Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2010

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby shiv » 18 Jul 2010 17:15

amit wrote:
But my point is this idea that one section of the GoI led by our dear PM is forever scheming to gift away Kashmir, water and just about everything under the sun to the Pakis and are being prevent by valiant efforts of a small section of desh bhakts doesn't add up.



It does not add up because it was bullsh1t from day 1.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby amit » 18 Jul 2010 17:16

shiv wrote:They have to say that. It is a lame excuse. It hardly matters. Any fool who has led anything will know that internal debate and disagreement are common.


True. One can understand the Why in the case of the Pakis.

But I can't understand the Why when this same narrative persistently rears its head on BRF every time there is an India-Pakistan interaction.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby amit » 18 Jul 2010 17:17

shiv wrote:
amit wrote:
But my point is this idea that one section of the GoI led by our dear PM is forever scheming to gift away Kashmir, water and just about everything under the sun to the Pakis and are being prevent by valiant efforts of a small section of desh bhakts doesn't add up.



It does not add up because it was bullsh1t from day 1.


Doc, you have a very direct way of saying things! :)

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby amit » 18 Jul 2010 17:26

Anway, I think we should recognise the fact that while the GoI of the day has screwed up royally on many occasions before, like Agra and SES to name just two, we should also welcome the fact that it appears that this time at least the GoI seems to have played its cards very well.

If you look at the timelines, it appears very well choreographed.

India is actually granted access to Headley.

He sings like a canary. And interestingly, much of that finds its way into the Indian press. This revives the flagging attention span of the India public to the 26/11 atrocity.

Meanwhile India-Pak talks momentum builds up.

PC goes to Pak for Sarc and tells Kasturi very clearly what the red markers are for India.

Then just on eve of talks between Krishna and Qureshi, Pillai ji detonates his "bomb" which effectively sweeps Kahmir off the agenda despite the nice choreographing of the riots in Kashmir as a lead up to the talks by the Pakis.

Talks breakdown the Pakis make a fool of themselves. And India magnanimously says Oh but we think the talks must go on.

Does this whole sequence seem like a mere coincidence and a slice of luck for India?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby chaanakya » 18 Jul 2010 17:49

The proposal from the Presidency asked Foreign Office to authorise Ambassador Hussain Haqqani to issue visas for diplomats, officials and military personnel for up to one year

ISLAMABAD: In a bid to end a row with the US over diplomatic and official visas, President Asif Ali Zardari has asked Foreign Office to enhance the visa authority of the country’s ambassador to Washington.

The move comes a day before Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s visit to Islamabad for a second round of the Strategic Dialogue.

The proposal from the Presidency asked Foreign Office to authorise Ambassador Hussain Haqqani to issue visas for diplomats, officials and military personnel for up to one year.

At present, the ambassador is authorised to issue three-month entry visas to incoming diplomats and officials, all of whom after arriving here seek an extension, entailing extensive vetting by security agencies. The vetting process takes up to six weeks, causing piling up of applications.

Sources said the prime minister had assented to the proposal and the new visa policy would be implemented soon.

The visa issue has been a persistent irritant in bilateral relations.

While Pakistan has been slow in issuing visas to American diplomats and officials because of doubts that Washington was increasing its intelligence foot print here, the US held back visas of Pakistani diplomats in reciprocity.

In fact, at one stage the visas were also reported to have caused some tensions between the civilian government and the military because the latter was said to be not happy with the former’s intentions to generously facilitate the American diplomats.

And a mini crisis erupted domestically when in September 2009 the Indian press got hold of a letter Ambassador Haqqani had written to Foreign Secretary and ISI chief Lt-Gen Ahmad Shuja Pasha.

In the letter, Mr Haqqani objected to the delay in issuing visas, warning that “harassing Americans or denying them visas hurts the country’s image and can have severe consequences” for US aid to Pakistan and military sales.

It was conjectured then that the letter had been leaked deliberately.

