Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 21, 2010

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Pakistan restless as India ups vigil on border
Though vigil on this border has always been high, it is getting tighter. India is realigning the fencing and shifting high mast lights closer to the zero line on its side of the border. This is making the Pakistan Rangers jittery, and cross-border firing is a live possibility.

Also, all along the 192 km international border (IB) from Pallanwala to Lakhanpur, new bunkers are being built close to the zero line. Indian forces will soon be guarding the borders from very close to the zero line from vantage positions such as this one at Abdullian.

Fence realignment here is almost over and two new bunkers are ready for occupation, overlooking a stretch of the road leading to Sialkot, Pakistan, 14 km away on the other side. Once they move in, the BSF will be able to monitor movements along the zero line lit up by high mast lights.

Pakistan is yelling blue murder. “They argue during flag meetings or write protest letters. Otherwise, they open heavy gun fire. But the fact remains that the work is going on inside Indian territory,’’ a BSF official said.

Efforts to move closer to the border have been made for several years but Pakistan Rangers and militants used to open fire, making it virtually impossible for the BSF to work on the fencing.

India had to be content with erecting the fence several hundred metres away from the zero line, making it easier for militants to sneak in under covering fire by the Rangers.

“We lost jawans even when we erected the fence 500 m from the zero line.

The ceasefire agreement in Nov. 2003 enabled us to take up work on realignment of the fence and shifting the high mast lights,’’ the BSF official said.

Standing atop a bunker at Abdullian border outpost, one can see Pakistani vehicles moving up and down the road to Sialkot.

BSF officials say Pakistan’s fear is that the fence reaignment will place Indian forces at advantageous points at many spots along the borders including this one at Abdullian.

“By getting closer to the zero line, we will be able to dominate the forward area.

Pakistani forces have been objecting to the shifting of high mast lights but it does not matter as it is our territory,’’ the official said.

The BSF and Pakistan Rangers were engaged in a war of words during a flag meeting in Samba sector recently.

BSF (182 battalion) commander B S Rawat categorically told Rangers Wing Commander Shahid Fareed that India was installing lights in its own area and Pakistan should not have an objection to that.

The Rangers argued that light from the high mast lamps was falling on the advance pickets of the Rangers and wanted the angle of the lights changed.

The BSF didn’t budge.
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X Posted.

The Islamic Terrorist fomenting intelligence outfit of the Military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) is linked to Faisal Shahzad , the Pakistani origin Islamic terrorist who tried to car bomb New York’s Times Square,

The Major of the Army of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan whose involvement as an accomplice of Faisal Shahzad was first disclosed by the Los Angeles Times (Link 1) and subsequently reiterated after the Pakistan Army denied a connection (Link 2) is/was apparently a member of the ISI.

See this article in the Pakistani newspaper, The Nation, which identifies one of those arrested as belonging to “a security agency” and having a brother named “Qamar”:
Similarly, an official (A) of a security agency was the person who was first arrested from Islamabad in the wake of Time Square bomb attempt. Later, his brother, Qamar, was also apprehended for interrogation…………..

The Nation
Meanwhile this article in the Pakistni Newspaper, “The News”, discloses the fact that Major Adnan Ejaz of the Pakistan Army’s Signal Corp’s who was mysteriously picked up after Faisal Shahzad’s arrest has a brother named Qamar:

Mystery of Army officer’s arrest deepens

Meanwhile “The News” is not buying the Pakistani Military’s attempt to whitewash links of Faisal Shahzad to a member of the Pakistani Army. From the above linked article in The News:
Although, the ISPR says the Major was arrested on ‘disciplinary grounds’ having nothing to do with the Faisal Shehzad case, there is no explanation why his younger brother has been taken into custody while he was on way to his office in his car.
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From the above post by 'arun', the arrested persons are all RAPEs.
  • Major Adnan of the PA
  • His brother, Qamar Ejaz, a software-engineer
  • Shahid Hussain, an MBA from the US, and a financial analyst with Telenor Company
  • Salman Ashraf (also a US-educated RAPE) and Raza Ahmad, whose fathers co-owned an upscale catering service, Hanif Rajput Catering
  • Khunbal Akhtar, a graphic designer with elite background like others
  • Shoaib Moghal, an alleged go-between Taliban and Faisal Shehzad, was arrested from Islamabad where he had a large computer dealership
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Congrats Pakis! You have moved up from being called Rats to Rabbits by IA. boost to your H&D

From article posted by SSabove
ABDULLIAN (Indo-Pak border), RS Pura : “Wahan kuch harkat hai, jaldi check karo,’’ a BSF official instructs his subordinate who grabs his binoculars and focusses in the direction of some bushes while holding his weapon at the ready.


