Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 21, 2010

ajit_tr · Post by **ajit_tr** » 10 Jun 2010 09:33

Classified data stolen from Gilani’s office

ISLAMABAD: A substantial amount of official data of the Pakistan PM’s secretariat, including some classified documents, has been stolen by people employed on short-term contracts who accessed a secure computer system.

The kind of classified information that was stolen was not immediately clear though the Dawn newspaper quoted a source as saying that the head of a multi-million rupee project to computerize and safeguard government data had “run away with classified data”.

A complaint about the stolen data has been lodged with the executive director of the Electronic Government Directorate by the manager of the information system at the prime minister’s secretariat, the source said.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 10 Jun 2010 09:36

Suppiah wrote:http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... oups-qs-08

Posting in full as barbaric animalism and inner pakistaniyat in full display here, without any shame or attempts to cover up...

LAHORE: A gathering of the leaders of 13 religious and political parties in Lahore claimed that the attack on Ahmedis on May 28 was part of a conspiracy to repeal the laws against them, BBCUrdu reported. So they tried to kill themselves to repeal laws against themselves

The meeting was held in an office of the Majlis Ahrar Islam in Lahore's Muslim Town. The parties concluded that a conspiracy was in place to debate the laws against Ahmedis, the report said. According to Pakbarians even discussing discrimination is a conspiracy...

Maulana Zahidul Rashdi, who is a founding member of the Muttahida Tehrik-i-Khatm-i-Nabuwat and also the Secretary-General of the Pakistan Shariat Council, read the joint statement at the meeting’s conclusion: The attack on Ahmedis is being used as an excuse to generate suspicions regarding the concept of khatm-i-nabuwat.

The gathering was attended by leaders of the Jamaat-i-Islami, Jamiat-i-ulema-i-Islam Fazlur Rahman group, Jamaatud Dawa and Markazi Jamaat-i-Ahl-i-Sunnat among others.

During the meeting, Maulana Ilyas Chinioti, a member of the PML-N and the Punjab provincial assembly, condemned Nawaz Sharif's statement in which he had sympathised with the Ahmedis and called them his brothers. so they are not brothers, but enemies.....

The meeting's participants demanded that Nawaz Sharif immediately withdraw his statement. we can be sure this Pakbarian animal will do that pronto....

al-hamdulillah for paki honesty.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 10 Jun 2010 09:46

What does India want us to do on terror front, asks Qureshi

Pakistan said on Wednesday that it wanted to ask Home Minister P Chidambaram [ Images ], who visits the country later this month, as to what India [ Images ] wanted it to do on terrorism front so that relations between the two countries could normalise. Pakistan Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi said if the two countries are able to end trust deficit and improve relations, it would have a spin-off effect on a number of activities, including trade and tourism. "In my view, both countries have suffered on account of terrorism. In my view, both countries should engage to deal with this issue of terrorism. We can do it collectively in a more effective manner," he said. "I am happy to learn that the Indian home Mmnister will be visiting Pakistan on June 26 and I am sure he will discuss these issues with his counterpart (Rahman Malik)," said Qureshi, who was in Istanbul to attend the Summit of Conference on Interaction and Confidence Building in Asia. Chidambaram will be travelling to Islamabad [ Images ] for the South Asian Association for Regional Corporation interior ministers' meeting and during his stay there he is expected to have bilateral meetings with some Pakistani leaders. Qureshi said if he gets an "opportunity" of talking to Chidambaram, "I would like to understand what India would want from Pakistan and I want to explain to him what steps Pakistan has done to take on terrorists. How we have effectively carried out operations against various terrorist organisations

http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/jun/ ... ks-pak.htm

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 10 Jun 2010 09:52

I thought GOI was very clear what it expects TSP to do on the terror front. I guess he hasnt read the dossiers. He really needs to for PC is not coming for beef fat fried samosas.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 10 Jun 2010 09:55

UK: Muslim leader fakes hate crime against himself ( Paki Practicing Pakistaniant )

