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It is quite clear that the Pureland has abundant supply of people/ideas/other generic things that can be blamed for all the ills they face and inflict upon others. The DT article linked above also has this gem (wrt FS)
It was his association with Islamic organisations in the West that transformed him into a global jihadist ...
before going on to link Gandhi with the JI.
Well, it is entertaining.
Seriously it also sound like desperate grasps at the straws in the wind.
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We are actively condumn
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used condumn? :mrgreen:
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MQM will never demand Sindh’s divide: Sattar
HYDERABAD: MQM leader Mareej Farooq Sattar said Sunday that his party’s chief Altaf Hussain had never made any demand for creation of a new province in Sindh or its division. Addressing a press conference at the Hyderabad Zonal Office, he said MQM would hold a convention in Sindh’s city of Bhatshah on May 28 while date for Larkana convention would be announced later. MQM leader Altaf Hussain will address these conventions from London on telephone, he said. The senior MQM leader said Altaf had neither called for a new province in Sindh nor any such demand has come forward. The MQM had extended its unconditional support for Khyber Pakhtunkhwa name. He said MQM wants Gilgit Baltistan to be declared a province.
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/updates.asp?id=104866
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http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=239644
The Hindi-Urdu question
Dr Syed Mohammed Anwer ( A Nayya Paki)
Call it Hindi or Urdu, undoubtedly it is one and the same language when spoken. Hindi or Urdu, in both of its forms and manifestations, is the lingua franca of India and Pakistan, respectively. The seed of contention—i.e., division of language on the basis of religion, which was sown by our colonial masters almost a century- and-a-half ago has grown into a big banyan tree, having many trunks, enough, offshoots, branches and leaves to accommodate quite a large number of living beings, and it is difficult to say whether it a one or more than one tree. One side advances enough religious and political reasons favouring Hindi as the national language of India. Hindi, written in Devanagri script has historic, cultural and religious proximity with Hindus and the Hindu religion, easily accommodates more Sansikrit words, and therefore it has nothing to do with the Muslims of India. It is a mark of national identity of “Hindus.” Similarly, for equally religious and political reasons Urdu is said to be a hallmark of the identity of the Muslims of the subcontinent. It is written in Nastaliq script, and can accommodate more and more Arabic and Persian words. The script was “introduced” to write a pre-existent language by the Muslim rulers of the subcontinent and hence has nothing to do with the “Hindus” of the subcontinent. It is simply incomprehensible to me why Hindi (which itself is a Persian word) is a Hindu language and Urdu (which is a Turkish word) is a Muslim language? How does the same sentence of “a language,” written in Devanagri become “Hindu” and when written in Nastaliq becomes “Muslim”? Then, by the same token, if the same sentence is written in Roman script, as it is in sms messages, does it become a Christian language?
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ISI & the buried truths about Mumbai
Praveen Swami

http://www.hindu.com/2010/05/17/stories ... 881000.htm
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Zardari fears for his safety
The six-week war games and field exercises Azm-e-Nau-3 started in the second week of April. The defence authorities were not allowed to even plan the visit of President Asif Zardari in the exercise areas even for the cosmetic purposes. Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani did visit the exercises thrice.

Highly placed defence sources told The News that the president had fear about his personal security during his visit to any defence installations and exercises reason best known to him. He did not ask for even briefing about the military exercises. He is the first head of the state who opted not to visit to the General Headquarters (GHQ) for briefing on threat perceptions to the motherland soon after assuming the office.
The rest of the article is a pinglish critique of Cold Start.
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OK. So it is established that Hamid Mir is/was not being coerced. It is very clear that the voice in the tape is his; no second thoughts about that nor he disclaimed it.

That means he is thoroughly screwed. There were reports that he shifted his family to UK recently.

It still puzzles me why the UM asks HM about who is KK and his background (having already kidnapped them). How come jihadis like Tariq Azam and Hakimullah who has been fighting security forces in various sectors for long don't know about KK and (Sultan tarrar)ST? Is that info authentic? There is very little info about UM's identity and the group he belonged. UM clearly is going along with whatever Hamid Mir is saying/telling him. Strangely, being a journo, he talks 90%+ of the time during the conversation. Was he setup by ISI who asked his services from him to convey something to somebody and in a particular way to gain trust of the UM?

