Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 21, 2010

derkonig · Post by **derkonig** » 28 May 2010 16:46

Update: raakitmards halal 30..
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 985039.cms

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 28 May 2010 16:53

A retired Major General Naseer Ahmed is among the dead.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 28 May 2010 17:05

There is a gunman still free on the top floor of the Garhi Shahu mosque. Apparently gunmen started firing at a gas station next door (maybe trying to set it on fire) and police operations are halted for a while.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 28 May 2010 17:06

The terrorist who was captured alive and intact had a suicide vest on. It appears the Model Town mosque had 3 attackers; one badly injured, one blew himself up; and the third captured intact.

The second mosque - still not clear even how many attackers were there.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 28 May 2010 17:16

'Partition Ghosts' in TFT

This is by an Indian writer, Rakesh Mani

When Jinnah, now leader of the Muslim League, negotiated with the Congress to avoid Partition, he stayed clear of separate electorates but lobbied instead, for reserved Muslim seats. This was the League’s irreducible demand, which Nehru bitterly opposed.

Sixty years on, India’s ruling parties have been willing to give reserved seats to Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes and now, women. More than half of India benefits from reservations. But they refuse to extend the same courtesy to Muslims. Which prompts the Indian Muslim Question: if reservations are a good idea for every other disadvantaged minority group, then why not us?

More than sixty years after Partition, there are still many Indians who believe that Pakistan is nothing more than the fluke creation of one man’s machinations – an accident of history. There is little understanding of the scale of demand for a separate Muslim homeland, or the aspirations that India’s Muslims felt. Because when thinking of Partition and Pakistan, it is only the Pakistanis who feel they gained a country. Most Indians still feel that they lost a third of theirs.

The Indian sense of loss stems from a disbelief that the majority of Indian Muslims wanted Partition at all. Today, there are almost as many Muslims in India as in Pakistan, who have their own share of troubles but still identify their nationality as purely Indian.

Historically, it was only the Muslim elite who shared Jinnah’s ideologies. Most of the Muslim peasantry supported the Congress, along with the influential Deoband seminary. From the Pakistani perspective, as the Indian commentator MJ Akbar has written, the Indian Muslims turned out to be a particularly difficult entity for Pakistan to come to terms with, for they challenged the very foundations of their nation by rejecting the two-nation theory.

Perhaps the Indian disbelief stems from the fact that most Indian school textbooks are silent on the 1945-46 provincial elections in which the Muslim League routed the Congress for the Muslim seats on offer, effectively settling the question of Partition.

The grand icons in this epic saga – Gandhi, Nehru, Jinnah, Patel and Iqbal – are variously worshipped and demonized in present-day India and Pakistan. As former Foreign Minister Sartaj Aziz writes in his book, Between Dreams and Realities , “events are seen through coloured glasses, conclusions are rooted in preconceived notions and heroes and villains are identified within this biased framework.”

Few of us, on either side of Wagah, have seen these men as merely human. They were born of the Subcontinent’s tryst with adversity, change and modernity. As one writer described them, “brilliant and flawed individuals, trying to make sense of their own surroundings to invoke images of their future.” In doing so, however, it so happened that they collectively altered the history and geography of the region forever.

The complex and opposing stories of these men are rich and worthy of being told and retold, and cast in different dyes. And the legends and fairy-tales that have grown up around them must be broken so that the people of the Subcontinent can examine for themselves how modern India and Pakistan came to be, and how their relationship evolved.

After all, how did a barrister and a loyal British subject become a Mahatma; how did a thoroughly Anglicized scion of a wealthy family become a Pandit; and how did a simple Gujarati boy grow into a Savile Row-clad barrister before settling as a Quaid. How did these men, guided by self and nation, come together to dismantle the British Raj and yet, finally part ways when the end was near.

And perhaps that was just as well. Because deep-seated religious divides would have fractured political and social debate in an undivided India between 800 million Hindus and 500 million Muslims. Consensus on key issues would have been impossible, and development would have suffered immeasurably. Just keeping the monstrosity of a country together would have zapped all energy and, in an undivided India, separate electorates would have been the order of the day.

The stirrings of the Pakistan movement around the time of independence had nothing to do with a hatred of India. It was the product of the desires of masses of people that was originally stoked by Gandhi and later, given a shape and a voice by Jinnah.

