Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 21, 2010

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TFT

Such Gup

“Precisely”

Our mole reports that Mush has been doing a bit of introspection lately. We hear he was talking about his former institution to a concerned citizen, the latter voicing concern about the direction in which Pakistan was headed, thanks in large measure to the khakis who have ruled the country directly or indirectly for most of its existence. Mush countered his interlocutor’s pessimism by saying that his institution was in better shape than when he took over. “Where are Aziz, Usmani and Mahmud ?” Mush asked rhetorically, naming the generals who helped stage the 1999 coup against the then Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif. “In the Tableeghi Jamaat”, replied his interlocutor. “Precisely”, said Mush. He then related the story of a smart young major, a former Aitchisonian, with top of the line credentials, who was expected to go all the way up and pretty quickly too. Incredibly, Mush said, the major was bypassed when it came to promotions. This is when Mush was at the core of things in Mangla. The major’s dad ran into Mush at an event somewhere and complained that his son was denied promotion for no good reason. Mush says he called the Major in and asked why he thought he was passed over. The Major was speechless with emotion and couldn’t say much. Mush says he asked his snoops to find out. Soon, a report was presented to Mush which stated that the Brig then at the head of the board had asked the poor Major to recite Dua-e-Qunoot. The Major drew a blank and was duly denied promotion on that basis. “That’s the army I inherited”, Mush told his interlocutor. He finessed his argument by saying that he had also forbidden the Tableeghi Jamaat from proselytizing amongst the ranks and officers, a practice first instituted by the late unlamented Tyrant Terry Thomas.
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Vivek ji what s the source of that article
seems like it is PR stuff for mushy's party
mushy is a story of lies and lies,,
he even lied many times in his own biography , this feat stands unbeaten at guinness book of world records for a person who lied most in his autobiography :rotfl:
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LAHORE: In the first terrorist attack of its kind in the Punjab capital, two alleged suicide bombers blew themselves up at the Data Ganj Bakhsh shrine on Thursday night, killing at least 40 people and injuring 170 others.

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40 dead, with 170 injured we can lots more to meet their 72. Ideally 72 should meet their 72's.
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India’s post-Mumbai policy unchanged :roll:
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... -270-rs-03
NEW DELHI: There is no change in India’s policy towards Pakistan since the November 2008 terrorist attacks in Mumbai. Terrorism was, is and will continue to remain the major concern for India.This was the message hammered home to a Pakistani media contingent in a day-long series of meetings with Indian officials, including External Affairs Minister S.M. Krishna, Union Minister P. Chidambaram and Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao.
The Indian line is neither new nor a surprise, it has been the consistent, publicly declared policy of the Indian government since the Mumbai attacks; however, recently, the media narrative at least has been dominated by the possibility of some kind of thaw in relations.Yesterday, Indian officials seemed keen to put any thoughts of a meaningful thaw on ice. At least until the ‘core concern’, ‘deep scar’, ‘major issue’, i.e. terrorism, is addressed ‘adequately’ by Pakistani authorities.“We hear often talk of Pakistan having suffered many Mumbais,” an External Affairs official who requested anonymity because he was not authorised to speak publicly said in reference to the high-profile attacks inside Pakistan in recent years. “But make no mistake about it: Mumbai was different.”
That, though, may well be diplomatic hyperbole designed for a Pakistani audience
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Samay wrote:Vivek ji what s the source of that article
TFT stands for The Friday Times.
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Did someone say TSP is 'winning' this whole great game :rotfl: AOA

But there is a worrying trend that hopefully gets arrested soon....every Abdul is vital for purification process...

10 killed in clashes between militants..
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ramana wrote:We need to come up with a different name for the Paki extremist Deobandis who are splittists from India. they are closer to Wahabism than to Deobandis of India
Paki Wahabandis?
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India and Pakistan at the World Cup -- Futbol that is
The two biggest South Asian countries share at least one thing: they both stink at football. But they have a presence at the South Africa World Cup. And the different way in which they are leaving their mark is a parable about their economic fortunes.

Pakistan is present in the form of footballs – five million of the round thingamajigs being kicked around South Africa will be made in the country’s sports good-making centre of Sialkot.

