Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 21, 2010

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 29 May 2010 18:38

http://tribune.com.pk/story/17078/savio ... of-horror/

Some eyewitness accounts.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 29 May 2010 18:39

abhijitm wrote:Guys did we miss this?? Unbelievable bhookto speach

Bilawal Bhutto speaks in Urdu

If you find Bilawal's urdu funny, you should hear his sisters speak.

Asifa
Bakhtawar

hulaku · Post by **hulaku** » 29 May 2010 18:43

Texas jury convicts Pakistani man of conspiring to support Taliban

(CNN) -- A Pakistani man faces a lengthy prison sentence after a federal jury in Houston, Texas, found him guilty of conspiring to provide support and funds to the Taliban.

Adnan Mirza, 33, was also found guilty Thursday night of seven firearm counts relating to what U.S. Attorney Jose Moreno said was firearms training near Houston "to prepare for jihad."

The Justice Department said Mirza and was enrolled at a community college at the time of his offenses in 2005 and 2006.

"Mirza and others engaged in weekend camping/training and practice sessions with firearms on six different occasions beginning in May 2006, at a location on the north side of Houston to prepare for jihad," Moreno said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/05/28/te ... an.guilty/

Another day, another Pakistani.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 29 May 2010 19:17

Even 1000 terrorists wont be able to gain control over Pak nukes : A Q Khan

Because there ain't any.

Carl_T · Post by **Carl_T** » 29 May 2010 19:21

abhijitm wrote:Guys did we miss this?? Unbelievable bhookto speach

Bilawal Bhutto speaks in Urdu

There is still some potential there though...

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 29 May 2010 20:14

Potential Terrorist I'm sure....

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 29 May 2010 20:17

http://www.samaa.tv/afpHeadlinedetails. ... 971e3b.111

Pakistanis create rival Muslim Facebook

Pakistanis outraged with Facebook over "blasphemous" caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed have created a spin-off networking site that they dream can connect the world's 1.6 billion Muslims.

A group of six young IT professionals from Lahore, the cultural and entertainment capital of Pakistan, launched www.millatfacebook.com on Tuesday for Muslims to interact online and protest against blasphemy.

The private venture came after a Pakistani court ordered a block on Facebook until May 31, following deep offence over an "Everyone Draw Mohammed Day" page considered "blasphemous" and "sacrilegious".

"Millatfacebook is Pakistan's very own, first social networking site. A site for Muslims by Muslims where sweet people of other religions are also welcome," the website tells people interested in signing up.

Dubbed MFB, after Facebook's moniker FB, its founder says professionals are working around the clock to offer features similar to those pioneered by the wildly popular California-based prototype.

Each member has a "wall" for friends to comment on. The site offers email, photo, video, chat and discussion board facilities.

The Urdu word "Millat" is used by Muslims to refer to their nation. The website claims to have attracted 4,300 members in the last three days -- mostly English-speaking Pakistanis in their 20s.

The number of aficionados may be growing, but the community is a drop in the ocean of the 2.5 million Facebook fans in Pakistan and there have been some scathing early reviews of the start-up.

Neither has Facebook been immediately reachable for comment.

"We want to tell Facebook people 'if they mess with us they have to face the consequences'," said Usman Zaheer, the 24-year-old chief operating officer of the software house that hosts the new site.

"If someone commits blasphemy against our Prophet Mohammed then we will become his competitor and give him immense business loss," he told AFP, dreaming of making "the largest Muslim social networking website".

Once signed up, members are a click away from debate on the bulletin board.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 29 May 2010 20:34

http://www.samaa.tv/News20535-Govt_to_p ... ilani.aspx

The stability of Pakistan and world are inter-linked, the Prime Minister said.

biswas · Post by **biswas** » 29 May 2010 20:35

Acharya wrote:http://www.samaa.tv/afpHeadlinedetails. ... 971e3b.111

Pakistanis create rival Muslim Facebook

Enjoy the lawsuit.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 29 May 2010 20:35

Dilbu wrote:
Even 1000 terrorists wont be able to gain control over Pak nukes : A Q Khan
Because there ain't any.

