People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

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shyam wrote:The article has to be looked at with the understanding of the image many western strategists paint - China is the global power and India is a regional power. Even in India's backyard, China plays the major role.
India cannot claim to have the same degree of sovereignty that China does.

I have been saying that electronic voting is an issue that affects sovereignty. It is not a BJP vs. Congress matter - all parties are susceptible to subversion.

If you were to ask the Chinese to accept electronic voting, with binaries installed abroad, without any ability for the binaries to be read in China, you would become a laughing-stock. Yet Indians are happily swallowing the same situation, without much protest.
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Pranav wrote: Chinese fire-power was what was decisive in saving Sri Lanka.
Based on whose chronicling?! May be you should wait for the official (and by official, i mean that of the GoSL and SLA) sri lankan version rather than pontificate on whose contributions were decisive in what. At the end of the day, SL is in India's backwaters, with just a tiny sliver of water that separates India from SL. India could (and would) bulldoze anything as it likes, only history can vouch for that. India did that in 71 in what is now BD, 87 in SL, 88 and 2008 (!) in maldives, 89-90 and 2006 in nepal again, etc.

Bottomline: under-estimating India's strengths is as naive as over-estimating India's weaknesses. India's furrin policy is steered not by the bjp or inc, at least in SL, a good fraction of the command and control is in the hands of the babus. One MGR and one Indira/Rajiv could only steer so much, at the end of the day, JND and his successors have steered our policies in SL to a maturity that no bozo leader can undo. But yea, please do ignore my rant, as it will go over your head with the binaries and this and that.
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Stan_Savljevic wrote:
Pranav wrote: Chinese fire-power was what was decisive in saving Sri Lanka.
Based on whose chronicling?! May be you should wait for the official (and by official, i mean that of the GoSL and SLA) sri lankan version rather than pontificate on whose contributions were decisive in what. At the end of the day, SL is in India's backwaters, with just a tiny sliver of water that separates India from SL. India could (and would) bulldoze anything as it likes, only history can vouch for that. India did that in 71 in what is now BD, 87 in SL, 88 and 2008 (!) in maldives, 89-90 and 2006 in nepal again, etc.

Bottomline: under-estimating India's strengths is as naive as over-estimating India's weaknesses.
Do you have any comparison for Indian supplies of offensive fire-power to GoSL, vs. Chinese supplies?
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Pranav wrote: Do you have any comparison for Indian supplies of offensive fire-power to GoSL, vs. Chinese supplies?
May be you should figure out why Shri MKN and Shri SSM paid a visit to SL in May 2009. May be you should also realize that the 15th saarc summit was held in colombo.

PS: Anyway, forget it.
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Stan_Savljevic wrote:
Pranav wrote: Do you have any comparison for Indian supplies of offensive fire-power to GoSL, vs. Chinese supplies?
May be you should figure out why Shri MKN and Shri SSM paid a visit to SL in May 2009. May be you should also realize that the 15th saarc summit was held in colombo.

PS: Anyway, forget it.
That was mostly about avoiding civilian casualties in the end-game, as far as I can recall.

But yes, if India has supplied more offensive fire-power to GoSL than China, then I would be interested in knowing about it.
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Clinton and Geithner Face Hurdles in China Talks

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/25/world ... diplo.html
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Naval Gazing in Asia

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... ng_in_asia
In the middle of April, a group of 10 vessels (including two submarines) from the Chinese Navy turned up in international waters not far from Okinawa. The Japanese defense minister called the presence of such a large group of ships "unprecedented" and vowed to bring the matter under investigation. A week earlier a Chinese helicopter zoomed into within 90 meters (295 feet) of a Japanese destroyer that was monitoring another Chinese naval force maneuvering off the Japanese coast. Nerves in Tokyo are officially rattled.
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The Chinese Tibetan gambit which will be of the greatest concern to India and might spark off another conflict.Time to arm the Tibetan diaspora in their thousands upon thousands.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2 ... -tibet-dam

"Chinese engineers propose world's biggest hydro-electric project in TibetMega-dam on Yarlung Tsangpo river would save 200m tonnes of CO2 but could spark conflict over downstream water supply."

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Chinese hydropower lobbyists are calling for construction of the world's biggest hydro-electric project on the upper reaches of the Brahmaputra river as part of a huge expansion of renewable power in the Himalayas.

