Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 2010

[abhijitm]

what the hell is this? Toy Bomb!
3 children injured in toy bomb blast

Does this mean piggies are now making bomb toys to train their kids for soosai mission? Looks like this is now their most popular extracurricular activity.

[ramana]

"jrjrao"

Pak Army always aligns with Islam and Pakistan
http://pakobserver.net/detailnews.asp?id=45906

The GHQ assigned a tactical number 786 to itself which is displayed on all military vehicles and signposts which is numerological equivalent to Bismillah.

The number 786, the numerical equivalent of ‘Bismillah-ur-Rahman-ur-Rahim’ (In the Name of Allah, the Merciful and the Benificent) was prominently displayed on Army buildings, gates and vehicles, as Shuja Nawaz recalls in his book, "Crossed Swords".

Similarly, during the 1965 war, Pakistan Navy decided to bombard the decrepit and non-strategic town of Dwarka on the Gujarat coast since it was associated with the Hindu mythology of Mahabharat and the operation was therefore aptly code-named “Operation Somnath” symbolizing the dozens of times the marauder Ghazni pillaged the nearby and the famous Somnath temple again in Gujarat. The Army’s invasion in the same war was code-named ‘Operation Gibraltar’, referring to the Rock of Gibraltar which was named as ‘Jebel al Tariq’ by the Muslim invader Tariq bin Ziad. Similarly, the various units of the invading guerilla army forces in 1965 were named as Tariq, Ghaznavi, Salahuddin, Qasim and Khalid, all thus named after Muslim war heroes.

There are many such instances, missile names, for example.

Not to mention the Kargil perfidy in 1999, was code named Operation Badr referring to the Battle of Badr in the Koran.

[Lalmohan]

Lifafa Journalism explained

Friendly journalists

The ties between the military and the media are strong.

The military often use the media to protect its hold on the giant corporate empire which it has built.

In the 1980s the military did this through open censorship. Since the 1990s it has evolved subtler ways.

It controls almost all access to big stories, and has therefore been able to raise a corps of "friendly" journalists who now control most key jobs in Pakistani media due to their "contacts".

President Zardari's supporters suggest the media could have made up the story of the ISI cancelling its trip to the UK in order to spark an anti-Zardari campaign, which intensified as the scale of the flood damage became clear.

[shravan]

what the hell is this? Toy Bomb!
3 children injured in toy bomb blast

In Flood Water

[Dilbu]

Two pages already!
TSP thread meets its 72 faster than a LeT area commander in J&K.

[pgbhat]

Lifafa Journalism explained

beeb reporting this?

[Lalmohan]

^^^ the beeb allows pak based writers to write at will, this is what they are saying... perhaps all preparing themselves for kanadian vija?

[ramana]

The Telegraph:

UN declares Pak floods worst in UN's History

Although the current 1,600 death toll in Pakistan represents a tiny fraction of the estimated 610,000 people killed in the three previous events, some two million more people - 13.8 million – have suffered losses requiring long or short-term help.

Maurizio Giuliano, a spokesman for the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) said: "This disaster is worse than the tsunami, the 2005 Pakistan earthquake"

The comparison illustrates the scale of the crisis facing Pakistan as its inefficient and corrupt bureaucracy battles to mitigate the effects of the flooding.

The disaster zone stretches from the Swat Valley in the north, where 600,000 people are in need of help, to Sindh in the south.

Billions of pounds will be needed to rebuild affected areas but western nations have pledged only tens of millions in aid. Radical Islamic groups are jockeying to fill the vacuum left by government incompetence and relative international indifference.

Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa, formerly North-West Frontier Province and scene of a bloody Taliban insurgency, has been devasted by swollen rivers. The steel girder bridge over the Khyali River in Charsadda which built by the British at the height of the Raj is a jagged stump. It was a vital gateway to the region and its loss has hampered the aid effort.

"There are people here who are 80 and who will tell you that they have seen nothing like it in their lives," said Arif Jabbar Khan, leading the Oxfam team in the town. "This was a productive agricultural area with a big middle class who have now lost everything. The effect of that will be enormously destabilizing. There was a riot in town as people demanded food."