Could you please elaborate?
Please.

archan · Post by **archan** » 29 May 2010 21:00

Now starting their own website would have been fine, but not only they stole the name, they stole the entire design (saved the page source I guess)! pakis can't even create a website? at least put some green on it guys!
Facebook can sue for copyright if they want, but what will they get from a nation of bhikharis.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 29 May 2010 21:10

Are women allowed on this Facebook clone? Surely they should be in burqa?
Does Madam Shireen have a page for her honeypot girls?

sum · Post by **sum** » 29 May 2010 21:16

USA is weighing of unilateral strikes option on pakistan in case of succesful terror attack on usa emanating from pakistan.But i think usa is beibg too rude and pushy towards pakistan.There will always be chance that terrorists will try to attack usa in order to disturb peace and relation between the two countries.USA must not allow it to be carried away by emtions in case of terror attacks it must show restrain and keep talking to pakistan on strategic and composite dialogue.usa must understand that pakistan is a nuclear state and there can be dangers of nuclear exchange between the two if usa attacks pakistan pre-emptively.there are chance that pakistan may react with nukes and wipe out lacs of usa forces stationed in gulf and afghanistan.So being a responsible big superpower usa must be paitent enough and must restrain itself unless it can flare nuke exchange in entire middle east wiping out 1/3 rd of its forces

Good post, ajit-ji...

Hope that GoI picks this "alarming article" up and offers to mediate between two tense nuclear powers...

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 29 May 2010 21:42

Rise and fall of Maoism in Pakistan.
http://pakteahouse.wordpress.com/2010/0 ... -pakistan/

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 29 May 2010 21:52

archan wrote:Now starting their own website would have been fine, but not only they stole the name, they stole the entire design (saved the page source I guess)! pakis can't even create a website? at least put some green on it guys!
Facebook can sue for copyright if they want, but what will they get from a nation of bhikharis.

Richest beggar in Mumbai
Beware, Mumbaikar bhikari might protest against you maligning their profession by calling Pukistan "Bhikhari". This bhookkad nation of pukistan doesnt even deserve to be called "bhikhari". "Pakistani" is a bloody hell of a gaali in itself.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 29 May 2010 22:06

Gagan wrote:Could you please elaborate?
Please.

I was referring to nook nanga theory onlee.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 29 May 2010 22:20

The N^3 nooke noode theory ver 1.0?

Vivek_A · Post by **Vivek_A** » 29 May 2010 22:46

Gerard wrote:Are women allowed on this Facebook clone? Surely they should be in burqa?
Does Madam Shireen have a page for her honeypot girls?

shireen has her own website....assfacebook

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 29 May 2010 23:02

U.S. Army Developing Pakistan Attack Plan As Possible Response To Terror Attack
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/2 ... 94235.html

The U.S. military is developing plans for a unilateral attack on the Pakistani Taliban in the event of a successful terrorist strike in the United States that can be traced to them, The Washington Post reports.

Planning for a retaliatory attack was spurred by ties between alleged Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad and elements of the Pakistani Taliban, the Post said in an article posted on its website Friday night, quoting unidentified senior military officials.

The military would focus on air and missile strikes but also could use small teams of U.S. Special Operations troops currently along the border with Afghanistan, the Post said.

What do all the experts in this forum think about this? Is this just a psy-ops or just gas? Is it just Obama hoodwinking Americans because people think he is too liberal to deal with terrorists and enemies of US (Pakistan)?

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 29 May 2010 23:13

^ nobody is less serious about invading bakis than amirkhans. This is just garam hawa.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 29 May 2010 23:46

pgbhat wrote:^ nobody is less serious about invading bakis than amirkhans. This is just garam hawa.

400% correct

Virtually every Terrorist attach since 1947 has been traced back directly to GHQ/ AlQuaid E Azam /Musharaff/Zia/Pindi/ISI. This is a bigger joke than the US threatening the Chinese when asking them to float the Yuan

Pacquistan is the West's and Chinese Guinea Suar, those handling the Suar with bare hands are bound to get infected, it is in the nature of the Suar and the fate of the handler! AOA

Pacquistan Khappey! thank God that these rabid, inbreeding subhumans are not my countrymen.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 30 May 2010 00:28

vijayk wrote:
U.S. Army Developing Pakistan Attack Plan As Possible Response To Terror Attack
The U.S. military is developing plans for a unilateral attack on the Pakistani Taliban in the event of a successful terrorist strike in the United States that can be traced to them, The Washington Post reports.

Planning for a retaliatory attack was spurred by ties between alleged Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad and elements of the Pakistani Taliban, the Post said in an article posted on its website Friday night, quoting unidentified senior military officials.

The military would focus on air and missile strikes but also could use small teams of U.S. Special Operations troops currently along the border with Afghanistan, the Post said.

Very good news. This falls into the Pakis shooting their own foot category. It was bound to happen - anyone with some common sense could have predicted this.