Zhang Boting, the deputy general secretary of the China Society for Hydropower Engineering, told the Guardian that a massive dam on the great bend of the Yarlung Tsangpo - the Tibetan name for the river - would benefit the world, despite the likely concerns of downstream nations, India and Bangladesh, which access water and power from the river.

Zhang said research had been carried out on the project, but no plan has been drawn up. But documents on the website of a government agency suggest a 38 gigawatt hydropower plant is under consideration that would be more than half as big again as the Three Gorges dam, with a capacity nearly half as large as the UK's national grid.

"This dam could save 200m tonnes of carbon each year. We should not waste the opportunity of the biggest carbon emission reduction project. For the sake of the entire world, all the water resources than can be developed should be developed." That CO2 saving would be over a third of the UK's entire emissions.

The mega-facility is among more than 28 dams on the river that are either planned, completed or under discussion by China, according to Tashi Tsering, a Tibetan scholar of environmental policy at the University of British Columbia.

Tsering publishes a map today of all of the projects that have been reported by Chinese newspapers and hydro-engineering websites.

From this, he concludes that the Tsangpo-Brahmaputra – until recently considered the last great undammed river in Tibet – will be the next focus of government efforts to increase the nation's power supply. One of them is a map of planned dams showing a 38-gigawatt hydro-plant at Motuo on the website of Hydro China, an influential government enterprise responsible for dam construction. A separate State Grid map of future transmission lines indicates the remote area will soon be connected to the rest of China's power supply. Hydro China and State Grid declined requests for clarification.

The government has not confirmed the existence of the scheme, but Tsering cites several newspaper reports of survey teams exploring the area and provides links to other online documents that indicate preparations for large-scale hydro-development of the area.

Given the huge expense, technical difficulties and political sensitivities of the scheme, it is far from certain of final approval by the government. But several Chinese hydroengineers see it as the ultimate goal in an accelerating race with India to develop water resources in one of the planet's last remote regions.

Tapping the power of the river as it bends and plunges from the Himalayan roof of the world down towards the Indian and Bangladeshi flood plains has long been a dream of the world's hydro-engineers.

Along with the Congo river at the Inga falls, this is considered one of the two greatest concentrations of river energy on earth, but it was long thought impossible to access because of the rugged, high-altitude terrain and the risk of water-related conflict with neighbouring countries.

But China has overcome many engineering obstacles with the construction of the railway to Tibet, and its growing energy demands are spurring exploration of ever more remote areas.

"Tibet's resources will be converted into economic advantage," Yan Zhiyong, the general manager of China Hydropower Engineering Consulting Group, told China Energy News earlier this year. "The major technical constraints on damming the Yarlung Tsampo have been overcome." He declined the Guardian's request for an interview, saying the subject was too sensitive.

The exploitation of the Brahmaputra is already under way. China recently announced plans to build five dams further upstream, including a 500MW hydroplant at Zangmu, which is under construction by the power utility Huaneng.

According to Tsering, the biggest of them will be a huge plant at the great bend – either at Metog, known as Motuo in Chinese, or at Daduqia. The former would involve the construction of a series of tunnels, pipes, reservoirs and turbines to exploit the spectacular 2,000-metre fall of the river as it curls down towards India.

Although there has been no official confirmation of plans for a dam, the discussion is far from secret. On a prominent Chinese science forum, Zhang said a dam on the great bend was the ultimate hope for water resource exploitation because it could generate energy equivalent to 100m tonnes of crude coal, or all the oil and gas in the South China sea.

He warned that a delay would allow India to tap these resources and prompt "major conflict" in a region where the two nations have sporadically clashed over disputed territory.

"We should build a hydropower plant in Motuo ... as soon as possible because it is a great policy to protect our territory from Indian invasion and to increase China's capacity for carbon reduction," he wrote last year

Any step forward is likely to be controversial. Tibetans consider Metog a sacred region, and environmental activists warn against building such a huge project in a seismically active and ecologically fragile area.

"A large dam on the Tibetan plateau would amount to a major, irreversible experiment with geo-engineering," said Peter Bosshard of International Rivers. "Blocking the Yarlung Tsangpo could devastate the fragile ecosystem of the Tibetan plateau, and would withhold the river's sediments from the fertile floodplains of Assam in north-east India, and Bangladesh."

China's construction of dams also raises the prospect of a race with India to develop hydropower along south Asia's most important river.

"India needs to be more aggressive in pushing ahead hydro projects (on the Brahmaputra)," Jairam Ramesh, the Indian environment minister, told the Guardian during a recent visit to Beijing. "That would put us in better negotiating position (with China).