We have seen the faking of hate crimes in the U.S. as well: the Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) has claimed that "anti-Muslim hate crimes" have risen sharply in the U.S. since 9/11. In fact, the rate of such crimes has actually dropped. CAIR knows well that victimhood is big business: insofar as they can claim protected victim status for Muslims in the U.S., they can deflect unwanted scrutiny and any critical examination of how jihadists use Islamic texts and teachings to justify violence and supremacism. That's most likely why CAIR and others have not hesitated to stoop even to fabricating "hate crimes." They want and need hate crimes against Muslims, because they can use them for political points and as weapons to intimidate people into remaining silent about the jihad threat.And so it is with Noor Ramjanally. He had hoped to use the undeniably noxious BNP as a scapegoat to help him advance his claim to privileged victim status. No dice...this time."Essex Muslim leader in court over kidnap claim," from the BBC, June 9 (thanks to Paul):A Muslim community leader claimed he was abducted by members of the British National Party, a court has heard

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/uk-mu ... mself.html

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 10 Jun 2010 12:41

IED Mubarak outside the Pak Beheriya office in Karachi.

1 killed 3 injured so far.

Probably celebrating the launching of the Newclear aabdoze PeeNS Ghasi.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 10 Jun 2010 12:43

Pakistan ranked fifth most unstable country

Pakistan is the world’s fifth most unstable country, better only than Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan and Sudan in that order, says the US State Department.

The department’s Global Peace Index (GPI), released on Wednesday, reports that Pakistan’s overall score deteriorated steadily for the second successive year and it slid three places into the bottom five.

Pakistan’s overall rank now is 145 on a list of 149 countries.

All South Asian nations occupy the lower half of the regional table, headed by Nepal, in 82nd place. India, although better than Pakistan, is also in the red zone and is ranked 128.

ankurv · Post by **ankurv** » 10 Jun 2010 12:44

Guys,

OT but need to get clarifications:

One of my colleagues received a missed call from a number in Pakistan yesterday morning on his cellphone - with a delhi number. My colleague was in Ferozpur (punjab) on a visit home when he received the call. Am i being paranoid to think it might be something - given that ferozpur is an army cantonment?

Ankur

arun · Post by **arun** » 10 Jun 2010 14:03

Financial fundamentals followed by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan; for every dollar of debt to be repaid try and borrow two:

Wednesday, June 09, 2010

Govt to seek $19bn loans, grants in 3 yrs

By Sajid Chaudhry

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan is to negotiate loans and grants of $19 billion, comprising $14 billion loans and $5 billion grants, with multilateral and bilateral development partners during next three years 2010-13, according to the projections contained in the Medium term Budgetary Framework (MTBF) released by Ministry of Finance.

Pakistan would also service its debt amounting to $10 billion during next three years 2010-13 - with $7 billion of principle amount and $3 billion interest payments. …………………….

Daily Times

arun · Post by **arun** » 10 Jun 2010 14:03

Eric Ellis writing in Australia’s “Age” demolishes the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s honour and dignity aka H&D aka Echandee by talking about Pakistan’s state of “chronic national dysfunction” and trashing Karachi, particularly its business and investment appeal:

Karachi under siege

ERIC ELLIS
June 9, 2010

IT IS a measure of the limited appeal of Karachi, Pakistan's bumptious commercial capital, that eager taxi drivers try to lure their few tourist passengers to a laundry.

Admittedly, Karachi's ''dhobi ghats'' are perversely impressive in a modern world of Whirlpools; ………………..

But a more eloquent statement of how Pakistan struggles to appeal, and why that is a worry for us all in an age of Islamist terror and suicide bombers, is that in a city bursting with a population equal to Australia, this supposed hub of south-Asian banking and business has just two international-standard business hotels. Both are shabby embarrassments to their global brands and neither have been full for years. By contrast, even Manila - capital of south-east Asia's most infamous economic basket case - boasts the usual 30-odd Hyatts, Shangri-Las and Hiltons.

