Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 21, 2010

[pgbhat]

No bilateral cricket causes on-field spats ---- The Hindu

[satyam]

^^^^

Actually that is the statement of Moin khan. I have read it on ESPNSTAR.COM too.

[CRamS]

Announcement of kirket tours could very well be one of India's "bold" approaches to piss with TSP as an impending "super power". Satyam, lets wait and watch.

[Guddu]

TFTA Pawki or Pacquis -- on a Talibanic vacation in Afghanistan are going to get a massive "tan" ---

Pakis, Pawkis, Pacquis, Poo kiss...

[asprinzl]

Doc,
It will not be possible to make neither Islam nor Islamism irrelevant in Pakistan until these same are made irrelevant in India. Until them Paquis will continue to be Paquis.
Avram

[Prem]

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2010_pg3_4
Islam, secularism and Pakistan —Shahid Ilyas
(Islam se dar kar bagho ge tho Arabi kaise bun payoge: Tum Aulad e Mo-Bin Qasim ho,Insan nahi bun paoghe)

It is not to say that Jinnah did not have economics on his mind while struggling for Pakistan. It is to say, however, that he did invoke Islam as a central element of justification in his demand for a separate homeland for the Muslims of India.Thus the context being conducive for pan-Islamists and religious bigots, it was only a foregone conclusion that they would succeed in forcing the Objectives Resolution to be passed by parliament, prefix “Islamic” to everything Pakistani, pressure successive rulers into passing retrogressive laws and, ultimately, convince the state to pursue cross-border agendas based on the ideology of Islam. No wonder then that senior retired military officers including the Taliban’s mentors General Hamid Gul and the so-called Colonel Imam loudly support al Qaeda, the Taliban and the many Islamist jaishes and lashkars without any fear of punishment from the state, which itself is controlled by their former colleagues. Had Islam not been central to the creation of Pakistan, Zaid Hamid and Hamid Gul would not have been able to invoke it for garnering support for a Muslim caliphate and they would not have been the darlings of our middle and upper class educated youth, we would not have had the Objectives Resolution as a guiding principle of our constitutions, Ziaul Haq would never have been able to pass retrogressive laws against women and minorities, our intelligence agencies and army would not have been suspected of links with the various jaishes and lashkars — not to speak of their well-documented grooming of the Taliban, our public schools would not have been a tool of retrogressive propaganda and we would not have had tens of thousands of religious seminaries, many of which produce violent jihadists.

[shiv]

Doc,
It will not be possible to make neither Islam nor Islamism irrelevant in Pakistan until these same are made irrelevant in India. Until them Paquis will continue to be Paquis.
Avram

No Avram. Pakistan must show the way. Only Pakistan can do it. Islam must go into full bloom and try to do everything that its followers set out to do. You do know that kufr is the cause of trouble. But what if trouble persists after kufr is eliminated? Pakistan has already eliminated them - and the "Paki" stage of Pakistan - the "purity" is now close. They must go full steam ahead and do what they are doing. The cycle must be completed, winter must precede spring.

The fact is it is going to be dangerous - but the Pakistan story is that nobody in the world gave a damn as long as Pakistan was dangerous to India. Pakistan's purity must endanger the whole world and show out the glory of the faithful. Only then can we have progress.

It is not up to India to do anything to dilute Pakistan's purity.

[A_Gupta]

Paracha's dud
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... s-here-060

While correctly pointing out that the game of finding science in religious books has gone on for a long time, Paracha stumbles in his equal-equal.

Very few of my wide-eyed brethren know that long before Muslims, certain Hindu and Christian theologians had already laid claim to the practice of defining their respective holy books as metaphoric prophecies of scientifically proven phenomenon. They began doing so between the 18th and 19th centuries, whereas Muslims got into the act only in the 20th century.

Johannes Heinrich’s Scientific vindication of Christianity (1887) is one example, while Mohan Roy’s Vedic Physics: Scientific Origin of Hinduism (1999) {1999 is not in the 18th or 19th century and is barely a decade ago} is a good way of observing how this thought has evolved among followers of other faiths.

[SSridhar]

No bilateral cricket causes on-field spats ---- The Hindu

So, no bilateral wars cause terrorism and ceasefire violations?

[Airavat]

Problems problems problems

This is the situation while the prices for petrol, bijli and food items are soaring and the heat wave is sweeping across the country as a reward or punishment. With water short in supply and the gap between energy supply and demand increasing by the day there is not much to look forward to in this democratic and Islamic republic of Pakistan. By this “more” we have now a new name for NWFP and subsequently turmoil in Hazara with street riots and demonstrations and killings reaching out till Karachi demanding a new province.

