^ Could any guru kindly explain as to what is it with China and deranged men attacking kindergarten kids with knives?
Another such incident which happened yesterday was in the papers!!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100513/wl ... hoolunrestPhillips conducted a study last year that found 173 million Chinese suffered some sort of mental problem ranging from schizophrenia to alcohol abuse, and that 91 percent had never been treated.
China's national health system is widely pilloried as too costly, badly funded and marked by shoddy or indifferent treatment.
While I am no guru, the current rash of attacks seem more like copycat attacks.sum wrote:^^^ Could any guru kindly explain as to what is it with China and deranged men attacking kindergarten kids with knives?
Another such incident which happened yesterday was in the papers!!
On the desks of the heads of China's 50-odd biggest state companies, amid the clutter of computers, family photos and other fixtures of the modern CEO's office life, sits a red phone.
The red machine is like no ordinary phone. Each one has just a four-digit number. It connects only to similar phones with four-digit numbers within the same encrypted system. They are much coveted nonetheless. For the chairmen and women of the top state companies, who have every modern communications device at their fingertips, the red machine is a sign they have arrived, not just at the top of the company, but in the senior ranks of the Party and the government. The phones are the ultimate status symbol, as they are only given out—under the orders of the Party and government—to people in jobs with the rank of vice minister and above.
The phones are encrypted not just to secure party and government communications from foreign intelligence agencies. They also provide protection against snooping by anyone in China outside the party's governing system. Possession of the red machine means you have qualified for membership of the tight-knit club that runs the country, a small group of about 300 people, mainly men, with responsibility for about one-fifth of humanity.
The Party's defense of power is also, by extension, a defense of the existing system. In the words of Dai Bingguo, China's most senior foreign policy official, China's "number one core interest is to maintain its fundamental system and state security." State sovereignty, territorial integrity and economic development, the priorities of any state, all are subordinate to the need to keep the Party in power.
Since installing itself as the sole legitimate governing authority of a unified China in 1949, the Party and its leaders have placed its members in key positions in every arm, and at each level, of the state. All the Chinese media come under the control of the propaganda department... The police forces at every level of government, from large cities to small villages, have within them a "domestic security department," the role of which is to protect the Party's rule and weed out dissenting political voices before they can gain a broad audience.
The Party in China has eradicated or emasculated political rivals; eliminated the autonomy of the courts and press; restricted religion and civil society; denigrated rival versions of nationhood; centralized political power; established extensive networks of security police; and dispatched dissidents to labor camps. ... The Party itself suffered an existential crisis after the collapse of the Soviet Union and its satellite states in 1992, an event that resonates to this day in the corridors of power in Beijing. After each catastrophe, the Party has picked itself off the ground, reconstituted its armor and reinforced its flanks. Somehow, it has outlasted, outsmarted, outperformed or simply outlawed its critics.
In the end the key take away point: Nothing succeeds like success. PRC is successful at least so far in the goals that it has set out for itself and that is the best advertisement for its governance model or the lack of it.The implosion of the Western financial system, along with an evaporation of confidence in the U.S., Europe and Japan, overnight pushed China's global standing several notches higher. In the space of a few months in early 2009, the Chinese state committed $50 billion in extra funding for the International Monetary Fund and $38 billion with Hong Kong for an Asian monetary fund; extended a $25 billion loan to cash-strapped Russian oil companies; set aside $30 billion for Australian resource companies; offered tens of billions more to various countries or companies in South America, central and Southeast Asia, to lock up commodities and lay down its marker for future purchases. In September, China readied lines of credit of up to $60 to $70 billion for resource and infrastructure deals in Nigeria, Ghana and Kenya.
I met him at macloedganj couple of years back and he came out as sharp and off course opinionated. We sat down at Hotel maclo and i was introduced to him by a common friend. He has a world view based on the American model of economic success and thinks India has to make some sacrifices in order to wipe off the suspicions west carries.Sanku wrote:Jairam Ramesh is a distinguished alumnus of Indian Institute of Technology Bombay.