The delays on Pakistani side pertain to visa applications and renewals for CIA personnel, military officers, auditors, development specialists and junior diplomats.

Recently, the problem had become more chronic and visas and ‘agreemas’ (diplomatic acceptance) of senior diplomats were also delayed.

Pakistani officials say the problem was primarily with US military men being posted here and explanation had been sought from the US embassy for dramatic increase in ODRP strength.

In a related development, the visa backlog has been spectacularly cut down ahead of Ms Clinton’s visit.The extension cases, which couple of weeks ago were over 250 tumbled down to little over 100 by Friday, many of which were fresh applications. Similarly, the number of pending entry visas was also halved.

Visas of consul general designates for Peshawar and Karachi have also been issued.

Washington and Islamabad are trying to build a strategic partnership and have engaged in Strategic Dialogue at the ministerial level to overcome the trust deficit mainly due to long-standing difficulties in their ties.

But, diplomatic observers believe, scepticism and cynicism persists and is magnified by issues like visa delays.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby ajit_tr » 18 Jul 2010 17:56

Pak apologises for airspace violation
18 Jul 2010, 0922 hrs IST
Twelve hours after blatant violation of the Indian airspace, sources have told TIMES NOW that Pakistan has admitted to the violation and issued an apology to India.

The apology comes after a Pakistani plane entered the Indian airspace near Jammu's RS Pura area at around 9:15am on Saturday.

The aircraft flew in from Sialkot area in Pakistan and moved towards an Indian Observation Tower. The plane was spotted by a Jawan on Sentry post no: 5.

The area where the violation took place falls under the Western Air Command.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby shiv » 18 Jul 2010 18:25

It is getting positively dangerous for the Pakistani army to resolve anything related to Kashmir.

I have a small piskopoint here: It is only meant to be an analogy. Imagine a one day cricket match between India and say Zimbabwe. India play first and score 400 for 2. Zimbabwe are struggling at 150 for 7 with 5 overs to play.

No matter how hard India tries it is difficult to give the match away. The match can be given away only if the Indian players suddenly walk off and say they won't play, or 5 Indian players gang up and start mercilessly beating a Zimbabwe batsman leading to an eventual disqualification of India and awarding the match to Zimbabwe.

While those last 5 overs (30 balls) are being played we can argue continuously about how India is just about to throw the match. It is good fun in a sense to play this game, but the main side effect is it stops anyone who is serious from watching the game and asking what went wrong for Zimbabwe or what went right for India. Fun as it may be - it is a useless diversion to talk of India throwing the match.

Similarly saying that Kashmir is going to be "given away" is a useless diversion from real events. Other than BRF no Indian leader, politician, WKK media groups have been accusing India of wanting to give Kashmir away. There certainly exist some people who used to ask that Kashmir be given away - they or their articles have even appeared on BRF in the past. But it is high time we put the "Giving Kashmir away" bogey to rest because it blinds us to other possibilities.

Like I said, the Pakistani army is in a fix. It is accepting money and arms from the US to fight the Taliban. The Paki army wants to preserve some elements of the Taliban who are its allies. An "India threat" is important for the Pakistani army to do that. Any threatening move by India would add to the Paki army's comfort and the US's discomfort. But that would not help Pakistan in any way and it would not help Afghanistan either.

I am certain there is a degree of collusion between India and the US in preventing the Paki army from having the "India excuse" ready.

What does India get out of this? Plenty as far as I can tell. The Pakistani army is in a fix - fighting a two and a half front war. Military pressure on India is lowered. But what we want is a stoppage of terrorism. India is playing this game along with the US with the tacit understanding that India will not threaten Pakistan militarily as long as the US takes India's concerns about terrorism seriously and applies pressure on Pakistan to cut terorism and wind down the terorist groups. The Pakistan army is trying desperately not to do that .