The Seraiki nationalists accordingly have also woken up from their slumber and demand the same. Instead of solving one problem by one stroke of the pen this parliament has managed to create three others!! This is topped only by the farce which has been created for the people of Northern Areas which also have been provided with a new name (hear, hear) but not with the demanded status of a province and who are now left in the lurch by our PM who otherwise is dishing out money left right and center but who had nothing to offer to the displaced people of Hunza. Only the uproar of the affected people and the shoe thrown at him made him quickly announce a package.

[Anujan]

Good article on pukes and sehzaad A Method in Their Madness?

Now this is the argument that will gives RAPES sleepless nights since this is like cutting off oxygen for them. So this is the chink in their armour we must be aiming at.

As pointed out by SSridhar-ji, Shiv-ji and others, the madrassas of Pakistan are not the concern. The Yahoos who get out of there, even though they are fed a diet of Anti-India, Anti-Jew and Anti-west propaganda, usually choose to expend their energy for philosophical musings like the number of stribes to be awarded if one does not have a long enough beard. Then they kill the not so pure among them. They will be surely denied visas if they manage to show up at any consulate.

The real culprits are the "normal" schools (where apparently the biology textbook extols the virtues of Jihad, and where the official objective is to make sure that the students imbibe some pakistaniyat, learn to identify their enemies -- the people on the east, west, north and the djinns from the south -- and learn the importance of Jihad). The problem with these people is that since they are not properly educated in other aspects of the holy book, they dont do philosophical musings on how shorts one's pants should be. They go to the west (because invariably, those who go to "elite" schools like the cadet school Dawood gilani & his Rana went to, are sons/daughters of politicians/businessmen/jernails), and invariably find their inner Pakistani.

This is not a new phenomenon. Most of the 9/11 hijackers were highly educated.

[abhishek_sharma]

India shifts from ‘accusatory' to ‘exploratory' mode

Siddharth Varadarajan

http://www.hindu.com/2010/06/21/stories ... 370100.htm


*sigh*

[abhishek_sharma]

Afghanistan, Pakistan begin Taliban talks

http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed ... 60719.aspx

[Dipanker]

Mayo:

Not to dwell too much on piskology, but at the end, when Bhajji looked towards Akthar and roared, you must have seen Akhtar's reaction. He showed Bhajji the middle finger and asked Bhajji to f$%^k off. This, in my opinion is the difference between TSPians and SDREs. Even in defeat, TSPians retain their natural aggressiveness.

Actually he made a V sign, did not show the middle finger as you are claiming . Beside showing middle finger in Indian subcontinent context does not mean anything. In the subcontinent you have to show the thumb!

Since Pakbarian lost the game, even Akhtar V sign was misplaced and he looked stupid doing that.
Bhajji roars were aggressive and fitting kick in da butt.

[SSridhar]

Pakistan is a class-based society - edit in DT

The PPP’s decision to remove the party’s Women’s Wing Lahore Chapter president, Sajida Mir, from office on disciplinary grounds is a glaring example of how our society is plagued by a class system. The ‘disciplinary’ grounds in this case were only used against one of the members who violated party discipline and not the other one, in this case Ms Fauzia Behram.

The two MPAs had a scuffle on the floor of the Punjab Assembly recently, which included both verbal and physical assaults. Apparently, Ms Mir made a point about polls being rigged more often in the rural areas since most of the people are under the influence of feudals there. She praised a female MPA of the PML-N hailing from Chakwal for winning her seat despite feudal influence over the area. Ms Behram, a feudal who also hails from Chakwal, took umbrage at these anti-feudal comments. A verbal brawl then followed where Ms Behram made some very derogatory comments like dismissing the contribution of ‘kammis’ (low caste) to our politics and by taking a jibe at Ms Mir’s origins, the Landa Bazaar in Lahore. Ms Behram also slapped Ms Mir and threatened her with dire consequences.

[Dilbu]

No bilateral cricket causes on-field spats ---- The Hindu

So, no bilateral wars cause terrorism and ceasefire violations?

Baah these hindootva right wingers. Always trying to come in the way of peace and progress in south asian region. Why can't you understand pakistan's concerns and treat them like a younger brother? You should listen to Sri. Manmohanji and go more than half way to meet pakistan, sit and have dialogues, open up more bilateral trade etc. Or just give up Kashmir, if you like it simple.

