Pakistan’s Indus Water Commissioner Syed Jamaat Ali Shah has said that we have not accused India of stealing water and the present low inflow in the rivers is due to climate change.
Shah said Pakistan had not lost the case of the Baglihar Dam, “instead our reservations had been accepted”.
Huh?Pakistan reserved the right to go for arbitration against the Indian violations, he maintained.
All this is fine, but the Pious and Pure should concentrate on the Munafiqs amongst their own elites. Aren't most of the big landlords Munafiqs? Should not their lands be distributed to the Pious?Smokers’ Corner: The punishing verdict
By Nadeem F. Paracha
Good news: Only 10 per cent Pakistanis recently surveyed by a leading US research group have any liking for the Taliban. What’s more, a mere nine per cent exhibited sympathy for Al-Qaeda. So, does this mean that we are finally moving towards being a more rational, humanist, tolerant and moderate society?
Hold your horses. Or shall I say camels. Because the same survey finds broad support for harsh punishments: 78 per cent favour death for those who leave Islam; 80 per cent favour whippings and cutting off hands for crimes like theft and robbery; and 83 per cent favour stoning adulterers to death.
Now, if such overwhelming numbers of Pakistanis have such brutal ideas about crime and punishment, one wonders exactly what is it about beasts like the Taliban and Al-Qaeda that Pakistanis don’t like. Why would a Pakistani support death (by stoning) of an adulterer and similar punishment for apostates, but dislike the Taliban?
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In the final count they are human beings.shiv wrote:I don't like termites. I don't like cockroaches. I would hate having to fight them in a mass invasion, although I would have no choice. I would rather think about what I can start doing today to stop or reduce that invasion.
Gagan-jiGagan wrote:All this talk of 30 million turning up on the Indian border for food is unduly dramatic. I don't think it will quite happen this way. Pakistan is straining to remain a single unit. The strings that bind them together are weaker by the day, as the economic situation gets more desperate. Happily, their desperation to maintain their hollow H&D will prove to be their undoing.
While the US has at least proclaimed its intent to consider India on its own terms and not as a part of the Kashmir dispute with Pakistan, not so China, which has responded to the US nuclear deal with India by announcing its intention to supply two power reactors to Pakistan. And, as always, India has been left fumbling around in response.
The Chinese and Pakistanis were livid over the Indo-US nuclear deal, which they fear gives India access to more domestic uranium for making bombs. The US refused a similar deal for Pakistan citing its notorious proliferation history, especially AQ Khan’s ‘nuclear Wal-Mart’. Pakistan looked for help from China, its all-weather ally, and after some dithering China is apparently ready to risk facing US and world opprobrium by exporting the two reactors.
At the Nuclear Suppliers’ Group meeting in New Zealand, China argued that the reactor sales are grandfathered from its previous atomic deal with Pakistan that came before it joined the NSG, so it doesn't need permission for the new deal.
India hasn't for its part initiated a vigorous diplomatic response toward China, but instead brought up its reservations during the recent visit of President Pratibha Patil to Beijing. China responded unconvincingly that the deal met both China and Pakistan’s international non-proliferation obligations. Since India’s official reservations were leaked to the press, however, public opinion has once again turned against China, frustrations that the Manmohan Singh government doesn’t wish to fan. But there’s no let up in China’s strategic assistance to Pakistan against India, and in China’s reckoning, the India-Pak ‘hyphen’ is alive and beneficial.
Blasphemy!!! A_Gupta is comparing Muslims with non-believers.A_Gupta wrote: In the final count they are human beings.
few things that come to my mind areshiv wrote:I don't like termites. I don't like cockroaches. I would hate having to fight them in a mass invasion, although I would have no choice. I would rather think about what I can start doing today to stop or reduce that invasion.Prem wrote: Sir jee, Do u mean 47 again then so be it but not sure about Rajashan border, who is gonna man the post.
RamaY wrote:Blasphemy!!! A_Gupta is comparing Muslims with non-believers.A_Gupta wrote: In the final count they are human beings.