Is it any wonder? The Pakistani family that owns the Karachi Marriott has seen several of its other properties in Lahore, Rawalpindi and Peshawar devastated by suicide bombings in recent years, killing scores. ……………………

…………… Breakfast titter among the Marriott's few foreign businessmen - usually bluff resource types sussing out Pakistan's underdone energy sector - has a disquieting morbidity about it, diners speculating when, rather than if, this hotel will be bombed too.

Pakistan's sad reality is that it repels business people. ………………

The Age

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 10 Jun 2010 14:15

ankurv wrote:Guys,

OT but need to get clarifications:

One of my colleagues received a missed call from a number in Pakistan yesterday morning on his cellphone - with a delhi number. My colleague was in Ferozpur (punjab) on a visit home when he received the call. Am i being paranoid to think it might be something - given that ferozpur is an army cantonment?

Ankur

To be on the safe side it is better to inform the matter to local cops/CID/SIM,
though routine monitoring goes on for many calls originating from the land of
pure-bred pigs.

chilarai · Post by **chilarai** » 10 Jun 2010 14:51

ankurv wrote:Guys,

OT but need to get clarifications:

One of my colleagues received a missed call from a number in Pakistan yesterday morning on his cellphone - with a delhi number. My colleague was in Ferozpur (punjab) on a visit home when he received the call. Am i being paranoid to think it might be something - given that ferozpur is an army cantonment?

Ankur

its a recent phenomenon. Its a Paki version of the nigerian scams. And its always by missed calls apparently !

Vivek_A · Post by **Vivek_A** » 10 Jun 2010 15:04

ramana wrote:I think massa is making DCH confess to Indian NIA to exert more pressure on TSP. Lets see how it pans out.

Yes. Because Headley's confession is the only thing that getting in the way of India doing what it needs to do.

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 10 Jun 2010 15:04

This seems to be a recent phenomenon alright, I also received a missed call from Porkistan some months back. You should report to the police if you receive any more calls.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 10 Jun 2010 15:08

This thread moves faster than the queue of whores at tiger's bedroom, so sorry if posted already...there are some gems that need emphasis....

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... orld-ss-01

"There are American efforts to persuade us to put troops on our Western border," said Riffat Hussein, chairman of the department of defence and strategic studies at Pakistan's Quaid-e-Azam University. "But no one here is fooled by that."

Great..we need such brilliant folks in Pakistan who dont act stupid. Let them brilliantly keep all their soldiers in the indian border eating biriyani and farting...while the nation gets consumed by the very same barbaric jehadi pigs they reared themselves...

"Pakistan sees its ability to be noticed globally as related to its tensions with India

For once SV is talking sense...That is the general feature and behaviour of Taller than mountain's whores..look at north korea...the only way they hit the headlines is by being a nuisance...

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 10 Jun 2010 15:39

Chandragupta wrote:This seems to be a recent phenomenon alright, I also received a missed call from Porkistan some months back. You should report to the police if you receive any more calls.

My little theory on this phenomenon:

a) A band of giggling teenage girls in Pa'akastan are looking for some SDRE salvation, or

b) Some Pakistani terrorist outfits have conspired to overwhelm India's Intelligence Services. A sort of DoS Attack. The more leads Indian security services have to follow, the less thorough they would become, or otherwise would become suspicious of normal patriotic Indians.

Theoretically a series of missed calls to and fro between India and Pakistan can serve as a communication medium having some protocol based on what phone numbers are being used, in what sequence, and at what times. So obviously some security agency would wish to pursue such calls in order to discern some patterns.

Of course when you mix in arbitrary calls in between, too much noise gets produced, which hinders the uncovering of such communication patterns.

So such calls can serve both as a means to overwhelm our intelligence with too much information similar to a DoS attack or create so much noise and interference that genuine communications and patterns can not be ascertained similar to how a Captcha functions.

This phenomenon (if it has indeed become one) should indeed be brought to the attention of the authorities and they should develop much better heuristics to separate wheat from chaff.