India will be present in the form of infotech management. Mahindra Satyam holds the contract for IT-enabled services for the international football federation, FIFA, for this and the next World Cup. But Pakistan’s soccer story is one of old economy stagnation
Sialkot used to make two-thirds of the world’s footballs. Today it makes about half of the hand-made footballs and a small fraction of the machine-made ones. (Figures differ, but the drop in market share is acknowledged by everyone.) Even the stuff they are sending to South Africa, are not the Jabulanis being kicked around during the actual matches. Those are machine-made in China. :rotfl: Pakistani firms have the contracts for the Jabulani look-alikes used for promotional and training purposes. This is a demotion: Pakistan provided the real thing – the Telstar and Tango balls – in at least two previous World Cups
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Gems from the Dawn report on Sufi killing..
Surveillance cameras, walkthrough gates and metal detectors turned out to be ineffective.
Supplied by taller than mountain friend...one supposes..
He said ball-bearings and other material used in the blasts had also been collected.
we can recycle them for next one..

And from the News junk...
Mian Sajjad Ahmad, Sajjada Nasheen (In-charge) of the Darbar, said they had been receiving threats. He regretted that inadequate security measures led to the incident. He believed that no Muslim could be involved in the said act of terrorism.
Great...let them search for ghosts where they dont exist so the real problems keep growing...
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rajsunder wrote:
CRamS wrote:Guys, you know I am not one of those romantic WKKs who talk about average TSP abduls as our bhais, matter of fact, the avegae abduls routinely support LET terror against India. But the taking out of average abduls like what we saw in Lahore today is a cowardly act by the so called "freedom fighters". I would call them real freedom fighers if they take out 35/40 TSPA and ISI thugs from GHQ every other day. Now that would be liberating, not only for the average TSP abdul, but also for India.
Dont forget that this is the very same common abdul that put money in jars set up in every corner stone with a label for Jihad in kashmir. And this is the same abdul that donates the skin of the sacrificial bakri to the madrasas that feed the jihad machine in India. And this is the same common abdul that thinks kasab should be let go because he was fighting for the cause of islam.
It may be a cowardly act but was he not encouraging the same in India??
The end story is that in his quest for pure version of Islam, he got kicked down by a guy who believes that he is far more purer than this common abdul. Should a common man in INDIA feel sorry for that???
Much as I like the "purer" hitting the "Less pure" hypothesis - the sheer brutality of these attacks suggest a deeper issue with Pakistan which may be geting a few Pakis to wake up and smell the coffee as a well known brfite urges.

Not meaning to do an equalequal. but if you look at naxal brutality and ask yourself as an Indian why naxals might be so brutal - you are likely to come up with the explanation that it is both social desperation (motive) and communist ideology (Justification for action)

I am beginning to wonder if Pakiland's bestial killings are both Islamist ideology (Justification for action) as well as sheer desperation (motive) of a class of people who have just been left out. Those of us who have studied the history of partition know that islam was sued to cook up desperation and then provide the motive for killling. But in a pure land that has few kafirs to kill - the desperation has to be taken out on someone - even if they are nearly Muslims or nominally Muslims.

It's not the Islam (we all know about that) but it is the desperation that we need to note. What are the causes of that desperation. As long as Pakis face that desperation it will never rise above a particular level.
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Just when you are about to lose faith in the true Paji culture when, BAM! comes along this gem of a story that once again reinforces your undying faith in all things paji.
The new saga of Turkish lady guides

'Lady guides’ hired during Zardari’s Turkey visit not paid
In an embarrassing scandal, which has ashamed officials who are trying to play it down, a Turkish court had to order the Pakistani Consulate in Istanbul to pay about $8,000 to five Turkish girls who were hired during the December 2008 visit to Turkey of President Asif Ali Zardari as “lady guides” but were never paid for their services.The girls, provided by a travel agency, were supposed to ‘facilitate the entourage’ during the president’s visit to Istanbul, but payment was later refused, sparking a legal battle which was finally settled after a court order in February this year. 8)
All this happened in December 2008 when the Counsel General of Pakistan in Istanbul hired the Turkish girls as ‘lady guides’ who remained at the disposal of the entourage for two days.
The girls were hired from a non-registered tourism operator, casting doubts about the nature of their services.
While the FO spokesman called these ladies “interpreters”, nowhere in the thick file of letters and documents has it been mentioned that they were hired for interpretation. These letters, copies of which are available, describe them as guides, lady guides and facilitators for the entourage of the president.
A three-page letter by Tariq, the incumbent ambassador, sent to the commerce ministry and the Foreign Office reveals that the agency, M/s Ozgun Travels, appears to be a dubious enterprise as their telephone and fax numbers were non-functional.
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Paji Education Minister's take on the fake degrees issue

