Indo-UK: News & Discussion

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 14 May 2010 11:50

brihaspati wrote: I also think Labour may make a surprising come back, before a full term.

extremely likely, unfortunately with mili-me in charge
clegg and cameron will fall out fairly quickly
ombaba remains sceptical, sarko and merkie are already firing warning shots
the interesting forecast remains that the impending round of public spending cuts will derail the incumbent ruling party for decades to come
labour are only doing taqiya at present

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 14 May 2010 21:07

Lalmohan wrote
i would say that mainstream british society remains fairly homophobic, or these days, perhaps more homoneutral.

I was recently visiting one uni on the west coast. in one dept, of the postgrads, roughly 1/4th were gay. This could be the result of the "star" factor, but there is something in the air and soil of the island. An Indian girl - a recent import into the dept - has promptly discovered "girls", an Indian guy has discovered that he is TS/tg. but most gays of both sexes appeared to be Brit-white.

I think the "neutrality" is encouraging more and more younger populations to "come out". Many gangs of young boys (and girls) enforce compulsory same-sex as group bonding/initiation/hazing rites. Some of these gangs force younger members to be the group service provider. This probably increases the brutality of the gang over the longer run.

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 15 May 2010 03:46

Britain to survive it needs to expand its business relationship with countries beyond EU borders. The new government in UK should engage with countries such as India, Brazil and other countries in terms of providing excellence in eco energy production and other business engagement particularly innovation and education. Indian government should also allow British workers to work in their own companies and educational institutions.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 15 May 2010 16:21

brihaspati wrote:
I was recently visiting one uni on the west coast. in one dept, of the postgrads, roughly 1/4th were gay

well if its a liberal arts course/faculty then hardly surprising. will be quite the opposite in science and engineering faculties. high tendency for macho rugby playing beer swilling girlie chasing 'heroics' where being gay is not considered very good, or these days just ignored

i think that more gays are open these days about being gay because there is no formal discrimination and improved levels of tolerance, which is not a bad thing, i doubt if overall proportions have changed very much over time

last month two teenage white girls were convicted of beating a gay middle aged man to death in trafalgar square in the heart of the city just because he was gay

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 15 May 2010 16:23

joshvajohn wrote:Britain to survive it needs to expand its business relationship with countries beyond EU borders. The new government in UK should engage with countries such as India, Brazil and other countries in terms of providing excellence in eco energy production and other business engagement particularly innovation and education. Indian government should also allow British workers to work in their own companies and educational institutions.

a french think tank couple of years ago concluded much the same for france, accepting that the US relationship will undoubtedly weaken over time as asia starts to dominate economically and politically

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 15 May 2010 17:06

Lalmohan wrote
well if its a liberal arts course/faculty then hardly surprising.

It is claimed to be one of the top maths departments in the world.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 15 May 2010 18:44

brihaspati wrote:
Lalmohan wrote
well if its a liberal arts course/faculty then hardly surprising.
It is claimed to be one of the top maths departments in the world.

in the west coast of the UK? highly unlikely to be one of the top maths depts!

but i am surprised at the ratio. i wonder if there are other factors at work in the locality/rest of university?

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 15 May 2010 22:44

^^no, no they are particularly good in certain branches of pure and applied maths, and also a top-ranker at the RA rankings. But that is sort of irrelevant. what intrigues me is that since I also visit several others regularly over more than a decade now, I do see a trend increasing. My colleagues there also report a gradual "opening up" among the students and naturally the "phobic" reaction also has intensified. In so many respects I get the impression of a society basically breaking down from inside. I also get more and more "updates" on Indian students. Which irritates me quite a lot, but I cannot give out the irritation for obvious reasons - since such updates are given specifically to watch my supposed "discomfort".

and surprise, surprise - certain faiths seem better represented in Indian-transition-in-UK scenario than others.

The gang hazing stuff infuriates me. a good bashing was all that the kids needed at the proper time. Instead they have been mollycoddled. It is also the fallout of overwhelming guilt at having been too"tough" in the past and "overdoing" it. So I guess they "underdo" a lot now. That society is in a lot of trouble. Moreover, it is exactly such societies where Islamists play at being more attractive with their promise of order and moral behaviour.