I would say, that it is probably a DoS attack intended to overwhelm our services. Signalling can take place in other ways using the Internet, etc. In which case, the authorities should be aware of it, but not allow themselves to overwhelmed by it.

{going back into my yellow uboot}

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 10 Jun 2010 15:48

This is a known phishing attack in the name of Airtel Pakistan asking for details. No need to read too much into it.

A little while back Airtel had sent warning messages to all too....

archan · Post by **archan** » 10 Jun 2010 17:11

Amnesty blasts Pak's human rights situation

'ISI guided LeT at every step for 26/11'

Pakistan, our beloved neighbor who is also a victim of terrorism, needs a nuclear deal, and needs composite dialogue for peace to prevail and the "South Asian" region....

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 10 Jun 2010 17:31

Gagan wrote:Pakistan ranked fifth most unstable country

Congrats to pakis for becoming 5th most powerful islamic nation. i think they have climbed 3 steps since last year may allah bless them more so that inshallah next year they will be number 1. Kuffar India is catching up at 114

Also hindu nepalis are breating down our necks but we have pakistaniyat within us and we will triumph over the kaffirs. Our taller than mountain friend will clandestinely send us some of its innner pakistaniyat the same way as HEU & Nodong and we will repaint it with sabz halali and that will make is the most powerful islamic state and khalifa of islamic world.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 10 Jun 2010 17:34

ankurv wrote:Guys,

OT but need to get clarifications:

One of my colleagues received a missed call from a number in Pakistan yesterday morning on his cellphone - with a delhi number. My colleague was in Ferozpur (punjab) on a visit home when he received the call. Am i being paranoid to think it might be something - given that ferozpur is an army cantonment?

Ankur

Guess he should just visit the nearby police station and report the incident.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 10 Jun 2010 18:01

archan wrote:Amnesty blasts Pak's human rights situation

I thought pakis were the biggest upholders of human right. Whether it is opposing yevil israelis for poor palestinians or yevil indians for kashmir or northern alliance for talibunnies. yevil danish for the ummah etc etc how can kaffir international accuse the pious momins fighting a jihad toimplement shariah in TSP of human right violation? Can some one post the actual surah from AI we cannot trust the TOI translation of this holy book

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 10 Jun 2010 19:24

Pakistan dismisses involvement of PA officers in 26/11 as not worthy of comments

Pakistan on Thursday dismissed reports that LeT operative David Headley had linked serving Pakistani Army officers to the 2008 Mumbai attacks, saying they were based on “misguided leaks” aimed at maligning the country.

Asked about media reports that Headley had named three Pakistan Army officers who collaborated with the terrorists responsible for the attacks, Foreign Office spokesman Abdul Basit said they were based on “self-serving and misguided leaks which are meant only to malign our security agencies and Pakistan”.

“These reports are not worth our comments,” Mr. Basit told a weekly news briefing at the Foreign Office.

Mr. Basit said it was “important (and) high time” that India dispensed with its “historical bias against Pakistan so that our two countries can make a new beginning in South Asia with a view to promoting peace and prosperity in our region”.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 10 Jun 2010 19:57

Pakistan, China sign five agreements; Gilani says Chinese support source of strength

