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Dilbu,

You have missed out on OHIO class boats and the Ford class carriers. + the Long bow apache & the M1A2. Unless these are dilivered ASAP to the ghazi army of Pakistan they will not be able to conduct the relief and rescue operations in the flood effected areas.

So humble requests to the US, please dilever or face the wrath of goat loving Jihadi army of Pakistan.
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One must pity the poor suffering ordinary innocent citizens of Pak for humanity's sake.As if their parasitical military,administrative and civilian leadership were disastrous enough,nature's fury had added woes to the country that might be the proverbial last straw that will break the back of the "camels" of Pak's "Camelot"! While his nation drowns,Pak's grandee "Zardar" imperiously visits the kingdom of Gt.Britain to survey his estate and to crown his (and his dear departed Bibi's) heir to the Bhutto legacy of populist Paki politics,the clown-prince "Bilawal-the-Brave" (and he must be brave or foolhardy indeed given the spectre of untimely death that has haunted his family),ready to take up sword and cudgel,sorry pen and calculator, to claim his legacy of loot and plunder in the drowning dream of Jinnah's Pakistan!

While the durbar in Britain-istan celebrates the arrival of Bilawal-the-Brave,at home their northern teritories awash with water,their people in panic,their cities powerless and ironically water starved too as a cruel joke of fate,the great swordsmen and warriors of the tribes martial,like peacocks outfitted in their dashing be-medalled uniforms, dash around like headless chickens medals all-a-clinking,breathing fire and thunder still at ancient enemy India,whilst bankruptcy stares them in the face thanks to their mismangement of the nation and its infrastructure,the looting by the "crore commanders".They parasitically squat forever in the corridors of power,and octupus-like spread their tentacles into every institution of the state,for plunder and pelf of Pak,yet are totally impotent to deal with the engulfing crisis that assails it on all fronts.

Jinnah's moth-eaten joke to history,bombed,blitzed,bullet-ridden,burnt and now soaked in blood and water,is ripe for the plucking-whatever flesh remains on the "fruit" ,by the un-godly species of Talibanus Extremist Islamisticus,who come in all shapes and sizes of beards,turbans and pyjamas,frothing at the mouth a ranting-and-a ready to wage jihad against all infidels.In fact their jihad started some time ago and has now even spread to Karachi in the Sindh,the supposed native land of the latest Bhutto Zardar! As each tribe in the fast disintegrating "nation" takes to battle for the sake of tribe, creed and greed,the divisions in the state widen with each dreadful hour.There is no great hero on the horizon who appears to be able to turn Pak around and the wheel of fate is firmly in the hands of the vulture Gen.Kill-Any to pull off a miracle or misadventure.The Temptation to blame India for all its woes remains the central compulsion of Pak. and with the orchestration of militancy and street violence in the valley,perhaps the outline of Vulture's strategy is apparent,especially after the revelations of the former Canadian ambassador who effectively described him by his vile deeds as a war criminal,deserving of incarceration in Camp Gitmo or any other secret concentration camp of the US,but better still on trial like "Brother #2" of the Pol Pot era and the Balkan baddies.India must press for this if only to discredit and disgrace the vile vulture whom certain sections in the west look upon as the Messiah of the Martial race of Pakis!
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Karachi toll rises to 63
Situation remained tense in the city for third day today, which paralysed normal life. Over 50 vehicles, furniture market, tea stalls and shops set on fire in last 36 hours. Sixty-three people have been shot dead and more than 150 wounded in the violent incidents.

Unknown persons torched over 10 trucks in Essa Nagri on Wednesday night. Dozens of stalls also set ablaze in Gulshan-e-Iqbal, Abul Hasan Isphani Road and Liaquatabad.
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Philip wrote:One must pity
SNIP.......
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Philip,

I agree with most your post above but I cannot have Pity for the pakistanies. They are getting what they deserve. Let the bhuttos / Zardaries and others rob them. Let Kiani rape them. But please dont pity them. What ever is happening is a result of a lack of piety of the denizens of that land.