I have had a few encounters with neighbourhood gangs etc when I have stayed in unfamiliar places. But I usually take sufficient defensive protection if I go out at "ungodly" hours or to "ungodly" places. It is unlikely that I will get proper revenge and justice done if anything goes wrong, and moreover I cannot apply all I know to eliminate attackers - since the law and society and media will immediately become sympathetic towards the culprits (I would be a pagan, non-white, especially Indian with attackers most likely to belong to one of the two proselytizing branches of the truth-monopolists), and I will end up the villain.

I think in the future, Indian youth should try and stay away from UK as educational and employment destinations, as they have no "value-addition" potential. Moreover the UK scenario will get increasingly violent and subversive towards at least two communities - Indian and Russians. The Paki-Islamists are merely like Dobermanns or German Shepherds kept by their Brit masters as vicious beasts to initimidate others. They have been deliberately chosen because of their low intelligence levels, dependence on a "master", and their bloodthirstiness - to serve as effective tools. This is the reasons, I believe, the Islamist-British love-fest is not going to end.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 15 May 2010 23:12

brihaspati wrote: Moreover the UK scenario will get increasingly violent and subversive towards at least two communities - Indian and Russians. The Paki-Islamists are merely like Dobermanns or German Shepherds kept by their Brit masters as vicious beasts to initimidate others. They have been deliberately chosen because of their low intelligence levels, dependence on a "master", and their bloodthirstiness - to serve as effective tools. This is the reasons, I believe, the Islamist-British love-fest is not going to end.

This is what we have been discussing in BRF for a long time.
In the subcontinent the Islamist also serve the same purpose. They negotiate for the peace of the sub continent on behalf of the entire sub continent including India. They will hold blackmail of destruction if they are not given similar treatment such as nuclear deal, UNSC and want to be leader of the sub continent.
The Paki Islamists are kept in a tight leash by the UK and are allowed to fire only when they are told to.
India also knows that Pakistan is just a gun but the actual trigger hand is somewhere else.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 16 May 2010 00:24

Do you people really believe that the British are in control of their Pakbarian Dobermanns? The Dobermanns have inbred with the stray variety in Pureland and have created a unique breed of rabid dogs who are out of control, specially the young puppies, they are gone case as the only dream that they can live is the dream of 72

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 16 May 2010 00:27

Mahendra wrote:Do you people really believe that the British are in control of their Pakbarian Dobermanns?

Not all. But there is long association from the afghan war with islamists group and they are free to travel to UK for the last 35 years.

surinder · Post by **surinder** » 16 May 2010 00:54

brihaspati wrote: (I would be a pagan, non-white, especially Indian with attackers most likely to belong to one of the two proselytizing branches of the truth-monopolists),

Gotta love you, Brihaspati, for such gems!!!

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 16 May 2010 01:21

Jupiter saab, the truth that dare not speak its name in the West generally is that 'Indians are just like us". I believe you are being unduly alarmist.

I do not mean to include the PWT, be it inclusive of two or three standard deviations of the populace. They count for little in the class calculus of power in Britain.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 16 May 2010 01:32

the trouble with conspiracy theories is that it implies that the conspirators are actually quite intelligent... that is very rarely the case

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 16 May 2010 02:45

No, I am not being alarmist. I have personally received excellent treatment at most places on that island. as long as I am within the academic/uni ambience. But at night, etc, (and because I always took GHQ/SHQ with me, for nighttime forays), I have faced some "infuriating" behaviour. Once or twice, I had gone back alone to these areas to entice and deal with the problem in the way I know from experience to be the only effective one (I hold personally to the zero tolerance policy) - but for obvious reasons even GHQ/SHQ cannot be kept as a witness. Some of these fellows will never again be able to wield the stuff they waved.

I was not indulging in a conspiracy theory actually. My reco comes from my trying to search for patterns in national policy and actual implementation or behaviour - irrespective of whatever pious rants come out of the hallowed lips of the mandarins of Westminster. I have clearly indicated that the main criminality for profit fun remains firmly in Brrit-white-Christian and Euro-allies. The Islamists are way behind and only foot-soldiers.