The Prime Minister said that both countries are committed to fight the three evils of terrorism, separatism and extremism and mentioned in the same context that “we unequivocally condemn ETIM and assure China of our complete cooperation in countering and defeating it”.
Appreciating the Chinese assistance/extension of credit in setting up Chashma Nuclear Power Plants, the Prime Minister said that Mega projects like Gwadar, KKH, HMC and Neelum-Jhelum Hydro-electric Plant are shining symbols of our friendship.
Prime Minister Gilani emphasized that Pakistan and China should take full advantage of the FTA and both Governments should encourage and facilitate the bilateral cooperation between their private sectors by starting projects mutually facilitated by both Governments and run by the private sectors.
“We should strive to meet the bilateral trade target of US $ 15 billion”, he maintained.
He urged the Chinese Government to encourage its private sector and arrange for a Chinese Buyers delegation’s visit to help bridge the ever widening trade gap between the two countries.
He stressed the need for Joint Economic Commission and Economic Cooperation Group to meet at an early date to review the entire range of economic cooperation.
The Prime Minister said that Karakoram Highway is the most vital trade and strategic link between Pakistan and China and its upgradation would greatly help boost economic ties.
Unfortunately, some sections of Karakoram Highway, he added, have come under deep water of Attabad lake, caused by recent landslides. Pakistan would like a Chinese technical team to evaluate the situation of Karakoram Highway, in the wake of creation of Attabad lake, with a view of its urgent restoration, he added.
He called on the Government of China to consider immediate assistance for Pakistan for construction of a bypass on KKH to re-open it for traffic and to facilitate issuance of visa permits and licenses to the personnel of the transport companies and business houses involved in arranging much needed surplus from China to the people of Hunza and other affected areas near Attabad lake.
Pakistan, he maintained, is keen to pursue rail link between Havelian and Khunjerab, which would provide a direct link between Pakistan and China. The Gwadar port, he said, will provide an optimal trade route for China, Pakistan and the Central Asian States after completion of Havelian Khunjerab rail link.

The Vice Premier noted with satisfaction that contacts at the highest level as well as people to people have gained strength over the years and resultant expanding relations had given boost to trade and economic ties and opened up new avenues of cooperation in the multifaceted ties.

He assured that China would take every possible measure to rectify the trade imbalance between the two countries.

He stated that relevant Chinese Ministries and departments will be directed to give top priority and favourable consideration to the specific projects proposed by the Prime Minister for assistance and cooperation in the fields of infrastructure connectivity, telecommunications, agriculture, energy, water conservation, and railways.

The Chinese Vice Premier greatly appreciated Pakistan’s role as a frontline state against terrorism.
In the wake of economic losses to Pakistan in fighting war against terror, he assured, China would extend unilateral concessions to Pakistan in trade and commerce.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 10 Jun 2010 20:30

ankurv wrote:Guys,

OT but need to get clarifications:

One of my colleagues received a missed call from a number in Pakistan yesterday morning on his cellphone - with a delhi number. My colleague was in Ferozpur (punjab) on a visit home when he received the call. Am i being paranoid to think it might be something - given that ferozpur is an army cantonment?

Ankur

perhaps a RAW agent trying to contact motherland!

watch Jumpin' Jack Flash

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 10 Jun 2010 20:40

Suppiah wrote:
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... orld-ss-01

TSP knows it, matter of fact it must be salivating with a sense of pride and achievement, and US knows it too, India is a caged tiger at best:

Singh, born in Pakistan before Partition in 1947, says India cannot really take its global place without peace in South Asia, with a second attack like Mumbai in 2008, which New Delhi blames on Pakistan-based militants, capable of derailing investor confidence in India's globalised economy.

"The most cost-effective thing would be to engage Pakistan to improve the atmosphere to a point where you can reduce the possibility of another Mumbai," said a senior Indian official on condition of anonymity.

So they keys to India's growth are at the GHQ in Rawilipindi. And why would they just give up those keys by mere "engagement"?

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 10 Jun 2010 20:49

its a recent phenomenon. Its a Paki version of the nigerian scams. And its always by missed calls apparently !

According to reports, many 'nigerian' scams now actually originates from Pakistan. (In a recent fraud event, which I know, when investigated, the original culprits were from Pakistan (trying to simulate Nigerian methods) and it was not an isolated case) .(.IIRC there was msnbc story where total % credit-card frauds in US originating from Pak was incredibly high )

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 10 Jun 2010 20:50

Price of Pursuing State Sponsored terrorism through Non State Actors/State Actors

Pakistan forex reserves slip below $16 bln

KARACHI: Pakistan's total liquid foreign exchange have declined below 16 billion dollars to 15.877 billion on June 4, 2010, State Bank of Pakistan said Thursday.

According to break-up, forex reserves held by SBP were 12.143 billion dollars and net foreign reserves held by banks (other than SBP) $3http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/posting.php?mode=reply&f=1&t=5539.733 billion dollars.