Beneath it, the brown waters of the swollen Khyali, three times its normal width, thundered southward over what had been homes and farms.

The problems here are being replicated across Pakistan. Of the population of 1.7 million, some one million have been made destitute by the flooding. The government has managed to distribute 10,000 food packs in the 10 days since the disaster. They will feed just 80,000 people.

Flood victims stand around homeless, aimless, their clothes covered in sticky red mud. The river thunders on, oblivious.

"The reaction in the west to this crisis has been lukewarm so far," said Mr Khan. "The governments there need to understand what is going on." Meanwhile Mr Khan must get on with the basics, pouring chlorine into wells to prevent the spread of e-coli and cholera, and organizing payments to families so that they can buy food in Charsadda's still-functioning market.

The nearby city of Peshawar relies on the area for much of its food, and prices are now rocketing in the markets there – as they are along the length of Pakistan.

Still more people were dying yesterday in Pakistan's remote mountainous northern provinces, swept away in the torrent or buried in landslides.

The government in Islamabad has admitted that cannot cope with such a catastrophe, but the international response has been lukewarm.

Yousuf Raza Gilani, Pakistan's prime minister, left to deal with the crisis while his president, Asif Ali Zardari, toured Britain and France, said the floods would set Pakistan back years.

Jean-Maurice Ripert, the United Nations special envoy for the disaster, said the scale of funding for Pakistan's recovery could only escalate. He said: "The emergency phase will require hundreds of millions of dollars and the recovery and reconstruction part will require billions of dollars."

Angry survivors have attacked government officials in flood-hit areas. The government's fear of a backlash is believed to be behind the blocking of two independent TV channels, Geo and Ary, which have been critical of President Asif Ali Zardari for going ahead with a European tour as large parts of his country suffered inundation.

I guess that means since 1945. About 13M people affected.
- How many folks get impacted by the annual Bangla Desh cyclones?
- And wont the lack of releif reflect pporly on the governors?
- Will this undermine the guards? I see the ulema is rapidly taking control of relief efforts.
- Shouldnt someone poitn out that Gilani was feasting on kababs cooked by Adnan Sami's wife and dreaming about Lata Mangeshkar, while his boss was on trip to London and NWFP was flooding?

Can someone draw a good carton capturing these three events?

[svinayak]

Angry survivors have attacked government officials in flood-hit areas. The government's fear of a backlash is believed to be behind the blocking of two independent TV channels, Geo and Ary, which have been critical of President Asif Ali Zardari for going ahead with a European tour as large parts of his country suffered inundation.

I guess that means since 1945. About 13M people affected.
- How many folks get impacted by the annual Bangla Desh cyclones?
- And wont the lack of releif reflect pporly on the governors?
- Will this undermine the guards? I see the ulema is rapidly taking control of relief efforts.
- Shouldnt someone poitn out that Gilani was feasting on kababs cooked by Adnan Sami's wife and dreaming about Lata Mangeshkar, while his boss was on trip to London and NWFP was flooding?

Can someone draw a good carton capturing these three events?

Why cant they block the military purchases and make sure the military grants to fight "terror" are diverted for disaster relief.

[Prem]

1700 dead so far in Pak floods, fresh showers add to trouble
Who Pressed the Flush Button Down on ATM's own Toilet ?
http://news.rediff.com/interview/2010/a ... 0-dead.htm

Over 700 villages were flooded as water levels of 1,128,000 cusecs and 1,115,300 cusecs were recorded at the Guddu Barrage and Sukkur Barrage respectively as authorities struggled to cope with the impact of the worst deluge in 80 years.The protective bunds at Bachal Shah Mayani and Torhi near Sukkur in northern Sindh were breached and several other barrages and embankments were at risk.Officials said they expected the situation to worsen as heavy rains are forecast to continue in Sindh for the next three days.With more deaths reported from Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa and Gilgit-Baltistan, the death toll has risen to nearly 1,700. Tens of thousands of people in Sindh were fleeing the floods but some people resisted evacuation, as they feared their homes would be looted."While comprehensive estimates are not yet available, it is certain that hundreds of thousands, if not millions, are being affected in this province," said Dennis Bruhn, a UN disaster management expert in Sindh.Rivers in other parts of Pakistan too continued to be in spate.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/10/world ... .html?_r=1
More Monsoon Rains in Flood-Ravaged Pakistan

[Brad Goodman]

Pakistanis Flee Punjab City as Nation's Worst Floods Hit 12 Million People

The flooding has become “Pakistan’s worst national disaster,” Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said in a televised speech in the nearby city of Multan. On a tour of Sindh and Punjab, the country’s most populous provinces and its biggest agricultural zone, Gilani told reporters that the destruction of roads, bridges and towns has set Pakistan’s economic development back by years.