The dangerous fact here of course is that Pakistan can theoretically do a repeat of 26/11 and then rapidly mobilize, claiming an "Indian threat" even if India does not mobilize one soldier in response. But the environment and opportunity to do that has to be made hostile for Pakistan. Cold start has done exactly that. Cold start can be said to have failed if Pakistan conducts a terrorist attack and India does not respond. But that again can provide Pakistan only temporary respite because India will have cause to throw away even the lame excuses we are offering for talks now. Ultimately the US war on terror stands to fail if the Pakistani army can escape US clutches.

But the Pakistan army itself could be irreparably damaged in a war with India if it loses US support and this keeps the Pakistan army walking a thin line between cooperating with the US but not fully cooperating. The Pakistan army is the foremost entity in Pakistan that has to be kept in check. After that the other parts need to be managed. Wrong thread for all that.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby anupmisra » 18 Jul 2010 18:26

ajit_tr wrote:Pak apologises for airspace violation
18 Jul 2010, 0922 hrs IST
The plane was spotted by a Jawan on Sentry post no: 5.


I am glad some one was not asleep. Amazing when there's all that state-of-the-art teknalagy.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby jrjrao » 18 Jul 2010 18:31

This is from "Quatrina Hosain", a butt-ugly and enormous amount of make-up laden Paki TV host. BTW, what kind of name and spelling is that? Katherine-e-Quatrina perhaps?

Mumbai card has worn thin
http://tribune.com.pk/story/28493/mumba ... worn-thin/
After this week’s meeting between the foreign ministers of Pakistan and India, it has become abundantly clear that India has no intention of improving relations with Pakistan.

Indian External Affairs Minister, S M Krishna, arrived in Islamabad with a single agenda — that of trying to put Islamabad on the defensive by playing the David Coleman Headley card. Who is that, you may ask? Much to the chagrin of New Delhi, few in Pakistan...know of Headley...

I refuse to be apologetic about the Mumbai attacks any more. The Mumbai card has worn thin and no longer elicits sympathy — not when we have to weep over our dead on a daily basis. Just how many Pakistanis have to die before the world sits up and sees Pakistan as the worst victim of global terrorism? Is there a magic number — 20,000, nay 50,000?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby shiv » 18 Jul 2010 18:31

anupmisra wrote:18 Jul 2010, 0922 hrs IST
The plane was spotted by a Jawan on Sentry post no: 5.


I am glad some one was not asleep. Amazing when there's all that state-of-the-art teknalagy.[/quote]

Could be a small observation type aircraft looking for gaps to facilitate infiltration.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Suppiah » 18 Jul 2010 18:42

shiv wrote:Other than BRF no Indian leader, politician, WKK media groups have been accusing India of wanting to give Kashmir away.


They dont do that quite brazenly...but in subtle installments..case in point frequent blog posts and opinion pages in yellow daily by a commie parivar-journalist known to be close to dynasty/current regime. His argument is that having decided to talk, MMS should talk and not dance around. Had MMS talked, he would have said why don't we settle for something on kashmir instead of just talking and wasting time..had MMS talked about settlement he would have said let us be generous and give our brothers something MORE...you get the drift...

The same goes for most WKK types...they are maximalist, but for strategic reasons are holding back...to preserve some shreds of credibility (outside BRF, here we KNOW )

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Dilbu » 18 Jul 2010 18:46

Just how many Pakistanis have to die before the world sits up and sees Pakistan as the worst victim of global terrorism? Is there a magic number — 20,000, nay 50,000?

4 zeroes are for kafirs. TFTAs should have 4x10=40 zeroes in that figure.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Dipanker » 18 Jul 2010 19:38



Suckers! The Americans never seem to learn.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby satyam » 18 Jul 2010 19:46

^^^^^
That is a part of kerry lugar bill.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby shravan » 18 Jul 2010 20:06

14 hurt in Sargodha blast

SARGODHA: At least 14 people have been wounded in a blast outside the Imambargha at Sharbat Chowk, SAMAA reported Sunday.