Education minister does not see fake degrees as ‘big crime’
Federal Minister for Education Sardar Aseff Ahmed Ali does not see fake degrees as a big crime and said that the cost of fake degrees should not be the ineligibility of the people elected representatives. “The compensation of some crime should be equal to the nature of that crime and the same applies to the case of fake degrees where the public representatives should not be sent back home merely on the basis of this small mistake,” said Ali.

He said that it was rather the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP), which was responsible for scrutinising the nomination papers of all the contestants. “Why haven’t they scrutinised the documents properly when they were submitted to returning officer?” he asked.
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^^ So its not just the money why the civvies are risking their lives and fighting elections in that fake democratic cesspool. After all they probably have enough money stashed away to live comfortable ever after. It is the wimmen, stupid! you get the taste of many different nationalities, all at your taxpayers' expense...
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anupmisra wrote:Just when you are about to lose faith in the true Paji culture when, BAM! comes along this gem of a story that once again reinforces your undying faith in all things paji.
The new saga of Turkish lady guides

'Lady guides’ hired during Zardari’s Turkey visit not paid
You see Zardari has class...unlike Groper Gilani who goes for perverted stuff our man knows how to go about it...only forgot to pay for it..
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Most Pakistanis are Sufi claims the WSJ

But no surprise really, since the article is co-written by Zahid Hussain, a Pakistani journalist. He goes on to claim: "Government and security officials say that as ordinary Pakistanis become increasingly weary of regular attacks, militants could become subject to backlash from the country's more moderate majority." :rotfl:

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Investigators and security officials at the Data Gunj Bakhsh complex in Lahore, Pakistan, after three suicide bombers attacked the Sufi shrine during late-night prayers Thursday.
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Vote of no-confidence by Austrian Soccer Coach

‘Pakistan’s World Cup dream is impossible’
It is not possible that Pakistan will be seen in the next few decades joining the cluster of World Cup playing nations because of the strange way the authorities are dealing with the game in the country
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Suppiah wrote:
anupmisra wrote:Just when you are about to lose faith in the true Paji culture when, BAM! comes along this gem of a story that once again reinforces your undying faith in all things paji.
The new saga of Turkish lady guides

'Lady guides’ hired during Zardari’s Turkey visit not paid
You see Zardari has class...unlike Groper Gilani who goes for perverted stuff our man knows how to go about it...only forgot to pay for it..
Or forgot to ask someone else to pay for it.
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CRamS wrote:But the taking out of average abduls like what we saw in Lahore today is a cowardly act by the so called "freedom fighters".
By the same token, the LeT/JeM/HuJI are cowards when they attack ordinary Indian civilians going about their normal business in Indian cities. They do it because infidels need to be eliminated, simple. Those who worship in shrines are as deviant (mushraqeen) as Hindus. The Lahoris are al-adou-al-qareeb (enemy who is nearby) while the Indians are al-adou-al-baeed (enemy who is distant) but both equally deserving of slaughter.
I would call them real freedom fighers if they take out 35/40 TSPA and ISI thugs from GHQ every other day.
That's what the 'bad Taliban' are doing and that's why they are bad, aren't they ?
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Even in death
Friday, July 02, 2010
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A friend once told me a strange story about visas. Her uncle, an Indian married to a Pakistani and working in a third country, died in a country he was visiting on business. The question his family faced: where would he be buried? The natural choice was India, his home country, but then his wife and son would be unable to come. After many unsuccessful attempts to get them visas, the extended family decided to take the only other option and bury the man in a 'neutral' country. Borders followed him, even in death. Another friend, Tanveer Ahmed, a young man living in London, discovered one day that his 80-year-old grandmother, once a Hindu, still had a brother in their home village in Indian Kashmir. He thought he would try to take his grandmother, 16 at the time of Partition, to Kashmir to meet her brother. He spent four years trying to get her a visa. The reunion was spectacular and deeply emotional.