The problems will be solved if they get more pious.
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Philip,
I think BRF should appoint you as its official Bard! :)
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PS: I have added the word "innocent".Yes,I do feel that there are still many poor ,"innocent", illiterate Pakis-who were once all Indians let us ever remember,whom by a cruel trick of fate in the form of that monstrous Djinn,Jinnah,deprived them of their Indian birthright-not all could escape due to circumstances, and forever consigned them to a fate worse than death,for that is what Pak has become.If Kashmir was described thus:"If there is a Paradise/Firdaus on earth..it is here,it is here...",
then "if there is a Hell/Jahannum on earth,it is Pak,it is Pak it is Pak.."
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Sir,

Let's agree to disagree on the innocent and poor pakis.

But I fully agree with thee on "if there is a Hell/Jahannum on earth,it is Pak,it is Pak it is Pak.."
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Blast in Peshawar

PESHAWAR: A blast occured at Diljam plaza near FC Chowk in the Sadar area of Peshawar.
One person has been killed, while several are being reported to be injured.
According to a report, a suicide bomber targeted an official vehicle.
Three vehicles including one passenger bus have been completely destroyed.
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Is it too late already?
According to Syed Saleem Shahzad, atonline.com’scorrespondent in Pakistan, several hundred students, members of the Islami Jamiat-i-Tulaba in Karachi, have left for Waziristan to join Al Qaeda training camps in Fata. If true, this is food for thought.
Yet another example of extremism came through an email I received in response to my write-up on Education and bigotry (July 14) from a person describing himself as a retired naval officer who does not wish to be named here.

He had this to say, “The most worrisome part of our current education system may perhaps be this. As member of the faculty at Pakistan Navy’s premier institute, over a period I observed (much to my horror), the upcoming generation of officers imbued with a fanatical desire to go to war with India. Not only that, these officers are intolerant in mundane academic discussions, some even feel elated when acts of violence take place against minorities. This then is the trend that seems to be gathering momentum….”
The above statement can explain the kargil & mumbai attack mentality of paki officers who have to conduct these kind of operations to prove their eunuchhood to other eunuch officers.
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http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Pakis ... mu/655585/
A Pakistani national, who was staying at a rented accommodation at Barnai on the outskirts of Jammu city for the last one week, was arrested along with his local contact by police today morning.

Identified as Wahid Alam, 25, of Karachai, he had entered India via Nepal, police said, adding that his local contact Monu of Jaswan in Kanachak area too has been arrested.

Giving details, sources said that Wahid and Monu were working for a Christian missionary organization in their respective contries. Duo had gone to Nepal to attend their three day conference beginning July 16.

Wahid, who had gone to Nepal via Karachi, did not return to his native country after the conclusion of the conference, but came to Siliguri along with Monu on July 20. From there, both came to Jammu where they hired a room at Barani to open their office.

Police have registered a case and started investigations.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/ISI-agent ... 81669.aspx
A man suspected to be an agent of Pakistan's spy agency ISI has been arrested with fake identification documents, including a PAN card, voter identity card and driving license, in this border district, police said on Tuesday. Razaullah, 24, had been staying in Ferozepur, about 275 km from the
state capital Chandigarh, for the last few months with a fake name, Rakesh Kumar, and running a herbal medicine company.

"Acting on a tip-off, we laid a trap and arrested Razaullah, who is an ISI agent from Pakistan on Monday," Sarabjit Singh, investigation officer of the case, said.
....
This is the third arrest of a Pakistani spy from this region in less than a month.

An alleged Pakistani spy, Nizam Baksh, was arrested July 22 from Ludhiana. Police recovered various hand-made maps and photographs of army and air force stations, installations, four mobile phones and many other crucial documents related to defence from him.

Another spy Kashif Ali was nabbed from Chandigarh last month. He had been living in the city for over two years in a rented accommodation in Sector 44 under a fake name, Pawan Kumar, police said.

His accomplices in Delhi and Chandigarh had helped him procure a voter identity card and PAN card.
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 254159.cms
Q. What face of Pakistan do you represent?