AOA. Mother nature and Djiin have helped pakis move closer to utopia of 7th century. They should be tanking Allah for his infinite help to fulfill the paki dream.

[Kamboja]

The number of people suffering from the massive floods in Pakistan could exceed the combined total in three recent megadisasters — the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami, the 2005 Kashmir earthquake and the 2010 Haiti earthquake— the United Nations said Monday.

Thus proving once again that anything SDRE India can do, TFTA Pacquistan can do... better? Truly 1 TFTA == 10 SDREs.

On a separate but equally delicious note of irony: Have the Pacquis not been crying for water for months now? Allah has simply granted the wishes of his people.

I know, I know, I'm going to be reincarnated as a particularly alluring she-goat in Khyber Pakhtunkwa for my schadenfreude in the face of such human misery...

[ramana]

So the 2005 quake devasted POK. The 2010 floods are devastating NWFP, parts of Sindh and South Punjab. The core lands of Lahore are still unaffected except with the Wahabandi pestilence. Any good maps?

[r_subramanian]

The excuses are ready for the next tranche from IMF!
^Continuing on from what was posted by Kamboja
I am not sure how well-resourced UN agencies in Pakistan are to make a realistic assessment of the extent of damage done by the floods. The claim being made that 'the number of people suffering from the massive floods in Pakistan could exceed the combined total in three recent megadisasters - the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami, the 2005 Kashmir earthquake and the 2010 Haiti earthquake' would be exploited by Pak government to wriggle out (yet again) of the commitments made to IMF on deficit reduction and the introduction of VAT. When will the idiots at IMF learn not to throw good money after bad?

Pakistan flood crisis bigger than tsunami, Haiti: UN
The number of people suffering from the massive floods in Pakistan could exceed the combined total in three recent megadisasters - the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami, the 2005 Kashmir earthquake and the 2010 Haiti earthquake - the United Nations said Monday.
The death toll in each of those three disasters was much higher than the 1,500 people killed so far in the floods that first hit Pakistan two weeks ago. But the Pakistani government estimates that over 13 million people have been affected - two million more than the other disasters combined.
The comparison helps frame the scale of the crisis ...

link

[KrishG]

^^^

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Natura ... p?id=44986

[BijuShet]

Not sure if this is OT here but will post anyways:
From "The News" : Pakistan’s Irfan signed by Kolkata Knight Riders

Updated at: 2200 PST, Monday, August 09, 2010
LAHORE: Pakistan’s tall fast bowler Mohammad Irfan has signed a one-year contract with Kolkata Knight Riders for playing Indian Premier League.

Talking with media here today at the National Cricket Academy, Irfan said that after the trials were held for including new players in Kolkata Knight Riders, he was offered a contract which he has accepted.

Mohammad Irfan said he desires to play for his country and hopes he would soon achieve his goal.

I was under the impression that TSPCB players were denied permission to play in the IPL after none of the TSP players were bought at the IPL auction. Did TSPCB change its policy or were those empty threats? and what is with KKR and its facination with TFTA TSP players?

[svinayak]

Pakistanis Flee Punjab City as Nation's Worst Floods Hit 12 Million People

Pakistan’s Indus River and its tributaries flooded a city and surrounding farmlands in southern Punjab province, adding to 12 million people affected by the worst monsoon floods in the country’s history.

When was the last time there was water dispute and allegation of India stealing water.

[Kamboja]

When was the last time there was water dispute and allegation of India stealing water.

But but of course there is still a water dispute! This time India is resorting to 'water terrorism' and deliberately releasing enormous amounts of water stored up over many decades in 1001 dams built in Kashmir (made out of the bones of 150,000 Kashmiri Muslim children) in clear violation of IWT!!