“Kuch nahi, saab, khargosh (Rabbit) hai,’’ he replies.

“Cheh foot (six feet) ka khargosh toh nahi hain?’’ the official asks the trooper smiling, an allusion to a Pakistani intruder who was shot dead trying to sneak in through the fence a few days earlier
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Also shows how MMS and earlier PM's WKK'esque ceasfire agreement helped India. Chankian brain is pretty wicked (I hope)!!
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X Posted. In the Islamic Republic of Pakistan it appears that pious Muslims can kidnap a non-Muslim child, Hindu in this case, with the assured knowledge that the Police of the Islamic Republic will not intervene in support of a non-Muslim where a Muslim is the transgressor.:
Wednesday, May 26, 2010

Cleric accused of kidnapping, converting Hindu girl

* Radha’s family claim she was forcibly converted in madrassa
* Police ignoring family’s complaints, say they should forget about the girl

By Afnan Khan

LAHORE: The leader of a madrassa allegedly abducted a minor Hindu girl from Rahim Yar Khan and did not let her parents meet their daughter, claiming that the girl had converted to Islam and no longer wanted to meet her “non-Muslim relatives”.

Radha (13) was abducted in December 2009, her parents told Daily Times, adding that they had “knocked on every door stretching from the president of Pakistan to Punjab chief minister and chief secretary, but to no avail”. “Local police, including the former and current district police officers of Rahim Yar Khan, are supporting the people who abducted Radha and are neither registering a first information report (FIR) against the accused, nor are they taking any action to recover the girl from the custody of Abdul Jabbar and Naveed,” they alleged. ………………….

Daily Times
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Facebook fuels American flag business in Pakistan :mrgreen:
In Pakistan a row about Facebook, censorship and religious sacrilege means booming demand for replica American and Israeli flags to go up in flames at protest rallies....
That means one thing for 31-year-old Mamoon ur Rasheed -- business -- and he is working long into the night to churn out the paraphernalia beloved of Islamic activists taking to the streets.

I'm busy every day making banners and placards for different religious and political parties, but work gets a boost -- especially when international controversy concerning Muslims breaks out,"

"Generally, we receive orders for banners for a couple of demonstrations a day, but due to the blasphemous drawings issue, the number of orders for flags and banners has increased by 10 to 12 per day," said Rasheed.

Flags are made for burning. They symbolise what our clients want to express and we are paid for it, so I'm happy to see our work go up in flames."

Rasheed owns a workshop where he employs four craftsmen to paint flags and write calligraphy, and a small printing press.

"We have received continuous orders for American and Israeli flags. Normally we paint them but when demand surges into the hundreds we print these flags to get them to our clients in time," he said.
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That's a very good write-up. Please take time to read it completely. It captures the Pakistani psyche. It also quotes our herrow, Mr. Zaid Hamid
One of those pundits :lol: is Zaid Hamid, a fast-talking, right-wing television personality who rose to fame on one of Pakistan’s 90 new private television channels.

He uses Google searches to support his theory that India, Israel and the United States — through their intelligence agencies and the company formerly known as Blackwater — are conspiring to destroy Pakistan.

For Mr. Hamid, the case of Mr. Shahzad is one piece of a larger puzzle being assembled to pressure Pakistan. Why, otherwise, the strange inconsistencies, like the bomb’s not exploding? “If you connect the dots, you have a pretty exciting story,” he said.

Mr. Hamid is more interested in the larger plot, like the secret ownership of the Federal Reserve, which he found on the Internet. After three years of fame, his star seems to be falling. This month his show was canceled, and he has had to rely on Facebook and audio CDs to make his points. But it is not the end of the conspiracy.

“Someone else will be front row very soon,” said Manan Ahmed, a professor of Pakistani history. “It is the mood of the country at the moment.”
Is Mr. Hamid trying to resuscitate himself ?
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Pakistan asks US to help bridge the gulf with India

But, hasn't Pakistan got a big gulf with the US itself ? Whom will it ask to bridge that gulf, India perhaps ?