India Forex Reserve As on 28 May 2010 Source : RBI
(USD in Millions)
Foreign Currency Assets + ----------247,263 USD
Gold $ ------------------------------18,537 USD
SDRs @------------------------------4,861 USD
Reserve Position in the IMF**---------1,309 USD

Total Forex Reserve Position--------271,970 USD

neeraj · Post by **neeraj** » 10 Jun 2010 21:07

chaanakya wrote:Price of Pursuing State Sponsored terrorism through Non State Actors/State Actors

Pakistan forex reserves slip below $16 bln
KARACHI: Pakistan's total liquid foreign exchange have declined below 16 billion dollars to 15.877 billion on June 4, 2010, State Bank of Pakistan said Thursday.

According to break-up, forex reserves held by SBP were 12.143 billion dollars and net foreign reserves held by banks (other than SBP) $3http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/posting.php?mode=reply&f=1&t=5539.733 billion dollars.

Chaanakya Ji figures make sense $1 in paki hand is equalizes $16 in India (madrassa maths).

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 10 Jun 2010 21:21

This Thursday...
US drone strike kills three in Pakistan

MIRANSHAH, Pakistan — A US drone Thursday fired two missiles on a suspected militant compound in lawless Pakistan's {order of "lawless" and "Pakistan" corrected from original for accuracy} northwestern tribal belt, killing three people, security officials said.
The target of the attack was a house used by militants in Khaddi village, some 15 kilometres east of Miranshah, the main town in North Waziristan, officials said.
"One US drone fired two missiles on a house, three militants have been killed," a senior security official in Peshawar told AFP.
An intelligence official in Miranshah also confirmed the attack, saying that militants were using the house as a compound. {how does one use a house as a compound?}

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 10 Jun 2010 21:35

Pakis confer another Hilal-i-Pakistan award ..this time to Chinese Vice Premier

From wiki - Those who got high honors in the past include:

(Nishan-i-Pakistan ):
Eisenhower, Richard Nixon, Prince Karim Aga Khan, Morarji Desai, Nelson Mandela, Dilip Kumar, Li Peng Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani,[6 King Abdullah , Hu Jintao, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan ,Abdullah Gül
(Hilal-i-Pakistan) Has gone to John F. Kerry etc but wiki page has been deleted !
(Abdus Salam did get sitara-i-Pakistan)

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 10 Jun 2010 21:42

I got a call from Pakistan in Massa saying that the call was from Bank of America, I was randomly selected from their customers & won a prize and I need to provide them with my bank details.

FWIW - I reported the number to Bank of America fraud division.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 10 Jun 2010 23:36

Gagan wrote:IED Mubarak outside the Pak Beheriya office in Karachi.

1 killed 3 injured so far.

Soldier killed in Karachi bombing

This is the first time that a military installation has been attacked in Karachi since an attack on a senior military commander in 2004.

The blast comes a day after militants attacked a convoy carrying supplies for Nato near the capital, Islamabad.
...
"I can confirm that one Frontier Corps personnel has been killed in the attack," Zahid Shah, a senior Karachi police official, told the BBC.

He said the attack took place in the Baldia neighbourhood.

"The bomb was fixed in a bike parked outside the main gate of the compound," a security official said.

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 11 Jun 2010 00:05

Vivek_A wrote:
ramana wrote:I think massa is making DCH confess to Indian NIA to exert more pressure on TSP. Lets see how it pans out.
Yes. Because Headley's confession is the only thing that getting in the way of India doing what it needs to do.

me thinks nothing will happen from this DCH saga....Indian courts will convict few DCH's contacts in pakiland...GoI gives another dossier to pakis...Pakis say they are NSAs...we keep whining to GoP for countless days...waste of money, time and energy---result--> another Dawood-Memon type of case...

I don't even understand why NIA is after DCH.....when we know that his words are well regulated by unkil.....NIA is too intelligent to figure out this know..

