Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 21, 2010

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 12 Jun 2010 17:00

Five more killed in Karachi target killings

If they are busy watching soccer, they are using the breaks for their usual pure tasks...Score 5 goals ...let us stop cricket for this month and switch to soccer terminology...

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 12 Jun 2010 17:04

jagga wrote:Top financial terror agent arrested

"ISI and the D-Company have planned to pump in Rs 10,000 crore in 2010, while they have been pushing Rs 100 crore into India every month over the past couple of years"
We should be doing same x10 on pakis. But, we dont have fursat from piss process.

Gurus, What could be the impact of fake currency on the inflation numbers ?

I doubt if it would have any serious impact - most transactions of any decent size are electronic these days...the only ones using cash a lot these days are real estate mafia, contractors, corrupt babus, politicians and other gangsters..I guess they know how to protect themselves, in any case we give a s..t if they suffer...

In rural areas yes, people prefer cash but they are relatively out of harm's reach..and would need vast infrastructure to spread small sums in many transactions...

ajit_tr · Post by **ajit_tr** » 12 Jun 2010 17:32

Indo-Pak press code

THE Mumbai blasts in November 2008 were bound to affect relations between India and Pakistan. But it was the media on both sides, print and electronic, which made a bad situation worse; barring, of course, some notable exceptions.

The press must not “indulge in propaganda against the other dominion, publish exaggerated versions of news of a character likely to inflame … publish material likely to be construed as advocating a declaration of war … or suggesting the inevitability of war between the two dominions. …[T]heir respective organisations handling publicity, including publicity through the radio and the film, (should) refrain from and control propaganda against the other dominion, and publication of exaggerated versions of news of a character likely to inflame, or cause fear or alarm”.

The publicity organs of both governments have been the worst offenders. The often feed and instigate the media, build up public opinion and plead inability to compromise.

This is an example worthy of emulation; not only domestically but also at the Pakistan-India level. Any prominent editor on either side can take the lead; form a small team within his country and invite leading media personalities from the other country to embark on a joint exercise.

It should begin with modest steps: review recent developments in the media; set afoot studies on a Pakistan-India press code; and set up a joint committee which would meet periodically in each other’s country to pronounce on major breaches of the code and review the state of press freedom on each side. The media will be striking a powerful blow for sanity in the relations between India and Pakistan.

jaibhim · Post by **jaibhim** » 12 Jun 2010 18:12

Noorani Saab is a good man.He has always been a consistant campaigner for probity, honesty and his commentry on the consitution and other scholarly pieces are worthy of returning over and over again. His call is like asking a crocodile to not open its mouth and even it did not to harm any living creature because that is not what public demand wants in the other end. Please see badlata pakistan in you tube to see the ammount of hate ingrained.

He has hit the nail on the head as regards to scoop first media coverage. Pity the other end prays 5 times and this side has not time to read good books such as Karl Popper or keep itself better informed. The elderly gentleman Mr.Noorani, has perhaps overlooked media "handled" by overseas patrons[the mention of whom makes it blush with coy passion] and its unflinching support to the ruling dravidian amalgam and purer than the purest oppresive caste formulations who dominate the south. The poor paper rarely sides with the other team that is in the opposite end of boat club road; most notably labour[possibly from areas where it does not go kasimedu and tiruvottoyur the home of north madras tamil, oh use of the word tamizh is the privilege of the twice born dravidian defenders of tamil, who want freedom from hindians and its wretched brown exploiters who abuse people according to arundhati in kashmir and dash a copy to the guardian or make dean write an nice snake charmer piece in the telegraph ] and its job is to keeps its eyes shut to bourgoeis labour's epic struggles against proletarian capitalists MNE and local!

It in its pages is happy to place mylapore carnatic sabhas and the america babysitting entrouge assembled in rathna cafe and shower praise of the great dravidan movement[to be read as the first born family] adjacent to each other! People like Mr.Noorani are fast dissapearing because they seem to be consistent and do not unlike Mr.Nayyar write something for an indian audience and something else for the other end! But they are better than the stop we want peace brigade as they do a candle march near india international centre and Arundhati Roy!
The exercise which the dawn resorts to placate its audience as an avowed defender of human rights is laudable indeed, such as the latest Arundhati piece.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 12 Jun 2010 20:43

Third power involved in killings of Karachi

Wonder who the first two powers are - Allah and Amrika?

