The Red Menace

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 12 Jun 2010 20:16

One common feature of the mass murderer/rapist goon/eye gouger cabal as well as their yellow media puppets and their so-called 'civil society' plants is that they can attribute anything and everything without any evidence to anyone they please, but the minute anyone hits back they talk of 'criminal defamation'. Look at how easily they use legal intimidation, on top of murder and mayhem, even as they spread their cancer without let or hindrance.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 12 Jun 2010 20:40

jaibhim wrote: Hope you saw the source of the piece the dawn. Look forward to her next copy in the guardian!

And in our own rapist goon propaganda yellow daily

Also look at how she cleverly plays to gallery - Afzal is supposed to be innocent who is being hanged (if it happens before he dies of old age or overdose of biriyani) to satisfy someone, Salwa judum is guilty of rape and murders but her own leftist goons are pure as freshly driven snow...

I hope all the people involved in prosecuting Afzal sue her for defamation and for treachery....

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 12 Jun 2010 20:49

jaibhim wrote: Hope you saw the source of the piece the dawn. Look forward to her next copy in the guardian!

yeah, its not the people of India , She is speaking to.Though her sympathy , ostensibly , lies with oppressed people here whose interest maoists pretend to defend, may be side by side, with the real audience of Arndhoti

jaibhim · Post by **jaibhim** » 12 Jun 2010 21:10

Too bad people dont know the magic of biriyani in koti! Prisoners the warriors of the pure and Arundhati's children, also need some entertainment. Why not give something what their wahabi mentors tell them to expect in heavan right now? Wonder why there no mujra or pretty damsels that they can go to bed with to fullfill their wishes[ their verdict for hanging will come like the greenply ad; meanwhile they can burp and probably reach promised heavan on earth!

]? Let more slum children die, let more people fall into gutters, where is the peace activist[who will waste time, lets go to djinns and swap boyfriends; instead no trp and no connected anchors to ask the right questions]?

India is going through a dangerous phase because there is a imbecile middle non judgemental class, an exploited poor, a corrupt polity and a mercenary activist parasitical class that lives out of delhi who love to deride democracy! Moreover Indian social science is no where unlike the west where economics and sociology are the right hand of policy unlike the grandad scholars of JNU who are the herd that need to be sheperded by the stop we want peace activist civil society a term largley confined to ex fashion models, lousy poets, peace activists and other avowed conscience keepers who cannot feed 20 mouths and other india international centre zombies from delhi! There is no PR Bramhananda alive today! I had the privilege of knowing the great economist whose simplicity was known to the world!

For reasons sake it would be appropriate that someone writes to the daan to publish a counter point! It is doubtful if they will publish it. But on a serious note, the actions of people like Arundhati cast a bad name on many other campaigners who live and die like dogs in thier pursuit of justice! By the way she is a poor marxist as most copycat Indian peoples stalinists conscience keepers are who worship false gods! They also seem to have got Mao wrong and the best way to ascertain what Mao meant is to talk with chinese friends[the younger generation does not know what it was but at the phd level there will be some awareness] because very ism is rooted in a cultural context and that context needs to be understood before the ism is aped lock stock and barrel! It is an Indian tradition to worship without question and that is what they are doing.

Such people cant even speak one indian language properly but themselves belong to the landowing feudal elite! Pity the indian state, the sleeping babus of MHA do not have the spine or the intellectual competence to stand up and take people like her who spit on the poor nation that made them what they are now! They get so much pleasure out of pain!!!!!

No one will file a defamation suit, no one will take such people to court, Aaal ijjj bhelll! Get ready for the next insult!

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 13 Jun 2010 12:50

This slow poison is being given to the society since 1970s at least when Indira went to left and the universities Newspapers also followed suit. CNNIBN is one of the biggest lefty in the current gang of TV channels. Sagarika and her husbend already left the NDTV and burkha behind long back.

Nihat · Post by **Nihat** » 14 Jun 2010 15:27

Security forces gun down 10 Naxals in Jharkhand

While killing Naxal cadres won't end the problem but mounting casualties in their ranks will force them to lie down and /or agree to talks on centers terms.

Btw , barely a couple of weeks since Soren Govt. collapsed and we see action on the ground. Hardly a surprise.

Nihat · Post by **Nihat** » 14 Jun 2010 23:19

The two others who managed to escape were said to be Ashanna, a key action team leader of Central Military Commission and Kanumukkala Ramesh alias Vijay, another action team member.

Apologies Nihat, knocked of some of your post contents when quoting the relevant part. Sachin.