However, just like India has been tied down (for whatever reason/s) and is unable to "attack" Pakistan every time a Jihadi plays pranks within India, the US also has some restrictions. As in if some Jihadic leaners within the PA decide to oppose the US (note that the US is dealing only with the top level people within the Army). They could make it a lot more difficult for the US to supply A'stan, etc, etc, etc (as an example).

On the flip side all Pakistan has to do is to convince the Jihadis that they should not attack the US on their land. Can Pakis do that? Do not know. Jury is still out.

Also, will the Jihadis be happy with smaller targets? When they can get to the US on US land, why would they be happy with doing small time jobs in A'stan or even India?

My feel has always been that Pakis will destruct. And, this is one of the clear first steps to that goal.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 30 May 2010 00:36

vijayk wrote:The U.S. military is developing plans for a unilateral attack on the Pakistani Taliban in the event of a successful terrorist strike in the United States that can be traced to them, The Washington Post reports.

Washington post is another "hawa hawa yeh hawa" type news paper. It is used for news plants and psyops etc. First of all it says that if a "successful attack " by TSP happens.

Suppose Faisal Shahzad's plan was a radiological bomb but not exploded and diffused then it is not a successful one so no attacks on TSP.

What is the point in these declarations?

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 30 May 2010 00:43

Successful does not mean the devices has to explode. All it means is that the a plan was implemented and it was not detected by the law enforcement efforts.

There are plenty of plans in place and never reach the stage where they are implemented.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 30 May 2010 00:45

RAW's role in mosque attacks not ruled out: Pak

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 30 May 2010 00:53

Bismilla,
This statement from massa is a plant to get the paqistani fauj to start ops in North Waziristan. See they are threatening to take matters in their own hands in the event of a successful terror strike - ie putting in place plans to do the same.

The paki army will be forced to say "Saar, pleej don't invade N Waziristan onlee. Too much H&D loss for us onlee. OK, We will do it for you.

"

And there the matter will end.

The sun will rise in the west the day massa overtly attacks and takes out Pakistan, - won't happen. Things will get managed. Pakistan and the talibs are needed for ops in Xinjiang in the future, and to needle India for the next 5 decades.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 30 May 2010 00:58

Guys, we need to be within a frame work of understanding. US plan is not to "takes out Pakistan".

On "needle India": Virtually all economists expects Indian economy to be larger than that of the US by around 2035-40. Think about that for a minute. Indians can no longer have these outdated thinking if the country has to be managed (socially, etc). That is barely 25-30 years from today!!!! (India may be providing funds to Pakistan - if it still exists - just to keep it afloat and not be a regional headache.)

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 30 May 2010 01:16

2035-40 is a very optimistic estimate.

That GDP can't be achieved without being good friends with the west and massa.

My prediction is that in two - three years, pakistan's economy will bounce back, if that country doesn't break up. I dunno just a feeling.

I don't see all doom and gloom for Paqustan. They with american help will survive this massive crisis.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 30 May 2010 01:22

Optimistic or not, the fact remains:
1) It is NOT MY estimate. It is the estimate of well known economists (all over the world)
2) It does NOT depend on massa or anyone else (being self sustaining. In fact two US economists, TODAY, are asking India to spend more (as in buy more from the US) so that the current US economy can come out of its problems)
3) Even IF Pakistan bounces back, their economy today is so small that even with similar incremental increases as India or for forget India, even China, they can never catch up with India for sure. Their economy is too small

Pakistan may survive with help from here and there. Sure. BUT they also have yahoos within the population AND armed forces to quickly get off track. And, that is their problem. Spreading Islam is their problem. And, even the US (actually out side of India) can take only so much of it - you can see the results in EU countries already.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 30 May 2010 01:35

I don't know about "most estimates" but from what I recall from reports in 2009 India will be the third largest economy in GDP terms by 2050 behind China and the US.
Yes estimates are after all estimates, they do have a margin of error and depend on assumptions and projections, what is true is that if we have a relatively peaceful time for the next 2 decades, we will be a large enough economic power with enough money to hire contractors to direct the flow of the inner Pacquistani elsewhere.

Like it or not Pacquistan and the 180 million subhumans inhabiting that land can't be wished away, it is likely though that it will become a Somalia of elephantine proportions.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 30 May 2010 02:11

Point is WRT the US. "needling". Indian Eco, being large, will compel others to take India seriuosly AND Indians should[\u] prepare themselves for this situation.

Granted these are estimates, but, prepared by very reliable sources.