If it is indeed the '3rd power' he is referring to, wonder why they should be wasting time and increasing risks scoring singles when there are so many sixers and boundaries possible with same feet on ground..

ajit_tr · Post by **ajit_tr** » 12 Jun 2010 21:04

World Bank cancels 7.5 lac dollar aid to Pakistan

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... -pak-qs-09

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 12 Jun 2010 22:07

ha ha ha....cry babies please beg better next time...

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 12 Jun 2010 22:13

Noorani is a snake.

abhik · Post by **abhik** » 12 Jun 2010 22:15

Suppiah wrote:Yes, that is why the message should go loud and clear that we are not going to allow Pakbarian animals a moment of peace or growth until they give up on Kashmir. All they can do is to kill a few innocent civilians, even in that they cannot beat the good job Indian Railway / drunk Indian truck drivers are doing...

heck they cant even beat Indra / Zeus etc. . Apparently more people die due to lightning strikes than terror related incidents(A bit incredulous though ). And the data is for the year 2008(including 26/11, J&K, NE)

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 12 Jun 2010 22:32

A_Gupta wrote:
Aditya_V wrote:Suppaih-> Ads far as TSP is concerned , causualties less than 50 are not material and should be ignored, yesterday was a peaceful day in TSP.
Probably the Taliban too watch world cup soccer.

Someone tell them Paki Sialkoti heads are the best soccerballs to play with.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 12 Jun 2010 22:39

Dawood is in Karachi, says 'daughter' in Facebook
http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/jun/ ... cebook.htm

Apparently, Dawood's daughter Mahrukh, married to Junaid Miandad, son of famous Pakistani cricketer Javed Miandad [ Images ], recently posted a status update on popular social networking website Facebook that her father is in Karachi, making waves in the web world.
Mahrukh currently stays with her husband and in-laws in Lahore .On repeated earlier occasions, when the Union home ministry handed over the list of the wanted criminals to the Pakistan govenment, they promptly issued a denial that Dawood Ibrahim lived in Pakistan. Personal details regarding the whereabouts of Ibrahim have ever since been removed.Officials of the home ministry are pleased at the developments, and they are likely to forward her personal details and apparent whereabouts of Dawood Ibrahim to the Pakistan government. In her profile, Mahrukh also talked about Kashmir .

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 12 Jun 2010 22:39

Lets see who all kills in Karachi.
1. Police
2. ISI/Pakistan army responsible for disappearences of individuals.
3. MQM
4. Taliban and other Jihadi groups
5. Shias killing the sunnis and the sunnis killing shias.
6. Random killings and robberies, D-gang related murders.

The city of Karachi is the new and upcoming battle ground for the MQM, the BLA and other Baloch groups (mostly in retaliation to the killings of its members by MQM/Taliban), and the Taliban and the Al-Qaida leadership who are hiding out there.

Note: Although pakistan's favourite killers, and involved in a zillion conspiracy theories, Blackwater / Xe are not involved in kidnappings/murder. Apparently they are providing private security to diplomats who move in and out of Pakistan.

biswas · Post by **biswas** » 12 Jun 2010 23:59

http://www.facebook.com/junaidmiandad?r ... 01&ref=sgm

Is this her?

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 13 Jun 2010 00:38

^Did you send out a "friend" request?

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 13 Jun 2010 00:52

svenkat wrote:Noorani is a snake.

A poisonous, traitor at that. In any self respecting country, this perverted Islamist dik-head would be banished from public debate, but here is this traitor putting on a diabolical spin revealing his Paki self. Pakis conduct a massacre, they know they did it, they know they are thumbing their nose at India, they know their denials and asking for proof is further rub India's nose are to further provoke and humiliate India, they know the sublime meesage they are sending it out is we kicked your ass, you can do diddly squat to us and give us Kashmir if you don't want this again; I mean the sheer scale of the evil is there for any Indian to see; and yet this madar#$%d Noorani is cautioning "both sides" on inflamming poassion. TSP speak at its vintage best.

One more in the long line of TSP perfidies asking India to share what DCH told them to supposedly uncover the "myth" of 26/11. I mean if you think about it, TSP's sense of triumph and keep 26/11 alive through such provocative statements extracting the maximum mileage is truly breathtaking.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 13 Jun 2010 01:00

biswas wrote:http://www.facebook.com/junaidmiandad?r ... 01&ref=sgm

Is this her?

http://alaiwah.files.wordpress.com/2008 ... =480&h=722

archan · Post by **archan** » 13 Jun 2010 01:24

^^ That is sooooo SDRE looking. She looks TFTA Arab-o-Greek in qitaab-e-chehra (facebook).

Vashishtha · Post by **Vashishtha** » 13 Jun 2010 01:30

qitaab-e-chehra

Thats gonna make my day!!!!