Excerpt
Pakistan wants India to end the exercise of Armed Forces Special Powers Act in Kashmir and release all political prisoners. {What an audacious demand. The Pakistanis always behave that they were the victors and therefore have got a right to demand the vanquished to do their bidding.}

“It is a key for both of us to first agree on the cause of trust deficit before we find ways to deal with it,” the diplomat said. He warned that India’s tendency to see terrorism as the only cause of distrust could complicate matters. “It is a self-delusional approach.”
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Amazing. Pakistan has quite a capable propaganda apparatus. This news is an attempt to portray Pakistan as a US-like thriving capitalist democracy where people's consumer demands fuel the economy.

Made to make the American think "Just like us no?"
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yeah but most americans dont like anyone burning their flag :) "rally around the flag" is a typical american reaction.
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Arts across Borders
Sangeeta Isvaran is a choreographer, performer, researcher and social activist.

My trip to Lahore was a fantastic, myth-breaking experience. As a South Indian from Madras, for me Pakistan remained ensconced in mystery - revealed in flashes in the flames of bomb explosions, in the faces of stiffly smiling political leaders, in the photos of Partition.

The only sad part for me was the disappearance of dance from the public imagination. Whenever I was asked what I did {after questions on my origin, mother tongue, marital status, religion etc etc}, the minute I said I was a dancer, the person either asked me for my phone number, or asked me if I did cabaret, or offered to take me to the red-light area. That was sad!

"Two things I understood - firstly, how much we are linked as Indians and Pakistanis in our way of life, our aesthetics, even silly things like our sense of humour; secondly, I want to go back..."
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SSridhar wrote:Is Mr. Hamid trying to resuscitate himself ?
Perhaps, as a pundit. Now, thats what I call an irony!
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May be MMS is not so bad after all. Let us hope that the mangoes have the same effect on gilani a la zia ul haq.


http://www.telegraphindia.com//1100526/ ... 488396.jsp
Mango juice in Pak diplomacy

Gilani


New Delhi, May 25: Prime Minister Manmohan Singh today sent a consignment of mangoes to his Pakistani counterpart Yusuf Raza Gilani, taking a bite off the fruit diplomacy nurtured by Indira Gandhi.

About 20kg of Alphonso mangoes were despatched to the Indian high commission in Islamabad, which will pass them on to the Prime Minister’s office there, sources said.
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SSridhar wrote:
secondly, I want to go back..."
No competition. In Pakistan every choreographer/dancer is special.

PS: Be thankful for small mercies - at least the goat wasn't seductive.
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AnimeshP wrote: Well ... Mr. Rajshekhar is quite a colorful character .. no wonder he was invited to Pakiland ... as they say in my part of the world ..
Ram milayin jodi ... :rotfl:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V._T._Rajshekar
Is this guy also a faithful who is using his kafir name as smoke screen similar to Teesta Setalvad.
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V T Rajasekhar is Bangalore based editor/founder of Dalit Voice--Rabid anti Hindu anti Indic and fanatical Christian Fundamentalist. His son Who is worst than him-- is going to take over as amnesty International Presidentship in UK.
Expect Amnesty International demanding to make caste as Race and wanting to impose a ban on anything India/Indian!!!
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Paki lip service about religious studies in mainstream schools

COMMENT: Jihadi public schools? —Ali K Chishti
post-1979 curricula and textbooks openly eulogise war and militancy and urge students to become mujahideen and martyrs. But the target is not only India or Hindus. The curriculum targets all non-Muslims and countries and seeks to teach a particularly virulent version of radical and militant Islam to Pakistan’s children. The most significant problems with the current curriculum and textbooks are: i) insensitivity to the religious diversity of the nation; ii) incitement to militancy and violence; iii) perspectives that encourage prejudice, bigotry and discrimination towards fellow citizens, especially women and religious minorities and other nations; and iv) the glorification of war and the use of force.
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SSridhar wrote:Arts across Borders
I have been following the infotainment section in daily times for over 5 years now and hardly have I ever seen a single article about pakistan its either hollywood gossip or Hindi cinema gossip. Also I was speaking to a paki from lahore and he was telling me how the drama (theatre) groups are slowly dying. They used to be hugely entertaining and popular in 80's but now being reduced to few plays with vulgur themes catering to select rakait mards tastes. We all know about cinema in pakistan but this is new that classical dance is also dead. Still when ever you see a RAPE video on youtube you see clippings from junoon (band dead a decade ago) or atif aslam or some RAPE womens college singing to present taquiya liberalism.
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SSridhar wrote:Pakistan restless as India ups vigil on border
Though vigil on this border has always been high, it is getting tighter. India is realigning the fencing and shifting high mast lights closer to the zero line on its side of the border. This is making the Pakistan Rangers jittery, and cross-border firing is a live possibility.