Samay · Post by **Samay** » 14 Jun 2010 23:40

ajit_tr wrote:Give the dog a bad name
By Arundhati Roy

these jholawalas have started jumping even more since the start of planned coin against maoists in the middle-grounds ...lots of articles of dhoti are being highlighted everyday
I think she would have smelled that anti rabies vaccination drive has started , so she fears her turn is close .

Viv S · Post by **Viv S** » 15 Jun 2010 09:24

President's Rule in Jharkhand: Bad news for Maoists

With Soren out, Naxals see red in Jharkhand

Soon after the imposition of President’s Rule in Jharkhand, the security forces have gone on a major offensive against the Naxals in the state.
In the past 12 days, the security forces, with the help of the state police, carried out raids at several Naxal hideouts, killing about a dozen Maoists and recovering over 300 kg of explosives (improvised explosive device) and weapons.

Sources said this was the first time the CRPF had been successful in such a major haul after the anti-Naxal operations started in Jharkhand.

According to CRPF figures, in June, the forces arrested seven Naxals in different parts of the state. They recovered five IEDs weighing 60-70 kg each and one IED weighing 25 kg in Serengtoli village in Ranchi district. The CRPF also seized 750 live ammunitions in Pahrapur village in Dhanbad district.

The operations got a major boost on Sunday after the forces reportedly killed 10 Naxals following an 18-hour gunbattle in Bandgaon in West Singhbhum district.

While the sources said the anti-Naxal operations in Jharkhand intensified in the past couple of weeks only after the forces got a clear mandate from the government, CRPF Special Director General Vijay Raman said the operations were going on as usual and had been planned much before the imposition of President’s Rule.

“We are here to put the Naxals in right place. In coming days, you may see many more actions,” said Raman, who is also commanding the anti-Naxal operations.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 15 Jun 2010 09:48

Nihat wrote:
The two others who managed to escape were said to be Ashanna, a key action team leader of Central Military Commission and Kanumukkala Ramesh alias Vijay, another action team member.

Most likely these two chaps would either be dancing up and down in the nearest police lockup, or would be running helter skelter with a police team closely watching their movements. When the police have identified them correctly, they may also be tracking their movements . Go Karnataka Police Go !!!

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 15 Jun 2010 13:01

but it seems the naxals had been running a camp on open ground there for a month with 100s of cadres and yet only 10 claimed kia, with no bodies to show. local reports speak of police merely driving them away into another direction instead of encircling and finishing them off. this was apparently done to avoid casualties which a fight to finish would entail. the closest range was allegedly 200m.

so most of the leaders and cadres escaped to kill more innocents. if the police/crpf felt inadequate, unofficially some RR units can have been flown in and deinducted after the fight.

Nihat · Post by **Nihat** » 15 Jun 2010 18:37

Appalling absence of leadership in war on Naxals

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 16 Jun 2010 03:04

Singha wrote:but it seems the naxals had been running a camp on open ground there for a month with 100s of cadres and yet only 10 claimed kia, with no bodies to show. local reports speak of police merely driving them away into another direction instead of encircling and finishing them off. this was apparently done to avoid casualties which a fight to finish would entail. the closest range was allegedly 200m.

so most of the leaders and cadres escaped to kill more innocents. if the police/crpf felt inadequate, unofficially some RR units can have been flown in and deinducted after the fight.

Or air attack with a helicopter gunship (since it was an open ground), with the troops laying a cordon to wipe out the escaping Maoists

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 16 Jun 2010 06:49

didnt happen. now this nest of hornets will be out for the next soft target.

we specialize in poking sticks at hornets nest without the baygon spray and fine mesh net to safely dispose off all the insects.

Nihat · Post by **Nihat** » 16 Jun 2010 13:40

It seems the forces are doing something right , 18 Naxals killed in 2 days and no force casualties. Long may it continue , Inshallah

Eight Naxals killed in an encounter; bodies recovered

Rupesh · Post by **Rupesh** » 16 Jun 2010 21:32

X-Post from Int Sec Watch

Maoist leader Kobad Ghandy gets bail in conspiracy case

KARIMNAGAR (AP): A local court on Wednesday granted bail to Maoist leader Kobad Ghandy as police failed to file a charge sheet against him even after six months of his arrest in a conspiracy case.

Karimnagar Additional Judical Magistrate P Rajendra Reddy granted bail to Ghandy on condition that he shall appear before the Karimnagar rural police once a month for a period of six-month.

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Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 16 Jun 2010 22:22

I hope and pray that only the NAXALS are amongst the dead. They have killed far too many civilians and police men. Including one in my distant family.

