Internal Security Watch

munna · Post by **munna** » 01 Jul 2010 22:14

ramana wrote:So can these groups be activated in case of hostilities with TSP?

Yes, but in terms of footsoldiers they are really over the hill. Unlike some other state polices Punjab police has been able to fight back and put a lid on the insurgents. The impact of any such activation during hostilities will be negligible, however more worrisome angle is the reactivation of Naxalis in the south-Punjab aka Malwa belt. We need to watch that...

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 01 Jul 2010 22:15

Add that post to the two front war thread.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 01 Jul 2010 22:36

^ Could it be that the Maoist-Jihadi nexus is using necessary mask to suit local conditions? Use Naxalism in one place and Jihadism another place. The actors, logistics etc will be the same...

Nice strategy... There could be more tolerance in India for Maoism than say Jihadism....

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 03 Jul 2010 21:48

Shame!
Hawala kingpin gets bail as NCB fails to file chargesheet

A man allegedly involved in an international drug trafficking syndicate Saturday secured bail from a Delhi court as the Narcotics Control Bureau (NCB) failed to file a chargesheet within the stipulated 180 days.
"The accused (Naresh Kumar Jain) is enlarged on bail on furnishing a personal and surety bond of Rs 2 lakh each as the prosecuting agency could not file the chargesheet within time," special judge Sanjiv Jain said.
Jain, who is in jail since his arrest on December six last year, had filed an application under Section 167 of the CrPC which entitles an accused to get bail if the probe agency fails to file the chargesheet within the stipulated time.
The NCB had said the documents for completion of probe were to be collected from Italy, the USA, the UK and UAE and it was a time-consuming exercise.
The court had on May 15 issued letters rogatory to the courts in foreign countries to seek their help in the probe.
However, ten days after the issuance of the letters rogatory, the court dismissed the plea of NCB for extension of time by one year to conclude the probe.
Jain is booked under Narcotics Drugs and Psychotropic Substances Act for allegedly financing and transporting narcotic drugs to international markets.
The NCB had alleged Jain, wanted in Italy, absconded from Dubai and entered India illegally via Nepal and he had links with Albanian drug traffickers as well.
Besides the drugs case, Jain is also booked by the Enforcement Directorate (ED) under various provisions of the Prevention of Money Laundering Act (PMLA) for his alleged hawala transactions.
The court had also granted him the bail in the case as the ED, like the NCB, failed to file the chargesheet within time.
Jain, who used to run M/s Kumar Trading Company in Dubai, was arrested there as well after it came to light that sale proceeds of drugs, running into several crores of rupees, were credited to the firm's account, the ED had said.
The money was "transferred" to the account of the company from Europe, China and Africa, it said.
The accused was also under the surveillance of US authorities which had confiscated USD 4.3 million from him in June last year, it said.
The ED also said the accused had financed persons involved in drug syndicate in India and abroad.
He allegedly laundered money for global terrorist Dawood Ibrahim and financed narcotic cells, it said.

naren · Post by **naren** » 03 Jul 2010 23:37

[6:22] If he (OBL) is fighting the enemies of Islam, I'm for it.

sum · Post by **sum** » 04 Jul 2010 11:23

Any updates on the Maudhany case? Suddenyl seems to have died out after all the hoopla about imminent arrest!!

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 04 Jul 2010 12:43

Big Big news... After Jewel Garlosa, Niranjan Hojai was like the last man standing against the dismantling of DHD(J). Now with the Dilip Nunisa group bargaining with GoI, JG in jail caught in Bangalore, and NH caught in nepal and handed over, and the renaming of North Cachar Hills as Dima Hasao Raje, hopefully the DHD or the black widows saga and the dimasa whinefest can be put to rest. Unless of course some more pythons show their head. Unless of course Zeme Nagas, Kukis, etc. and their demand for splintering NC Hills takes a violent turn. Whatever it is, PC Haldar has his plates full. GoI needs to bring in one more interlocutor for the NE. NDFB, DHD, ULFA, AVNC, how many can PCH handle?