There is no enemity towards Indians among pakistanis. I know this because my mama's third cousin had been to pakistan for a week and he was offered haleem and halwa wherever he went. So don't tell me about all this pakistani terrorism.

[ajit_tr]

India with its human resource, landmass, growing economy, links with Israel and geographical location makes a natural choice for the US to be recruited as an ally. The ongoing US-India strategic dialogue is a manifestation of the same. One only wonders about the reliability of India as, in the long-term, its regional and global interests may not be in sync with those of the US.

As a result of the recent recession, the Americans are cash-trapped and need support. The US president has already announced the exit schedule of troops from Afghanistan. That will create a vacuum, which India would not be able to fill. It is questionable whether India will be able to protect US interests in the region at the cost of the alienation of two neighbouring superpowers, when its own clout in Afghanistan is so frail that it strongly resisted holding of a peace jirga in Kabul as it will find no role in Afghanistan if a national government is formed. The US is trying to balance its act in the region by winning over the support of Pakistan, critical for its troops’ honourable exit from Afghanistan, while building long-term relations with India. This exercise is unlikely to reap the desired results without the resolution of regional disputes.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010\06\21\story_21-6-2010_pg3_5

[shravan]

Jundullah Terrorist Group frees Ashura blast accused from court

KARACHI, Pakistan -- The four freed men were being tried, among other cases, for the suicide attack on an Ashura procession in December last year that killed more than 40 Shia mourner.

[SSridhar]

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2010_pg3_4
Islam, secularism and Pakistan —Shahid Ilyas

From the above,

Although the myth of ‘a silent majority’ of moderates in Pakistan gained currency during the period of General Musharraf, the same has existed for decades. Indeed, it was not entirely a myth until the early 1970s when Zulfikar Ali Bhutto gave in to Islamic fundamentalists’ demand for Islamisation. General Ziaul Haq’s 11-year rule completely changed the landscape of Pakistani politics and society in terms of the worldview of its population. In the 1990s, both Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif co-opted the clergy and both abstained from taking measures towards stopping the growing tide of religious fundamentalism. Thus, the assumption that there is a small minority in Pakistan that subscribes to pan-Islamist, anti-American, anti-Indian and anti-Israeli ideas of the Jamaat-e-Islami and Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (JUI) has become a myth. Now the reality is the other way around — Pakistan today has ‘a loud minority’ that publicly condemns all streams of Islamist violence and sees fighting extremism and normal relations with India and the US to be in the national interest.

The ideology of the Jamaat-e-Islami — a fiercely anti-American and pan-Islamist political party — is widely respected and held true by the middle and upper class educated youth and by mid- and top-level military officers. Indeed, it is considered to be an important component of the legendary ‘establishment’, a euphemism used for the Pakistani military.

What led to the transformation of a silent majority of moderates into a minority? To begin with, the signs can be traced back to the rhetoric of some Muslim leaders in pre-partition India. These included, among others, Sir Syed Ahmad Khan, Sir Muhammad Iqbal and Muhammad Ali Jinnah. Many of us, under the burden of ‘patriotism’ and ‘nationalism’, fiercely argue that Jinnah stood for a secular Pakistan. To justify their stand, they often cite his speech of August 11, 1947 in which he said that everybody was free to go to their respective religious places. Unfortunately — thanks to our poor education system — we conveniently ignore the dozens of occasions before and after the creation of Pakistan when Jinnah clearly stated that Islam was going to guide the policies of the new state. {I am happy to see more and more voices against Jinnah's muddled and confused thinking}

[Abhijit]

Just a quick comment on Chuckter - the V sign also indicates peace. It is a generally accepted peace sign in America. Chuckter is the lone holdout against the tableeghi onslaught in paki kirkit.

[Abhijit]

BTW, Shiv, SS and others, have we seen this before? Pakistan follows jahiliya and is full of munafiqueen. It is an old article and if it has been discussed, 5 stribes for me.

[chetak]

Actually he made a V sign, did not show the middle finger as you are claiming . Beside showing middle finger in Indian subcontinent context does not mean anything. In the subcontinent you have to show the thumb!

Since Pakbarian lost the game, even Akhtar V sign was misplaced and he looked stupid doing that.
Bhajji roars were aggressive and fitting kick in da butt.

It's quite common to use the V sign, sometimes with a upward thrusting motion to indicate exactly what the middle finger indicates.

In some weak minds it doubles the power of what a single middle finger indicates.

I cannot imagine akthar flashing a peace sign at anyone. He is a barbarian.