Instead of conspiracies, I can see that a great degree of tolerance is being extended to the Sunni-Wahabi KSA sponsored sphere of Islamism in UK. What are targeted are any Islamism that may appear to go in favour of Shia-Iran - like, curiously but understandably, pro-Palestinian-independence anti-Israel demos. There is an ongoing effort to brush up the Paki image from the establishment side (cooption of the lady in a gov position). This is consistent with the long term, ideological/racial/psychological British obsession with the desert/Arab/Sunni as opposed to the more "cultured" and sophisticated Islam of Turkey or Iran. Probably because these are too strong in their own cultural claims of superiority for the Brits to muzzle and use them as Dobermanns. I see the Pakistani and BD variety of mosques proliferating at an accelerating rate, pre-existing ones being refurbished and extended, with capacities being increased along other Islamic institutions. All, ALL however from the two subcontinental sections most rabidly against India.

The reco about education comes from direct personal experience of having to teach when I visit. Undergrad levels are comparable to competent institutions in India, and the best here sometimes falls behind the advanced institutes of India. Moreover, after getting these degrees, they do not appear to give any advantage in the job market here - but only back in India. non-EU economic migrants are going to be restricted more as already declared - which obviously includes the two countries producing high proportions of brains, India and Russia.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 16 May 2010 06:22

Some of these fellows will never again be able to wield the stuff they waved.

By Jove, I hope they were not waving anything personal at you.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 16 May 2010 07:50

hmmm so the thinking is the british elites want to graduate up to managerial levels of neo-colonialist enterprise while grooming the arab/pak/bd horde to curry influence in their host societies and "keep a foot" in the most fluid and troublesome zone of the world? they probably figure - lacking any direct leverage on india and china, the presence of these proxies could be used as a lever both to introduce themselves as mediators or to hold a implied threat of "give us the goodies, or else we unleash the dobermans" ?
Sher khan seems to be following a similar policy of surrounding china, india, russia with militant and dirt poor hordes kept on political and financial life support.

kittoo · Post by **kittoo** » 16 May 2010 08:25

Prem wrote:I found something on 1857 event

Charles Dickens: "I wish I were commander-in-chief in India ... I
should proclaim to them that I considered my holding that appointment
by the leave of God, to mean that I should do my utmost to
exterminate the race."

This is the complete quote-
"I wish I were a Commander In Chief in India. The first thing I would do to strike that Oriental Race with amazement....should be to proclaim to them that my holding that appointment by the leave of God, to mean that I should do my utmost to exterminate the race upon whom the stain of the late cruelties rested; and that I was there for that purpose and no other, . . .now proceeding, with all convenient dispatch and merciful swiftness of execution, to blot it out of mankind and raze it off the face of the Earth."

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 16 May 2010 08:29

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/698 ... -face.html

In Britain, Indian shooters face harassment
Bangalore, May 15, DH News Service:

Shades of colonial arrogance reared its ugly head in Dorset when India’s shooters, preparing for the ISSF World Cup on Sunday, were harassed and ill-treated by a bus driver and his supervisor.

Trap champion Manavjit Singh Sandhu said a bus supervisor threatened the team with dire circumstances. Clearly rattled by the second such incident in three days, the manager of the Indian team, M Padmanabhan, filed an official complaint with the Indian High Commissioner in London, seeking his “support and assistance” and making it clear that the incidents are “sure to affect the shooters’ concentration and thus their performance.”

The shooters were in the process of returning to their hotel from the Southern County Shooting Ranges in Dorset at 2.35 pm local time (8.05 pm IST), with world trap champion Manavjit Singh Sandhu and Birendeep Singh amongst the last to board the bus.

The driver slammed the door shut before Birendeep boarded the bus, ostensibly because he had arrived late. It is learnt that Sandhu pointed out that Birendeep had been just a step behind him, an appeal that fell on deaf ears.