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 13 Jun 2010 02:06

archan wrote:^^ That is sooooo SDRE looking. She looks TFTA Arab-o-Greek in qitaab-e-chehra (facebook).

Was it a shotgun marriage?

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 13 Jun 2010 02:16

Care to make any sense out of this illogical demand? Are paki chaddis tied up in a knot?
Porkis Want India to Share Details of Headley probe

Pakistan wants both India and the US to share details of the interrogation of David Coleman Headley, the alleged Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) operative who is currently in America's detention, so that the 'myth' surrounding the 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks is unearthed.

"Although India and the US are not bound to share findings of investigation, however, they need to share them with Pakistan in order to unearth the myth of Mumbai attack," The Nation quoted a top Pakistani official, as saying on conditions of anonymity.

According to a statement issued by the US Justice Department, Headley and his counsel answered all queries of Indian investigators in a series of interviews starting June 3.

During his interrogation, he also confessed to his role in the Mumbai attacks in which Pakistani terrorists killed 166 people and injured over 200 others. Headley,49, told US interrogators that he had conducted a reconnaissance of the Mumbai sites before the attacks, having visited the country several times.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 13 Jun 2010 02:48

"unearth the myth of Mumbai attack" -- does he mean mystery, not myth? The Nation's Urdu-English dictionary might be quite lousy.

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And Pakistan needs to know who all Headley fingered so that it can "retire" certain assets, otherwise known as "terminate with extreme prejudice".

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 13 Jun 2010 05:34

In rare move, ISI hosts Indian attaches at its officers’ mess

Over the past year, ever since the probe into 26/11 bared the Pakistan connection to terror attacks in India, the ISI has made extra effort to get the optics right by reaching out to the Indian mission in Islamabad, the latest being a farewell lunch to the outgoing Air Force Attache at the ISI officers’ mess in the last week of May.

The ISI, which is also the interface of defence attaches posted in Islamabad, does host such farewell lunches but rarely is it held in the ISI officers’ mess. Mostly, these lunches are organised in one of the Islamabad hotels and often hosted by a senior protocol official.

This time, however, the lunch was hosted by Deputy Director General (ISI) Maj Gen Niaz Muhammad Khattak who is said to be number two in the agency’s hierarchy after Lt Gen Shuja Pasha.

It’s learnt that Khattak made a frank admission that Pakistani forces were “overstretched” because of the military campaign along their western border. He is said to have expressed the hope that the ongoing effort for bilateral re-engagement would yield positive results.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 13 Jun 2010 05:41

One Myth, Many Pakistans ---- Ali Sethi

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 13 Jun 2010 05:44

Breaking protocol, Malik reaches out to Indian officials

Known for his hawkish stance, Pakistan’s Interior Minister, Rehman Malik, seems to be sidestepping protocol in an effort to reach out to New Delhi ahead of his Indian counterpart P Chidambaram’s visit.

Malik made an unusual gesture on the sidelines of the Shanghai Cooperation Summit (SCO) when he walked up to the Indian delegation on his own as they met for a dinner for the SCO official delegates on Thursday night. Malik, it is learnt, took the initiative to come up to the Indian officials who rank lower than him in the order of protocol, and were accompanying External Affairs Minister S M Krishna. Pakistan’s Interior Minister surprised the Indian officials with the warmth he met them with. “He met us like a long-lost friend”, remarked a top official accompanying the External Affairs Minister.

WTF is going on? hain ji? both ISI and Rehman Malik, "breaking" protocol.

Joseph · Post by **Joseph** » 13 Jun 2010 06:25

anupmisra wrote:Care to make any sense out of this illogical demand? Are paki chaddis tied up in a knot?
Porkis Want India to Share Details of Headley probe

Pakistan wants both India and the US to share details of the interrogation of David Coleman Headley, the alleged Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) operative who is currently in America's detention, so that the 'myth' surrounding the 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks is unearthed.

"Although India and the US are not bound to share findings of investigation, however, they need to share them with Pakistan in order to unearth the myth of Mumbai attack," The Nation quoted a top Pakistani official, as saying on conditions of anonymity.

Pakistan won't gather and share voice samples, yet they want everybody to share with them?

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 13 Jun 2010 06:46

pgbhat wrote:[url=http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Break ... als/633104]

Reporting like these are insulting to a country of our size and power. Just because this barbaric jehadi pig goes and shakes hand our officials start dancing around as if Cindy Crawford has given them a date and proposed her place...and our third rate media makes a big song and dance out of it...If at all such crap should be published, it should be in the gossip columns...that too if it had been Russian or Chinese minister.