When you wear green-tinted glasses...

[BijuShet]

From "The News", a column by the father of TSP's atom bomb. (Looks like the grasslands promised by ZAB in liu of the atom bomb is drying and turning TSP into a desert). Photochor is throwing in the towel.

Strive or perish

Random thoughts - Monday, August 09, 2010 - Dr A Q Khan

About 80 years ago, two Urdu journals were launched, Humayun and Nigar. Both became famous because of their high standards. Nigar was launched by Niaz Fatehpuri (real name Niaz Mohammad Khan) from my beautiful city of Bhopal, where he was the royal librarian. Humayun was published from Lahore by Mian Bashir, who was the son of Mr Justice Shah Din Humayun, hence the name. Justice Humayun was a good poet who was eulogised by Allama Iqbal in Bang-e-Dara.

Unfortunately, Mian Bashir became overconfident and boasted that Humayun would never go off the market, all the while forgetting that wealth cannot buy everything. After a few years it went off the market. Niaz Fatehpuri was very committed and vowed to keep Nigar going even if he had to write and produce it himself. It is still being published, even today.

Humayun used to carry the following verse on its title page:

Uttho, wagarna hashr nahin hoga phir kabhi

Dauro, zamana chaal qayamat ki chal-gaya

The verse is still applicable to this poor nation. The world has moved forward, while, in the age of technology, we are still living in the Middle Ages in many areas of life. Worse, we are totally oblivious to this miserable and dangerous situation. Had the educated section of our society been sensitive to, and conscious of, the problem, and had the ruling class been really patriotic, then there would have been a possibility of some progress. The general public would then have extended their support. Unfortunately, there is a paucity of sincerity in all three sections of society–i.e., the general public, the well-educated and those in power. Their every action is based on personal interests. If by chance some positive steps are taken with all sincerity, lack of long-term commitment, efficiency and expertise ensures its failure. Opposition parties create a hue and cry for personal interests, not for public interest. It is really not so difficult to determine the causes of our present-day problems and to find solutions thereto. Dishonesty and maladministration are the main causes and eradication of both of these would go a long way in getting rid of the prevailing situation. Using public money for personal or political purposes or for bribing others is common. Negligence in the performance of one’s duty efficiently and properly amounts to maladministration. If society could be rid of these two menaces, we would be rid of many social curses.

In order to rid ourselves of these curses, a very strong, neutral system of accountability is needed. It should not be put in place as eyewash, to cheat the public, but as an effective system with honest and impeccable officers answerable to the public and to the judiciary and, most of all, their own conscience and to Almighty Allah. As far as government performance is concerned, these are solely the responsibility of the president, the prime minister, ministers, administrators, etc. Let us not forget the saying of Hazrat Umar (RA): “If a dog dies of hunger or thirst on the banks of the Euphrates in Baghdad, I will be held accountable by Almighty Allah.”

Our rulers are not the only ones to enjoy life at the cost of public money and to be least bothered about doing so. Unfortunately, there is a tendency in our country that when a government servant or officer does something wrong, his seniors immediately spring to his defence, and all his wrongdoing, both past and present, are immediately wiped away. No inquiry is made, no case filed in court, and if any action is taken for public consumption, it is dragged on for so long that people lose interest and forget all about it. Unfortunately, the courts do not dispose of such cases quickly and the cases drag on for years for one reason or another. We have recently seen scores of such cases against members of the ruling class, who now claim to be as innocent as newborn babes. Ultimately we see only small offenders being punished while larger wrongdoings go scot-free in this Land of the Pure.

We have recently seen many cases of forged educational degrees. The attitude taken by many of our leaders is disgraceful. One chief minister does not see any difference between a forged and a genuine degree while another of our rulers ridicules the Quaid-e-Azam as a non-graduate, thereby totally ignoring his credentials as a barrister-at-law and the subcontinent’s most able and famous lawyer. Woe betide the ignorant!