To minimise the risk of water-related conflict, the two nations have agreed to share information about hydro-plans on the Tsangpo-Brahmaputra.

Indian media have raised concerns that Beijing may ultimately embark on a gigantic diversion scheme that would channel water away from India to the dry northern plains of China, but such fears are dismissed by Tsering, who says the dam at Metog would be for hydropower, not water diversion. "The laws of physics will not allow water diversion from the Great Bend."

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Chinese Economy Treads a Risky Path. (Just Ask Japan.)

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/26/world ... ijing.html
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seems like china is creating another headache for usa by proliferating missile tech to iran like north korea and pakistan

US mum over China's links to Iran
By Peter J Brown
China and the United States have been down a rocky road together over the past two decades with respect to China's missile technology transfers to Iran. Today, China's ongoing contributions to the buildup of Iran's missile forces warrant closer scrutiny.

The opening by Iran of a new missile production plant in March will enable Iran to further quickly expand its supply of Nasr anti-ship missiles. Although no Chinese officials attended the opening ceremony, there are Chinese footprints all around this facility. [1]

In addition, Iran is preparing to launch several satellites. As in the case of North Korea, each of these Iranian satellite launches will generate its own shockwave in the West, and will spark further debate about the inability of the US and its allies to deal effectively with Iran and its significant technological advances.
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President leaves for six-day China visit
IANSPosted on May 26, 2010 at 09:54 | Updated May 26, 2010 at 10:11
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/president-pr ... l?from=rhs
New Delhi: President Pratibha Patil on Wednesday left for Beijing on a six-day state visit to China during which she will meet President Hu Jintao, inaugurate an Indian-style Buddhist temple and also visit the Shanghai World Expo.
Pratibha will be joined by a 60-strong business delegation comprising members of all the three apex chambers of India. Besides Beijing, she will visit Shanghai and Luoyang.

During her visit from May 26 to May 31, she will meet her Chinese counterpart Hu Jintao in Beijing on Thursday. The two will discuss a range of bilateral, regional and global issues to invigorate relations between the two countries after a period of strain caused by border tensions.
Pratibha, who will be the first Indian head of state to visit China in 10 years, will meet top Chinese leaders, including National People's Congress Chairman Wu Bangguo and Premier Wen Jiabao.
Another highlight of her visit will be in Luoyang in Henan province, where she is scheduled to dedicate to the Chinese people an Indian-style Buddhist temple that was inspired by the Sanchi Stupa in Madhya Pradesh. The idea of the temple was proposed by the Chinese in 2003 when then prime minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee visited Luoyang where Buddhism is said to have first come from India.
The Indian style temple is adjacent to the White Horse Temple (Baima Si) built in the first century AD in honour of two Indian monks who travelled on horseback, carrying with them religious texts and an image of the Buddha. Pratibha is also scheduled to visit the White Horse Temple.
At the Shanghai World Expo, a six-month event that kicked off April 30, Pratibha will visit the India pavilion that has become a hot spot with 25,000 visitors every day thronging the stalls of handicrafts and cuisine, and jiving on Bollywood songs and dance.
In Shanghai, the president will also inaugurate the statue of Nobel Laureaute Rabindranath Tagore who visited the city in 1924.
The president's visit comes at a time when China has become India's largest trading partner. Bilateral trade between the two countries grew 34 per cent in 2008 to touch $ 51.8 billion, though in 2009 it slipped to $ 43.27 billion.
During her visit, she will be accompankied by Minister of Food Processing Industries Subodh Kant Sahay, MPs Jayanti Natarajan, Ramdas Agarwal and former Rural Development Minister Raghuvansh Prasad Singh will be part of the delegation, besides over 55 business executives.
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Acharya wrote:
President leaves for six-day China visit
IANSPosted on May 26, 2010 at 09:54 | Updated May 26, 2010 at 10:11
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/president-pr ... l?from=rhs
New Delhi: President Pratibha Patil on Wednesday left for Beijing on a six-day state visit to China during which she will meet President Hu Jintao, inaugurate an Indian-style Buddhist temple and also visit the Shanghai World Expo.
Pratibha will be joined by a 60-strong business delegation comprising members of all the three apex chambers of India. Besides Beijing, she will visit Shanghai and Luoyang.