There are hundreds of such stories. You don't need to go in search of them – just make a trip to the Pakistan High Commission in India, and look at the crowds lining up for visas. "We issue 500 visas a day," a visa officer once told me, "more than any other embassy. And a visa costs only Rs15.00." It's a long time since I got one, so the costs may have gone up, but something about the price of the visa underlines the understanding, on the part of the state, that there are many, many people who want to make that particular crossing.
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Side-effect


Constant, for sure

Friday, July 02, 2010
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Seasoned Indian diplomat and legislator Mani Shankar Aiyar, in his column titled "Constant or Composite?" has pleaded for an uninterrupted and uninterruptible dialogue process between the two feuding neighbours. Unlike some of his colleagues who cherish their diatribes when it comes to Indo-Pakistani relations, Aiyar, who was deputy high commissioner in Karachi between 1978 and 1982, mostly speaks in a sombre, conciliatory and humanistic tone.

What else but a humanistic issue does it remain. When farmers in India and the urban poor in Pakistan are committing suicides after killing their children, five-year-olds beg on the streets and seven-year-olds work in fields and factories, thousands die of curable diseases every year and half the population is illiterate, what else but an issue of survival and dignity does it become for a billion of the world's people.
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Aman ki asha bearing fruits."Miles to go before I slaeep"

aman ki asha
A border crossing to remember

Thursday, July 01, 2010
"The Commonwealth Games taking place in New Delhi this year are an achievement for all of South Asia," said Shahbaz Sharif, Chief Minister Punjab, speaking at a dinner in Lahore the night before the Queen Baton's Relay Ceremony at Wagha border between Pakistan and India on June 25, 2010. "It is an opportunity for us to showcase our culture, traditions, rich history and the wealth of our hospitality. We wish the Indian government and the organisers every success and assure them of our full support and cooperation."

Cooperation was much in evidence the following day at the Baton handing-over at Wagha, organised by the Olympics Associations of Pakistan and India. Aman Ki Asha, the joint peace initiative of the Jang Group of Pakistan and The Times of India Group joined in the celebrations with their Peace Chain event, in which schoolchildren tied together strings of handkerchiefs inscribed with peace messages from both countries. With some 200,000 peace hankies completed by schoolchildren in India and about 30,000 in Pakistan, these hankies would form the longest ever such chain if joined together.
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Tug of peace at the border
aman ki asha

Wednesday, June 30, 2010
The Queens' Baton Relay ceremony and the Aman ki Asha Peace Chain Event at Wagah border last Friday, Jun 25th was a success beyond anyone's imaginings. As Laleh Habib, the Aman Ki Asha Coordinator put it later, "It did appear that we were truly blessed; some potential crises were narrowly averted, and the best possible results were manifest. It had been pouring till an hour before we got to Wagah, but it did not damage our equipment, and there was no sign of rain during the event. The rain brought the mercury down, and everything was washed clean. All the performers were excellent; they managed to create and maintain a tempo, and truly engaged the audience. The handkerchief event went off really smoothly at zero point. The production teams coordinated beautifully, and really helped to pull of the event."
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Brad Goodman wrote:
Mango abduls cheering for Kasabs and other jihadis was similar to red necks in massaland love to watch rodeo. Where they sit in the stands with burgers fries and beer and see the rodeo fighting the bull. So they were paying for the entertainment. Now tables have turned the bull has run into the stands and mango abduls are now feeling the islamic horns on their asses. So now I want to see how many will be funding this jihadi frankenstien
That's an interesting point but I don't think it will work that way because when the bull turns on them, the bull will be seen as fundamentalist, and when that same thing is aimed at us, it will be fighting for freedom.
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Surging suicides in Pakistan —Dr Mahjabeen Islam
It is true that there have always been suicides and always will be, in any society. But to relegate it all to mental illness in current day Pakistan is representative of the mental insulation that typifies any party that acquires power

Fauzia Wahab, the PPP information secretary, and her government are fast becoming the Pakistani versions of Marie Antoinette. The Queen of Louis XVI of France, when told that the population could not afford bread, is reported to have said, “Then let them eat cake!”