Partition was less about land than about what kind of rule the provinces would have once the British left. The politics of Pakistan is about how to capture the teeming desires in the hearts of ordinary Muslims and turn it into a constitution. Politics in India, on the other hand, is about how to pander equally to a smorgasbord of desires. It is about practicing a queer brand of secularism that keeps an unlikely country constitutionally glued together.

As the politician and scholar Rafiq Zakaria, wrote, the partition of India was the partition of its Muslims. They were divided first in 1947 and then in 1971 to form three communities, each cut off from the other, politically and culturally. But the Hindus were united by Partition, having left Pakistan and, for the most part, Bangladesh.

Without Partition, the fault line of politics in an undivided nation would have been Hindu versus Muslim. All debate and progress would have begun and ended on those lines, making consensus of key issues impossible. It has been said that Jinnah understood that right from the start. Nehru and Patel understood it much later, and agreed to Partition. Gandhi never understood it; if he did, he never accepted it.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 28 May 2010 17:23

Ahmedis are worse than Jews: Punjabi Taliban

Talking to rediff.com, Mansoor Maawia, a purported spokesperson for Punjabi Taliban said, "No Ahmadi would live with peace in Pakistan. Our war against them and their followers will continue."

Maawia added, "Today's attack was carried out by Punjabi Taliban, it is a high value target as Ahmadis are as worst infidels as Jews are. They have controlled the affairs of the country and implement Jewish agendas in Pakistan. Our war against Jews, Ahmadis and their followers will continue."

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 28 May 2010 17:45

Yawn also refers to the mosque as 'place of worship' and the sect as 'minority religion'...thats good because now porki animals cannot claim 'we are also victims of terror' because they are NOT the victims, they are THE terrorists.

hulaku · Post by **hulaku** » 28 May 2010 18:00

Lahore attacks toll continues to rise: 62 killed

http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=105622

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 28 May 2010 18:18

As of 8:30 AM US EST, the death toll was 68 and climbing.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 28 May 2010 18:19

derkonig wrote:Update: raakitmards halal 30..
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 985039.cms

Its kind of interesting. TOI-let paper used (in some cases still) to call the terrorists in Indian attacks "militants" but when it comes to Pakis they are terrorists?

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 28 May 2010 18:25

SSridhar wrote:'Partition Ghosts' in TFT

This is by an Indian writer, Rakesh Mani
When Jinnah, now leader of the Muslim League, negotiated with the Congress to avoid Partition, he stayed clear of separate electorates but lobbied instead, for reserved Muslim seats. This was the League’s irreducible demand, which Nehru bitterly opposed.

http://sites.google.com/site/cabinetmis ... lectorates

In the run-up to independence, from the 1920s onward, Congress offered Muslims reserved constituencies with joint electorates in proportion of population instead of separate electorates. In reserved constituencies for Muslims, only Muslim candidates would stand for election; the voters, however, would be the entire adult electorate in that constituency belonging to all communities. The British however always topped every Congress offer by granting Muslims separate electorates with weightages. The Communal Award in 1932 also awarded separate electorates to another community, the Depressed Classes, but subsequently, the Poona Pact exchanged that separate electorate provision for Depressed Classes with reserved constituencies

ajit_tr · Post by **ajit_tr** » 28 May 2010 20:23

OT let me put myself in the shoes of ahmed qurashi and zaid hamid type to see what explaination they come up with for the lahore attack.In wake of PA pulling fast one on usa by refusing to go into north waziristan as BILL ROGGIO report points out What are the chance of usa's involvement.Last year too before PA went into swat it was flared up.same thing happned before PA went into SW;when there were series of attacks in lahore.What are the chances that PA or usa has staged managed this for reason to gointo NW???

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 May 2010 20:33

This is not a Pakiban style attack on state institutions. Its a dark green on pale green sectarian attack. More pious on less pious. More signs of Islamization underway.

More importantly what did the Ahmediyas do lately for this attack or were they the weakest element and ripe for attack?

Is this to show TSP internal situation is very bad to preclude ops in badlands?

TTP is a sarkari outfit.

surinder · Post by **surinder** » 28 May 2010 20:38

+ Ahmadiyas are an affluent and influential community. They are peaceful & less aggressive than RoPers, and have bigger stake in the fields that would make a good nation proud.