The BSF didn’t budge.
Awesome we need more such firm news articles. Tired of news articles always showing India in supplicant postion being PC all the time.
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D-uh,
When did pakistan have 90 TV channels?
These are all Indian Satellite TV channels which the videshis are confusing as Pakistani.
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Gagan should be able to tell us for sure, but if you look in google maps satellite view around Sialkot, you can see some sections of fence right near the border and what appear to be straight line traces of an older fence further in.
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TSP gets 48-hours to implement hike in electricity tariff and VAT: WB
AoA only.
Pakistan received a stern 48-hour deadline to take tough actions that include hiking of electricity tariffs by six per cent and implementation of the Value Added Tax (VAT) from July 1. On failure to do so, Pakistan will not receive $300 million under the poverty reduction support credit, the World Bank (WB) said.

If Pakistan succeessfully implements the two conditions, the approval of $300 million will be made during the World Bank meeting which is to take place on June 29 in Washington.

According to sources, authorities were alarmed and clueless about how to fulfill the conditions till May 27.

Authorities in Islamabad are aware that even if the International Monetary Fund (IMF) allowed Pakistan not to impose VAT in its budget, World Bank would show stiff resistance in providing any aid, as VAT is its brainchild.

The World Bank has been assistng Pakistan in preparations to introduce the VAT law to Pakistan during the past one year. However, there has been hue and cry from the business communities across Pakistan against the imposition of VAT.
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The Hamid Mir Saga Continues.
http://criticalppp.org/lubp/archives/11540
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Flash Alert!

ISI has been taken over by I(ndia), (United) S(tates), I(srael)
Conspiracy theory is a national sport in Pakistan, where the main players — the United States, India and Israel — change positions depending on the ebb and flow of history. Since 2001, the United States has taken center stage, looming so large in Pakistan’s collective imagination that it sometimes seems to be responsible for everything that goes wrong here.
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Is there a link between ban of some internet sites and the Hamid Mir saga? Clearly, those bans have come quite soon after the Hamid Mir event happened and on the pretext of sacrilege of Mohammad.

Is it possible that the original agenda included banning media also including GEO and other channels and Hamid Mir prevented it by creating a ruckus which may not be totally related but just enough that Media is saved from that agenda?

Just a thought.
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Another Gem from the above NYT article.
Though Pakistan was created as a haven for Muslims, it was secular at first, and did not harden into an Islamic state on paper until 1949. Intellectuals point to the moment as a kind of original sin, when Islam became embedded in the country’s democratic blueprint, handing immense power to Islamic hard-liners, who could claim — despite their small numbers — to be the true guardians of the state.
So it took a two loooong years for the islamic istate of Pakistan to harden. What did it do in those two years?

Between 1947 and 1949 it invaded the princely state of J&K on the basis of religion and still occupying a portion of that state, which should legally belong to India.

The original sin is the creation of Pakistan on the basis of religion. Since democracy is not suitable to Islam it is oxymoron for Pakistan and it's ******** parents (UK and USA) to create this artificial state.

On one side the farticle claims that the entire nation has turned into a paranoid and intolerant islamic society and then it wishes that the Islamic hard-liners are in small numbers.
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So many nuggets in one place.
Mr. Paracha argues that the denial is dangerous because it hobbles any form of public conversation — for example, about Mr. Shahzad’s upper-class background — leaving society unequipped to find remedies for its problems. “We’ve started to believe our own lies,” he said.
We have some of these liars on Indian side too. This side of the border they think the problem is with corrupt politicians and lack of toilets...
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RamaY wrote:Another Gem from the above NYT article.
Though Pakistan was created as a haven for Muslims, it was secular at first, and did not harden into an Islamic state on paper until 1949. Intellectuals point to the moment as a kind of original sin, when Islam became embedded in the country’s democratic blueprint, handing immense power to Islamic hard-liners, who could claim — despite their small numbers — to be the true guardians of the state.
So it took a two loooong years for the islamic istate of Pakistan to harden. What did it do in those two years?