Didn't the kidnappers have any other channel into ISI to ask about them (particularly when Col Imam was there too) to have sought the advise of HM? A lot of things still don't add up.
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abhishek_sharma wrote:ISI & the buried truths about Mumbai
Praveen Swami

http://www.hindu.com/2010/05/17/stories ... 881000.htm
The last sentence contains some in exactitudes :-)

Nothing could better illustrate Pakistan's disinclination to discover the truth about Mumbai.
There is nothing to discover; TSP knows it all. The exactitude is

Nothing could better illustrate Pakistan's disinclination to admit the truth about Mumbai.
Given that Unkil also lost 5-6, and more importantly, Jews were humiliated by TSP, could it be that Unkil/Isarel have already extracted their price from TSP; albeit silently or else it would be embarssing if it were revealed given that no prices was extracted from TSP for the slaughter of the rest of the SDRE victims (bulk) of Mumbai. Not that Unkil cannot spin anything, but this may require some phraseological creativity :-).
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Kayani’s term not being extended, nor does he want it
Defence Minister Chaudhry Ahmed Mukhtar on Sunday said the government was neither granting extension to Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani nor had the general sought it
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Not that we don know that Educated islamist are the worst living among kaffirs.
Giving them scientific education is like teaching monkey how to light fire. From Khalid to Qasab to Faisal to Internet Paki. all
same.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... -650-hh-02
so are the growing number of rabid, tech-savvy young people floating around various interactive websites to mouth the most obnoxious ideas about Islam and politics. There are websites out there glorifying utter mad men and the most twisted conspiracy theories, and many of these are owned, run and frequented by Pakistanis who work and are comfortably settled in western countries.For example, last year columnist Fasi Zaka was being pestered by a young man (through email) who accused him of being an American agent. When Zaka discovered that this person (a Pakistani) lived in the United States, he wrote back, sarcastically offering him help by reporting his dislike of American policies to the notorious US Homeland Security agency. As expected, the emails came to a dead stop. The cyber jihadi had chickened out. Then there is a gentleman who runs a pro-Zaid Hamid website. He lives and works in the US, but has the audacity to call a number of journalists (including me), ‘Zionist/CIA agents.’ He also frequently litters his site with ridiculous conspiracy theories involving the US. He has a fetish for fast cars as well. Just as the sudden rise of certain crackpots (via TV) in Pakistan was keenly followed and supported by a chunk of young, urban Pakistanis, various cranks are happily catering to the already confused religious and ideological bearings of Muslim Pakistanis living abroad. Much has been written about people like Zaid Hamid, Aamir Liaquat and Zakir Naik — men who cleverly represent (and glorify) the increasingly chauvinistic mindset of the current generation of young, urban Pakistanis. The situation is equally distressing in the West.A recent book on Farhat Hashmi’s organisation, Al-Huda, (written by a Pakistani woman), accuses her of spreading hatred against Christians, Hindus and Jews among Pakistani women living in Canada. Recently, in the wake of the Faisal Shahzad episode in New York, the Muslim Canadian Congress (MCC), a group of liberal Muslims living in Canada, accused American Islamic organisations of refusing to distance themselves from the doctrine of armed jihad, as did the Deobandi ulema’s conference back home only recently.
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anupmisra wrote:
Rahul M wrote:do you know the motto of PA ?
"In defeat, there's victory"?
Also written as "Jihad al fisalabulla" or some such thing. Experts can correct it if it is wrong
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shiv wrote:"Jihad al fisalabulla"
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Food fascination from the other side of the border.
http://www.chowk.com/articles/like-the- ... -ahmad.htm
Delhi is a foodie's heaven. Kakori Kebabs sold near Nizammudin's shrine are exalted strips of spiced up meat that melt in one's mouth. From Chaney Pathurey in Bengali Market to the Paan in Khan Market, South Indian food at Sagar Ratna and the grainy Raagi Idlee at Delhi Haat, the food reverie is painfully locked in my taste buds, now.
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abhishek_sharma wrote:ISI & the buried truths about Mumbai
Praveen Swami

http://www.hindu.com/2010/05/17/stories ... 881000.htm
Waqas Ahmad was among the hundreds of Lahore cricket fans who crossed the Wagah border five years ago to watch their country play India in New Delhi. The 2005 India-Pakistan series had been advertised as a historic event; the embodiment of hope that a new era of peace was about to dawn on South Asia. For most of the Lahore fans, the long journey was worth it: Pakistan registered a 159-run victory at the Feroz Shah Kotla stadium before tens of thousands of spectators, among them Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and President Pervez Musharraf.