+ Model Town was a planned area that came up in the suburbs of Lahore a couple of decades before TSP came into being. It was a planned coummunity with large houses, plenty of green space/parks. Gagan's photos shows the central circular park with spokes. There used be good transportation to downtown Lahore in those days. The Rai Bahadur's, the elite, the rich, the famous, anyone who was anyone, lived there. Yes, you guessed it, 99% of residents were Sikhs/Hindus. RoP folowers were woefully absent, as they were (in pre-partition) punjab not rich, but the dregs of the society. Kabir Bedi's father lived there, so did Sachar and host of others like Amrita Shergill's family.

+ When 1947 partition riots came, the Hindu/Sikhs were kicked out of Model Town and all propety taken over. Who ever wanted to take whichever property they took it. Model Town is Maal-e-ghanimat.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 28 May 2010 20:51

http://criticalppp.org/lubp/archives/11643

Reproduced in full

First of all I condemn the attack on two Ahmedi mosques in Lahore. What is more condemnable is the media reporting of the incident. The term “dehshatgard ” which is usually used for terrorists is changed with term “hamla-awar” (invaders). Masjid /Mosque is changed with the term Ibadatgah (place of worship) . Ahmedi is changed with Qadyani. Namazi is changed with Ibadatgar .

Let’s hope this ugly incident doesn’t end up like Gojra tragedy where Taliban mentors sitting in the Lahore High Court and Punjab Government were clearly found saving the culprits.

Is it a mere coincidence that this tragic incident in which at least 70 innocent Pakistanis have lost their lives happened only a few days after a hate and violence inciting phone conversation between Geo TV’s anchor Hamid Mir and a Sipah-e-Sahaba terrorist Usman Punjabi?

Also see
http://criticalppp.org/lubp/archives/11662

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 May 2010 20:55

A_Gupta wrote:The terrorist who was captured alive and intact had a suicide vest on. It appears the Model Town mosque had 3 attackers; one badly injured, one blew himself up; and the third captured intact.

The second mosque - still not clear even how many attackers were there.

Captured alive with sooisai vest!

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 28 May 2010 21:08

Suppiah wrote:Yawn also refers to the mosque as 'place of worship' and the sect as 'minority religion'...thats good because now porki animals cannot claim 'we are also victims of terror' because they are NOT the victims, they are THE terrorists.

Let's see how Ahmedia sect responds to this. They should come out of Islam officially and become a pagan religion. Same goes with Shia's too.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 28 May 2010 21:11

Perhaps the terrorist wanted to taste the reputed biriyani in Lahore jail before he is set free.

Will pakistan ever find witness to prove that that man was indeed an attacker at a ahmedi mosque two years from now? After all most pakistanis secretly believe that Ahmediyas are 'Wajib-e-katl'.

The pakistani security forces would surely have made a convincing argument to make that suicide bomber change his mind.

I suspect they would have said, "You have earned your pious marks by killing quadianis, your afterlife and 72 are secure. Now let us pay you some homage by offering you the best biriyani in town"

Man these guys are in the dark ages.

Rahul Shukla · Post by **Rahul Shukla** » 28 May 2010 21:13

Pigeon held in India on suspicion of spying (AFP)

NEW DELHI — Indian police are holding a pigeon under armed guard after it was caught on an alleged spying mission for arch rivals and neighbours Pakistan, media reported on Friday. The white-coloured bird was found by a local resident in India's Punjab state, which borders Pakistan, and taken to a police station 40 kilometres (25 miles) from the capital Amritsar. The pigeon had a ring around its foot and a Pakistani phone number and address stamped on its body in red ink.

Police officer Ramdas Jagjit Singh Chahal told the Press Trust of India (PTI) news agency that they suspected the pigeon may have landed on Indian soil from Pakistan with a message, although no trace of a note has been found. Officials have directed that no-one should be allowed to visit the pigeon, which police say may have been on a "special mission of spying". The bird has been medically examined and was being kept in an air-conditioned room under police guard. Senior officers have asked to be kept updated on the situation three times a day, PTI said.