[amit]

I cannot imagine akthar flashing a peace sign at anyone. He is a barbarian.

Chetak,

While not disagreeing with you, I'd like to point out, as Abhijit has done a few posts above, Akthar may be a Barbarian with warts on his unmentionables but I'd prefer him any day to Tableeghi scoundrels like Inzaman.

I think we should give him is due. He's resisted the Tableeghi onslaught at times to the detriment of his career.

[bart]

Just a quick comment on Chuckter - the V sign also indicates peace. It is a generally accepted peace sign in America. Chuckter is the lone holdout against the tableeghi onslaught in paki kirkit.

To be fair, he also was one of the first to shake hands with the Indian players including Harbhajan after the contest. I don't think it was much different from the usual on-field scraps with Aus/England, so as you said no need to blow it out of proportion and target Chuckthar mia.

[arun]

X Posted. Excerpt from a Q&A by Mark Hibbs dealing with PR China’s threatened supply of the CHASHMA 3 & 4 nuclear reactors to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

China, Pakistan, and the Nuclear Suppliers Group

Mark Hibbs
Q&A, JUNE 17, 2010

The possibility that China will export two nuclear power reactors to Pakistan looms over the annual meeting of the Nuclear Suppliers Group—a 46-nation body that sets global rules for nuclear trade—scheduled to begin next week in New Zealand.

In a Q&A, Mark Hibbs analyzes the importance of the meeting and significance of the China–Pakistan deal. Hibbs says that “in the aftermath of the 2008 U.S.–India deal and the NSG’s decision to allow it, the NSG will have to perform a delicate balancing act to find the least unsatisfactory solution to meet China’s challenge.” ………………….

China wants to export reactors to Pakistan. Is this a violation of NSG guidelines? Will this issue be on the agenda for the NSG meeting?

This is not on the agenda. But China, which joined the NSG in 2004, is now expected to make a statement about the matter in New Zealand. China might disclose its intentions during the plenary meeting on the last two days, when NSG members plan to discuss their activities with non-NPT countries.

If China aims to export the reactors, Beijing has three options: to follow the example of the U.S.–India deal and formally request an exemption from the NSG guidelines for its trade with Pakistan; to claim that the export of the reactors is “grandfathered” by a pre-2004 Sino-Pakistan nuclear cooperation agreement; or to exercise its sovereign right and ignore the guidelines, which are voluntary and non-binding. According to diplomats, as of mid-June, Beijing had not yet decided which of the three options it would choose.

China might argue that the exports could be justified by the need for regional balance in South Asia in the aftermath of the NSG’s lifting of sanctions against India. But some in Beijing may instead assert that the commerce was grandfathered by the bilateral pact with Pakistan, thereby obviating any political justification by China for making an exception to the NSG rules.

However, when China joined the NSG it told the group that the Sino-Pakistan nuclear cooperation agreement permitted China to export the Chashma-2 reactor to Pakistan, small research reactors, and the fuel for these units. On the basis of previous Chinese statements, the United States will come to the meeting in New Zealand understanding that the supply of additional power reactors would not be grandfathered.

The United States is not in favor of such a deal, but because Washington pressed the NSG—and China—to exempt India from NSG trade sanctions in 2008, it is now more difficult to complain about China’s desire to export reactors to Pakistan.

Will we see resolution on the China-Pakistan deal in New Zealand?

If China spells out that it intends to export the reactors, it will then be up to the NSG’s members to decide whether they will accept this, and if so, on what terms. A quick decision appears unlikely as NSG members on the eve of the meeting did not agree on how the body should respond.

This week, a spokesman for the U.S. State Department told reporters that China should request a formal exemption from the guidelines to export the reactors. Some other NSG states, however, disagree and fear that this route could lead to a protracted debate over whether the NSG should dilute the guidelines to accommodate China. A request for an exemption by China could also expose individual NSG states to pressure from China to get the exemption and if China failed, it could threaten to leave the NSG.

In the aftermath of the U.S.–India deal and the group’s decision to accommodate it, the NSG will have to perform a delicate balancing act to find the least unsatisfactory solution to China’s challenge. In the view of some NSG states, an agreement permitting China to grandfather the exports under the 2004 nuclear cooperation agreement with Pakistan would be the least damaging outcome, but it may not be credible. If China seeks an exemption, NSG countries could urge Beijing to provide nuclear security and non-proliferation benefits in exchange for limited commerce with Pakistan.