Suicides are surging in Pakistan and now there is an increase in murder-suicides. Surviving relatives detail their financial desperation or crushing debt. And when fathers, like the rickshaw driver, poison their entire family and then kill themselves, it seems to take the whole nation’s breath away. The many stories are essentially the same, the characters and details a bit different. The refrain is invariably poverty and the frank inability to feed, clothe and shelter a family.
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While India unilaterally relaxes visa requirements for Paki students - and pussy foots around re-starting needless sporting activities, we have the following:

http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news ... ia/640956/
Pakistan government is framing new "policy guidelines" to grant permission to foreign media for reporting in the country, even as it is exploring ways to "dilute and ultimately eliminate the Indian media infiltration."

Information Secretary Mansoor Sohail has convened a meeting of the hitherto unheard of 'Media Coordination Committee on Defence Planning' to discuss the formulation of guidelines for electronic and print media and preparation of a standard operating procedure for giving permission to foreign media for reporting and making documentaries, 'Dawn' newspaper quoted sources in the Information Ministry as saying.

The committee will also evolve a "policy for tuning in the private media to national outlook and securing core national security interests," the report said.

The meeting will also "suggest measures for dilution and ultimate elimination of Indian media infiltration in the country."

The agenda for the meeting showed that the 14-member all-bureaucrat committee will deliberate on proposals given in "working papers" by the Foreign Ministry, Information Ministry, the army's Joint Staff Headquarters (JSHQ) and the Cabinet Division....
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Religious authority and the nation state —Ahmad Ali Khalid
It seems in Pakistan the religious hierarchy is dominated by conservatives and more alarmingly radicals, hence the crucial question is, do these clerics represent the wider religiosity of the Pakistani public?

The nation state marks a paradigm shift for Muslim societies who have traditionally been ruled by sultanates, self-proclaimed caliphs and monarchs. The concept of the nation state, itself arguably born out of the experiences of the French and American Revolutions, which gave rise to the phenomenon of constitutionalism, codification of a positivist law and separation of powers, has presented unique challenges to Muslim societies.
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Great initiative by the Duo to promote peace.Their efforts must be applauded and supported by all south asians.

Aisam and Bopanna plan cross-border match
LONDON: Pakistan’s Aisamul Haq Qureshi and India’s Rohan Bopanna are aiming to play an extraordinary tennis match to promote peace between the two countries – using the famous Wagah border as the net. The duo were knocked out of the Wimbledon’s men’s doubles quarterfinals here on Wednesday – their best-ever Grand Slam performance – but caused a stir by wearing jackets emblazoned with the slogan ‘Stop War, Start Tennis’. The pair will be wearing the tracksuit tops when they play at the US Open and are mulling over a new logo to decorate them with in New York. And now they are seeking permission to face each other with the net on the Radcliffe Line that has divided the village of Wagah since 1947, with Aisam playing on the Indian side and Bopanna on the Pakistani side.
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Arindam wrote:While India unilaterally relaxes visa requirements for Paki students - and pussy foots around re-starting needless sporting activities, we have the following:

http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news ... ia/640956/
Atleast someone had to take positive steps to promote peace between the warring countries.I'm glad India did it.It would've been more better if indian universities and premiers institutes like IITs,RECs,IIMs,JNU etc reserve some percentage of seats for Pakistani students.Atleast that way india can wean away Pakistani students,who don't 've proper institutes to study, from terrorists churning madarssas'.


And regarding Dilution and elimination of indian media from pakistan is quite difficult coz majority of the population is hooked to bollywood and indian soaps.Pakistani watch more indian channels than indians do.
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Yes pakistanis expect permier Indian institutes like the IITs, RECs, IIMs to reserve seats for Pakistani students.