Niranjan Hojai, a self-styled commander-in-chief of the Dima Halam Daogah (Jewel), was apprehended from Nepal last night. He was handed over today to the National Investigating Agency which produced him in the Motihari sessions court in Bihar and got a four-day transit remand.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1100704/j ... 644248.jsp

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 04 Jul 2010 13:29

Sum, I hate to say this: there are a couple of other reports, one in sentinel and another in the assam tribune. They highlight how much access the NIA has in nepal. This despite the ToI and other whinefest about how Indian power in nepal has been bruised, eroded, packaged and sold to the cheapest buyer that is china. There are developments one has to keep note of, the case of nepal going china way is an impossibility. Same for SL. Both are wedded to India by their unique geography, just like we are wedded to the pita called pak-e-satan. The case of circling and stringing are good excuses for much needed funds, but the issue is that the youngistan brigade can take it too far in their ululations (as can be seen in the 2-front war thread). Reality is a bit more nuanced and far more even-handed.

PS: Sorry to address it to you specifically

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Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 04 Jul 2010 22:08

sum wrote:Any updates on the Maudhany case? Suddenyl seems to have died out after all the hoopla about imminent arrest!!

Today's news reports had another major news. A college professor who had made a question paper in which certain remarks against the prophet has been attacked. His right hand has been chopped off by a group of assailants when he was back from the church after the Sunday Mass.

The professor had made a question paper which had some questions in which the name 'Mohammed' was used. This had let to a small riot in the areas near the college. The home ministry (state level) had to take some action against the professor after he went hiding. K.P used the old blackmailing technique, the professor's son and his wife's brother were picked up for 'interrogation'. The professor surrendered, but he had also asked for police protection, which looks like was not given.

I dont know if this is a kind of 'show of strength' by Mahdani sympathisers or any terrorist gang. But this seems to have a streak of 'Taliban', and draws a close parallel to the case of the Dutch movie director.

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 04 Jul 2010 22:38

Sachin wrote:
sum wrote:Any updates on the Maudhany case? Suddenyl seems to have died out after all the hoopla about imminent arrest!!
Today's news reports had another major news. A college professor who had made a question paper in which certain remarks against the prophet has been attacked. His right hand has been chopped off by a group of assailants when he was back from the church after the Sunday Mass.

The professor had made a question paper which had some questions in which the name 'Mohammed' was used. This had let to a small riot in the areas near the college. The home ministry (state level) had to take some action against the professor after he went hiding. K.P used the old blackmailing technique, the professor's son and his wife's brother were picked up for 'interrogation'. The professor surrendered, but he had also asked for police protection, which looks like was not given.

I dont know if this is a kind of 'show of strength' by Mahdani sympathisers or any terrorist gang. But this seems to have a streak of 'Taliban', and draws a close parallel to the case of the Dutch movie director.

Did the state government slap 295A on him? Absolutely deplorable that this happens in a country that claims to be a modern, secular democracy. The more scary thing is that this happened even when the victim here belonged to the RoL , I shudder to think what would have happened if the Prof was a Hindu.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 05 Jul 2010 02:40

Ishrat Jahan was an LeT fidayeen: Headley

Airavat · Post by **Airavat** » 05 Jul 2010 05:35

^^^^^
Major embarrassment for the SIT, Harsh Mander, Teesta whats-her-wad, and others.

The officer, who did not want to be named, said there were glaring loopholes in the police theory that the four belonged to LeT. “From the evidence, it appears that Jahan and Sheikh might have never met Ali and Gani. Ali and Gani were Pakistanis. It is possible that all the four were put in a car by the police before they were bumped off,” the officer said.

The SIT report, when submitted, will vindicate last year’s findings by metropolitan magistrate S.P. Tamang.

derkonig · Post by **derkonig** » 05 Jul 2010 08:47

^^^
Dont forget uber patriot Javed Akhtar & Abu Azmi. Why doesn't some newspaper question these people about their support to these terrorists?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 05 Jul 2010 09:30

Alleging blasphemy, fanatics hack lecturer's hand
Expanding on what Sachin already posted.

Lecturer T J Joseph was returning home from church with his mother and sister around 8.30 am in Muvattupuzha in Ernakulam district when he was accosted by the attackers. "We had just got into our car when a van pulled up in front. Around eight people armed with swords and knives emerged and pulled out Joseph after smashing the windscreen.
They then chopped off his right hand and stabbed him in the left thigh," said Joseph's sister, Mary Stella, a nun.