But NSG members must weigh the risks carefully. Pushing Beijing out of the NSG would be dangerous given China’s fast-growing share of global nuclear trade. Beijing may ignore objections of other NSG states and it might even react to a rebuke by threatening to leave the NSG. NSG states, however, have leverage over China in nuclear matters as Beijing knows that it needs to import uranium from Australia, Canada, and Kazakhstan to keep expanding its nuclear power program. It also needs support from vendors in France, Japan, Russia, South Korea, and the United States to keep building and exporting reactors.

Clicky

[arun]

At least some in the media of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan are downright unhappy with the reports that the US is questioning the permissibility of the supply of nuclear reactors under current NSG rules.

One such is this article titled “ Chinese reactors: NSG and US duplicity ” from the News :

Clicky

[arun]

X Posted. Seth Jones and C. Christine Fair of the US think-tank Rand on the Islamic Terrorist supporting ways of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

Scholars say Pakistan hasn't quit insurgent habit

By ANNE GEARAN (AP) – 2 hours ago

WASHINGTON — Pakistan hasn't quit its habit of courting insurgents, and extremist networks with current or former ties to the government pose a significant risk to the United States and Pakistan's elected government itself, a new study concludes.

A rising number of terrorist plots in the United States with roots in Pakistan stems in part from an unsuccessful strategy by the U.S.-backed government in Pakistan to blunt the influence of militant groups in the country, the report by the RAND Corp. said.

The report to be issued Monday says the May 1 failed car bombing in New York's Times Square is an example of how militant groups, some with shadowy government backing, can increasingly export terrorism far beyond the country's borders.

The United States isn't getting its money's worth for all the billions in aid pledged to the strategically located, nuclear-armed nation, the report concludes. The U.S. should withhold some aid until Pakistan makes "discernible progress," authors Seth Jones of RAND and C. Christine Fair of Georgetown University wrote. …………………

AP via Google

The complete Rand report (2.9 MB) titled “Counter Insurgency in Pakistan” is available here:

Rand

[NikhilB]

Regarding the discussion above that pakis becoming more and more pious, more islamic and more threating to world than just India -

Indeed it will not be Saudi, Persians rather pakis that will hold the islamic torch for coming generations, and of course it is Islamic Jeehadi Torch. We see this already happening.
- Facebook ban in pakiland when all other islamic nations were very quite and calm
- Support to palestine even though nobody gives them a damn sh!t attention on the issue - only involved parties are regional parties and supercop US.
- pakis beleive that they are not part of Indian subcontitent rather they belive are part of Central Asia / Middle East. Height of stupidness, but who cares about geography.
- and thousands of more.

The recent discussion on paki dd..dumb forum shows that pakis are now angry at Saudis because of reconstruction at holy places - and really angry. See...no other muslim country gives a damn sh!t about issues in other country, but as pakis are bestowed by supreme power, they see the cause for islamic fight everywhere, even in Saudi Land...

I remememer the discussion on this thread sometime back that pakis will even not hesitate to attack saudi to protect their version of islam. We should expolit this paki piouness - that paki islam is threat to entire world including other islam !!

[Pranav]

One should not think of Paks as being monolithic. There is a small but significant number that are defectors from Pakistaniyat, especially from minority ethnicities. Such folks should be taken care of (subject to due safeguards).

[chetak]

I cannot imagine akthar flashing a peace sign at anyone. He is a barbarian.

Chetak,

While not disagreeing with you, I'd like to point out, as Abhijit has done a few posts above, Akthar may be a Barbarian with warts on his unmentionables but I'd prefer him any day to Tableeghi scoundrels like Inzaman.

I think we should give him is due. He's resisted the Tableeghi onslaught at times to the detriment of his career.

I see your point saar. Well taken.

[A_Gupta]

"Had the claim to being Indian and Muslim been acknowledged, there would have been no issues."

This is a response to Shiv on pakteahouse where the "liberal Pakistani secular" narrative is that Jinnah was forced into Partition, because the Congress (and Hindus in general) did not acknowledge Jinnah's claim of being both Indian and Muslim. Jinnah's - Hindus and Muslims are two different nations - was a negotiating position onlee.

I think one cannot be a Pakistani without carrying a grievance.

[archan]

I think one cannot be a Pakistani without carrying a grievance.

AoA. Right on the dot there.

[RajeshA]

Why Pakistan is not a nation by Pervez Hoodbuoy

Of course, stable nationhood is still not guaranteed. Both the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia broke apart after seven decades.