But Ahmad didn't make the match — and never caught the train home. The story of the cricket fan who disappeared, improbably enough, holds out disturbing new evidence that Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate might have played a direct role guiding the Lashkar-e-Taiba's murderous, November 2008 attack on Mumbai.
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The Uttar Pradesh police located Ahmad last summer at Bithoor on the outskirts of Kanpur. Neighbours knew him as Rajesh Kumar. Ahmad had obtained a driving licence and a voter-identification card to support his ‘fiction,' the term spies use for their cover-identities. Investigators allege that Ahmad was a covert ISI operative, tasked with recording the movements of Indian military units. A grade X dropout, the 25-year old Waqas was recruited by the ISI, say the police. Following a year of training in spycraft, he was despatched to watch out for military movements across northern and western India.
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Anujan wrote:NYTimes Story of Faisal taking the typical Paki Jihadi route in the US.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/16/nyreg ... gewanted=2
Mr. Shahzad came of age during Pakistan’s state-sponsored jihad against India’s military in the breakaway region of Kashmir — a conflict that granted legendary status to Pakistani jihadists. “We used to see the mujahedeen as heroes,” said one graduate of Mr. Shahzad’s high school,
This explains the jubilation and happiness in Pakistan about the Mumbai massacre.
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Two killed in Indian railway station stampede

NEW DELHI: At least two people died in a stampede at a railway station in the Indian capital on Sunday as thousands of passengers waited to board trains, police said. “One woman and a child died and 10 passengers have been admitted to hospital,” New Delhi police spokesman Rajan Bhagat told AFP. “Some people in the crowd started fighting and then everyone started jumping at each other which created panic and passengers in the front got hurt,” he said. Stampedes at public events in India are common as large numbers of people pack into congested areas. Panic can spread quickly and, with few safety regulations in place, the result is often lethal. ??????? The railway system — the main form of long-distance travel in India despite fierce competition from private airlines — runs 14,000 passenger and freight trains a day, carrying 18.5 million people. afp
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 010_pg20_7

WHere is this report sourced from and in Pakistani papers?
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Paul wrote: ...
runs 14,000 passenger and freight trains a day, carrying 18.5 million people. afp
WHere is this report sourced from and in Pakistani papers?[/quote]
It does refer to AFP. Can't be sure if DT did some editing.
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Why does Air Vice Marshal (r) Shahzad Chaudhry say that Preet Bharara implicated the Pakistani State of nexus ?
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shynee wrote:Kayani’s term not being extended, nor does he want it
Defence Minister Chaudhry Ahmed Mukhtar on Sunday said the government was neither granting extension to Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani nor had the general sought it
This is the Zardari camp opening the first fire in the last round of battle.
There is only one way this is going to end, and Zardari can't fight and expect to win against the institution called the Pak Army.

Expect a down hill skiing by the zardari camp, or else...
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PM campaigns for fake degree holder
Wednesday, May 12, 2010

MUZAFFARGARH: Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani vociferously campaigned on Tuesday for a by-election candidate Jamshaid Dasti, who had to quit his National Assembly seat for holding a fake degree.

...

The PM said President Asif Zardari had spent 14 years in prison while he also spent five years in jail. He clarified that his government was not the outcome of any deal but the masses of Pakistan had elected it.


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Jamshaid Dasti said he did not commit any crime and whatever the courts may decide, the real decision was to be made by the people’s court.
AoA
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The Taliban are in the Punjab now, and that is official
Though the provincial government is in a state of denial, the Punjab Police have officially admitted for the first time the movement of the Taliban, their network in district Jhang and southern Punjab and their fund-raising and recruitment drive in the province.