During her visit from May 26 to May 31, she will meet her Chinese counterpart Hu Jintao in Beijing on Thursday. The two will discuss a range of bilateral, regional and global issues to invigorate relations between the two countries after a period of strain caused by border tensions.
Pratibha, who will be the first Indian head of state to visit China in 10 years, will meet top Chinese leaders, including National People's Congress Chairman Wu Bangguo and Premier Wen Jiabao.
Another highlight of her visit will be in Luoyang in Henan province, where she is scheduled to dedicate to the Chinese people an Indian-style Buddhist temple that was inspired by the Sanchi Stupa in Madhya Pradesh. The idea of the temple was proposed by the Chinese in 2003 when then prime minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee visited Luoyang where Buddhism is said to have first come from India.
The Indian style temple is adjacent to the White Horse Temple (Baima Si) built in the first century AD in honour of two Indian monks who travelled on horseback, carrying with them religious texts and an image of the Buddha. Pratibha is also scheduled to visit the White Horse Temple.
At the Shanghai World Expo, a six-month event that kicked off April 30, Pratibha will visit the India pavilion that has become a hot spot with 25,000 visitors every day thronging the stalls of handicrafts and cuisine, and jiving on Bollywood songs and dance.
In Shanghai, the president will also inaugurate the statue of Nobel Laureaute Rabindranath Tagore who visited the city in 1924.
The president's visit comes at a time when China has become India's largest trading partner. Bilateral trade between the two countries grew 34 per cent in 2008 to touch $ 51.8 billion, though in 2009 it slipped to $ 43.27 billion.
During her visit, she will be accompankied by Minister of Food Processing Industries Subodh Kant Sahay, MPs Jayanti Natarajan, Ramdas Agarwal and former Rural Development Minister Raghuvansh Prasad Singh will be part of the delegation, besides over 55 business executives.

This is significant. India & Indian-ness was considered haram for a long time. Its positive sign that China is at ease with her Indian-influenced past.

“CHINESE CIVILIZATION VIS-À-VIS EASTERN AND WESTERN PHILOSOPHIES” By Liang Shuming

Beginning around 1917, Chinese intellectuals began to engage each other in serious discussion and debate on
culture, history, philosophy, and related subjects — all with an eye to the bigger problem of China’s weakness and
the possible solutions to that problem. This period of intellectual debate, labeled the May Fourth Movement, lasted
to around 1921.
What attitude should we Chinese hold now? What should we select from the three cultures? {Western, Indian, Chinese}
We may say:
1. We must reject the Indian attitude absolutely and completely. {How can they reject the Indian attitude if it is not present in them in the first place ?}
2. We must accept Western culture as a whole [including conquest of nature, science, and
democracy] but make some fundamental changes. That is to say, we must change the
Western attitude somewhat [from intellection to intuition].
3. We must renew our Chinese attitude and bring it to the fore, but do so critically.
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Chinese attitude without the influence of Buddhism?! It is as asinine as the Pakis trying to reject their Indian subcontinental heritage,as early as Mohenjo Daro (now in Pak) trying in vain to relocate their nation's heritage to the deserts of Arabia,next door to the holy city of Mecca!
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Power Grid norms to hit Chinese gear

About time.
"While their rates are very cheap, there is a quality concern," S.K. Chaturvedi told the paper, referring to Chinese products.
India has also tightened imports of Chinese telecom equipment. Industry officials have said the government is blocking orders from firms including Huawei and ZTE due to security concerns.
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...a single city, Chongqing, last month unveiled plans to invest one trillion renminbi ($146.4 billion) in 323 projects.
NYT: China's Land Rush
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China for greater Indian role

Since Rajeev(1989) most of our heads go to China and each time EDITED do a camaraderie only to retreat after few days :roll:
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Reason: do not use that word.
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China Announces Development Plan for Restive Xinjiang Region

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/29/world ... china.html
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Nirantar wrote:China for greater Indian role

Since Rajeev(1989) most of our heads go to China and each time chinks do a camaraderie only to retreat after few days :roll:
Nirantar ji,

Thats not a good word to use in gentlemanly conversation. Most people in India are not aware of the negative connotation it carries. Ofcourse I'm sure that you did not mean it in any racist, prejudicial, hateful way. Just thought I'd share.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chink
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naren ji, please use the report post function for such instances, it's not possible for mods to be everywhere reading everything.
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At Wen Jiabao’s annual press conference in March this year, which lasted 150 minutes as against Dr Manmohan Singh’s 75-minute press meet last week, PTI’s Beijing correspondent asked him if India and China can be “good friends and good neighbours”. After a lengthy reply, replete with facts and figures about the growing economic ties between Delhi and Beijing, Wen Jiabao said, “I wish to ask this reporter to send my message back to the Indian people that China and India are not competitors, we are friends. I wish to conclude by quoting from an ancient Indian scripture, probably written more than 3,000 years ago in Sanskrit, that is in the title of ‘Upanishad’. It is to the effect: ‘May He protect us both together. May He nourish us both together. May we conjointly work with great energy. May our study be vigorous and effective. May we not hate anyone. Let there be peace, let there be peace, let there be peace.’” How many Indian leaders have paid similar heartfelt tribute to the pearls of wisdom in Chinese history?