Chahal said local pigeon fanciers in the sensitive border area had told police that Pakistani pigeons were easily identifiable as they look different from Indian ones, according to the Indian Express newspaper.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 28 May 2010 21:19

RamaY wrote:"Suppiah"]Yawn also refers to the mosque as 'place of worship' and the sect as 'minority religion'...thats good because now porki animals cannot claim 'we are also victims of terror' because they are NOT the victims, they are THE terrorists.

Let's see how Ahmedia sect responds to this. They should come out of Islam officially and become a pagan religion. Same goes with Shia's too.[/quote]

Kadiya is in India , these fellow should be granted asylem as long as they become part of Dharmic Indic community. No reason for them to be served as Sushi to Pakislamic forces.

mayo · Post by **mayo** » 28 May 2010 21:26

Looks satirical to me. Too absurd to be true.

Rahul Shukla wrote:Pigeon held in India on suspicion of spying (AFP)

NEW DELHI — Indian police are holding a pigeon under armed guard after it was caught on an alleged spying mission for arch rivals and neighbours Pakistan, media reported on Friday. The white-coloured bird was found by a local resident in India's Punjab state, which borders Pakistan, and taken to a police station 40 kilometres (25 miles) from the capital Amritsar. The pigeon had a ring around its foot and a Pakistani phone number and address stamped on its body in red ink.

Police officer Ramdas Jagjit Singh Chahal told the Press Trust of India (PTI) news agency that they suspected the pigeon may have landed on Indian soil from Pakistan with a message, although no trace of a note has been found. Officials have directed that no-one should be allowed to visit the pigeon, which police say may have been on a "special mission of spying". The bird has been medically examined and was being kept in an air-conditioned room under police guard. Senior officers have asked to be kept updated on the situation three times a day, PTI said.

Chahal said local pigeon fanciers in the sensitive border area had told police that Pakistani pigeons were easily identifiable as they look different from Indian ones, according to the Indian Express newspaper.

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 28 May 2010 21:29

Prem wrote:Kadiya is in India , these fellow should be granted asylem as long as they become part of Dharmic Indic community. No reason for them to be served as Sushi to Pakislamic forces.

True... Just like Shaiva, Vaishnava and Sikh, Ahmediya is a religion of Indian origin.. They should be declared and accepted as part of Hindu-Conglomerate.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 28 May 2010 21:33

First that sect should publicly and vocally claim that they are not part of Islam. Of course they can opt to stay within Islam and get butchered.

surinder · Post by **surinder** » 28 May 2010 21:40

Prem wrote:Kadiya is in India , these fellow should be granted asylem as long as they become part of Dharmic Indic community. No reason for them to be served as Sushi to Pakislamic forces.

Not the very least. They are, and will remain, rully RoP, at best a slightly less deviant variant of RoP. If Kadiaanis were mostly in India alone, TSP would have embraced them with full vigor and be a champion of their rights in India.

They should stay in TSP, or better still migrate to UK.

Bhima · Post by **Bhima** » 28 May 2010 21:42

They should state they are Muslims along with adding that the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is not safe for them to practice Islam.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 28 May 2010 21:44

Guys, what is with this penchant for owning up a religion? Did even one Ahmediya say that he wants to be a pagan or join some religion as a sub sect hain?
The ahmediyas call themselves muslims, and that is where the matter should rest. Let them practice their religion as they see fit.

It is their misfortune that they happened to be in today's pakistan. Pakistan has to solve this bullshit they created by themselves. There are severe H&D issues for the pakistanis and they will delay solving this religious bigotry that they've encouraged.

Until then the world will have to witness murder and mayhem as Pakistanis kill other Pakistanis.

surinder · Post by **surinder** » 28 May 2010 21:47

Were any of them opposers of the 2-nation theory in 1947? India did not demolish Qadiayan site is more than enough of a favor to them. They made their bed, let them lie on it (or die on it, as the case may be).

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 28 May 2010 21:57

surinder wrote:Were any of them opposers of the 2-nation theory in 1947? India did not demolish Qadiayan site is more than enough of a favor to them. They made their bed, let them lie on it (or die on it, as the case may be).

Kadiyan did committ themselves to Mr. Zina for producing Peekistan but exodus must start somewhere and they are the prime candidate .