The blast occurred when the Maghrib prayer was being offered in the Imambargha.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby shiv » 18 Jul 2010 20:16

jrjrao wrote:This is from "Quatrina Hosain", a butt-ugly and enormous amount of make-up laden Paki TV host. BTW, what kind of name and spelling is that? Katherine-e-Quatrina perhaps?

Mumbai card has worn thin
http://tribune.com.pk/story/28493/mumba ... worn-thin/


This cow makes the following argument
The dialogue between Pakistan and India is being held hostage by a group of terrorists who have everything to gain if there is no thaw in relations. <snip> We think about terrorism every day. We live with it every day. And if New Delhi cannot understand that, then there is little hope of moving the peace process forward.


Yesterday I saw the following argument on Pakteahouse. I was going to respond but had no time to do that

Neither India nor Pakistan’s hawks understand that these terrorists cannot be controlled by anyone. I don’t think they are capable of understanding. It goes with a particular set of mindset. The Pakistani hawks might try to control them to use just against India but that is just a barbaric illusion. When India’s government comes over and bombastically says you are not dealing with the Mumbai situation to a Pakistani establishment that is trying to deal with it’s own hawks and under existential attack, do you think it will produce the desired result? Arresting, prosecuting and killing Hafiz Saeed is stirring a vile hornet’s nest. It requires careful deliberation at the best of times let alone when you have the cancer of extremism making inroads within the establishment.


Of course India is under no obligation to "understand" these Pakistanis' concerns - which are pure sophistry. I have responded in Pakteahouse.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby shiv » 18 Jul 2010 20:17


Like the nuclear deal offered to Pakistan which made Qureshi lock locks with Hillary and express full satisfaction?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby shiv » 18 Jul 2010 20:18

shravan wrote:14 hurt in Sargodha blast

SARGODHA: At least 14 people have been wounded in a blast outside the Imambargha at Sharbat Chowk, SAMAA reported Sunday.


Illiteracy in Pakistan ensures that people do not know the difference between Sundin and Fridin

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby CRamS » 18 Jul 2010 20:26

Madam Clinto has just landed at terrorist headquarters TSP and here is her agenda. There are about $500 million worth of goodies for th terrorists, but I doubt they would be happy given that they were demanding a ransom of $50 billion.

Also note from Hilary's agenda, no mention of LET, no mention of attacks on Indians in Afganisthan, and of course Mumbai was probably not even on the radar screen. I wonder if MMS spoke to Obama about keeping his end of the 26/11 bargain prior to Hilary's departure to the terrorist haven. After all Obama patted MMS on his back and said he is a "wise" leader that everyone in the world listens to. Watch for TSPians of all hues and cries whining about "resolving disputes with India", and I'd like to see how Hilary madam spins. Most likely it, will be the usual stuff.

It bears no repition, but not only do TSPians want to ignore 26/11 (after first denying they had anything to do with it), now they are out and open and barzen; pretty much declaring that yes, we did it, but f$%^&ck you, we are not going to didly squat about that "incident"; talk to us about finding a way to hand over Kashmir. Witn TSP so brazenly dissing that 26/11, I wonder what diplomatic dance will MMS do in face of such a colossal war crime by TSP and then telling India to f$%^ck off after all the dossiers, evidence etc.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby CRamS » 18 Jul 2010 20:30

Doc, tough to keep up with all the news, but where is PakistaniTeaHouse you mention above? Any link?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby shiv » 18 Jul 2010 20:39

CRamS wrote:Doc, tough to keep up with all the news, but where is PakistaniTeaHouse you mention above? Any link?


You will enjoy this. Control your temper, Please use your undeniable and sharp intelligence when you post.

The column on the right links entries that are hotly discussed.

http://pakteahouse.wordpress.com/

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby chaanakya » 18 Jul 2010 20:43

Blasting welcome to madam Clinton

One dead, 18 injured in Sargodha Imam Bargah blast

SARGODHA: One person was killed and 18 others injured in a blast that ripped through an Imam Bargah here in Sargodha block 19, Geo News reported on Sunday.