The requirements for safeguards are imposed by the NPT and enforced by the IAEA and the UNSC. The NSG is actually irrelevant as far as the treaty goes.Sanjay M wrote:abhishek_sharma wrote:NSG meet steers clear of China-Pakistan nuke deal
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Then India shouldn't go ahead with the nuclear liability cap unless the US is willing to insist on safeguards as part of the China-Pak deal.
ISLAMABAD:Pakistan's interior minister Rehman Malik has said that had the Taliban militants overrun his country, their next targets would have been India and Bangladesh.
"India and Bangladesh would have been next if the Taliban had taken over Pakistan," Malik told reporters while briefing them on the outcome of the meeting of SAARC Interior Ministers here on Saturday.
Pakistani Taliban last year warned that it would dispatch terrorists to fight India, once an Islamic state had been created in Pakistan.
"We want an Islamic state (in Pakistan). If we get that, then we will go to the borders and help fight the Indians," Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan's slain chief Hakimullah Mehsud had warned in footage aired by Britain's Sky News channel in October last year.
Its equal equalitis up the ladder of escalation. First it was both India & TSP are victims onlee and both should jointly fight "extremists on both sides". Now it seems: a) TSP is protecting both India & itself from the Taliban, and b) LET/ISI are a threat to both India & TSP. (yesterday's TOIlet).Lalmohan wrote:^^^ scare mongering for the heck of it, lapped up by the DDM no doubt
But this time India is prepared. Even the Taliban invasion of 1947 Kashmir was halted and eventually beaten back.chaanakya wrote:Taliban wanted to enter India after overrunning Pak: Malik
If you are referring to what vera_k refers to as the 'Taliban invasion of 1947', then it is incorrect. Mountbatten or his British Army Chief of the Pakistani Army did nothing to stop the tribal invasion. It became a self-limiting invasion after the temptations of 'maal-e-ghanimat' (War Booty) stopped the tribals at Baramulla.Sanjay M wrote:It was halted by Mountbatten, who didn't want Brits on the Indian side fighting Brits on the Pak side.
It is always forgotten that in 1947 the whole J&K state was invaded by the Pakistanis, and battles were already being fought in Jammu province long before the tribal raid into Kashmir. Credit for halting the invaders goes first to the J&K army, the modern day JAK RIF regiment.Sanjay M wrote:It was halted by Mountbatten, who didn't want Brits on the Indian side fighting Brits on the Pak side. We, of course, prefer a more face-saving version of events.
As with all things Pakistan there is always a degree of "iffinesss" and likely bluff in all Paki news.A_Gupta wrote:1 millon motorcycles manufactured and sold in Pakistan in 11 months - so things are not as bad there yet as suggested by some. Maybe it will be motorcycle gangs invading India?
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There can be no right to worship “freely”, if a community is made to carry its denomination on its sleeve, like a star of David in Nazi Germany. To qualify for a Pakistani passport, that ultimate marker of citizenship, all Pakistanis have to sign a disclaimer confirming each person’s commitment to condemn the Ahmadis, and this continues even today. Other than the anti-Ahmadiya Ordinance passed in 1984, which has not been allowed to lapse, the Zia government took several steps to marginalize and persecute this largely educated community. In order to forswear their citizenship, Pakistan has forgone its only Nobel prize-winning laureate, Professor Abdus Salaam, who accepted his physics prize in national dress. Vicious anti-Ahmadiya propaganda was inculcated in classrooms, and there have been many episodes since then, when Ahmadi students were beaten, tortured and hounded on false charges of blasphemy under the black laws introduced in 1986. The list is long an
SHAHBAZ AIR BASE (APP) – With the induction of latest version of F-16 aircraft, Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has achieved the capability to carry out all-weather night-time operations, said Chief of Air Staff Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman here on Sunday.
Addressing the formal handing over ceremony of three Block 52 C/D version of F-16 aircraft by the US at the newly developed base near Jacobabad, Chief of Air Staff said this technology will not only eliminate our existing limitations of precision night operations but also enable the PAF to meet its mission more effectively.
“The mission of the PAF is to maintain peace with honour in the region: should this primary effort of maintaining peace fail, we will use our resources including these aircraft to defend our country against any internal or external threats.”