"When we tried to prevent them, they attacked me and and our mother before exploding bombs and fleeing."

A police team recovered the severed hand from the compound of a house about 200m away. The 52-year-old lecturer was rushed to a private hospital where his condition is serious.

Two men, said to be activists of the Popular Front, a new incarnation of the hardline National Democratic Front, {This is spreading its tentacles in TN and Karnataka as well. A very dangerous outfit}have also been taken into custody.

In March this year, Islamic outfits had carried out protests against Joseph, who was a lecturer in the church-run Newman college in Thodupuzha in Idukki district over a portion in the Malayalam question paper for an internal examination for BCom students. They claimed that the question paper insulted the Prophet. The college later suspended Joseph who had set the questions and a criminal case was registered against him. The case is pending trial.

Reacting to the incident, state home minister Kodiyeri Balakrishnan told reporters in New Delhi that the police would probe if any communal or terrorist outfit was involved.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 05 Jul 2010 10:01

SSridhar wrote:

Two men, said to be activists of the Popular Front, a new incarnation of the hardline National Democratic Front, {This is spreading its tentacles in TN and Karnataka as well. A very dangerous outfit}have also been taken into custody.

There is a rapid mushrooming of a large number of mini dept stores and local kirana type shops all with innocuous non controversial Hindu names in the two mentioned states.

Being closed from 1230 to 1430 on fridays is the only indication of the roper. Locals will not pickup these signs easily.

They also control most of the cell phone and sim card selling shops.

Similar situation prevails for people from the northeast ( service industry at low level ) as well as bangladeshis who have entered the security guard trade.

Very easy for antisocials to hide out without suspicions.

partha · Post by **partha** » 05 Jul 2010 11:29

This is spreading its tentacles in TN and Karnataka as well. A very dangerous outfit

Right. PFI was also involved in violence seen in Mysore last year.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 05 Jul 2010 12:01

Mahendra wrote:Ishrat Jahan was an LeT fidayeen: Headley

No comments on this from the usual suspects like Teesta?

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 05 Jul 2010 12:23

Early days yet. Some UPA government minister like the Laden loving Lalu Prasad Yadav will soon issue a report on how Headley was a RAW agent.

James B · Post by **James B** » 05 Jul 2010 13:30

German Bakery blast suspect Bhatkal released

On June 15, a court had granted bail to Samad, arrested in connection with an 2009 arms seizure case and alleged to be involved in the Pune blast case, saying there was no evidence against him.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 05 Jul 2010 17:20

Passage to India: sky marshals on board?

The Australian and Austrian governments want sky marshals on board their carriers operating flights to India.
A request to this affect has been received by the Ministry of Civil Aviation, which has sought the views of the Bureau of Civil Aviation Security — the regulatory authority for civil aviation security in India.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 05 Jul 2010 17:23

ramana wrote: No comments on this from the usual suspects like Teesta?

They will just say it was a Govt of Gujarat and CIA Conspirajeey

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 05 Jul 2010 17:45

shyamd wrote:
The Australian and Austrian governments want sky marshals on board their carriers operating flights to India.

Does qantas and austrian carrier even fly to India? I know of none. Is it that they want air marshals on flights that use the Indian airspace? Now that would be possible as the assies love affair for the kangaro route is well-known.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 05 Jul 2010 17:53

James B wrote:German Bakery blast suspect Bhatkal released

On June 15, a court had granted bail to Samad, arrested in connection with an 2009 arms seizure case and alleged to be involved in the Pune blast case, saying there was no evidence against him.

This Maharashtra ATS seems filled with braggart incompetents.

ajit_tr · Post by **ajit_tr** » 05 Jul 2010 18:00

chetak wrote:This Maharashtra ATS seems filled with braggart incompetents.

It may be the incident of wrong identity.But then maharastra ATS is most competent one.its sucess in breaking 1993 blast case and cleaning mumbai of D-gangs and it solving of malegaon blast case ought to be appreciated.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 05 Jul 2010 18:07

^^^Malegaon blast case "solved"!!!! I thought the latest reports suggest that the charges did not stick!