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/inspi ... o/626901/0
Signs of change emanating within China: Dalai Lama

Shoumojit Banerjee

Patna: “There have been many incidents in the recent past which are indicative of strong change within the People's Republic of China,” said the Dalai Lama on Thursday.

In Patna to inaugurate the Buddha Smriti park set up to commemorate the 2550th year of Lord Buddha's ‘Mahaparinirvana,' the Tibetan religious leader noted that there were strong signs of socio-political change emanating from within the country.

Alluding to China's revised policy on minorities to substantiate his theory of changing political currents within the country, the Dalai Lama further stated that during the last two years, more than 200 Chinese writers had authored almost a thousand articles which were supportive and sympathetic to the question of Tibetan autonomy.

“Historically, China was a nation with strong Buddhist affiliations,” he said, speaking to journalists after the event. “There are more than 200 million Chinese Buddhists, which is more than the total number of Buddhists residing in India,” he noted, remarking that “even leaders of the Kuomintang (the Chinese Nationalist Party), including Chiang Kai-shek, had had Buddhist relatives.”

http://www.hindu.com/2010/05/28/stories ... 681600.htm
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Chinese Foreign Policy and Domestic decisionmaking

Asia Policy


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The Basics of Chinapol
Richard Baum

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Diplomatic dilemma posed by Chinese waiter who walked to India
A Chinese waiter has presented India with an unusual diplomatic conundrum by claiming asylum after apparently walking across the remote Himalayan border between Tibet and the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh.

Guan Liang, 28, was detained in Arunachal on May 18 and is now being questioned by Home Ministry and Army Intelligence officials, T Ringu, the Superintendent of Police Special Branch in Arunachal, told The Times.

Newspapers said Mr Guan fled to India after police raided his restaurant in Beijing over e-mails he sent complaining about human rights abuses committed by the Chinese Army and police. But Mr Ringu was unable to provide further details about Mr Guan’s background, how he travelled such a vast distance across China and why he chose to cross into Arunachal, one of India’s most militarily sensitive states.

The case is a rare example, possibly the first ever, of a Chinese national, other than a Tibetan, seeking asylum in India. It also comes as India and China try to ease tensions over several issues, particularly China’s territorial claims over Arunachal.
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Dealing with rising China
Its strategy to contain India unchanged by G. Parthasarathy
Did Mr Ramesh go through the detailed studies that have been made about Chinese efforts to undermine communications and cyber security in India before making his intemperate comments on foreign soil? Do we not live today in a world where countries, especially emerging powers, compete, cooperate and sometimes even confront each other? The Prime Minister reportedly admonished Mr Ramesh for his comments. One, however, doubts whether his ministerial colleagues are going to become more disciplined in this era of coalition politics
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/02/busin ... honda.html
Chinese Honda Strike a Wake-Up Call for Japan
“Japan is starting to realize that the age of cheap wages in China is coming to an end, and companies that looked to China only for lower costs need to change course,” said Tomoo Marukawa, a specialist on the Chinese economy at Tokyo University.
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 008692.cms
On Wednesday, China scrubbed a proposed visit later this week by US Defense Secretary Robert Gates, in a sign of continued friction in relations between the two sides over American arms sales to Taiwan and disagreement over the Korean spat.
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Extraordinary hubris of the Chinese elite on India.
http://beta.thehindu.com/news/internati ... 445836.ece
Reflecting the changed dynamic in ties between China and the U.S., and China's growing confidence regarding its presence in the region, strategic analysts in Beijing this week played down the significance of the dialogue in Washington, in a departure from the more anxious tones routinely struck last year.

Hu Shisheng, a South Asia scholar at the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations, described the talks as “more ceremonial than effective”.