General Norton A Schwartz, Chief of Staff, United States Air Force (USAF), especially visited Pakistan to attend the handing over ceremony.
Jinnah was, and remained so, till the end of his life a classical liberal schooled in the Victorian era. His economics and politics was based on liberal and limited government protecting and forwarding the cause of freedom of speech, religion, press and also markets
When asked about Pakistan ka matlab kiya, La Ilaha illallah, J-man responded that he had never allowed such a resolution to be passed in the Muslim League and that the person in question might have done so to “catch a few votes”. Was this lawyerly talk or naivety of British India’s most eminent brown sahib? Either way, the founder of this state of ours never envisaged Pakistan to be a theocracy to be run by priests with a divine mission. He had always had a visceral dislike for the clergy.
The reason why Pakistan could not be an ‘Islamic state’ or harbour any fantasies about role of religion in state was perhaps best explained by Jinnah himself when he told Raja of Mahmudabad to distance himself from the League. He asked the impetuous Raja to tell him whose shariah would Pakistan follow? Even more forthright is the version transmitted to us by Iskandar Mirza who quoted Jinnah as saying, “Shariah? Whose shariah? No. I shall have a modern state.”
If the Pakistani state cannot reinvent itself along the lines given by Jinnah, perhaps the state should think about distancing itself from Jinnah and letting him rest in peace.
Pakistan Receives F-16s That May Give `Unprecedented' Boost Over Taliban
By Tony Capaccio - Jun 27, 2010
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The Pakistan Air Force today received its first three of 18 Lockheed Martin Corp. F-16s that the U.S. hopes will give the Afghan neighbor nation a crucial edge against Taliban and al-Qaeda fighters in its northwest.
The aircraft give the Pakistan Air Force a night-attack capability and all-weather precision targeting, “an unprecedented advantage they have not had,” said Vice Admiral Michael Lefever, head of the U.S. military mission in Islamabad.
He predicted that the most up-to-date version of the fighter aircraft could be pressed “fairly quickly” into air operations against the Taliban, al-Qaeda and other insurgents in the ungoverned northwest provinces.
The Obama administration is seeking to solidify relations with Pakistan, as its strategy for stabilizing neighboring Afghanistan depends on weakening the fighters who have found havens in Pakistan’s ungoverned tribal areas and threaten regional stability.
“Terrorists can operate at night with impunity but we have had virtually no air cover at night,” Husain Haqqani, Pakistan’s ambassador in Washington, said in an interview.
Indian interests in their dialogue with Pakistan are wider. These are essentially three: terrorism as an opening gambit and something to keep Pakistan under pressure with, Afghanistan and India’s desperation to get a foot in on a more than likely closed door and a possibility to seek an expanded trading area covering the region and extending up to Central Asia.
With a more amenable Pakistan willing to let the Indian foot in, in turn for a promising bilateral engagement that will deliver peace in the wake of, perhaps, the most challenging time since the break-up of the country in 1971, the chances for India in Afghanistan look better. This is where Pakistan has leverage — with India’s desperation and its real interest to keep a toehold in Afghanistan. Without Pakistan enabling transit trade through its territories from India to Afghanistan, the return remains minimal even if India can curry favour separately with Karzai. India’s Dilaram-Chabahar road option remains suspect and extremely cumbersome, exponentially increasing the cost of business. With a less than helpful Afghan government in place after US withdrawal, India’s hopes for a reasonable return may remain entirely stalled. Enter the need to break the logjam with Pakistan.
India’s second interest in the Pakistani dialogue is in its overstated but opportune concern for terrorism. India has found a handy cause to flog Pakistan with. Even if Hafiz Saeed and all those under trial for their alleged role in the Mumbai incident were to be incarcerated and punished, it may only serve to satisfy India’s bloated sense of self-importance, seeking manifest redemption of its wounded pride but in no way can it provide the assurance of immunity from further terrorist activities within India, whether home-grown or arising out of Pakistan. India’s refrain on terrorism is thus weak and reeks of a self-serving insidious agenda of Pakistan-bashing than a real concern to seek cooperative ways to recover from the malice that this menace has unleashed. India’s growing Naxal insurgency itself is a plate-full and may, at some time, need wider cooperation. Terrorism will continue to serve India’s cause till it gets nastier and needs a more serious Indian approach. Till then Pakistan will just need to find a way around Indian barbs. In the meanwhile, Pakistan must stay the course against terrorism and its deadly manifestations along its own timeline as per the dictates of its own priority list.