We have before us many examples of countries that have made spectacular progress and how they have managed to achieve it. It is simply due to honesty, sincerity and hard work by both their rulers and their public. Useless, unnecessary expenditures were curtailed, the import of luxury items was banned, new industries were set up and agricultural yields enhanced. We can definitely do the same. Restricting the import of luxury items alone would save the exchequer billions of dollars. Examples that immediately spring to mind are cosmetics, food and mobile phones. Unfortunately, the importers and the rulers are hand-in-glove in this matter, all the while minting money. Slowly but surely, the country is going down the drain or, as the saying goes, it is going to the dogs. Meanwhile, there is no worry to be seen on the faces of our rulers.

In all developed countries the law is the same for everyone, but here, in this Land of the Pure, it is not so. If you are influential and have money, you can get away with anything. Only the poor rot in jail and often die without getting justice. The rich can borrow billions from banks and then have it written off, while the poor, with a loan of a few hundred thousand rupees, are forced to see their lands or homes auctioned for less than the properties are worth. All this goes on openly, before our very eyes.

Here I would like to tell a story attributed to Shaikh Saadi (RA) that has direct relevance to this column. Once, on his way to Mecca, he fell asleep while passing through a dangerous desert region. A camel rider passed by and hit him on the head with his stick. The camel driver reprimanded him for wanting to die as even the sound of the departing bugle had not woken him up. Furthermore, he said, he himself also longed to go to sleep, but the dangerous desert did not permit that luxury, because if a traveller slept on after the sound of the bugle, the caravan left without him and he would be lost forever and die of hunger and thirst.

When lazy people realise the situation we are in, it is already too late and the world at large has moved on. Only those who wake up in time are able to move on. When the caravan has left, those remaining behind will always stay behind and may not reach their destination at all. This applies to our country and our nation. We have managed to stray so far behind the main caravan that it now seems impossible to catch up since, with whatever little progress we make, they will have moved even further away. Nothing short of a redeemer–a miracle–will help us now.

[Prem]

From "The News", a column by the father of TSP's atom bomb. (Looks like the grasslands promised by ZAB in liu of the atom bomb is drying and turning TSP into a desert). Photochor is throwing in the towel.Strive or perish

Random thoughts - Monday, August 09, 2010 - Dr A Q Khan
When lazy people realise the situation we are in, it is already too late and the world at large has moved on. Only those who wake up in time are able to move on. When the caravan has left, those remaining behind will always stay behind and may not reach their destination at all. This applies to our country and our nation. We have managed to stray so far behind the main caravan that it now seems impossible to catch up since, with whatever little progress we make, they will have moved even further away. Nothing short of a redeemer–a miracle–will help us now.

In Pre_47 Punjab, even a Gora sahib with simple glance was able to recognize and make correct distinction between "khet" owned by Muslaman or Kaffir. Gora man knew that Lazy Punjabi Muslaman living on Khum or Zakat will not get up in the early morning and water his field or clear it from the weed etc. The half dying crop was the perfect measure of ethical, moral,mental and spirtual values and strength of such community. Paki inherted and imbibe full L&B vultural legacy as it is commonly known among Kuffar.

[ramana]

So even he is sounding like a whiner. And he also blames someone else!

[RajeshA]

because if a traveller slept on after the sound of the bugle, the caravan left without him and he would be lost forever and die of hunger and thirst.

The Prophet AQK knows how Pakistan will die - of hunger and thirst!

[Prem]

="BijuShet"]

because if a traveller slept on after the sound of the bugle, the caravan left without him and he would be lost forever and die of hunger and thirst.

The Prophet AQK knows how Pakistan will die - of hunger and thirst!

With all the floodding , the ghass this year will be much tasty and greeener but Allah's wrath on all those kaffirs who walk on this Holy Islamic color with shoes or eat it without doing proper halal invocaion. This is a test for the Paaki Islamiat , are they gonna keep insulting Allah's green color in grass or on ground.
Poaklurkers, the clouds bringing rain are blue coored like Indic gods and grass is Islamist green, this is the real sign of kiyamat and end of Poakland.

[RamaY]

In Pre_47 Punjab, even a Gora sahib with simple glance was able to recognize and make correct distinction between "khet" owned by Muslaman or Kaffir. Gora man knew that Lazy Punjabi Muslaman living on Khum or Zakat will not get up in the early morning and water his field or clear it from the weed etc. The half dying crop was the perfect measure of ethical, moral,mental and spirtual values and strength of such community. Paki inherted and imbibe full L&B vultural legacy as it is commonly known among Kuffar.