A: I represent that Pakistan which seeks peace and has called for a war on the war-mongers. Every day is a 26/11 in Pakistan, every city a Mumbai.
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Nawaz criticizes Zardari on his foreign jaunt
We have been let down very badly by Mr Zardari. We have been let down more by him than the statement by David Cameron,” Sharif told reporters.
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shravan wrote:Blast in Peshawar
According to a report, a suicide bomber targeted an official vehicle.
Three vehicles including one passenger bus have been completely destroyed.
FC Commandant Killed in the blast
Several Casualties reported
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A_Gupta wrote:A: I represent that Pakistan which seeks peace and has called for a war on the war-mongers. Every day is a 26/11 in Pakistan, every city a Mumbai.
This face is without any value. casue if he wanted to have peace and hed declared war on war mongers then he would be targetting the LET and JEM. But he is most emphatically not doing so.
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Pakistan in peril of succumbing to Iran-style Islamic revolution: Study
WASHINGTON: Pakistan is in peril of succumbing to an Iranian-style Islamic revolution, an official US study has warned, saying that mushrooming fundamentalism in the nation is finding support from the army and intelligence.

Pakistan slipping into an Iranian-style Islamic revolution is described as one of the biggest threat to the world, the Quadrennial Defence Review Independent Panel has told the US Congress in its final report submitted last week.
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With Friends Like Islamabad, Who Needs Enemies?
What do you call an ally that tries to kill you? That's the question most Americans are asking in the wake of last month's dissemination by Internet clearinghouse WikiLeaks of some 92,000 classified U.S. military documents relating to the war in Afghanistan
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^^
Pakis have posted pakistaniyat in the comments section. Brfites who can login to the site might want to take a look and set the records straight.
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Brad,nice post.

"Is it too late ...?" Perhaps it is,but it certainly is "almost" too late.The growing number of beardies in the PN,growing each year,indicates that the ranks of jehadi suicide bombers in uniform,for that is what they mentally are,is beginning to take over sane thinking of the previous generation.That is if you call the likes of Gen.Bandicoot,Mushy-the-rat,the villain of Kargil sane.These mentally deranged individuals in Paki uniform will be the future generals,admirals and air marshals of the Paki forces.We already know that thanks to the Canadian ambassador of the time in Kabul,that Gen.Kill-Any was planning suicide attacks on Indian consulates and targeting expats,which indicates his mental disposition-that of a psycopath.We can expect no sane thought from such an individual and will have to take a cosmic attitude towards Pak.Batten down hatches,limit as much intervisitation between Indians and Pakis-apart from the Kashmiris,as POK is ours,punish them with diplomatic slaps-in-the-face and simply ignore their rantings and ravings.Let them stew in their own juice,slaugther each other at will.

Had Kill-Any not been given a 3 yr. extension,we could've hoped that perhaps a new man would try a new approach before settling down into the classic mould.Kill-Any is cast in the Mush-a-rat mould,"stay on in power as long as you can and devise as many anti-Indian plots as possible".It consumes them,they become insomniacs,rabid vermin with a single goal-the destruction of India,who frankly have to be put down with the most extreme prejudice.Our aim should be to see that this is realised by the west and that they begin to take our key anti-western targets sitting right in GHQ and ISI HQ in the capital.

Meanwhile,"the Angel of Death" is coming-a-visiting to Af-Pak!

Angel of Death to wing over Afghanistan:
British and US forces fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan have unveiled a new weapon which is touted as the world's biggest flying artillery gun. The AC-130 Hercules aircraft, which can strike the enemy from 2,000 ft above, is nicknamed the 'Angel of Death' because of the shape that its anti-missile flares take when they are fired.
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This likely refers to internal donor fatigue. But external donors are fatigued also -- tired of donating crisis funds so that Kayani can turn around and buy Agostas or Saab AWACS like it happened around the time of the earthquake.

People not donating for relief work like the past
http://thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=254649
...many volunteers there noticed a cold-shoulder response to their calls this time as compared to the response they got for the assistance to the internally displaced persons (IDPs) due to military operations and the survivors of the 2005 earthquake in Hazara.
Meanwhile, Kayani makes a huge gesture of concern and admirable sacrifice:

Pak Army to contribute one-day salary to PM relief fund
http://thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=109719
“Furthermore, in the line with their tradition, soldiers of Pakistan Army feel proud in sharing their bread with the affected countrymen and have distributed over 520 tons of rations thus far,” COAS added.
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Pakistan: 5 killed as Islamic militants attack Christian church
Masked gunman killed 5 Christians outside their church in Sukkur, Pakistan. Five other members of the congregation were wounded in the July 15 attack. News of the killings have only now reached the Western world.