I want them to be liquidated without mercy.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 17 Jun 2010 05:29

Chidambaram asks Swami Agnivesh's to mediate in talks with Naxals.

Telugu news paper Andhrajyothy:

Chidambaram requested Swami Agnivesh to initiate the peace process with Naxal leaders. Congress leaders Digwijay Singh, Manisankar Ayyar, and KK (andhra KK?) are believed to be the forces behind the move.

As per the letter PC offered to stop police action within 72 hours of ceasefire from Naxal side. Apparantly Naxal leaders raised objections to few key points in the proposal and PC responded positively to have a relook at them.

PC offered to invite all the related state CMs once the basic setup is agreed upon.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 17 Jun 2010 10:03

TOI reports of the 8 killed, 3 were women. a couple of pix showed the bodies (incl a salwar clad woman) tied to poles and being carried to trucks.
they also captured alive one teenaged naxal who looked high on some drug.
warning - graphic image : http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/102137 ... 0B0D811297

policies seem to have hardened and a take no prisoners attitude due to the repeated and brutal massacres of security forces in ambushes.

by publishing such images, GOI seems to be sending a cold message to waverers to either clear out or expect a fight to death...and that no
allowances will be made for gender or age.

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 17 Jun 2010 10:16

But the forces also have to watch out (which I am sure they are) - the Maoists will try a "spectacular counter-attack" to reclaim H&D

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 17 Jun 2010 10:20

Singha wrote:TOI reports of the 8 killed, 3 were women. a couple of pix showed the bodies (incl a salwar clad woman) tied to poles and being carried to trucks.

Saw the pictures (and news) first thing in the morning. I feel the image of the women's dead body strung up on a pole would be used for negative Psy-Ops against the security forces

. "How can they treat a dead body, that too a woman's in this manner", the whines would start. A couple of years back, there a similar picture of a BDR bringing in the body of a dead BSF Jawan in this manner. It had led to a few heated debates (for treating dead bodies with respect).

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 17 Jun 2010 10:44

Sachin_. thats why the Hindu published the Womens dead Body, to be used in Maoist Proganda,

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 17 Jun 2010 14:01

TOI did that too - front page. its a fairly shocking image which I have never seen.

vivekmehta · Post by **vivekmehta** » 17 Jun 2010 16:31

Definitely some so called human right activist will love to explore this opportunity to hurt the security forces and left may also try to take some political mileage out of it . but other way around it also send a message to maoists . that this is the way you will be handled . it may be good as Psy-Ops against them

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 17 Jun 2010 16:49

vivekmehta wrote:... but other way around it also send a message to maoists . that this is the way you will be handled . it may be good as Psy-Ops against them

That was just BSF and CRPF....if Delhi cabal ropes Army in...maoists will be a gone case..

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 17 Jun 2010 16:55

Venkarl wrote:
vivekmehta wrote:... but other way around it also send a message to maoists . that this is the way you will be handled . it may be good as Psy-Ops against them
That was just BSF and CRPF....if Delhi cabal ropes Army in...maoists will be a gone case..

Look when maoists die the entire Maoists gangs get to hear about it and it puts the fear of God in them, these criminal cowards fear nothing more than action being taken against them. They don't need newspaper clippings. The americans do not put pictures of with dead Iraqis, the Pakistanis did not shoot any pictures with the Mutilated sourabh Kalia, not did the Maoists with CPRF dead bodies, because such pictures provide only sympathy to the person who has died and makes the enemy more determined.

Which makes me wonder, why we often don't seem victims/ thier familes of Maoist , terrorist violence int he media.

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 17 Jun 2010 17:16

Aditya_V wrote:
Venkarl wrote: That was just BSF and CRPF....if Delhi cabal ropes Army in...maoists will be a gone case..
Look when maoists die the entire Maoists gangs get to hear about it and it puts the fear of God in them, these criminal cowards fear nothing more than action being taken against them. They don't need newspaper clippings. The americans do not put pictures of with dead Iraqis, the Pakistanis did not shoot any pictures with the Mutilated sourabh Kalia, not did the Maoists with CPRF dead bodies, because such pictures provide only sympathy to the person who has died and makes the enemy more determined.

Which makes me wonder, why we often don't seem victims/ thier familes of Maoist , terrorist violence int he media.

I don't know why your tone was so severe..I think we are on same side...just meant that Army is more punitive and maoists won't stand them...anyways..

With cold messages like this...and HM talking to DM about INA and IAF...I think GoI's message to maoists is loud and clear.