Between 1947 and 1949 it invaded the princely state of J&K on the basis of religion and still occupying a portion of that state, which should legally belong to India.

The original sin is the creation of Pakistan on the basis of religion. Since democracy is not suitable to Islam it is oxymoron for Pakistan and it's ******** parents (UK and USA) to create this artificial state.

On one side the farticle claims that the entire nation has turned into a paranoid and intolerant islamic society and then it wishes that the Islamic hard-liners are in small numbers.
That is because on 12th March 1949 Prime Minister, Liaquat Ali Khan passed the Objective Resolution for pakistan. SO two years after they got a country some one decided they needed to figure out what to do with it so the first declared objective was

"Sovereignty belongs to Allah alone but He has delegated it to the State of Pakistan through its people for being exercised within the limits prescribed by Him as a sacred trust. "

Now if this is the basis of country it is no wonder Mullas are so powerful

Others were

"The principles of democracy, freedom, equality, tolerance and social justice, as enunciated by Islam, shall be fully observed. "

"Muslims shall be enabled to order their lives in the individual and collective spheres in accordance with the teachings of Islam as set out in the Qur'an and Sunnah.


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R Vaidya wrote:V T Rajasekhar is Bangalore based editor/founder of Dalit Voice--Rabid anti Hindu anti Indic and fanatical Christian Fundamentalist. His son Who is worst than him-- is going to take over as amnesty International Presidentship in UK.
Expect Amnesty International demanding to make caste as Race and wanting to impose a ban on anything India/Indian!!!
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RVaidya garu,

I think GOI will not be able to ban Caste. It would have vote-bank and policy repercussions as how to implement caste-based reservations and so on.

Banning Caste word will also harm western interests. If and when that happens, BBC and other western propaganda machines will have nothing to associate anything/everything bad happens in India.
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SSridhar wrote:Pakistan asks US to help bridge the gulf with India

But, hasn't Pakistan got a big gulf with the US itself ? Whom will it ask to bridge that gulf, India perhaps ?

Excerpt
Pakistan wants India to end the exercise of Armed Forces Special Powers Act in Kashmir and release all political prisoners. {What an audacious demand. The Pakistanis always behave that they were the victors and therefore have got a right to demand the vanquished to do their bidding.}

“It is a key for both of us to first agree on the cause of trust deficit before we find ways to deal with it,” the diplomat said. He warned that India’s tendency to see terrorism as the only cause of distrust could complicate matters. “It is a self-delusional approach.”
Boss, look at it from TSP's POV. It is tantamount to one man claiming another man's beautiful wife. Now if this other man does not ask this guy to take a hike and tells him to f$%^k off, but instead says I will build "trust" with you so we can resolve all outstanding issues, isn't the guy staking the claim a victor of sorts?

Naturally, his counter offer to building "trust" is very simple. Just hand over your wife to me a silver platter and that would "proof" that you are serious about building "trust". It gets even worse.

The guy with the beautiful wife for a host of reasons really likes this other guy. He feels brotherly solidarity with him as a neighbor. So his proposal is, man, don't make a big hue and cry about wanting my wife. And, please I beg you don't set your bulld dogs loose on my house and harass me. Let me offer you this. How about both of us share my lovely wife? On hearing this, the man coveting the wife senses a huge opportunity. He knows that a part of his neighbor's wife has soft feelings towards him, and in any sharing opportunity, his mindblowing TFTA traits will just sweep the wife off her feet and the other guys can kiss her goodbye.

There is one major stumbling block to this sharing plan. The guy's family and a few of the wife's realtives are dead against this diabolical sharing arrangement. Hence the guy desirous of his neighbor's wife runs to the local sheriff and demands that if he wants him to behave and help the sheriff in finding other petulant residents like him, the sheriff musty force the guy with the lovely wife and their families to build "trust", namely, get into this sharing arrangement as soon as possible with no pre-conditions about caging the bull dogs etc.