The Church of the Gospel, where the killings occurred, had received threatening letters from Islamic militants two months earlier. Members of the congregation asked for police to investigate the threats, but received no answer. When the attack took place, local police took 45 minutes to respond; the first ambulance arrived 45 minutes later. Members of the Christian minority believe that officials were fearful of intervening because of the threats from Islamic zealots.
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Pakistan sinking in debt
At the end of fiscal year (FY) 2009, the debt burden per person rose to Rs 53,172 from Rs 48,563, showing an increase of 9.5 percent. The total foreign and domestic debt and liabilities of the country have increased to $11.5 billion to $109.8 billion in FY10 as against $98.3 billion in FY09. The total foreign debt, after receiving International Monetary Fund (IMF) trench of $3.53 billion, reached at $55.1 billion.

The total domestic debt reached Rs 3.759 trillion at the end of March 2009, showing a net addition of Rs 541 billion in nine months of the current fiscal year. The domestic debt stood at 28.7 percent of GDP, which was 31.3 percent at the end of June 2008.

It is to be noted that the country will start repayment of debt to the IMF from February 2012. Pakistan has to pay $400 million per installment in three years.

The IMF emergency loan package of $7.6 billion sanctioned in November 2008 helped to solve the problem of balance of payment and increased foreign exchange reserves. Moreover, IMF enhanced the amount of loan to $11.3 billion in July 2009.

During the 10 months, July-April 2010, the government received $2.399 billion from external resources, including $428.900 million in Tokyo pledges, from international donors and other countries. Purpose-wise disbursement was: $873.846 million for different Developmental Projects, $569.420 million for Budgetary Support, $2.268 million for Afghan Relief and Reconstruction Authority (RRA), $152.150 million for Earthquake, $51.520 million for Internally Displaced Persons (IDPs) and $321.682 million received as Short term loan.

International Development Association (IDA) was on top of the aid giving agencies extended $527.730 million, of which $11.760 million were for Earthquake, $303.270 million for Budgetary Support/Programme Loans and $212.700 million for Developmental Projects.

The second top foreign assistance provider was Asian Development Bank (ADB), who gave $426.890 million, of which $63.880 million were for Earthquake, $159.570 million for Programme Loan and $203.440 million for Developmental Projects. The third on the list of donors was Islamic Development Bank (IDB), which extended $321.682 million as short-term credit to Pakistan. It also provided $101.96 million for Earthquake Reconstruction and Rehabilitation Authority, projects $62.480 million and $25.900 million under Tokyo Conference.

The US provided $241.180 million, $44 million for IDPs, $47.180 million for projects. Under Tokyo pledges the US provided $150 million. China gave $212.286 million, $30.010 million for ERRA and $181.276 million for projects. Saudi Arabia provided $200 million under Tokyo Conference. Japan extended loans amounted $105.970 million; $52.970 million for projects and $53 million under Tokyo Conference.

The IDA provided $101.960 million, $13.580 million for earthquake-hit areas, $62.480 million for projects and $25.900 million under Tokyo Conference promises. The UK provided $0.610 million for projects and $94.930 million under the other heads.

The amount provided by International Bank for Reconstruction and Development (IBRD) was $65.490 million, for earthquake $31.160 million, for project 34.330 million. The government of Germany supported Pakistan by giving $29.030 million, under ERRA $0.070 million, IDPs $7.520 million and $21.440 million for projects.

The contribution of International Fund for Agricultural Development (IFAD) was $26.350 million, which were as follows: earthquake $1.690 million and for projects $24.660 million. The World Food Programme provided $18.930. The EU provided $12.260 million for programme loans and budgetary support.