But instead of putting this pic up..shivers could have been sent in some other way...it only gave an opportunity to Canada like countries to deny visa of serving or ex officers of Security forces on the grounds of human rights violation....

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 17 Jun 2010 18:04

Venkarl- Sorry, if my post offended you. We are on the same side, there is not point publishing pictures like this. Thats why Sometimes I dont know whose side some people are on like One Si****** V******* of the a leading national newspaper where this picture was published

Nihat · Post by **Nihat** » 17 Jun 2010 18:09

Who cares about other countries and thier opinions, I know I dont and neither should any other Indian. That Naxal cadre's corpse hanging from a stick and the picture across all leading newspapers is the single strongest message that I have seen from GoI to Naxals ever. Much more so than PM calling them the "biggest internal security threat" , infact maybe they were coming to enjoy the tag of "biggest threat" way too much and all this talk of 50,000 army troops and additional Paramilitary forces only gives out the message that Central forces can be as brutal as the Naxals if that is the way they want to play it.

News like this is needed more often. The jailing of 3 intellectuals on charges of Funding Naxals is also highly encouraging.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 17 Jun 2010 19:26

The picture flashed across media might look shocking and offending to civilised world. But security forces don't carry stretchers in the jungle. This is the normal way of transporting dead bodies/animal carcass etc in mountainous terrains. However photos need not have been published in this manner . Bodies could have been shown once properly laid out. Though the publication of photos is intended to send some messages , intended recipients are maoists, WKK types, Arndhoti types , kanadian overactive immigration idiots, and of course the general public to contain the anger after Gyaneswari accident. Another twist may be that Left Govt is showing this to Didi with message to back off, in the aftermath of election debacle. Top show that even now lefties are head honchos in WB despite election fiasco. May be CRPF so need to show that they are not crap as made out to be. May be, we know the truth after some time.

I don't think Home Ministry would do such things. This is Lefty govt in WB, most likely. Publication is in bad taste.

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 17 Jun 2010 22:12

then..red media portraying Left Govt's action as ruthless ...interesting...

Aditya_V...I am humbled.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 18 Jun 2010 00:57

http://the-diplomat.com/indian-decade/2 ... mat+RSS%29
Red India’s Last Stand

But change in Kolkata is most visible on the political front, and there’s clear evidence of the crumbling of the old order. Thirty four years of Left rule is on its way out if the new political flags and views of the people I’ve spoken with are anything to go by.My visit to Kolkata came just after the Trinamool Congress' landslide victory over the Left in the Kolkata municipal elections. The once ubiquitous red flags were barely anywhere to be seen, with green ones instead adorning the streets I saw as I travelled around the city.Even the mood of the people was different. During my earlier visit, it was difficult to talk about any party except those from the Left. This time my driver, Dipu Das, lapped up my questions about the election, saying ‘We want change now. Enough of the communist rules.’
The same feeling was echoed by my rickshaw puller. He was blunter, and questioned what the Left had done in 34 years. None of the industries that were thriving three decades ago were still doing so, he said, adding that while once people travelled to Kolkata for employment, they were now migrating to other cities in search of better prospects.My day-long trip to Kolkata was an eye opener—a new glasnost and perestroika are sweeping the last red bastion of India.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 18 Jun 2010 03:24

The Stalinist mass murderer-rapist goon yellow daily as well as other yellow puppets (as well as fake-intellectual puppets) may appear to be favoring one group or the other but their real position is that they want all shades of left to forget their differences and work together for the 'cause' (which is of course destroying India and handing over the carcass to Beijing in exchange for perpetual power)

This is proven amply by their constant focus on 'human rights' in states other than WB and focus on anti-Maoism when it comes to Bengal...and statements that appear contradictory such as calling Maoists 'brothers, our boys, comrades' at times, and at times scolding them or tapping them with feather (aka criticism)...if you read the blog of a prominent yellow journalist Marxist puppet, that should be very obvious even to a school kid..

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 18 Jun 2010 07:37

the youth caught alive yesterday turns out to be a mentally challenged mute kid who lives with parents right behind the training camp. got separated from his parents in the firing and ran to his house where police pounced on him. I expect he will be released shortly as parents have produced all medical records.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 18 Jun 2010 09:41

Prem wrote: None of the industries that were thriving three decades ago were still doing so, he said,

IMHO this is the single biggest factor that is leading to the decline of Stalinists in WB. People put up with exodus of businessmen, closure of factories, constant gheraos, bandhs and strikes and decades of anti-business rhetoric that saw Calcutta reduced from a top business city to a third rate slum that no businessman goes near, because Stalinists clamied they had a 'different model' that does not require these money-bags and capitalist satans.