After all the Lashkar-e-Tayyba has reserved seats in terrorist training colleges, specially its daura-e-aam and daura-e-khaas courses for people of all nationalities, specially Indian kashmiris.

Pakistan's demand is righteous and a just one indeed. India must give the pakistanis what is the birthright of the people of pakistan.
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I'm glad India did it.It would've been more better if indian universities and premiers institutes like IITs,RECs,IIMs,JNU etc reserve some percentage of seats for Pakistani students.Atleast that way india can wean away Pakistani students,who don't 've proper institutes to study, from terrorists churning madarssas'.
Pakistan is a terrorist state and a largely terrorist society - wherever you have more than a few thousand Pakistanis - you will have Pakistani style terrorism. The data on this is overwhelming.

If it were so easy to turn Pakistani students away from terror - then 75% of terror plots in the UK would not have been traced back to Pakistan and Pakistanis. 50% of the educated in Pakistan would not support suicide bombings in Kashmir (India).

Quarantining Pakistanis from civilized societies should be tried as an option.

Incidentally, terrorist churning madrassa are not the only issue here - Pakistani students from Pakistani government educated schools also turn out to be terrorists - the fault does not lie within the madrassas, but in the diseased society, that is Pakistan.
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^^^^
You cannot take the inner pakistaniyat out of a paki. We had some of these species on exchange at our madrassa, albeit these sub humans were non resident pakis, but pakis they were, leching at females all the time, getting drunk & being a total nuisance to all and a general sense of superiority over all...they must be kept as far away as possible. If only we had things our way, we would have given these sub humans a sound thrashing, but then the admin would anyway be soft of the exchange students.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 21, 20

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ajit_tr, Mani Shankar Aiyar, Aman-ki-Asha and Aisam-Bopanna are all individual efforts. I believe that all these efforts are in the end worthless and useless unless the 'hatred' that exists is addressed. The 'hatred' in Pakistan for India, Hindus and by extension Indians comes from religious and political angles. It is institutionalized by the Government of Pakistan, no less. External players like the British, the US or PRC might have taken advantage of that for their geopolitical and geostrategic reasons but it must be recognized that this hatred manufactured by the Muslims of the Gangetic Plains was later hijacked by the Muslims of Panjnad in Pakistan and exported to East Pakistan and NWFP. An attempt is being made to export it to Afghanistan now.

The Pakistani Punjab derived many benefits out of this. It was able to expand and justify its dominance over the other provinces. It used many instruments to sustain that hatred and dominance. The Pakistani Army is an extension of the Punjab which is actually the 'Prussia of Pakistan'. With the largest number of bureaucrats in GoP coming from Central Punjab, implementing this hatred and sustaining it over the long run has been easy.

Unless Pakistan is willing to address this root cause, not Kashmir as they conveniently claim, there won't be peace in this region.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 21, 20

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The wholesale slaughter in Land of the Poaks is sign of Mahdi's advent to Purify Poakroach People . The mystery of today's qital is that weather these dead ones were 'innocent' or "innovators" as Pak Islam prohibit killing of the innocents. Hope the inverstigators find out the truth weather the suicide bombers did their special prayers for about to be killed Poakroachers otherwise their deeds will go waste as unislamic and wont earn any spiritual merit. So far Poakeestan has been symbol of Islam in South Asia but now they must climb to new horizon and become symbol of Pure Islam completely void of Kuffar, Munafqeens, Bida bearers and Wajibul Kital Ahamadi.
Last , Do Poaks still want Koshmir?
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 21, 20

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Arindam wrote: Incidentally, terrorist churning madrassa are not the only issue here - Pakistani students from Pakistani government educated schools also turn out to be terrorists - the fault does not lie within the madrassas, but in the diseased society, that is Pakistan.
I believe that "Aman ki Asha" which is aiming at school children is a form of fishing in these troubled waters - i.e to set up in several thousand Pakistani school children, feelings of doubt when they are taught that India is to be hated.

To me it appears that a battle has been started by India inside Pakistan on the premise that many minds exists that have not, or have not yet, had the indoctrination and that those minds must be caught right now and moulded.