Canada gave $5.090 million to spend on projects. Norway has given $4.380 million. Australia provided $0.020 million, Korea $0.310 million, Kuwait $1.120 million, OPEC extended $0.810 million, Switzerland $0.050 million for Projects and UNHCR extended $2.268 million for Afghan RRA.

A high and persistent current account deficit implies greater financing requirement by the country that compelled the government to seek multilateral and bilateral sources for its financing requirement and thus leading to the stock of outstanding external debt. The EDL as percentage of GDP increased from 28.1 percent at the end of June 2008 to 30.2 percent by end of March 2009, showing an increase of 2.1 percent, which was the highest ever rise in a single year for almost one decade.

The big chunk of Pakistan’s outstanding external debt is classified as public and publicly guaranteed debt and accounts for 78.9 percent of the total outstanding EDL stock. Out of the remaining amount 8.4 percent debt is owed to the IMF, which was a 3.1 percent of total EDL mainly due to disbursement of the first two trenches of the Stand-by Arrangement. Private non-guaranteed debt contributes 6.6 percent to the stock of EDL and another 4.3 percent contribution came from foreign exchange liabilities.

However, the opposition criticised the president and said he should spend his time in the office for the betterment of the people and the country instead of seeking assistance from abroad.

During the period under review main problems were large twin deficit, fiscal and current account, high inflation, depreciation of rupee that increases the foreign debt burden to about 23 percent as well as cost of production by 25 percent. On the domestic front, government borrowing from SBP fuelled inflation and short-term domestic debt.
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Resentment is a powerful political weapon in this country. Most of the so-called anti-Americanism in Pakistan is a sideshow used to enable the mass to vent its anger, admittedly at an empire that has done more than most to patronise our elites and feed their megalomania. Criticism of the west, Jews, or Hindus has become the catch-all that enables the oppressed to forget how casually brutal we have become to one another.
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biswas wrote:
Kailash wrote:deleted by moderator
You did not just post a rupeenews article.
This says it all:
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http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... awar-ss-03

Chief of Frontier constabulary (is that something like DIG of Police for entire state in India?) meets his 72 along with his bodyguards ....latest from Pisshour

Geo TV calls it exclusive news...how can a blast that shakes half a city be exclusive beats me :lol:

Nuggets
The deceased, who also remained a Commandant of Police Academy for three years, played a significant role in maintenance of peace in Peshawar.
and how well he succeeded!
Senior Provincial Minister Bashir Bilour also reached the blast site and told the reporters that the blast was a suicide attack.
Damn quick and sharp, these Pakbarians...perhaps the head of the soosai found nearby may have given a faint clue...
He said the terrorists are going berserk because they have failed to achieve their goals.
If this is failure, then may we wish them lot of failures..

More nuggets from Nation:
The Bomb Disposal Squad, police and other law enforcement agencies approached the area before long and put a security cordon around the blast site.
What for bomb disposal squad, bum has gone off already what is needed is mortuary vans...at least this is monsoon season so they dont have to hose the site..
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Post blast, here's what the Information Minister had to say
Full of paki cliches. The one missing is "send more money".
‘nothing can scare us’
“This is a battle between good and evil,”
the terrorists’ network has been unraveled
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Suppiah wrote:
He said the terrorists are going berserk because they have failed to achieve their goals.
If this is failure, then may we wish them lot of failures..
What ever happens our H&D should stay intact. So the minister is telling RAPES what they want to hear. Blast happens they are losing blast does not happen we are winning. Keeps every one happy. In just 50 years Peshawar a city that produced likes of Raj Kapoor & Dilip Kumar is now producing filthy warriors for ROP.
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Brad Goodman wrote:Pakistan sinking in debt
The report details exactly how Pakistan is being kept afloat. Billions of dollars pouring in under one guise or another. Who, in Pakistan, cares about repayments ? They would plan to engineer another crisis and the debts would be cancelled or re-scheduled as it happened after 9/11.
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anupmisra wrote: Post blast, here's what the Information Minister had to say
Full of paki cliches. The one missing is "send more money".
Isnt this the guy that lost his son recently to ROP activists?
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Pratyush wrote:Sir,

Let's agree to disagree on the innocent and poor pakis.