Now the people are realising the same Stalinists are begging the very same industrialists, money-bags and satans to invest in WB, there is no such thing as 'different model' and that with the zeal of new-converts to capitalist ideology they are mowing down, murdering and raping anyone that dares to question them, in places like Nandigram...

So the emperor is naked and any child can see that...

Yellow puppets are trying to spin this as 'pragmatism' and 'development' but in their hearts the Stalinists know they are bottling and reselling as ganga-jal, an ideology flushed away as sewage by their Beijing masters. They are in the same position as a Coke franchise owner in India would be, if Coke Inc announces that the zing thing is just harmful sugar water, and hence all should drink nimbu-paani....

But they dare not admit it...

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 18 Jun 2010 10:29

Aditya_V wrote:Sachin_. thats why the Hindu published the Womens dead Body, to be used in Maoist Proganda,

Yep. And I recommend every one to read The Hindu's letters to the Editor column today. There are atleast 5-8 letters in which the security forces have been blamed. No letter condemning Maoist violence, or throwing any light on why so much state police machinery was required in the first place. Honestly, the PROs of the various CPOs needs to be tight lipped and extra careful when dealing with the Indian media. The CPOs should learn how to ride over the media, by only giving very basic information. Some people may be craving to get noticed, media people can offer this oppurtunity, and they can get more and more information (which they can quote or mis-quote later). I remember the K.P D.G.P explicitly reminding police officers that they should not call for press-meetings themselves and should do it through an appointed PRO (they have a Press Liaison office now, in HQ). Too many police officers liked the media coverage, and this was leading to information leaks etc.

kvraghav · Post by **kvraghav** » 18 Jun 2010 10:58

^^^
My letter did not get published.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 18 Jun 2010 20:01

Singha wrote:the youth caught alive yesterday turns out to be a mentally challenged mute kid who lives with parents right behind the training camp. got separated from his parents in the firing and ran to his house where police pounced on him. I expect he will be released shortly as parents have produced all medical records.

The mute has spoken now

He broke his silence this morning and also revealed his name — Rameswar Murmu.

The police also confirmed his age. He is 25.

The police today identified all the eight Maoists killed in yesterday’s early-morning encounter at Ranja forest, not far from rebel hotbed Lalgarh.

They have been identified as Arjun, Ram Murmu, Baichung, Laden, Ganesh, Mala, Ganga and Raagho. Rameswar, who survived a bullet that grazed his head, is Ram’s younger brother.
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“But the worst was seeing his brother die right in front of his eyes. All this had silenced him through yesterday, from his capture till the time he went to sleep around 10.30pm after medication at the Salboni block primary health centre,” the police superintendent added.
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A group of 10-12 Maoists went to Niranjan Mahato’s house last evening and called him out. They took him to the Midnapore-Lalgarh main road, about 3km from Pirakata, and shot him in the head.

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 19 Jun 2010 02:21

chaanakya wrote:
The mute has spoken now

The police today identified all the eight Maoists killed in yesterday’s early-morning encounter at Ranja forest, not far from rebel hotbed Lalgarh.

They have been identified as Arjun, Ram Murmu, Baichung, Laden, Ganesh, Mala, Ganga and Raagho. Rameswar, who survived a bullet that grazed his head, is Ram’s younger brother.

Baichung and Laden sound very much like Sikkimese names. Many of the others could be Nepali. Are there a lot of Sikkimese, Gurkhas, Lepchas etc. involved in the Maoist ranks and cadres?

More importantly, has there been a transfusion of Nepali Maoist Cadres into WB (and possibly other Indian states) to provide expertise in combat leadership, operations planning and guerrilla warfare?

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 19 Jun 2010 08:20

As predicted, the whole photograph of the Women Maoists Body was to garner support for the Naxals. We have to undewrstand that this is not just about Tribals, this is about Illegal Mining Mafia, Black money in foreign havens heklping certain Banking systems(basicially fought by certain super rich in name of Tribals), you dont guns, ammunition and quality instructors for training in Jungles with developed tactics and communication equipment, and people in poverty dont want to kill other Tribals, poor truck drivers and average policeman is also comes from the poorer strata of society in India.

Many of the maoist weapons suppliers and leaders lead happy lifes in India and abroad. The poor Tribal is just a foot soilder. We have to understand a certain section of our elite, exspecially some with dual citizenship are staunchly anti-national for personal profit.

'Not even cattle are carried on poles'

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 065891.cms