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 28 May 2010 21:58

I don't think it is correct to say that India did them a favour by not demolishing Kadiya.
Sir-ji india is secular, we don't do things like that, but we do ourselves a disfavour by killing people in religious riots.

ajit_tr · Post by **ajit_tr** » 28 May 2010 22:02

X-posting...

http://tribune.com.pk/story/16593/dynam ... operation/

we look at the ground situation prevailing in Fata and Pakhtunkhwa, the army is overstretched. Stiff resistance is being faced in Orakzai Agency. Tirah valley in Khyber Agency will be a big thorn when the time comes to clear it. And parts of Mohmand and Bajaur have yet to be cleared.

In these conditions making troops available for a major operation in NWA will not be feasible. Already a major chunk of army is busy in active operations. Relocating troops from any operationally active area may result in providing breathing space to Taliban and thus giving them a chance to reorganise. Besides, keeping in mind North Waziristan’s terrain, there may be heavy causalities to our troops. The same goes for artillery guns, not counting the wear and tear to the rest of the equipment.

The Taliban in the agency such as Hafiz Gul Bahadur, Maulvi Nazir and Jalaluddin Haqqani have rarely attacked the Pakistan army or carried out terrorist activities inside the country. Hence, eliminating all pro-Pakistan elements before any meaningful dialogue takes place in Afghanistan will not be in our interest. We may be left with only Gulbadin Hekmatyar’s Hizb-i-Islami as the only pro-Pakistan group. Also, Kashmiri mujahideen and Lashkar-i-Jhangvi (commonly known as Punjabi Taliban) are present in the area and dealing with them requires an altogether different strategy than the tribal militants.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 28 May 2010 22:02

Until then the world will have to witness murder and mayhem as Pakistanis kill other Pakistanis

To quote from the Planet of the Apes

(R)APE has killed (R)APE

amdavadi · Post by **amdavadi** » 28 May 2010 22:04

Qadiayani made what is paquistan today. They are as responsible as TSPA for what pakis have turn into. They were at fore front to divide india & get themselves an islamic state. They did get an islamic state, but state no longer considers them part of Islam.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 28 May 2010 22:23

sanjaykumar wrote:Until then the world will have to witness murder and mayhem as Pakistanis kill other Pakistanis

To quote from the Planet of the Apes

(R)APE has killed (R)APE

APE= Arabised Paki Elite.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 28 May 2010 22:33

They are targetting because they spoke against Shehzad
They have their own media
http://ahmadiyyatimes.blogspot.com/

http://www.examiner.com/x-22966-Chicago ... m-Examiner

Muslims demand loyalty to America - as part of faith
May 19, 8:15 AMChicago Islam

Can a Muslim be loyal to America without going back on his faith? While Muslims from all over America have already condemned the attempted bombing in Times Square, one Muslim group is taking the lead and asking all Muslims to remain loyal to this nation. Should a person feel their loyalties lie elsewhere, and terrorism is they only method they find to express themselves, such persons are asked to leave our great nation.
Dr. Faheem Younus, President of the USA Ahmadiyya Muslim Community Youth Association spoke at a press conference in New York. He emphasized that Islam condemns violence, re-emphasized the Islamic requirements of loyalty, and offered solutions to those who are torn between their faith and loyalty.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/fo ... 7_ST_N.htm

Shahzad hails from Pakistan, a place where those extremist ideas were born. The country stands today as an unfortunate example of religious abuse. I know this because I belong to the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, a denomination that is severely persecuted in that country.

About 100 years ago, the community's founder claimed to be the awaited Muslim Messiah. Because he categorically rejected any violent notion of jihad, a belief contrary to the extremist Muslim clerics, he and subsequently the Ahmadiyya Community were targeted for religious persecution. Since the 1980s, the clerics forced through actual amendments to the Pakistani constitution that prohibit, with penalty of imprisonment, members of my faith from so much as offering the Muslim greeting. Several of our mosques and offices have been bombed and members have been murdered — all in the name of Islam.

But does Islam really stand for the intolerant policy observed in Pakistan? Not by a long shot.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 May 2010 22:39

Good catch. Seems plausible that TSPA guards are warning the kabila (inside and outside) not to consort with massa. And now makes sense why TTP (Punjab), a sarkari outfit claimed the honors for the evil deed. And recall it was same gang that claimed Shahzad's handiwork in Times Square before it was known to be a fizzle.