The Jhang city police have filed an FIR, the first-ever in the Punjab, which is a severe indictment of the provincial government. The FIR No 320, registered under 11 F/7 Anti-Terrorist Act by the police itself on the basis of their human intelligence, depicts the grim realities of Talibanisation in the Punjab.

The criminal report filed against the district head of a defunct organisation, Jaish-e-Mohammad, discloses that Taliban commanders often come to the city on their way to southern Punjab as the network of Tehrik-e-Taliban is fast expanding in the region. SHO Kotwali Police Station (Jhang city) confirmed to The News the FIR, a copy of which is available with this correspondent, but was reluctant to go into the details. The DPO Jhang and the IG Punjab were not available for comments despite repeated calls and messages.

The FIR is registered against Dr. Imran, former head of Jaish-e-Mohammad in district Jhang, who has been accused of recently hosting a prominent Taliban commander carrying head money of Rs 10 million. It says Dr. Imran “runs the network of Tehreek-e-Taliban and Taliban would often come to see him on their way to other districts of South Punjab.” He has also been accused of involvement in fundraising.

The intelligence report indicates that the district head of Toba Tek Singh is a former gunman of Osama bin Laden and a driving force behind the network’s expansion in the southern belt.

According to the police intelligence, Taliban leaders frequent a number of seminaries in Jhang
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Going Bananas - Editorial in The News
In a rare display of enlightened self-awareness, PPP leader Zafar Ali Shah recently stunned many in the National Assembly by accusing his own party of turning Pakistan into a banana republic. His criticism came during the debate on the presidential address to the joint session of both houses of parliament, a debate that took place in a chamber that was sparsely attended and almost never quorate, which was conveniently ignored by the speaker. The veteran leader complained of a lack of consultation with rank and file. He also ruminated on the effectiveness of a party that was unable to get itself sufficiently together to catch the murderer of its leader. All in all something of a grand tour of our political ills – but it is his reference to Pakistan as a ‘banana republic’ that bears scrutiny.
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Terrorism Supermarket

Uptight General Azeez tells it as it is...

1) Clearly defines the fault lines in PA about the operations in FATA.
2) Explains Musharraf's arm twisting tactics.
3) Generalisimo was Director of Analysis wing in ISI during Kargil. Tells how he found out about Kargil. Says he was going through some Indian communication and was alarmed by why Indians are so alarmed and then went and confronted DG ISI.
4) In the end General own psych could give a peak into the PA psych.....
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Bhiksha continues to flow...
Let the good times roll...
Until the money runs out

Pak to receive 5th IMF tranche on May 18
KARACHI: The Finance Ministry said it would receive $1.13 billion released by International Monetary Fund (IMF) as fifth tranche of loan sanctioned to Pakistan on May 18, Geo News reported Monday.

... the Foreign Ministry said the foreign exchange reserves will bulge beyond $16 billion after the fifth IMF tranches is received here, which will add up the total amount received from the IMF to $7.27 billion.

Government of Pakistan resorted to the world body for loan to whittle down the fiscal and current account deficits; under which, the Fund approved $11.3 billion for the country.

It should be mentioned that the government and the Fund officials reached consensus that the remaining $4.03 billion in loan amount would be released in two tranches not three

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The pakistani news papers keep a very close watch on the Indian film industry. Mostly because they are avid followers and they don't have a film industry. The only thing they have is the local Mujra industry.
Mallika promotes 'Hisss' with snakes
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PARIS: The bollywood film industry is fast becoming quite conspicuous in the International arena these days.

Bollywood actress Mallika Sherawat is enjoying the company of snakes. The actress, who plays a snake-woman in her forthcoming film, brought real snakes to unveil the film at the ongoing Cannes Film Festival.

Sherawat also posed with a snake during a photo call for her movie 'Hisss'.

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The flick has been taken up by Endeavour', which is the same company that had negotiated deals of the film 'Slum dog Millionaire. Endeavour has sealed the deal with Storm Lion, which is the media Conglomerate which is associated with many Hollywood studios, in order to take the film to many areas.