Now you tell me Sir, who is on a winning wicket, the guy with the lovley wife, or the guy making the audacious demand?
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RamaY wrote: So it took a two loooong years for the islamic istate of Pakistan to harden. What did it do in those two years?
http://ghazali.net/book1/chapter_3.htm
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Leftist/Libertarian response to NYT article on Pakistan's paranoia.
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn ... index.html
The New York Times this morning has a particularly lush installment of one of the American media's most favored, reliable, and self-affirming rituals -- it's time to mock and pity Those Crazy, Primitive, Irrational, Propagandized Muslims and their Wild Conspiracy Theories, which their reckless media and extremists maliciously disseminate in order to generate unfair and unfounded hostility toward the U.S.
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One more article in NYT about paki media

Pakistan’s Opinionated Media Landscape
Granted, hard-hitting journalism in this country can often be dangerous, but another problem is sourcing. The same relative handful of personalities make rounds on the talk show circuit. Same people. Different day. Different channel. Most are more opinionated than informed, and as a result, talk shows are giving prominence to incredible sources.
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A_Gupta wrote:Leftist/Libertarian response to NYT article on Pakistan's paranoia.
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn ... index.html
This is a brilliant article, and his examples are apt and make the point on US paranoid xenephoba whenever there is even a hint of a hint of hint (ad infinitum) that their back side migh be pinched by someone who is a "bad guy" in their eyes. I'll add one more. One of US's late foreign policy super stars, Samuel Huntington, who gave a pedantic twist to something obvious and banal that we all know about, namely, all the world's major civilizations and religions are at each other's throats; once admitted that US is paranoid, and rightfully so according to him, about Hindus' rise is that the world will hear lectures on the superiority of caste system. Thats the level of paranoia about Hindus. We know a lot about TSP, but for US to talk about Paki paranoia is like a prostitute preaching the virtues of chastity.
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Media programming of the great unwashed can be transparent and particularly crude in the establishment press. The great redeeming feature of the US is its tolerance of truly free press-one has to go looking for it but it can be very rewarding.

When perusing the media, remember the dictum 'give a dog a bad name and hang it'. What is telling is that this is a proverb that did not cross the Atlantic.
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Brad Goodman wrote:One more article in NYT about paki media

Pakistan’s Opinionated Media Landscape
Granted, hard-hitting journalism in this country can often be dangerous, but another problem is sourcing. The same relative handful of personalities make rounds on the talk show circuit. Same people. Different day. Different channel. Most are more opinionated than informed, and as a result, talk shows are giving prominence to incredible sources.

Also I dont think the writer understands the basic problem of why conspiracy theories exist in TSP.
Its because as an Islamic nation their path to greatness is pre-ordained or predestined by Allah and if there is a deviation, its due to non-believer intervention aka Conspiracy Theory.

BTW the Right Wing in massa also thinks like that hence the plethora of CTs during Bush 2.

Its as simple as that.
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ramana wrote:
Also I dont think the writer understands the basic problem of why conspiracy theories exist in TSP.
Its because as an Islamic nation their path to greatness is pre-ordained or predestined by Allah and if there is a deviation, its due to non-believer intervention aka Conspiracy Theory.
The path for an Islamic country is total islamic world. Anything else is CT against islam
BTW the Right Wing in massa also thinks like that hence the plethora of CTs during Bush 2.

Its as simple as that.
The path for an evangelical country is total christian world
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India's approach self-delusional: Pak

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 976455.cms

"It is a key for both of us to first agree on the cause of trust deficit before we find ways to deal with it," the unnamed diplomat said. He said India's tendency to see terrorism as the only cause of distrust could complicate matters.

"It is a self-delusional approach," he added. The diplomat said the realisation in India that confrontation with Pakistan "is hurting its own development" is a positive sign and could expedite the normalisation of bilateral relations.
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Acharya wrote:
ramana wrote:
Also I dont think the writer understands the basic problem of why conspiracy theories exist in TSP.
Its because as an Islamic nation their path to greatness is pre-ordained or predestined by Allah and if there is a deviation, its due to non-believer intervention aka Conspiracy Theory.
The path for an Islamic country is total islamic world. Anything else is CT against islam
BTW the Right Wing in massa also thinks like that hence the plethora of CTs during Bush 2.

Its as simple as that.
The path for an evangelical country is total christian world
The problem is they can never achieve required purity levels in any part or time of the world. So they will be in perpetual paranoia and war.
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