He also single handedly stopped the GoI from going ahead with GM brinjals.
He has said no river water diversion. He wants China to help India build dams in Arunachal.
He publicly took off his medieval christian priest robes used for convocation in a Indian university.
I have interacted with him -- He may be anything, but he is not dumb.
This is very subtle message delivered right under pig piladhel's nose"There is a consistent feeling in India that China is a friendly country," Yuan said adding that 33 per cent Indians said they believe China would over take US.
Mr. Yuan is trying to say to his own countrymen that Indians are not d0uches, so dont buy commie propaganda.None. ITI makes some but they are quite backward. Together with BSNL they are responsible for the 'wait three years for telephone and 3 hrs for dial tone' situation that India found itself in until BSNL monopoly was ended.biswas wrote:Regarding sourcing of telecommunication equipment from Huawei.
Are there any Indian manufacturers of such equipment?
Is there any reason why a Chinese manufacturer is preferred?
Huawei is a military controlled company from PRC. It came up only in the last 10 years when it took IP from Cisco and expanded. They have offices in california SV now.Suppiah wrote: Regarding sourcing of telecommunication equipment from Huawei.
Are there any Indian manufacturers of such equipment?
Is there any reason why a Chinese manufacturer is preferred?
There was a time when we could have done it (ie have local manf.) but now the whole technology, supply chain and logistics have moved so far ahead the chances are slim...the price we pay for having had urine drinking morons who declared that soap and toothpaste are luxuries.
The trend toward favoring Chinese-owned companies, Chinese and Western executives and economists say, has been driven by a powerful combination of economic nationalism and an evolving blend of capitalism and socialism.
Partly state-owned corporations, armed with lobbyists, have gained considerable influence over the state. Many Chinese executives are former party cadre members whose primary concern now is making a profit, not balancing long-term international policy considerations.
This has many multinational executives deeply worried. They say severe recessions and the near collapse of banking systems in many Western countries a year ago, coupled with China’s relatively robust economic performance, have persuaded Chinese policy makers that Western policies of free trade and open markets do not work as well as previously thought, and that new industrial policies are worth trying.
“They say, ‘Don’t show us broken models; we’re looking for a completely different way,’ and you see a much greater willingness to experiment with completely untested policies,” said a senior executive at a multinational who insisted on anonymity for fear of retaliation by Chinese regulators.
"Any rule should be fairly applicable to all companies including Indian, Chinese and western companies," Chinese Ministry of Commerce spokesman Yao Jian said at a briefing in Beijing. "India should provide an open, fair and transparent environment
Yao said the governments of the two countries should intensify "consultations and cooperation to address problems". The Indian government should also allow Chinese companies to proceed with the contracts that they have already won, he said.
"The Chinese have a very good quality of work," says Commodore Riaz. The naval officer is overseeing Chittagong's commercial port as it prepares for a transformation. "The time I spent in China was the best time of my life," he adds. As a senior naval officer, Commodore Riaz spent a year training at an elite Beijing military academy.
China has promised to fund the transformation of this coastline, which reports estimate will cost $9bn. The plans involve an ambitious new deep sea port further along the coast, and a motorway running all the way to China - via neighbouring Burma.
Both military and civilian aid coming from China is remarkably generous. Beijing has also recently forgiven all loans it made to Bangladesh before 2008.