Sicne the 93 cases, there is a consistent patterns : no one will be found "guilty" and charges either really framed weakly or with "loopholes" or "found to be so" if they are from IM origin. However their "foreign" counterparts will get the full blast and "watertight" cases.

ajit_tr · Post by **ajit_tr** » 05 Jul 2010 18:16

^^ didnt they solve it in 2008 november when they arrested army officer and others from "hindu terror" group.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 05 Jul 2010 18:21

The charges could not be proven in court. I seriously object to your use of the term "hindu terror group". you have not put into quotes or otherwise to indicate that it is an attributed expression by someone else. Unlike the SIMI, or LeT, there has been no consistent series of cases, or authentic literature from any "Hindu" group proclaiming terror as their modus operandi - in the open way in which Islamist "terror groups" have done, which explicitly cite and quote their Islamic sacred texts to justify their "terror".

[added later] Ajit_tr, it would have been better if you also acknowledged that the first time it was an error on your part. You changed and put the quotes after I pointed it out.

sum · Post by **sum** » 05 Jul 2010 18:23

Stan_Savljevic wrote:Sum, I hate to say this: there are a couple of other reports, one in sentinel and another in the assam tribune. They highlight how much access the NIA has in nepal. This despite the ToI and other whinefest about how Indian power in nepal has been bruised, eroded, packaged and sold to the cheapest buyer that is china. There are developments one has to keep note of, the case of nepal going china way is an impossibility. Same for SL. Both are wedded to India by their unique geography, just like we are wedded to the pita called pak-e-satan. The case of circling and stringing are good excuses for much needed funds, but the issue is that the youngistan brigade can take it too far in their ululations (as can be seen in the 2-front war thread). Reality is a bit more nuanced and far more even-handed.

PS: Sorry to address it to you specifically .

Stan-garu,
Which post of mine were you responding to? Asking since i never have felt that Nepal will ever slip away from India's sphere!!

Also, could you please post the links for the articles on NIA in Nepal? You could also post it on your blog if not here since i am following both BR and your blog equally diligently!!

TIA

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 05 Jul 2010 18:28

^^^Will not Nepal be equally or even more scared of Chinese overshadow, in case India appears "weaker" - all the more reason to hedge bets!

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 05 Jul 2010 18:34

ajit_tr wrote:^^ didnt they solve it in 2008 november when they arrested army officer and others from "hindu terror" group.

Yeah, right!!

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 05 Jul 2010 18:39

sum wrote: Stan,
Which post of mine were you responding to? Asking since i never have felt that Nepal will ever slip away from India's sphere!!

Sorry boss, nothing specific. I was just addressing a random point and mixed up you with something else; people get old you know

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The NIA was addressed to you

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http://www.assamtribune.com/scripts/det ... l0410/at06

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 05 Jul 2010 20:49

ajit_tr wrote:But then maharastra ATS is most competent one.its sucess in breaking 1993 blast case and cleaning mumbai of D-gangs and it solving of malegaon blast case ought to be appreciated.

If I am not mistaken the 1993 blasts were solved by special investigation teams from Mumbai Police only. I really dont think a dedictaed ATS (Anti Terrorist Squad) existed at that time. The special investigation teams were under command of Rakesh Maria IPS who was a DCP at that time. I suggest you read the book 'Black Friday'which talks about the 1993 blasts and subsequent investigation in detail.

derkonig · Post by **derkonig** » 06 Jul 2010 01:43

Is it just me or are we witnessing an inflection point in the anti-India activities of the Mullah Missionary Marxist brigade?

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 06 Jul 2010 02:10

Stan_Savljevic wrote: Does qantas and austrian carrier even fly to India? I know of none. Is it that they want air marshals on flights that use the Indian airspace? Now that would be possible as the assies love affair for the kangaro route is well-known.

Yes, they do. Austrian is quite popular for european travelers. Flew with them a few years ago. Qantas been flying for a long time I think. But its quite interesting that they both have requested within a space of a month. Perhaps intel sharing between them?

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 06 Jul 2010 08:17

Attack against Islamic tenets: Muslim leaders

http://www.hindu.com/2010/07/06/stories ... 721300.htm

The signatories are Manzoor Alam, secretary-general, All India Milli Council; Mohammad Jafar, Naib Ameer, Jamaat e Islami Hind and acting president, All India Muslim Majlis-e Mushawarat; Zafarul-Islam Khan, former president, All India Muslim Majlis e Mushawarat and Editor of The Milli Gazette; Niaz Farouqui, secretary, Jamiat Ulama e Hind; Navaid Hamid, general secretary, Movement for Empowerment of Muslim Indians and member of the National Integration Council.