I think both Malik and ISI are laying the foundation for another 26/11, preparing the ground in advance...so the == R&D can get an extra sheen of polish...

Guddu · Post by **Guddu** » 13 Jun 2010 08:00

AoA
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2010_pg3_1

"The norms and rules of civil decorum in the National Assembly (NA) seem to have been compromised on Friday. Unfortunately irrationality reared its ugly head on the fourth day of the Assembly’s budget debate. Maulvi Asmatullah — recently separated from the Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (JUI) — shocked many during Assembly proceedings by loudly reciting the azaan from his desk whilst facing the chair rather than the Kaaba. Apparently, Deputy Speaker Faisal Karim Kundi, who was overseeing the proceedings, had been asking the MNAs to remain brief so they could break for Friday prayers when Asmatullah decided to take matters into his own hands. After his display of religious obligation, he proceeded to storm out of the Assembly because the call for prayer had remained unheeded by the members. "

"Odd to say the least, this episode is a reminder of the irrational mentality that has overtaken us in almost every area. It is also apparent from the lack of criticism or protest by the members of the NA that such an attitude is gaining free rein to practice religious matters outside of accepted boundaries. Although left speechless, the members ignored Asmatullah’s display. Such lack of ire at the Maulana’s disrespect for the Assembly’s proceedings and rules is even more amazing than the original act. "

"It is sad to see that now a debate has started as to whether the azaan can be recited in the house and whether one needs to face the Kaaba or not."

A Sharma · Post by **A Sharma** » 13 Jun 2010 08:05

Pakistan's ISI intelligence agency 'supports' Taliban

Pakistan puppet masters guide the Taliban killers

Guddu · Post by **Guddu** » 13 Jun 2010 08:37

Turkey to support Pakistan for UN Security Council seat

Vivek_A · Post by **Vivek_A** » 13 Jun 2010 08:46

Nutty Nation.

Bagram detainees may be used against Pakistan
By: Sikander Shaheen | Published: June 13, 2010

ISLAMABAD – Detained militants in Afghanistan’s Bagram prison would be ‘utilised’ against Pakistan in the coming days in the wake of ‘resurrection’ of ever growing Indian presence in Afghanistan.
All the pertinent developments this week in the backdrop of ‘resurrection’ of Indian camps in Afghanistan well decipher that the powerful Indian camp in Afghanistan has made all the arrangements with the patronage of US to marginalize Pakistan’s role in the country. According to details received from Afghanistan based sources, a credible Indian diplomatic delegation had held intensive meetings with NATO’s top brass earlier this week to ‘negotiate’ about the future of Bagram detainees. Three other important meetings of Indian diplomats with Nato commanders have reportedly taken place this week. As result of these ‘deliberations,’ the ‘potential’ militants detained in Bagram have been ‘selected’ to divulge all the presumably fabricated details that would certainly not bode well with Pakistan.

Rangudu · Post by **Rangudu** » 13 Jun 2010 08:48

^^ Nutty as that report may be, but this is a clear threat of possible imminent attacks. Sunday is the 13th, as well.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 13 Jun 2010 09:19

They might delay it till KKH opens up for relinking with PRC. Right now PA is overstretched and unnverved as per other report.

Sanjay M · Post by **Sanjay M** » 13 Jun 2010 10:03

Report slams Pakistan for meddling in Afghanistan

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 13 Jun 2010 10:14

The photo is misidentified. That is not chotta miandad and beginning Ibrahim. It is some unsuspecting Indian couple.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 13 Jun 2010 10:29

Suppiah wrote:[url=http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Break ... als/633104]

Reporting like these are insulting to a country of our size and power. Just because this barbaric jehadi pig goes and shakes hand our officials start dancing around as if Cindy Crawford has given them a date and proposed her place...and our third rate media makes a big song and dance out of it...If at all such crap should be published, it should be in the gossip columns...that too if it had been Russian or Chinese minister.

I think both Malik and ISI are laying the foundation for another 26/11, preparing the ground in advance...so the == R&D can get an extra sheen of polish...

I agree; this should not even be on India's radar screen. Yet another charm attempt by Porkis to tell India to f%^&ck 26/11; its over gone, you are not going to get anything fom us. Lets sit down and "talk" meaning of course find some way of handing over Kashmir. Could also be some pressure from US to one its clients, TSP, to make some gesture towards its other client, MMS, so that both can offer each other something and ride through domestic opposition. This profuse equal equal tells you how little impact a country of India's size and resourcefulness has on a 2-bit terrorist entity. Thoo.

sunnyP · Post by **sunnyP** » 13 Jun 2010 12:15

Pakistan's ISI intelligence agency 'supports' Taliban

A new report claims to provide the most concrete evidence yet of direct links between Pakistan's ISI intelligence agency and the Taliban in Afghanistan.