In Beijing, India's fears are given short shrift. "During peace time, these kinds of facilities are only for commercial purposes," says Hu Sisheng, head of South Asia policy at the China Institute for Contemporary International Relations.{ Of course, did the reporter bother to ask what happens during the time of conflict? }
Bangladesh is also adamant that there is nothing in its plans to concern India. "I don't believe if China helps us build this sea port, that China will be able to use it for other purposes," I'm told by Dr Dipu Moni, Bangladesh's foreign minister. Bangladesh wants to be seen as a "bridge" from China to India{For a country which doesn't have a land/sea border with China and virtually surrounded from all sides by India this hope is beyond ridculous.}, and is careful not to offend either of its giant neighbours. "Bangladesh will never let any part of its territory be used for any kind of attacks or anything like that," she says.{By doing what? }
The funds for this bridge came from a Gulf country, and a Chinese firm has done the work. {Great nexus indeed! }
Most worrisome is the Chinese government mandate to replace core foreign technology in critical infrastructure -- such as chips, software and communications hardware -- with Chinese technology within a decade. The tools to accomplish this include a foreign-focused anti-monopoly law, mandatory technology transfers, compulsory technology licensing, rigged Chinese standards and testing rules, local content requirements, mandates to reveal encryption codes, excessive disclosure for scientific permits and technology patents, discriminatory government procurement policies, and the continued failure to adequately protect intellectual property rights. The poster child is the evolving "indigenous innovation" policy, which appears aimed at using China's market power to coerce foreign companies to transfer and license their latest technology for "co-innovation" and "re-innovation" by Chinese companies.
From Time to rethink U.S.-China trade relations By James McGregor
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 03551.html
People in the Tibetan capital of Lhasa will have to register their names if they want to make photocopies.
City shopkeepers say the authorities are particularly concerned about material printed in Tibetan. {ofcourse}
Individuals wanting to photocopy documents will have to show their ID cards and have the information recorded.
The police say they will carry out checks and punish any shop that does not abide by the new regulation.
The authorities say the change is aimed at stopping criminals carrying out illegal activities. {of course, what else? Who else are criminals but those who photocopy tibetan}
Now we know where to hit them when they make noise about Kashmiri visas and Arunachal visits.chaanakya wrote:India should not discriminate against our telecom products: China
"Any rule should be fairly applicable to all companies including Indian, Chinese and western companies," Chinese Ministry of Commerce spokesman Yao Jian said at a briefing in Beijing. "India should provide an open, fair and transparent environment
Yao said the governments of the two countries should intensify "consultations and cooperation to address problems
Can we ask Huawei to setup telecom equipments in Arunachal Pradesh /Twang , J&K ( mention in work order deliberately) first, once they get provisional security clearance ? One condition should be that to do business in IN they have to give clearance from PRC to operate in these areas as sovereign part of IN. If they fail, blacklist them.naren wrote:Now we know where to hit them when they make noise about Kashmiri visas and Arunachal visits."Any rule should be fairly applicable to all companies including Indian, Chinese and western companies," Chinese Ministry of Commerce spokesman Yao Jian said at a briefing in Beijing. "India should provide an open, fair and transparent environment
Yao said the governments of the two countries should intensify "consultations and cooperation to address problems
I read somewhere (couldn't find the source) that telecom equipment generates about $130bn. India's decision may contribute to negative branding and might prompt other countries to follow suit.
Then on the morning of 19 May, after a final gun battle lasting an hour, the bodies of 18 of the top Tiger leaders were found sprawled among the mangroves. Among them was the supreme leader, Velupillai Prabhakaran. The war was over.
It was a great victory, the emphatic end of a terrorist gang whom no one in their right mind would mourn. But it was achieved in the teeth of opposition from the US and its allies, and at appalling human and moral cost. How had it been allowed to happen?
The answer, in one word, is"China". When the US ended direct military aid in 2007 over Sri Lanka's deteriorating human rights record, China leapt into the breach, increasing aid to nearly $1bn (£690m) to become the island's biggest donor, giving tens of millions of dollars' worth of sophisticated weapons, and making a free gift of six F7 fighter jets to the Sri Lankan air force. China encouraged its ally Pakistan to sell more arms and to train pilots to fly the new planes. And, crucially, China prevented the UN Security Council from putting Sri Lanka on its agenda.
Pranav wrote:^^^ Well, India's role was not decisive, unlike China's.
Chinese fire-power was what was decisive in saving Sri Lanka.Stan_Savljevic wrote:Pranav wrote:^^^ Well, India's role was not decisive, unlike China's.