Are these guys linked to extremist groups?

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 06 Jul 2010 09:11

abhishek_sharma wrote: Mohammad Jafar, Naib Ameer, Jamaat e Islami Hind and acting president,

Dont know about the other characters but there is a suspicion in Kerala Police and the ruling government that Jamaat-e-Islami Hind does have some tie up with terrorist organisations. K.P is investigating in that angle as well. But the two chaps who have been picked up (and officially declared as "arrested") are NDF workers.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Jul 2010 09:34

abhishek_sharma wrote:Attack against Islamic tenets: Muslim leaders

What did Prof. Joseph write that made these people so frothing ? Was he suspended from the college after a proper investigation or was it because they feared an Islamist rampage ?

From the above, Teesta madam has spoken.

Condemning the attack, Citizens for Justice and Peace secretary Teesta Setalvad said: “Though the identity of the assailants is still under investigation, media reports suggest that the professor was attacked by three persons armed with swords — who police reports say, belong to the Popular Front of India.”

If his remarks in the question paper were either inflammatory or defamatory, there were saner and democratic means to deal with them. “Are we so fickle in our convictions and in our faith that we cannot tolerate discussion and debate? {Why is she using 'we' ?} If the words or thoughts or sentiments of anyone hurt us, do we have the right to resort to barbaric and unlawful means of redressal,” she asked in a statement.

“Outfits like the PDP and NDF in Kerala have been allowed to carry out a brand of intolerant acts unchecked. This is dangerous to the syncretic traditions of Kerala and the secular traditions of the country as a whole.”

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 06 Jul 2010 10:42

SSridhar wrote:What did Prof. Joseph write that made these people so frothing ? Was he suspended from the college after a proper investigation or was it because they feared an Islamist rampage ?

If what I remember correctly, he had used the word Padachavan (meaning the supreme creator, but generally used by Muslims to mean God) or Mohammad (the name of the prophet) in a humorical way in one of the question papers he prepared. This was for an internal exams. A riot had already happened as soon as the news came out. RoP followers gathered up in numbers and started rioting.

The professor went into hiding for a couple of days. And later he surrendered. There were stories then itself (now pretty much confirmed) that the police had picked up the professor's son and his wife's brother in order to pressurise the professor to surrender. This was when the professor was a member of a pro-leftist association/union. I feel the govt. had to take some action against him, to prove the government's secular credentials.

The professor had repeatedly received threats, and he had also informed the police of the same. But no adequate protection was given. How ever the first arrests really happened within hours. Within a hour or so, the vehicle in which the attackers were travelling was identified & stopped and one gang member arrested. The second arrest too followed soon. So looks K.P had a clear idea on who might be behind this. As of now the Central Range IG and Ernakulam Rural SP are heading the investigation team (with actually a Dy.SP doing the ground work).

To put it on record a lot of Muslim organisations have came out and condemned the incident. Only NDF folks seems to by crying hoarse that their workers are getting targetted by the police on a preconceived notion.

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 06 Jul 2010 14:30

Jetuka gives away Ulfa cadre --- Militant was involved in Luit tea estate attack in Tinsukia district

For ages, Assamese girls have applied jetuka, a kind of mehndi, during Bihu and weddings to make themselves beautiful. But not many know that Ulfa cadres use it on their fingertips to prevent nail diseases, especially while living in Myanmar.
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He said the officer-in-charge of Dhola police station, Ranjan Doley, who was aware of the significance of the jetuka mark, noticed it on Dehingia’s fingertips during interrogation. As he pressed on with his query {nothing left for the imagination hain ji}, the cadres confessed to their Ulfa links.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1100706/j ... 647909.jsp

karthik · Post by **karthik** » 06 Jul 2010 14:50

I was in Kerala two months back, i climbed down from ooty and had to pass through Kerala in route to Goa. I and my friend where surprised to see the number of mosques there. Each street had minimum of 3 mosques. Its a fundamentalist state at the making and i wont be surprised if there is a separatist movement in the future there.