Nihat · Post by **Nihat** » 30 May 2010 02:24

Pakistan may survive with help from here and there. Sure. BUT they also have yahoos within the population AND armed forces to quickly get off track. And, that is their problem. Spreading Islam is their problem. And, even the US (actually out side of India) can take only so much of it - you can see the results in EU countries already.

religious fanaticism is just one of their problems , with a booming populace and poor education system this fanaticism will only increase the levels of societiel paranoia and conspiracy theories.

Every time I look at North Korea's current situation , it gives me a pointer towards what TSP's future is going to be like. US will ditch them after they get out of Af-Pak so it'll be left with China as a shadow ally , a much more prosperous neighbourhood enemy in the form of India and a rapidly declining world opinion.

India shoul put it's head down and work harder while detailing a dedicated Pak Policy which should include engaging TSP in meaningless Chai-biskoot while changing nothing on the ground and giving the impression of a benign state with peaceful ambitions, although Military ability and economy should expand quicky to make TSP even more paranoid . It is a nation which is obsessed with India and the greater our success the greater will be their panic.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 30 May 2010 02:28

Nihatji,

And, my point is that with a more robust economy India would be in a position to just those things, which she has not been able to do so far and is just about realizing that she can do (A'stan and Sweeden).

India is JUST about learning to throw her weight around.

AND, others will have that must less say in matter they have today.

So, it is the combination of increasing Indian influence and a corresponding decline from other players.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 30 May 2010 02:32

Going seriously OT here, so I will say little after this:

It is a nation which is obsessed with India and the greater our success the greater will be their panic.

Indian eco will be integrated and thus will have serious support from other nations - other nations will rely on India. Please take such things into account too.

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 30 May 2010 02:43

How can you have a robust economy if you can't guarantee security of your own citizens and visiting foreigners against attacks by Paki non-state actors ? There can't be any economic progress if there is no security.
Strategies like "putting your head down to concentrate on economy and keeping Pakis busy with chai-biskoot" is never going to work. Pakis are too clever for this.

Vivek_A · Post by **Vivek_A** » 30 May 2010 02:53

Earth-e-shaster..admins....this is an all time classic...

http://pakobserver.net/detailnews.asp?id=33601

Who are behind Facebook conspiracy?
Sajjad Shaukat

Recently, the sacrilegious caricatures competition of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) inspired by an American cartoonist on Facebook triggered protests across the Muslim world in general and Pakistan in particular. On the orders of Lahore High Court, the Pakistan Telecommunications Authority (PTA) banned access to Facebook including YouTube and restricted access to Wikipedia in view of what it called “growing sacrilegious content”. Apparently, people from the Western and Islamic worlds take the blasphemous drawings of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) as an individual act of an American cartoonist and internet users, but in fact, it is a secret conspiracy of the Jewish lobbies to manipulate the world phenomena of terrorism against the Muslims. Indian lobbies are also working with those of the Jews in inciting the sentiments of Muslims, particularly Pakistanis. In this regard, Indian secret agency, RAW and Israeli Mossad are in collusion in this conspiracy against the Islamic world, launched through the Facebook.

In fact, plotters wanted to fulfil a number of sinister designs by using the controversial Facebook competition. Notably, any representation of the Prophet Muhammad in such a way is deemed un-Islamic and blasphemous by the Muslims. The conspirators used the Facebook because they knew that entire website would annoy the Muslim users, especially young adults—because the social networking website is so popular among them and they spend most of their time on it. They intended to discourage the internet users of the Islamic World as the Facebook is also used for communication and education purposes. In Pakistan, countrywide protests were launched against the Facebook caricatures. Pakistani protesters shouted “Death to Facebook”, “Death to America”, and burnt US flags on May 21, venting growing anger over “sacrilegious” caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) on the Internet. Protests in various cities of Pakistan continued for a number of days and the protesters branded the US the “root cause of all mischief.” This is what the conspirators wanted. As a matter of fact, by inciting the feelings of the people of the Islamic countries, they intended to create a greater resentment against the Western World in general and the United States in particular—and to create a rift between the Western and Islamic states. This was especially observed in Pakistan where leaders of the religious parties, journalists, students and other organizations delivered emotional speeches on this emotional matter.

In this connection, a leader of a journalist union said that the Americans and European powers were responsible for these blasphemous acts, and there was no need to have diplomatic relations with these countries. Most of the leaders, addressing the demonstrations demanded the rulers to sever diplomatic relations with the countries, involved in sacrilege of the Holy Prophet (PBUH). They asked the government to put pressure on Washington for taking stern action against the person who announced the profane cartoons contest otherwise; they would consider that the accused was enjoying backing of the American government. It also shows that this blasphemous act was done in order to deteriorate Pak-US ties, and Indo-Israeli lobbies were behind this conspiracy as Pakistan is the only nuclear country in the Islamic World. They are also working together in destabilizing Pakistan by supporting insurgency in the country and separatism in Balochistan.