So this attack on Ahmediya mosque is related to uncle in a way.

saip · Post by **saip** » 28 May 2010 22:44

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/fo ... 7_ST_N.htm

See the comments section under this link. Someone called 'Drop Fatboy' has an interesting theory and he supports it with 'statistics'
His argument seems to fit Pakis perfectly!

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 28 May 2010 22:44

http://criticalppp.org/lubp/archives/11677
Reproduced in full

My condolences to the Ahmedia sect. I want to tell them that Pakistan is full of savages. These savages are indoctrinated, they cannot be argued or be reasoned with. They don’t know why they are doing it, but they will keep on doing it. After all, our ruling elite needed zombies to help us attain the strategic depth. The depth where we could hide our nuclear arsenal. But that depth needed some blood for our newly adopted pets. That was wiered but that’s how we defined the chemistry of our new savage pets. Not for a moment our ruling elite ( read Establishment ) had to sweat over the thought. They knew their was some cheap blood available. The blood of Shias, Christians and Ahmedis. Over each spell of blood donation the majority of Pakistanis were fed the loathsome commentaries and the carnage would be trivialized under the guise of ‘sectarianism’.

The weak political governments were always blind folded. They would be constantlty kepts in a state of insecurity of their own. Constant conspiracies would push the weak governmnets to forge alliances with very those elements who had a blood soaked past. That was the technique adopted for their survival during the temporary spells of democratic governments. The recent Judiciary and media activism is also targetting the moderate forces but at the same time it is acquitting the notorious sectarian criminals. The media plays down the similar unfortunate events and the public opinion is distrated with non-issues. Resulting in a repeitition of similar events. How can we ignore the bloodshed and loss of human life by overbeating corruption scandals. By this I am not favoring any corruption, if their are traces, the culprtits should be prosecuted but no..certainly not at the cost of human life. How can we ignore the massive killings? This ain’t right.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 May 2010 22:48

I read the op-ed by the Ahmediya doctor in the USA Today.

Off topic but can a TSP origin Muslim do anything in his own capacity without dragging in Isalm? Even private charity/compassionate work has to be done in Islam's name!

Such being the case, when they do bad stuff, is the overarching umbrella under which they do things doesn't apply?

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 28 May 2010 22:55

Shiv, Raza Habib Raja isn't an alias of yours?
Change some pronouns and this could almost have been written by you.
http://pakteahouse.wordpress.com/2010/0 ... i-mindset/

An excerpt:

And even when such attacks are conducted against the general public they are conveniently blamed on the grand conspiracy of USA. THE CENTRAL ISSUE IS OF OUR MINDSET WHICH IS DELUSIONAL AND HAS BEEN NURTURED THROUGH ISLAMIC MYTHOLOGY ACCORDING TO WHICH MUSLIMS ARE SUPERIOR IN CALIBRE AS WELL AS VIRTUE AND THEREFORE CANNOT INDULGE IN ANYTHING SINISTER LIKE TERRORISM. In Pakistan, this pattern of thinking is also supplemented by a strong dose of ultra nationalism which assumes Pakistan with its nuclear arsenal to be spearheading the revival of the lost glory of Islam. Primarily this mindset is outward looking and assumes that due to Pakistan’s “supreme” importance in the above context, all the non Muslim forces are jealous and therefore trying to create a conducive environment to purge our nuclear arsenal through planting extremism.

According to this delusional mindset, the key conspirator is USA which due to its Jewish appeasement and own insecurities against resurgence of glorious Islam is trying to destabilize Pakistan to find an excuse to purge its nuclear arsenal. INHERENTLY RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY IS ALSO STRONGLY IMBEDDED IN THIS MINDSET BECAUSE OF ASSUMED SUPERIORITY OF “PURE” MUSLIMS AND DEEP SUSPICION OF NON MUSLIMS. Consequently even those sects such as Ahmedis who identify themselves as Muslims are often called agents planted by the British and later on USA to wreck havoc in the Islamic world’s “unity”. Hatred against non Muslims and conspiracy theories become the main paradigm through which we see the world.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 28 May 2010 22:56

ramana wrote:
Such being the case, when they do bad stuff, is the overarching umbrella under which they do things doesn't apply?

Because they believe that Islam will never be defeated and Allah is on their side.