Yugoslavia: December 1, 1918 - June 25, 1991 (~ 72 and half years)
Soviet Union: December 30, 1922 - December 26, 1991 (~ 69 years)
Pakistan: August 14, 1947 - ???

So according to such a measure, Pakistan still has time till 2020.

So my dear Pakistani step-brothers and step-sisters,

in 2020 you will all be free,
either free from your lives, or free from impure Islam, or free from Pakistan. Freedom is nigh, and you will all have your tryst with destiny.

[James B]

Yugoslavia: December 1, 1918 - June 25, 1991 (~ 72 and half years)
Soviet Union: December 30, 1922 - December 26, 1991 (~ 69 years)
Pakistan: August 14, 1947 - ???

So according to such a measure, Pakistan still has time till 2020.

By 2020, they will reach their ~72 - will be poetic justice onlee, if it happens.

[A_Gupta]

Pakistan already is R.I.P: August 14, 1947 - December 16, 1971.

That gives it a fresh lease of life, for the 72 of the current Pakistan will be
December 17, 1971 - December 17, 2043.

[vijayk]

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 075571.cms

Pakistan 10th most failed state of the world: Foreign Policy magazine

Just three places below Afghanistan, Pakistan has been ranked the 10th most failed state in the 2010 Failed State Index released by the prestigious Foreign Policy magazine on Monday.

The list is topped by Somalia, followed by Zimbabwe, Sudan, and Chad.

India is ranked 87 in a list of 177 countries. In India's immediate neighbourhood, Burma has been placed at 13, Sri Lanka (22) and Nepal 25. China is ranked at 57th place. Norway is ranked at the bottom of the list.

[Anindya]

http://www.ndtv.com/news/india/firing-a ... php?u=1747

Ahead of Home Minister P Chidambarm's visit to Pakistan another ceasefire violation. This time on the International Border in the R S Pura sector. This is a very vulnerable position. There are Pakistani bunkers on three sides of Border Security Force (BSF) post, which came under firing from Pakistan today.

For more than 12 hours, 30 men of a BSF ambush party were pinned down by firing from Pakistani Rangers in Jammu's R S Pura sector. The firing, targeted at the realigned border fence, started at 4 in the morning and went on intermittently for more than eight hours. The Pakistanis were at an advantageous position with bunkers overlooking Indian posts from three sides.
......

[Prem]

"RajeshASo according to such a measure, Pakistan still has time till 2020.
So my dear Pakistani step-brothers and step-sisters,
in 2020 you will all be free,
either free from your lives, or free from impure Islam, or free from Pakistan. Freedom is nigh, and you will all have your tryst with destiny

A minor nitpick,
Paki step sisters and brothers normally end up as Beerather and Bride . Yesterdays Sister become Today's Begum. On way to escape the verdict of history for them is to vigorously follow the cleaning process and remove all impure ingredients from Pawkistani Islam. Let the world wonder at 6th century flourish in curent era.

[Rahul Shukla]

Pakistan's Medieval Constitution - Mira Sethi (Wall Street Journal)

Every Pakistani Muslim applying for a passport must sign a statement deriding Ahmad, but I had forgotten about the procedure. I asked the officer what would happen if I didn't sign above the line. He looked at me blankly: "You don't want passport?"

That the Ahmadi movement agrees with every tenet of Islam, save the additional belief that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad came to the Muslim community as a promised messiah, is irrelevant. The legal system has left minorities such as Christians and Hindus, and within Islam, Ahmadis and Shiites, socially and politically isolated.

Pakistan is the only Muslim nation to explicitly define who is or is not a "Muslim" under its constitution. This serves only one purpose: to embolden groups like the Pakistani Taliban who use the laws as justification to declare Ahmadis as "wajib ul qatl" or "worthy of death." As long as the state continues to decide who is and is not a Muslim—a personal, private question—we will continue to see attacks on minorities and medieval banners in the public square.

[Prem]

A new Pawki Sch"m"itt, i Luv Burka

Police: German Detained in NW Pakistan
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
DERA ISMAIL KHAN, Pakistan (AP) -- A German man wearing a burqa was detained Monday after leaving Pakistan's militant heartland close to the Afghan border, security officials said.

http://www.nytimes.com/glogin?URI=http: ... DQ5CQ51Q7B(OQ7BQ2BQ2F@Q3FQ24Q3FQ2FQ3FgQ2F@Q24Q2FQ5DQ51.(XQ2FpTQ23pQ60Q23TDqOyQ25DQ7B6FQ25s(