Indian and Israeli lobbies with the help of fundamentalist Hindus and Jews were also behind the publications of similar caricatures in Danish newspapers in 2005 which sparked deadly protests in Muslim countries. Around 50 people were killed during demonstrations in the Islamic countries in 2006 over the caricatures, five of them in Pakistan. In that respect, Al Qaeda claimed responsibility for a suicide attack on Denmark’s embassy in Islamabad in 2008, killing six people, saying it was in revenge for publication of caricatures.

However, all these measures are proving fruitless due to a deliberate anti-Muslim campaign, launched by the Indo-Israeli lobbies, creating obstacles in global cultural cooperation which is essential for global peace. America and its allies continue to kill many innocent civilians in Afghanistan, Kashmir and Palestine through heavy aerial bombardment and ground shelling in the name of war on terror. US-led Indo-Israeli forces have been using every possible technique of state terrorism in these territories which have become the breeding grounds of a prolonged interaction between freedom fighters and state terrorists. The fact of the matter is that by availing the ongoing international phenomena of terrorism, Jewish-Hindu lobbies are collectively working in America and other European countries to exploit the double standards of the west in relation to terrorism and human rights vis-à-vis Pakistan and other Arab countries. Israel and India are equating the ‘war of independence’ in Kashmir and Palestine with terrorism. If India considers Pakistan as her enemy number one, Israel takes Iran in the same sense particularly due to its nuclear programme which is also negated by the US. Tel Aviv is also against Pakistan because of its nuclear weapons. However, all these similarities of interest have brought the two countries to follow a common secret diplomacy with the tactical support of Washington, targeting Pakistan, Bangladesh, Iran, Syria etc.

Another regrettable point is that irresponsible attitude of some Indian, Israeli and Western politicians has introduced dangerous socio-religious dimension in their societies by equating the “war on terror” with “war on Islam” and acts of Al Qaeda with all the Muslims. Their media have also been contributing to heighten the currents of world politics on cultural and religious lines with the negative projection of Islam. In this context, release of a Dutch film against the Holy Quran in the recent past is another instance to play with the religious sentiments of the Muslims. It also seems that the US President Obama who has repeatedly remarked that his policies are different from the ex-president Bush as he was determined to compensate the injustices done with the Islamic world—but has become helpless owing to the strong Jewish pressure groups.

Nevertheless, at this critical juncture, the sacrilegious caricatures competition of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) has provided the terrorists with new ammunition. The blasphemous drawings will result in the recruitment of more militants by the terrorist organizations. Instead of curbing terrorism, it will cause more terrorism in the concerned countries like Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen etc. So conspirators who want to continue the vicious circle of terrorism in connection with the Muslim and the Western Worlds have succeeded in their nefarious designs. We can conclude without any doubt that there are Indo-Israeli lobbies working behind all these hatred against Islam and they are continuously doing so with the aim that the Muslims get incited and take that kind of stuff like suicide bombing.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 30 May 2010 03:26

Around 50 people were killed during demonstrations in the Islamic countries in 2006 over the caricatures, five of them in Pakistan.

This is not in line with the sole nyook power status of Pacquistan, cmon only 10% of the total deaths? surely RAA and Mossad must have infiltrated Pacquistani hospitals to save Pacquis from certain death and thereby keep the figures down and show Pacquis in bad light

I call upon Pacquis to rectify this by committing Khudh Khushi in thousands

It looks as if we might have to close down Benis in the face of such competition from Bakobserver, their sheer quality cant be matched on Benis

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 30 May 2010 05:27

Farzana Shaikh: Paki Identity Crisis

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 30 May 2010 05:30

Alcohol & Paki Behavior on Int'l Flights

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 30 May 2010 05:47

Unkil's calibrated threat to take the attack into TSP is almost laughable. I mean Unkil's radar is only on TSP Taliban which TSP RAPE don't like anyway. So TSP will take this threat lying down. Unkil carefully avoided mention of any other terror scum that TSP RAPE control like LET. So what is Unkil's message to TSP: We will help you eliminate those that pose a threat to both both of us provided you show sincerity in calibrating the dual use terrorists (by dual use I mean terrorists arrayed against both US (and west) and India) like LET so they are focused only on SDREs.