But I fully agree with thee on "if there is a Hell/Jahannum on earth,it is Pak,it is Pak it is Pak.."
:rotfl: :rotfl:
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Gerard wrote:BBC Hardtalk is interviewing Fatima Bhutto.
She seems incapable of talking about Pakistan without bringing in India.
Is there a link? What was the topic?

No matter how intellectual they are. The thing that defines Pakistan as a nation is their feelings against India. For some it is pure hatred, for some anger, for some it is jealousy, for some it is the feeling of "why the heck they are succeeding where as we suck?". For long, the west had use for them in fighting Soviets and winning China while India snubbed the west and focused on building India. So they gave them too much attention they did not deserve. They thought that they are special and better than Indians. Now they see that we have reached escape velocity and moving so far ahead that they can't digest it. What went wrong?

The funny thing is when she needed to sell her books, she went to India, wore a saree with bindi, adored by NDTV and CNN/IBN. The people listened to her and greeted her. May be she can't get over India :lol:. May be she is thinking "Why was I born this side of the border instead of that side of the border?"
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A muddy and murky future
http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?pa ... 2010_pg3_4
The havoc caused by flooding is indeed awesome :-? and will cause another massive dent in the very fragile economy of Pakistan, but it can hardly be termed as a surprise.
Monsoon rains for the last three years at least had not been heavy and all indications were this year’s monsoon would be above normal.{Findings of Djinn Meteorological Dept.}
We all are very angered by the statement of the British prime minister while on a visit to India. We should not have been :(( as the statement and the various agreements that the PM signed were on the cards.
The western economies are somewhat dependent on India and people of Indian origin. Apart from the glamour of a huge market, China is no longer being considered as attractive as before. The contribution of the Indian diaspora to the economies of the US and Britain, particularly, cannot be ignored. If we in Pakistan are still in doubt about the future course and reckon that what the British PM said was unwarranted, wait until President Obama gets to India this October. We, unfortunately, have not been able to handle our strategic geographical location to emphasise our importance{What else is Pakistan trying to do for last 60 years} as we have been and continue to be very busy with the plundering of this state.
The writer is a fellow and former president of the Institute of Chartered Accounting for Goats Usage in Pakistan.
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didnt we hear some complaints about yeevil yindoos not sending enough water over?
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Suppiah wrote:didnt we hear some complaints about yeevil yindoos not sending enough water over?
Now they are going to blame us for causing the flood. And use it to justify the next Mumbai type raid.
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The video above is worth watching, if only to see how repulsive and revolting the Pakis are presenting themselves to be, when talking in smooth English to the Amrikees. No sane Amerikhan can sit through such an interview and leave with anything other than disgust for this Paki nutcase.

The interviewer is Mohammad Malick, who is the elitest of the elite, when it comes to Paki RAPE journos. In good Pakjabi accented angrezi, he spends the first 15 minutes of the program berating the poor interviewee about why the US does not share the same hate for India that the Pakis have.

BTW, this Malick is quite an accomplished character -- as in a thief. Like all good RAPES, he has been the beneficiary of raping his country -- see this interesting link:
Journalist Corruption Scandal – Mohammad Malick

The interviewee is the famous Prof. Walter Russel Mead of Yale (and Council on Foreign Relations).

Here is an nice blog entry by Prof. Mead about his current trip to Pakistan -- it is worth a read. In this blog, he indicates that he has also discovered for himself the joy of the Shrill Jalebi of NuttyNation:

Reporting From Pakistan

Note also the first response in the comment section of this blog entry, which will send every Paki into that outer orbit of an excited molecule:
Pakistan’s problem is that they have allowed themselves to become the new Afghanistan: an enemy regime harboring radical Islamist terrorists dedicated to attacking the US and its allies. They are also becoming, in US foreign policy terms, the new Iraq: an enemy of the US led by a regime whose domestic support depends on continuing to stir up both anti-Americanism and trouble for US allies in the region.

Pakistan is now just one atrocity away from becoming a popular target for the next American assault in the ‘Long War’, which could easily come to be perceived as ‘taking the gloves off’ and going after the enemy’s home base. Worse, the Pakistani government has created a situation in which they may not even be in control of whether this happens.