The report says the ISI is providing funding, training and sanctuary to the Taliban on a scale much larger than previously thought.

The document was prepared by the London School of Economics (LSE).

A spokesman for Pakistan's military rejected the claims as part of a malicious campaign against the country.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_ ... 302946.stm

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 13 Jun 2010 13:21

sunnyP wrote:Pakistan's ISI intelligence agency 'supports' Taliban

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_ ... 302946.stm

I was going to give this banal report, something we all know about, some modicum of respect, until this

They claim that by backing the insurgents Pakistan's security service is trying to undermine Indian influence in Afghanistan.

So its India again. Solution in the perverted western minds is simple. Ask India to back off. Stanley boy will read this report and say I told you so.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 13 Jun 2010 13:31

Amazing how the west has just discovered this home truth about Pak and the ISI.AS if they din't know about it all these years! Someone has doublecrossed someone,which is why the truth is now being "outed".

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 149089.ece

EXcerpts:

Pakistani support for the Taliban in Afghanistan runs far deeper than a few corrupt police officers, however. The Sunday Times can reveal that it is officially sanctioned at the highest levels of Pakistan’s government.

Pakistan’s own intelligence agency, the ISI (Inter-Services Intelligence), is said to be represented on the Taliban’s war council — the Quetta shura. Up to seven of the 15-man shura are believed to be ISI agents.

The former head of Afghanistan’s intelligence agency, Amrullah Saleh, who resigned last week, said: “The ISI is part of the landscape of destruction in this country, no doubt, so it will be a waste of time to provide evidence of ISI involvement. They are a part of it.”

Testimony by western and Afghan security officials, Taliban commanders, former Taliban ministers and a senior Taliban emissary show the extent to which the ISI manipulates the Taliban’s strategy in Afghanistan.

Pakistani support for the Taliban is prolonging a conflict that has cost the West billions of dollars and hundreds of lives. Last week 32 Nato soldiers were killed.

According to a report published today by the London School of Economics, which backs up months of research by this newspaper, “Pakistan appears to be playing a double game of astonishing magnitude” in Afghanistan.

The report’s author, Matt Waldman, a Harvard analyst, argues that previous studies significantly underestimated the influence that Pakistan’s ISI exerts over the Taliban. Far from being the work of rogue elements, interviews suggest this “support is official ISI policy”, he says.

The LSE report, based on dozens of interviews and corroborated by two senior western security officials, states: “As the provider of sanctuary and substantial financial, military and logistical support to the insurgency, the ISI appears to have strong strategic and operational influence — reinforced by coercion. There is thus a strong case that the ISI orchestrates, sustains and shapes the overall insurgent campaign.”

The report also alleges that Asif Ali Zardari, the president of Pakistan, recently met captured Taliban leaders to assure them that the Taliban had his government’s full support. This was vigorously denied by Zardari’s spokesman. Pakistani troops have launched offensives against militants in North and South Waziristan.

However, a senior Taliban source in regular contact with members of the Quetta shura told The Sunday Times that in early April, Zardari and a senior ISI official met 50 high-ranking Taliban members at a prison in Pakistan.

According to a Taliban leader in the jail at the time, five days before the meeting prison officials were told to prepare for the impending presidential call. Prison guards wearing dark glasses served the Taliban captives traditional Afghan meals three times a day.

“They wanted to make the prisoners feel like they were important and respected,” the source said.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 13 Jun 2010 14:17

Two comments

- Where were western intelligence agencies all this time. If few reporters working for an institute can find this then Obama is in big trouble. Otherwise it means CIA knew this all the time but still wanted US blood to on Afgani soil.
- If All this Talib-ISI was just to counter India............it failed miserably. India command more respect(then Bakis) in Afganistan any given day. Most of the (95%) attacks are against NATO and US troops. So Taliban are using ISI attack NATO and not India.

IMO new "Kabul gate" is in making

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 13 Jun 2010 15:04

NO,it's OK for the Taliban/ISI to attack India but taboo to attack NATO! Now NATO and the US cannot deny that the entire Paki establishment from Zardari,Gen.Kill-any and the ISI are fighting AGAINST them! The real war should start with NATO and the US attacking Pakistan and castrating Paki nuke capability.For a start they can ban all weapon sales to Pak and all aid.