“The U.S. has already held many such dialogues with China and Pakistan, and now India needs to verify its importance to the U.S. through the same channel,” he told the China Daily. “The U.S. may hope to get from India what it failed to get from China, and through a strengthened cooperation with another Asian giant, pressure China on many issues.”

http://www.hindustantimes.com/China-for ... 49411.aspx
The Great Hall, on the western edge of Tiananmen Square, is China's political hub. It functions as the headquarters of the National People's Congress as well as the parliament of the People's Republic of China.
"Our President specifically raised the (SC) point. China said it understands and supports India's aspiration for greater role in the UN, particularly the SC. And it has sought India's cooperation for reforming and expanding the SC," Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao said in a briefing.
Expansion of SC means room for India as a permanent member, something New Delhi has been pursuing for years. The shot at the non-permanent seat for 2011-12 has given New Delhi a reason to up the ante.
"Our assessment is that the Chinese leadership was not guarded or diplomatic in supporting India's UN aspiration. They said they were listening very carefully to what we say, and that there was a legitimacy in our bid for permanent seat in the SC," Rao said.
So the PRC is watching how the Indian leadership/elite talks to them and also checks on how the Indo US strategic dialogue is going on. They want to find out if there is any signs which will put them in the lower order. If they detect anything which makes them lower they will take action thru Pakistan or in the border.

When is India watching the US PRC dialogue and trade
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China climbs supercomputing ranks rapidly

http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/guest/25272/
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Gates snub raises tough questions about China ties

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts ... china_ties
Beijing's refusal to accept Defense Secretary Robert Gates's offer to visit China this week has exposed divisions inside the Chinese Communist Party structure and is also causing Washington to take a hard look at what's now seen as an overly optimistic view of the current state of the relationship.

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"Nearly all of the aspects of the relationship between the United States and China are moving forward in a positive direction, with the sole exception of the military-to-military relationship ... the PLA [People's Liberation Army] is significantly less interested in this relationship than the political leadership of China." Gates said Thursday in a rare open rebuke of the Chinese military.

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At the May dialogue in Beijing, that dichotomy was exposed during bilateral meetings in an unusually open way. In what were otherwise constructive, albeit predictable exchanges, "The Chinese representative from the PLA ... could not have been more out of step with the meeting," a senior U.S. official told reporters during the plane ride back to Washington.
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On Hukou (the comments carry some references).
http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archi ... /hukou.php
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What does China want?

By Fareed Zakaria

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02924.html
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China's Cheonan Dilemma
We take it for granted that North Korea is dependent on China, but key parts of China are dependent on North Korea as well.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... an_dilemma
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Chinese Government to Purchase Stake in U.S. Semiconductor Firm
The investment would represent China's first ownership stake in the firm behind part of its home-grown Loongson processor.
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While China questions India's decision to block Huawei products in a majority of telecom circles, here's an article from the Sydney Morning Herald's political editor, Peter Harcher.

China, A rising Power: In China, the party always starts at the top
"On the desks of the heads of China's fifty-odd biggest state companies," he writes, "sits a red phone." The Chinese call it the "red machine", part of an encrypted, closed system connecting the 300 or so top party officials who run China.
So Chinalco and 50 leading state-owned firms are not simply commercial enterprises. They are extensions of the state and tools of the party. Next time one makes a bid for a major overseas asset, we need to understand who is making the bid, and the implications of what this could mean.
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Behind Gusts of a Military Chill: A More Forceful China

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/09/world ... ijing.html
If anyone ever doubted it, a testy exchange at a Singapore conference last weekend made it clear: relations between the American and Chinese militaries are in a very deep freeze.
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Dubai, Jun 8 : India has replaced China as the largest trading
partner for the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) as trade between India and the GCC grew at a whopping rate of 50 per cent every year between 2004 and 2008, a recent report by the Dubai Chamber of Commerce and Industry said.

http://www.newkerala.com/news/fullnews-123157.html
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Karan Dixit wrote:Dubai, Jun 8 : India has replaced China as the largest trading
partner for the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) as trade between India and the GCC grew at a whopping rate of 50 per cent every year between 2004 and 2008, a recent report by the Dubai Chamber of Commerce and Industry said.

http://www.newkerala.com/news/fullnews-123157.html
I am working with Indian trading groups in Dubai and they have really penetrated most of the countries including CAS - Kazakhstan.
These guys give me stories about all the places.
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Dirtiest place on the planet

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/0 ... f=obinsite

Linfen, China. Video footage is a must see. Spending one day there is equalivant to smoking three packs of cigarettes.
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