The film has been made in two languages, Hindi and English, was in its post production in Los Angeles quite some time, and has now been completed, for its final screening.
Aishwarya to star alongside Russell Crowe
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MUMBAI: Ex-Miss World and Bollywood’s reigning queen Aishwarya Rai Bachchan is all set to clinch a movie deal with Hollywood actor Russell Crowe.
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According to sources Russell was with his wife Danielle Spencer and they bonded well with Ash. Word is that they also discussed the possibility of doing a film together and both parties were very keen. It would be a great star cast to have for any movie as it would see the best of both industries coming together.”
Hmmm... :|
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shynee wrote:Kayani’s term not being extended, nor does he want it
Defence Minister Chaudhry Ahmed Mukhtar on Sunday said the government was neither granting extension to Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani nor had the general sought it
Since when Pakbarian Jehadi Army Chief need to ask civilian govt. for extension? He announces it to them. As a holy army whose mission is 'Jihad fi Sabililah' the mandate comes straight from Allah - since Allah cannot sign extension papers, the army chief signs it himself.

Be that as it may in case Kiyanahin feels he has looted enough and sons and daughters are happily placed overseas etc., and wants to hang up boots before any ex-recruit kills him, what other pigs are in line to get promoted as Jehadi-pig-in-chief?
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The fountainhead of religious extremism - DT op-ed
Unless Pakistan and the US seriously take a look at the activities of the JI, any meaningful progress in stopping extremism feeding this terror will be impossible.
Why US ? JI is a Pakistani Islamist party patronized by the state for very long. Why is Pakistan not taking any action against the JI or its student wing, the IJT even today ? Why is Pakistan not doing anything when the US (and even the UN) has taken a very serious view of the LeT and Prof. Hafeez Saeed ? What is then the sovereignty of Pakistan when it needs to invite another country to take a 'serious look' into one of its own terrorist organizations ?
It must be remembered, for those who still care about the reasons why we made this country in the first place, that Jinnah’s Pakistan and Maududi’s Pakistan are mutually exclusive. Pakistan must decide here and now: do we wish to make Pakistan a prosperous and democratic state, which is at peace home and abroad ala Jinnah? Or do we wish to make Pakistan a violent dystopia run by maniacs and religious extremists with twisted ideas about religion ala Maududi?
Jinnah's Pakistan and Maududi's Pakistan were conceived in the same womb as identical twins. Let's see why.

In circa 1942, Maulana Abu ala Al Mawdudi wrote in his article Musalman aur Maujooda Siyasi Kashmakash Vol III (Muslims and the Current Political Struggle), that "As a Muslim, I have no interest in their (Muslim) rule in those areas of India where the Muslims are in a majority. For me the primary question is whether in this 'Pakistan' of yours the basis of government will be the sovereignty of God or, in accordance with the western idea of democracy, the sovereignty of the people. In the first case it will certainly be 'Pakistan,' otherwise it will be as much of 'Na-Pakistan' as that part of the country where, according to your scheme, the rule will be that of non-Muslims: in fact, in the eyes of God it will be 'na-pak' -- and damned.”

Jinnah and his Muslim Leaguers knew exactly where Maulana Mawdudi stood with respect to how Pakistan should be administered. In the above, he is questioning Jinnah as to whether it would be run according to God-given Shariah or according to man-made Democracy. Later, Jinnah sought the support of Mawdudi to gain support for his programme of division of India. Jinnah had assured a representative of the influential founder of the Deobandi order, Mawdudi that he saw no incompatibility between their two approaches. Hetold the representative allegorically: "I seek to secure the land for the mosque; once that land belongs to us, then we can decide on how to build the mosque". Thus Mawdudi reconciled with the Quaid-e-Azam (whom he once referred to as Kafir-e-Azam) as he interpreted Jinnah's statement as a reference to the Islamic nature of the State under creation. As Vali reza says in his book, "The Vanguard of the Islamic Revolution", If anything, Jinnah had hinted that his task was only to secure the land for the “mosque”; its building, the Jama‘at concluded, would be the work of the religiously adept.