The injured, some of them severely, have been shifted to District Hospital Sargodha and announcements are being made to donate blood for the wounded. Emergency has been declared in city hospitals.

Rescue and relief activities have been kick-started at the site of the incident while heavy contingent of police arrived at the scene and cordoned off the area.

The blast occurred when preparations were being made for Namaz-e-Maghribain in the Imam Bargah located in a bustling market place.

Normally strict security is maintained at the Imam Bargah. But for reasons not known extraordinary security seemed not to have been put in place today.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby hnair » 18 Jul 2010 20:48

shiv wrote:
anupmisra wrote:18 Jul 2010, 0922 hrs IST
The plane was spotted by a Jawan on Sentry post no: 5.

I am glad some one was not asleep. Amazing when there's all that state-of-the-art teknalagy.


Could be a small observation type aircraft looking for gaps to facilitate infiltration.


Even if it was spotted simultaneously by our space based sensors and other shiny stuff, that chap is the most convenient way to explain to those idiots in Amirkhan's thinktanks.

IMO, the opinion "Pakistani ADE is highly integrated and much better than SDRE looking skyward through a rolledup newspaper" is affordable (and sustainable) stealth that stood the passage of time.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby chaanakya » 18 Jul 2010 20:49

Outcome of FM level talk reflects in paki's decision to deny India transit route to AFG.India to continue MFN status to purelanders


ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has denied India land transit route to Afghanistan while Trade Minister Amin Fahim has said that Afghanistan has been allowed to use land route to India for trade.

At the 7th round of talks for Afghanistan Pakistan Transit Trade Agreement (APTTA), the head of Pakistan delegation Himayatullah said the agreement has been reached.

He said under the agreement India cannot be allowed to use land route to Afghanistan and that India could only use air and see routes.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby sum » 18 Jul 2010 20:56

Could be a small observation type aircraft looking for gaps to facilitate infiltration.

Thats what even the local TimesNow reporter was mentioning since the area where the violation took place has seen the brunt of infiltration attempts all year long ( RS pura sector)

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby RamaY » 18 Jul 2010 21:31

amit wrote:Considering that this narrative has become a part of BRF as well, I hate to say it but the Pakis have been very successful. I'm sure they sell the same line to their Amir Khan masters.


Very clever! Anyone opposing a certain approach (WKK) is indirectly strengthening Paki side as they are dividing Indian opinion. Wahwah.... :roll:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby RamaY » 18 Jul 2010 21:35

amit wrote:But my point is this idea that one section of the GoI led by our dear PM is forever scheming to gift away Kashmir, water and just about everything under the sun to the Pakis and are being prevent by valiant efforts of a small section of desh bhakts doesn't add up. Especially when in the same breadth folks say the Rajmata is the final word on everything because the dear PM is a place holder; is a bumbling bureaucrat; vagera vagera.


Which part of this is not true?

Read MMS' statements, his actions/decisions, and his priorities and you will get this very picture.

Can MMS survive one minute against Rajamata's wishes?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby putnanja » 18 Jul 2010 21:44

So what is the harm if there are two camps within the government? Each minister in the CCS has their own beliefs on what is good for India and what isn't. Isn't that what is called having a good discussion? If everyone was to agree to everything, then things would have been a lot different. So what if there are moderates and hard-liners? It is there in every country and every government.

Wasn't there the famous spats between Rumsfield and Colin Powell? The two were barely on talking terms while serving Bush. Weren't there sharp differnces of opinions between Colin Powell, Rumsfield, Rice etc.? In fact, wasn't India more comfortable with Rice than Powell even when Rice was NSA?

I for one believe the ministers of CCS have different opinions on how to proceed with relations with Pakistan. They may largely fall into the moderates vs hard-liners categories that we in BRF subscribe to. Pakis know it and try to leverage it. The paki minister had made a remark before Thimpu too that the PM had no political support for peace process with pakistan. They are now upto the same tricks, but the GoI may not fall for it.