When the followers of Islam take religion so seriously that ethnic cleansing becomes a be all and end all, how can our courts and our laws allow parents to ‘disown’ their children in black and white?
My mind is in disarray and my womb is in question. Welcome to the ravages of a particularly foul morning. I am a mother and as such the last few days have watched me suffer a mental mastectomy where the laws of the Almighty have become only a perception in the face of a reality too miserable to labour. A few days ago a woman — a wife, a daughter, a mother — murdered her four children and herself in a scurry of poisonous proliferation. Aged from three to nine, more innocence was bloodied in our land of the dogmatic and destitute. Cut to Sunday and another woman has emerged as the victor in this waltz of the wasted. In Rahimyar Khan a woman threw herself and her minor children onto the railway tracks in utter vulnerability to the approaches of a contestable society. Before ejecting a child from my own biological fray, such snippets would have enlisted a slight pause for presumption but now rapid disgust calls for a deeper deliberation into what it means to be a parent in a society ruled by the ethos of hypocrisy.
TSP brass has thought of this and therefore there are some new border posts in TSP that are facing West and not East on Indian border. Any attempt to go to India will be thought of as traitors and shot at by TSP border corps.Prem wrote:If Poakis keep poking indian eyes then we have no chice but to kill all those who try to cross Wagha with the germs of Pakistaniat in their bloodstream . It might sound cruel but how do u take care of contageous disease Doc? Guess ,we let in Women and female children and keep the rest of Abdfools at bay to be fed upon by Talibans. Aint we looking at 400 Millions Poakies by 2040 with no water, food , education and abandoned by the 3.5 " Poikevins" of Poakees who has fathered them .
Interesting that he classifies those who find fault with Jinnah as either Islamists or pseudo-Leftists, or ethno-nationalists or rabid jingo Indians. I don't know where he places Ishtiaq Ahmed with whom he is having a running feud over Jinnah. A p-Leftist or e-nationalist ?ajit_tr wrote:The J-man and his Pakistan
That is true to an extent in the context of the Khilafat Movement. However, Gandhiji did not use religion to divide people as Jinnah did. Jinnah used religion to unleash terror, and sow the seeds of separatism and fundamentalism by appealing to the basal instincts. Gandhiji went to communally affected Muslim areas to protect them and serve them. There is no one incident of Jinnah ever having done anything like that for Hindus and Sikhs. To equate Gandhiji's usage of religious symbolism to Jinnah's usage is blasphemous.. . . environment already poisoned by the introduction of religion into politics — by the great Mahatma Gandhi no less —
The author is trying to depict JUH as though it were a rabid, frothing-at-the-mouth-corner Islamist party from which Jinnah tried to save his fellow Mussalman. No, sir. He used religious symbolism to attract Muslims to his fold because Jamaat-e-Ulema-i-Hind of Deoband did not favour the creation of a state based on religion because its leader Maulana Madani felt that "nations are determined by their homeland", and that "race and religion do not make a nation."[Jinnah]did appeal to the Islamic ideals of unity, equality, fraternity and justice to wean away supporters from Islamist parties like the Jamiat-e-Ulema-e-Hind
Gandhi was trying to oppose the imperial powers and their plans by supporting the Khilafat. It was just a geopolitical moveSSridhar wrote:
He saysThat is true to an extent in the context of the Khilafat Movement. To equate Gandhiji's usage of religious symbolism to Jinnah's usage is blasphemous.. . . environment already poisoned by the introduction of religion into politics — by the great Mahatma Gandhi no less —
Another lie by PakizA_Gupta wrote:1 millon motorcycles manufactured and sold in Pakistan in 11 months - so things are not as bad there yet as suggested by some. Maybe it will be motorcycle gangs invading India?
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