When Sandhu and the other shooters objected strongly, the driver took them to the supervisor of the transport department, one Mike, who “yelled and screamed at our shooters and insulted them,” Padmanabhan wrote to the High Commissioner.

“He was very, very rude and threatened the team with dire circumstances. He then addressed our Indian World Champion and Rajiv Gandhi Khel Ratna, Manavjit Singh, and told him to get off the bus,” Padmanabhan added.

“Mr Mike then threatened him by saying the Indian team will not be allowed to take the bus tomorrow morning. Tomorrow is competition day and naturally the shooters are very upset.”

Two days earlier, the same transport department had forced two women shooters, Shreyasi and Shagun, to get off the bus. “They were humiliated in front of all other competing nations,” Padmanabhan wrote.

“We are feeling very harassed and cannot believe we are being treated this way. The morale of the team is extremely low on account of this and is sure to affect their concentration and thus performance.

“We request that you may take this matter up with the Organising Committee of the ISSF World Cup, Dorset.”

Anger, outrage and extreme disillusionment are the dominant emotions in the Indian camp in the UK at the moment.

How that will affect their performance on Sunday is anybody’s guess.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 16 May 2010 17:45

Sports Ministry to take up shooter's harassment in the UK

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 16 May 2010 19:30

Organizers apologize to Indian shooters

anmol · Post by **anmol** » 16 May 2010 22:10

Apology isn't enough, the Indian shooters should file a lawsuit against the organizers and transport officials for hate crime and attempt to cause physical and emotional harm. For sports-people their bodies are their livelihood and any harm to their bodies could have destroyed their careers. And by slamming doors on them they attempted to harm them physically. We should also attempt to bar UK from hosting this event in future.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 17 May 2010 00:12

Actually even asking for legal steps etc., will never work. The reason is that for every one Indian voice of outrage at typically racist behaviour from Brits, a thousand extremely loud voices from Indian media, or gov, or those who are maintained on public money and therefore think themselves as sharing the Brit colonial establishment status vis-a-vis the "commons", will take up the issue in favour of the Brits. We will be reminded that Indian tradition is that of forgiveness, and tolerance. Somehow a bunch of non-elected, and never accountable to the public, judicial luminaries who have only defined "Hindus/Hinduism" specifically only with respect to "tolerance" - and this "tolerance" is then extended to all "Indians" where insults from white-Christian-Islamists are concerned.

Do not expect much. Moreover, the government will not fall for the insult of a few sportspersons! Short of that who cares! Also a lot of Indians will melt at the British sportspersons when they visit India.

It is not an issue of the sportspersons feeling insulted, it is a question of whether the preachers of tolerance as the face of the gov or political leadership, whether they feel it as a personal insult too. I doubt that - so far not seen statements from the ruling dynasty as political leadership (the future leaders was interested in sports - no?) or from the ornithidae (those who speak like birds)!

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 17 May 2010 02:13

Brihaspati-ji, I wasn't including you amongst the conspiracy theorists

anmol · Post by **anmol** » 17 May 2010 02:46

brihaspati wrote:Actually even asking for legal steps etc., will never work. The reason is that for every one Indian voice of outrage at typically racist behaviour from Brits, a thousand extremely loud voices from Indian media, or gov, or those who are maintained on public money and therefore think themselves as sharing the Brit colonial establishment status vis-a-vis the "commons", will take up the issue in favour of the Brits. We will be reminded that Indian tradition is that of forgiveness, and tolerance. Somehow a bunch of non-elected, and never accountable to the public, judicial luminaries who have only defined "Hindus/Hinduism" specifically only with respect to "tolerance" - and this "tolerance" is then extended to all "Indians" where insults from white-Christian-Islamists are concerned.

Do not expect much. Moreover, the government will not fall for the insult of a few sportspersons! Short of that who cares! Also a lot of Indians will melt at the British sportspersons when they visit India.

It is not an issue of the sportspersons feeling insulted, it is a question of whether the preachers of tolerance as the face of the gov or political leadership, whether they feel it as a personal insult too. I doubt that - so far not seen statements from the ruling dynasty as political leadership (the future leaders was interested in sports - no?) or from the ornithidae (those who speak like birds)!