There were news reports that the NSA had met Sushma swaraj and Arun Jaitley before the EAM's trip. This was to keep the opposition in the loop too.

Frankly, I don't see any merit in the argument that there are no differences in the CCS or that there is no hard-liners vs moderates in the govt or congress. That will always be the case, when people like Pranab, Antony etc have much better idea of the past, and also the political implications. The vibrant discussions will ensure that there is no talk of sell-out, or things going out of control. One acts as a check on another ,and is necessary in a democracy.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby RamaY » 18 Jul 2010 21:54

I don't know. I can understand and agree with the point that multiple voices exist in a democratic setup. Then what is wrong with the perception that one side is viewed as liberal and other nationalistic?

Who can question MMS' liberal views after reading his statements (national resources, S-e-S, losing sleep, nuke deal, nuke-liability deal, bhopal issue, and so on)?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby ajit_tr » 18 Jul 2010 21:59

Pakistan: a client of more than one state
China has been Pakistan's firmest ally for 60 years – and it is to Beijing that Islamabad looks to counterbalance the influence of western largesse
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Mahendra » 18 Jul 2010 22:15

MOA!
Beijing doesn't realise that it is bound to contract venereal disease from its wh0re. No condom can last 60 years, especially with a highly contagious disease spreading wh0re like Pakbaristan.
AOA!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby menon s » 18 Jul 2010 22:38

i think we the citizens of India should come out and say to the entire world one thing.
A. We will not give up Kashmir. We will stand to the last man last bullet. but we will not give up Kashmir. no sovereign state will give up territory willingly. and any government that decides to re partition India, is committing suicide if it were to accede that.
B. We understand that there is a human tragedy in Kashmir, families divided across borders. we can alleviate their trouble, by talking with Pakistan.
we cannot do anything more anything less.
c. We will do that if Pakistan dismantles its jihadi tentacles.

i hope the lurkers on brf understand this.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Muppalla » 18 Jul 2010 22:41

First of all the whole discussion of MMS giving away Kashmir is at best a joke. He is not as powerful as Jawaharlal Nehru to give Kashmir to Pak as Nehru gave away the Cocoa Islands to Burma.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby CRamS » 18 Jul 2010 22:47

For me, USA's India TSP equal equal in the so called war on terror reached a nadir when after the parliament attack by Mush on 12/13, Al Quailin Adil Bin Ibn Paveel bahadur issued a statement saying that he deplored the attack on the Indian parliament and India and TSP as both allies of US should jointly fight terrorists instead of fighting each other. As much as that was a low point for India, I am sure it was Scotch and Katrina-Kaif Bollywood song & dance time at GHQ in Rawilpindi. But from such a high, it must be a tad depressing at GHQ this morning when Madam Clinton, does the equal equal again, but its TSP Afganisthan equal equal onlee. Ouch, what kick on Kiyani's unmentionables.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby satyam » 18 Jul 2010 22:53

One of the comments

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Ambar » 18 Jul 2010 22:59

Pakis are indeed lucky that they have perfected the begging bowl diplomacy to a T! They can shutdown their entire economy and still survive on the alms of 'Friends of Pakistan'! So for all the wanna be dictators out there,if you wanna rule a country and yet survive without a real economy,borrow a leaf out of Pakistan's ' Begging for Dummies' book!

Btw, whats with soosai bummers and less efficient results these days? Guess they have lost all their best players or are probably saving them for a rainy day.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby satyam » 18 Jul 2010 23:01

^^^^^

The fact is pakiz leader don't care for country.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby satyam » 18 Jul 2010 23:26

Diplomacy by dirty deeds

Zulfikar Ali Bhutto was famous for using four-letter words when he spoke to an Indian across a negotiating table. His daughter Benazir Bhutto's unparliamentary language when she talked of the then Prime Minister Narasimha Rao still rankles with Indian diplomats.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Diplomacy ... 74327.aspx


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