There are many other instances where Jinnah invoked Islamic fervour including being partial to rabid fundamentalists. His muddled thinking, his lack of vision for Pakistan and his greed are the root causes for all the wrong things affecting the world today.
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Suppiah wrote:Kayani’s term not being extended, nor does he want it
Defence Minister Chaudhry Ahmed Mukhtar on Sunday said the government was neither granting extension to Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani nor had the general sought it
Since when Pakbarian Jehadi Army Chief need to ask civilian govt. for extension? He announces it to them. As a holy army whose mission is 'Jihad fi Sabililah' the mandate comes straight from Allah - since Allah cannot sign extension papers, the army chief signs it himself.
I think that there is either some misunderstanding here by the Defence Minister or Zardari is trying to be too clever (by half). We know what happened to another Prime Minister who was similarly clever but had to end up in exile. It may also be that Kayani wants others (like Gen. Petraeus) to bat for him.
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Or may be it is Zardari's clever means of getting the DM to meet his 72 by getting him to challenge Kiyanahi. Dont know what they did to each other...
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More from Hamid Mir.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=239716

He claims a major government campaign against Geo, Jang groups.
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Pakistanis are extremely capable of spinning conspiracy theories, a well known fact. Another fact is that the entire Pakistan supports jihad and terrorism and people in Government, Media, Services etc have either been involved with jihadi and sectarian terrorists at one time or another or are quite willing to be involved if an opportunity presents itself. Except for a minuscule, the rest are completely brainwashed by Islamism. When such people begin to fight among themselves, it becomes difficult for the spectators to distinguish the chaff from the grain.
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i am impressed with the insights and scathing view points of nadeem f paracha in the smokers corner edition of dawn. he could have been a brf member for all we know. his take on the ra pe class during the.pak fashion week resonates to the exact t with what we have on brf. he does seem to have a problem with zaid hanid and his ilk. does somebody notice the amount of vitriol by the pukes in the comments section?
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Nayak, your post would be more readable with appropriate punctuation.
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SSridhar wrote:
Why does Air Vice Marshal (r) Shahzad Chaudhry say that Preet Bharara implicated the Pakistani State of nexus ?
I love the brazen way in which he says
This has been the most damaging single act, defeating by miles Faisal Shahzad’s misadventure. The Pakistani state must urgently engage the US on the implications of such provocative pronouncements.
Implying that Hillary Clinton's interview is more damaging to US-Pak relations than Faisal's attempt to blow up a few people in NY. Fantastic!!

I bit of piskology rant here. Paki approach to diplomacy seems to be "Be aggressive when cornered". We saw this during the KL bill, when Unkil essentially agreed to buy saline water for the Paki economy in the ICU. What do we get? HUGE protests about how (a) The aid is peanuts (b) The conditions are unacceptable. Anybody else would have gladly taken the money with a big "thanks".

Same thing with India agreeing to FS-level talks. We have our Qureshi giving that unwanted speech in Lahore about how India had blinked. Fast forward to Thimphu, he comes up with a brilliant observation that MMS wants peace but the Congress party is not with him (shades of this political analysis is also in the Vice Marshal's article, when he claims that Hillary made the statement out of frustration that she is not close to Ombaba's policy making).

I wish the Air Vice Marshal well & would advice him to keep tabs on his son.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

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SSridhar wrote:Nayak, your post would be more readable with appropriate punctuation.
sorry saar, i am browsing brf on my mobile. the touchscreen keyboard is a mess.
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Anujan wrote: I bit of piskology rant here. Paki approach to diplomacy seems to be "Be aggressive when cornered".
That goes back to pre-Independence days. After all, aren't they a martial race ?
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The three cancers of Pakistan
The first and foremost is the Pakistani Army, which is not ready to shed its dominance despite the establishment of a democratic government.
The second cancer is the ISI. This organization was created for the express purpose of proliferating terror in India.
The next group is the militant organizations that function with impunity due to tacit support flowing from both, the Army and the ISI.
Nothing new here for BRFites.
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Just as Hamir Mir's story was initially reported only by DialyCrimes, this news report is being reported only by the Jang group. Stakes of Zardari and Kayani have gone up a few notches. For Zardari, at stake is his life.
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