Over the medium term, the visibly abject failure of US ‘nation building’ efforts in backward Muslim countries is going to lead to a decline in interest in the US in investing in that direction. This will inevitably shift the emphasis of future military actions in the region towards basically punitive expeditions (the British term for which was ‘butcher and bolt’) which the US military is admirably well-equipped to deliver. Pakistan should (but probably won’t) be careful to avoid positioning itself as the most obvious and popular target for these attacks.

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Mead may have been an important personality but I cannot recal reading any of his articles. on my trolling the web or even BRF.
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Walter Mead's latest blog entry of August 2 summarizes what he has learnt so far in this Pakistan trip. He says Pakis have four main existential concerns today, and the first one is, yes you guessed correctly, INDIA:

The Roots of Pakistan’s Rage
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I’ve still got more people to meet and more to learn, but at this point — about halfway through the trip — four big issues stand out among the problems that Pakistanis describe in the relationship. It would take a whole book, and a lot more experience and knowledge than I have, to give a comprehensive picture of what Pakistanis think about the United States, and people have different ideas about how and why the US has done Pakistan wrong, but these four concerns come up over and over again.

India

First, the Pakistanis by and large do not trust American intentions toward India and this issue looms much, much larger here than in the United States. Americans often do not realize just what a huge place India occupies in the Pakistani mind...
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In addition to dividing the country between Hindu and Muslim majority districts, the British also allowed the rulers of the “princely states” to choose whether to join India or Pakistan; Kashmir’s ruler opted for India under controversial circumstances as Pakistani forces sought to bring the Muslim-majority state into Pakistan. India won the subsequent war, and continues to hold most of the old princely state. The conflict in Kashmir remains bitter to this day...

In subsequent years, life in both countries, but especially in Pakistan, was dominated by the consequences of Partition. Settling refugees, periodic wars, the running sore of Kashmir: all keep the memories alive. Almost everything in Pakistan’s history revolves around the unequal struggle with India — a struggle that became even more challenging after what is now Bangladesh broke away from Pakistan, with India’s help, in 1971. Pakistan’s nuclear weapons program is seen here as a triumph against the odds, and the nuclear arsenal is seen as the country’s last-ditch ace in the hole (in much the same way Israelis see their deterrent). Most Pakistanis are completely convinced that India is ceaselessly plotting Pakistan’s destruction and everything in Pakistani foreign policy boils down to a simple calculation about who is winning the zero-sum contest between these two states.

Since 1989 one of the biggest changes in American foreign policy has been the slow shift towards a strategic partnership with India. From an American perspective, the rise of India towards superpower status is one of the best things happening in the world today. The rise of India means that China’s rise is likely to be peaceful; sharing Asia with India and Japan means that China is that much less likely to try to dominate Asia in the way that Japan once did. A peaceful China balanced by powerful neighbors is exactly what the United States hopes to see.

The burgeoning US-India relationship frightens and horrifies Pakistan. Trade is booming; the Indian diaspora in the United States is becoming steadily more visible and influential. The US takes India’s side in major controversies — blaming Pakistan for terrorism in Kashmir and India while doing nothing about India’s actions in Kashmir. Worst of all, the US is helping India gain access to nuclear materials and nuclear technologies while continuing to block Pakistan’s attempts in the field.

The struggle with India is central, many Pakistanis feel, to Pakistan’s security and even to its existence. The United States is systematically and increasingly siding with India. What kind of an ally is this? Pakistan asks. The United States is working to help India become a global power; what does this mean for Pakistan?

India is the first major issue driving the US and Pakistan apart; Americans should not underestimate its importance. India is an all consuming obsession for many people here, and the presence of a larger, rapidly growing and richer neighbor just 18 miles from Lahore is something that many Pakistanis can never forget. The perception that America is betraying its old and faithful Pakistani ally to benefit from India’s rise echoes and re-echoes through Pakistani culture and politics. It unites the military and those in the religious community who hate and fear Hinduism even as it alienates many patriotic Pakistanis who have no religious ax to grind.
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The Roots of Pakistan’s Rage

The comments posted in response to this blog are also worth reading...
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