Well you cannot blame them. They prophet told them that they have the first claim on world resources including neighbors hard work.... Our own PM-sahib tells our home-grown TFTAs that they have the first claim on national resources. When a father tells some of his children such things, he cannot blame them when they grow up lazy and pampered ba*tards.

[Carl_T]

LAHORE: Pakistan’s tall fast bowler Mohammad Irfan has signed a one-year contract with Kolkata Knight Riders for playing Indian Premier League.

Talking with media here today at the National Cricket Academy, Irfan said that after the trials were held for including new players in Kolkata Knight Riders, he was offered a contract which he has accepted.

Wow he actually exists. This guy was actually only discovered a few years back when someone referred him to Aaqib Javed in this interview below. He was supposed to be some sort of urban legend in Pakistan.

PakPassion.Net: I'd like to tell you about an urban legend of our own. Earlier we spoke about Nadeem Iqbal's academy (in part 1) but are you aware that Nadeem claims to have a 7'2 fast bowler who bowls in the mid-80mph range? His name is Mohammad Irfan.

Aaqib Javed: No, I havent heard of him. If he's that good then he should be in the Multan regional academy.


PakPassion.Net: Nadeem says that Irfan also has a job and isn't able to dedicate much time to cricket because of it. If i give you Nadeem Iqbal's number then can you call him and discuss the possibility of taking a look at Mohammad Irfan?

Aaqib Javed: Ok, give me his number. I'll check him out and find out more about him. (Aaqib takes the number and Mo Irfan's details!!)

http://www.pakpassion.net/articles/Aaqi ... A_part_two

[Prasad]

I know it is old stuff but had to post this....

Why not Pakistani sea

There is a nice little river running thru Chennai which we can name after Pukeistan...as a confidence building measure...

Turn of the century Cooum was a fine river and was perfectly usable! Can't say that about the pukis.

[Mahendra]

Uh! Oh! this phearsome Phast bowler of Yeti proportions news item from ultra credible Bak-Bassion net

[Prem]

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8ec3998c-a3b7 ... abdc0.html
A stable Pakistan is key to defeating terrorism
By Assof Ali Zardari
There is a very specific reason. Pakistan’s sacrifices must be told to the world. For historical and cultural reasons, London is vital for generating global political and humanitarian awareness
In the war against extremism and terrorism, we have played the role of a frontline state, losing 2,700 soldiers, including senior officers, and more than 27,000 civilians. Collateral losses total more than $50bn and are still being incurred at the expense of our economy and prestige. No one can match our determination, resilience and sacrifices. We do not need to be lectured as to how to conduct the war against violent extremism. ( De de de de Terroism ke naam pe de de,Deposit directly in Swiss a/c)
Terrorism is not just Pakistan’s problem. The Kabul conference last month acknowledged that the problem in Afghanistan was regional and needed a regional solution. Stability in central and south Asia will depend on regional and international co-operation to attack the terrorist threat politically, economically and militarily.

[Prem]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picture ... oding.html

Pictures are Another proof of Paki being TFTA Sons of Arab Qasim. Here Poakland shift to South Pacific to avoid Kuffar South Asia.

[Prem]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and- ... rror-list/
A Jihadist Is Promoted
by Bruce Riedel