I didn't read the article, so missed this :-

The issue threatened to spill into diplomatic domain as Minister of State for External Affairs Preneet Kaur also took strong view of the incident, calling it "unfortunate".

Maharanis have oft used that word "unfortunate" for the condition of people outside their Palaces.

Despite this attitude, we must try. Some Indian in UK should file lawsuit on their behalf.

sunnyP · Post by **sunnyP** » 19 May 2010 02:18

haha The European Convention on Human Rights means these jihadis cannot be deported back to Pakistan in case they are 'tortured'. So the UK is stuck with them.

Al-Qaeda operative cannot be deported, court rules
The leader of a terrorist cell planning an attack on Easter shoppers in Manchester cannot be deported back to Pakistan in case he is tortured, a tribunal has ruled.

Police did not find any explosives when they swooped on the cell in April last year, but MI5 has maintained that the men, all students from Pakistan, were “members of a UK based network linked to al-Qaeda involved in attack planning.”

The Special Immigration and Appeals Commission said it was satisfied Abid Naseer, the alleged ring-leader, was behind an “imminent” al-Qaeda backed plot but said he risked being tortured if he was returned to Pakistan.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... rules.html

shukla · Post by **shukla** » 20 May 2010 17:00

UK to seek 'new special relationship' with India

Britain's new coalition government today committed itself to forge a 'new special relationship' with India, an objective Prime Minister David Cameron had articulated as early as 2006 during his visit to New Delhi as the Conservative leader.

The full text of the coalition agreement published today says: "We will work to establish a new 'special relationship' with India and seek closer engagement with China, while standing firm on human rights in all our bilateral relationships".

The agreement also supports India's membership to the UN Security Council.

It says: "We support reform of the UN Security Council, including permanent seats for Japan, India, Germany, Brazil and African representation".

Cameron, who made his first overseas visit as leader of the Conservative party to India in 2006, has been in close touch with the Indian community often addressing public meetings of Indian spiritual leader Morari Bapu.

Great.. making all the right noises.. now time to back it up with words! I am glad the Conservatives are at the helm..soft spot for India is well known..

jrjrao · Post by **jrjrao** » 20 May 2010 19:21

Denis MacShane is the Labour MP for Rotherham and was deputy to Jack Straw as Minister for State at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office

He is also a full fledged Paki worshipping lifafa recipient whose hidden middle name is Shrilleen.

India is key to solving Afghanistan

After more than six decades of democracy, India still has hundreds of millions of its citizens who cannot read or write or who do not have access to clean water and sewers. But whereas Pakistan has to put up with a condescension and patronising sneers from a pro-Indian establishment in London, India's failure to create peace on its border with Kashmir rarely if ever gets criticised.

As any visitor to Pakistan can see, the nation has a vibrant civil society and a very good, free and energetic media and legal-judicial system. It has a strong women's movement and a strong human rights movement.

shukla · Post by **shukla** » 20 May 2010 19:39

jrjrao wrote:
Denis MacShane is the Labour MP for Rotherham and was deputy to Jack Straw as Minister for State at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office
He is also a full fledged Paki worshipping lifafa recipient whose hidden middle name is Shrilleen.

India is key to solving Afghanistan
After more than six decades of democracy, India still has hundreds of millions of its citizens who cannot read or write or who do not have access to clean water and sewers. But whereas Pakistan has to put up with a condescension and patronising sneers from a pro-Indian establishment in London, India's failure to create peace on its border with Kashmir rarely if ever gets criticised.

As any visitor to Pakistan can see, the nation has a vibrant civil society and a very good, free and energetic media and legal-judicial system. It has a strong women's movement and a strong human rights movement.

Thankfully those are Denis McShane's personal views and by his own admission, he hasn't been able to sway opinion of the conservative gov in the past several attempts..

From the same article..