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 11 Jun 2010 00:08

CRamS wrote:
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... orld-ss-01

TSP knows it, matter of fact it must be salivating with a sense of pride and achievement, and US knows it too, India is a caged tiger at best:

Actually the implication here is that TSP should know that it is has become such a basket case, time to smell the coffee.

So they keys to India's growth are at the GHQ in Rawilipindi. And why would they just give up those keys by mere "engagement"?

Only if you take the words of the writer of this article as axiomatic truth which in reality is not the case.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 11 Jun 2010 00:49

I am sorry if this is OT. But did not see any other thread where I could post it

Visa norms for some Pakistani nationals relaxed

In a move that would provide relief to many Pakistani nationals, the Home Ministry has relaxed the norms for granting extension of long-term visa (LTV) to at least four categories of such people staying in India.

Three categories look Ok to me. I am not sure I really understand the implication of 4th category.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 11 Jun 2010 01:07

So Pakis are disowning their own citizens who might be SDRE?

Abhijit · Post by **Abhijit** » 11 Jun 2010 01:19

Vivek_A wrote:
ramana wrote:I think massa is making DCH confess to Indian NIA to exert more pressure on TSP. Lets see how it pans out.
Yes. Because Headley's confession is the only thing that getting in the way of India doing what it needs to do.

I don't know whether headley's confession is the only thing that is getting in the way of what India 'needs to do' (what is it that India needs to do, by the way?), but it is certainly true that UNKIL is definitely getting in the way of what(ever) India needs to do.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 11 Jun 2010 01:35

Amber G. wrote:Pakis confer another Hilal-i-Pakistan award ..this time to Chinese Vice Premier

From wiki - Those who got high honors in the past include:

(Nishan-i-Pakistan ):
Eisenhower, Richard Nixon, Prince Karim Aga Khan, Morarji Desai, Nelson Mandela, Dilip Kumar, Li Peng Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani,[6 King Abdullah , Hu Jintao, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan ,Abdullah Gül
(Hilal-i-Pakistan) Has gone to John F. Kerry etc but wiki page has been deleted !
(Abdus Salam did get sitara-i-Pakistan)

That much good will Morarji Desai created in Paki-hearts haaa...

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 11 Jun 2010 02:52

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Prem · Post by **Prem** » 11 Jun 2010 06:10

Another BDY Paki chime in .

Resolving the water crisis
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=244335

The treaty restriction on storage also required that India not build gates for flushing silt out of its dams. This meant that any Indian dam on the Chenab and the Jhelum rapidly fills with silt. India used this feature as an argument in favour of Baghliar Dam before the Neutral Expert appointed by the World Bank. Deciding in favour of Pakistan on three issues, the Neutral Expert ruled in favour of India on the fourth: building of gates. Pakistan is thus left without a mechanism for protection against manipulation of flows by India. When India chose to fill Baghliar it did that exactly at a time when the filling caused the maximum damage to Pakistani farmers.
Baghliar is not the only dam India has built on Chenab and Jhelum. India has commissioned 11 projects on the Chenab and is considering 74 projects on the Jhelum. Another crisis in the making is the Kishanganga hydroelectric project on the Neelum River in India. The average flow of Neelum water will drop by 21 per cent in Pakistan, which will not only cause energy losses amounting to billions of rupees but also serious environmental damage. In due course, India will have the ability to damage Pakistan's resources.
Two things should be done immediately: the World Bank arbitration process should be reactivated, and the pace of work at Neelum-Jhelum should be significantly increased. India is already doing that at the Kishanganga project.Pakistan's water issues with India are about as important as the resolution of the Kashmir problem. In fact, the two are interlinked. Therefore, the resolution of the water issue should be part and parcel of any process of normalisation between India and Pakistan. Pakistan has to invest soon in new large dams. WAPDA's Vision 2025 should be pursued on a priority basis, under which four storage reservoirs, Yugo, Skardu, Basha and Kalabagh, are planned. One storage is urgently needed merely to make up for the dams' capacities lost to sedimentation.