Those who are diseased will never change - but the sick Pakis are not even running a good enough education system. They are not managing to indoctrinate hatred in 100% of Pakis children. As per estimates posted on this thread - only 30% of Paki children are getting the indoctrination because of an ineffective Pakis education system

It is to our benefit to meddle inside Pakistan on Pakistani minds to ensure that Paki children of the future are exposed to a different story - a story that will set up cognitive dissonance and denial if later indoctrination is attempted. Social engineering of Pakistan is being attempted under our very noses.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 21, 20

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Atleast someone had to take positive steps to promote peace between the warring countries.I'm glad India did it.It would've been more better if indian universities and premiers institutes like IITs,RECs,IIMs,JNU etc reserve some percentage of seats for Pakistani students.Atleast that way india can wean away Pakistani students,who don't 've proper institutes to study, from terrorists churning madarssas'.
:rotfl: :rotfl:

If the above happens, we would have Indian IIT trained terrorists in future news reports instead of the usual LMU/LSE/US educated terrorists turning up now..
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 21, 20

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shiv wrote:
ramana wrote:We need to come up with a different name for the Paki extremist Deobandis who are splittists from India. they are closer to Wahabism than to Deobandis of India
Paki Wahabandis?

I like that term to describe the extremist Deobandis of TSP to distinguish from Indian Unionist Deobandis.

ArmenT Please add to the glossary and folks try to popularise it.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 21, 20

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I wonder whether these so called peaceniks advising peace with pakistan live in isolation? The paki education curriculum promoting hatred for Indians and non-muslims is there for everyone to see. Even educated pakis like Headley, Faizal Shahzad,and the killer of Daniel Pearl etc were highly educated. The scotland bombing suspects were educated in UK. If all these educated guys can commit terrorist acts without thinking twice, what is the guarantee that IIT trained pakis won't do the same? As someone rightly said, we will end up arresting IIT/IIM trained pakis in future if we reserve seats for them.

Aman-ki-Asha is more of a US sponsored program running more in India than in Pakistan. The Pakistani co-sponsor of Aman-ki-Asha is still spouting false stories on India and the water issue even today. Some media houses are advocating aman-ki-asha for their own ends, and some gullible people have fallen for it and are advocating it. You just have to scratch the surface of even pakis in US for their true colors to come out.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 21, 20

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Next you will have them planning to bumb these institutions, because they weren't allowed in.

Err, would everyone please stop mentioning IIT and Pakistan in the same sentence please. I apologize for using it, but it is a stupid wet dream that the pakis have.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 21, 20

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SSridhar wrote:By the same token, the LeT/JeM/HuJI are cowards when they attack ordinary Indian civilians going about their normal business in Indian cities. They do it because infidels need to be eliminated, simple. Those who worship in shrines are as deviant (mushraqeen) as Hindus. The Lahoris are al-adou-al-qareeb (enemy who is nearby) while the Indians are al-adou-al-baeed (enemy who is distant) but both equally deserving of slaughter.
Good points. But here is what I was trying to say. Do you think the slaughter of those infidels will stir the conscience of TSPA/ISI/RAPE one iota? They wouldn't have batted an eyelid. For them the party continues.
I would call them real freedom fighers if they take out 35/40 TSPA and ISI thugs from GHQ every other day.

That's what the 'bad Taliban' are doing and that's why they are bad, aren't they ?
Now if more of the TSPA/ISI/RAPE are taken out, thats when the rubber meets the road. It will send shock waves not only in the bunkers of GHQ in Rawilpindi, but also in the halls of power in US/UK, the hypocrites there will also take notice as their terrorist assets get consumed. Incidentally, where are the 'bad Taliban' these days? Taking a drinks break or what?
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 21, 20

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My question to those folks who want seats reserved for Pakis in education institutions, give free surgeries.

When thousands of bright Mango Indian stuedents and turned away by IIT's, cannot afford donation for private universities are reduced to a life of Mediocrity, why the f*** should GOI spenmd money on educating foreigners.

when hospitals are flleecing millions of mango Indians and many Indians are dying because they cannot afford healthcare, why the f*** are we spending many on surgeries for Foreigners.

For these WKK types- they think exactly like a person in Washington. The average Indian's life and dreams are worthless and cheap
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