I have sought on several occasions in the House of Commons to get the then Shadow Foreign Secretary, William Hague, to acknowledge that India should do more to bring stability to the region by seeking to become part of the solution to Kashmir instead of remaining part of the problem, but the Conservative leadership is totally India-obsessed.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 20 May 2010 19:41

jrjrao wrote:
Denis MacShane is the Labour MP for Rotherham and was deputy to Jack Straw as Minister for State at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office
He is also a full fledged Paki worshipping lifafa recipient whose hidden middle name is Shrilleen.

India is key to solving Afghanistan
After more than six decades of democracy, India still has hundreds of millions of its citizens who cannot read or write or who do not have access to clean water and sewers. But whereas Pakistan has to put up with a condescension and patronising sneers from a pro-Indian establishment in London, India's failure to create peace on its border with Kashmir rarely if ever gets criticised.

As any visitor to Pakistan can see, the nation has a vibrant civil society and a very good, free and energetic media and legal-judicial system. It has a strong women's movement and a strong human rights movement.

There used to be a time whn this sort of thing used to irritate me. Nowadays I feel "

So what the faq are you gonna do about it small change?"

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 20 May 2010 19:51

shukla wrote: Great.. making all the right noises.. now time to back it up with words! I am glad the Conservatives are at the helm..soft spot for India is well known..

How our once mighty colonial masters have fallen!

We didn't need them then, we don't need them now.

Soft spot ? or have they perked up seeing the moolah that can be made once again.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 21 May 2010 02:10

i see no evidence of a historic soft spot for india or indians amongst the conservative party
currently though, there is a realisation that a more affluent hindu and sikh population may have shifted its 'natural' alliances to the centre right, so cameron is trying to make a move
chetak - why are you surprised that they have fallen? that is old news, lets write the news of a resurgent India instead?

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 21 May 2010 02:44

Are the Sikhs really doing well in Britain? The Sikhs in my extended family are very wealthy but I don't know if that can be generalised.

Bhima · Post by **Bhima** » 21 May 2010 03:17

Sikhs and British Indians in general are one of the most affluent ethnic communities in the UK.

Significant population of Pakistani Muslims in Rotherham and politically aware too.

Muslim Public Affairs Committee Rotherham on Denis MacShane

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 21 May 2010 03:54

Wow. Sudhir Chaudhry - the big arms dealer/Israeli arms companies agent in India, invested/donated heavily to the Lib dem campaign. He must be celebrating.

shukla · Post by **shukla** » 21 May 2010 09:35

Lalmohan wrote:i see no evidence of a historic soft spot for india or indians amongst the conservative party

I meant Camerons personal and spirtual connection with India.. and the ray of hope that better understanding of Indian culture may spill over to the political flavour..

Cameron, who made his first overseas visit as leader of the Conservative party to India in 2006, has been in close touch with the Indian community often addressing public meetings of Indian spiritual leader Morari Bapu.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 21 May 2010 16:57

shiv wrote:
jrjrao wrote: Denis MacShane is the Labour MP for Rotherham and was deputy to Jack Straw as Minister for State at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office
He is also a full fledged Paki worshipping lifafa recipient whose hidden middle name is Shrilleen.
India is key to solving Afghanistan

^^

We have to look again at the ideology that spurs on the Taliban and other extremists. That ideology is not of the Islam religion, which should have the same respect as any other Abrahamic faith, but is a coherent world ideology of Islamism that is rooted in the Muslim Brotherhood that was founded by Hassan al-Banna in the 1920s and that has developed steadily since.

Ah only the abrahamic faiths
So the pagan hindus dont deserve any cookies ?
bad hindus....baad hindus.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 21 May 2010 23:22

.....which should have the same respect as any other Abrahamic faith......

Indeed it should, only the quantum needs be established.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 23 May 2010 17:23

Broke Britain 'can no longer afford role in Afghanistan'

shukla · Post by **shukla** » 24 May 2010 15:45

UK-India ties under Labour unique: David Miliband

The bilateral ties between the UK and India under the previous Labour regime was a "success" and the party would continue to work for further strengthening it, David Miliband, former Foreign Secretary and a contender for the Labour leadership, has said.

"We should celebrate the success story of the UK-India relations under the Labour. The partnership between Gordon Brown and Manmohan Singh was unique," Miliband said last night.