Mohammad Ilyas Kashmiri, already on both India and Pakistan’s most-wanted lists, has just been given a special U.S. terror designation. Bruce Riedel on his evolution from Pakistani hero to al Qaeda commander
A Pakistani born in Kashmir on Feb. 10, 1964, Kashmiri began his career fighting with the mujahideen in Afghanistan against the Soviets, losing an eye and a finger in combat. He was trained by the Pakistani intelligence service, the Inter-Services Intelligence directorate, and after the Soviets were defeated he went on to fight in his native Kashmir against the Indian army. Some say he received special training with Pakistan’s elite Special Services Group, its top commandoes. He carried out many successful missions in Kashmir and even in New Delhi, where he took Western hostages. Captured by the Indians once, he escaped and famously brought home the severed head of an Indian officer in 2000. The Pakistani army and President Pervez Musharraf treated him like a hero.
Then Kashmiri turned on them and joined al Qaeda in 2002, helping to train Afghan Taliban fighters to attack Americans and NATO troops in Afghanistan, and then attacking his former ISI handlers and the army. He has been linked to the assassination of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto by the U.N. and to plots to kill Musharraf, earning him a spot on Pakistan’s most-wanted list.Kashmiri is now most famous for his connection to David Headley, the American who was the master spy behind the November 2008 attack on the city of Mumbai that killed and wounded hundreds. The Mumbai attack was the work of a close al Qaeda ally, Lashkar-e-Taiba, or LeT. Headley has pleaded guilty to traveling five times to Mumbai over three years before 2008 to help plot the attack and is serving a life term. ( No Mention of serving Poak Toads in Poakarmy)
After Mumbai, LeT and al Qaeda sent Kashmiri to Denmark. His new task was to do a surveillance of the offices of a Danish newspaper that published cartoons mocking the prophet Muhammad. The cartoons had aroused a storm of anger in the Islamic world, where depictions of the prophet in any form are rare but ones making fun of him are scandalous. Al Qaeda has promised to make Denmark pay and has already attacked the Danish embassy in Pakistan. Headley made at least two trips to Denmark and surveilled the newspaper’s offices in Copenhagen. He even got inside the offices using a travel-agent cover.
The American reported back to al Qaeda in Pakistan, meeting now in Waziristan with Kashmiri, his new handler. Kashmiri told him the “elders” of al Qaeda were very interested in the Copenhagen project and that an al Qaeda suicide cell was already in Europe ready to conduct the operation once Headley collected all the necessary intelligence. They would do a mini-Mumbai, seizing the offices and then beheading all the employees and fighting it out to death with Danish security forces. Headley had a meeting with the al Qaeda team in Europe, according to his guilty plea last March.

[Sadler]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38621584/ns/weather
Pakistan floods a megadisaster of epic proportions

The comments are hilarious Some choice snippets pasted below.

Don't see them waving many "Death to the US" now.
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@whodat...yeah, maybe Allah's pissed because they only blew up 3 schools last month....

In all seriousness, the main prediction of climate change was an extreme change in rainfall patterns...you're seeing this here, you're seeing it in the mudslides in China this morning...the soil types in these climates do not get extreme downpours such as these, the soil and buildings can't handle it. Then you have the other extreme in the Mediterranean and southeast Australia, they are in such severe droughts they are literally abandoning towns...Sicily has been bringing water in by ocean tanker for over a year....
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But you see, news like this doesnt sell anymore...all the average American seems to gravitate towards now days are Britney Spears upskirt shots and polarizing issues like birth control and immigration that will never be resolved, but you put two people on tv screaming about something on Sean Hannity and you have half the country watching, bobbing their heads in agreement.
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We give them billions every year and what do they do with it? They use the money to add additional troops facing India. Do they fight the Talib? Not very much... mostly for show. In the non Islamic part of India hundreds of millions have been lifted out of poverty and in Islamic Pakistan most are in grinding poverty. Sixty years ago this was one country. Now look at the difference. They are kept back by their religion, and a 7Th century mindset of "tradition". Same goes for Afghanistan. What little money they have goes to Madrases. Their only talent is killing the weak.
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But you see, news like this doesnt sell anymore...all the average American seems to gravitate towards now days are Britney Spears upskirt shots and polarizing issues like birth control and immigration that will never be resolved, but you put two people on tv screaming about something on Sean Hannity and you have half the country watching, bobbing their heads in agreement.

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Where are Pakistans' Islamic neighbors when it comes to helping? It seems to me the people of Islam always want to get on the U.S.A & Christans & Jews about how heartless & evil we are but when it comes to helping their own kind the Islamic pigs do nothing.
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I say we start dropping them concrete mix (inserted by Sadler: I am guessing that the cement is to make cement kimonos)
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how much did it take for Pakistan to build and explode nuclear bombs? Perhaps, they could use another explosion, make a big hole in the ground which would drain surrounding waters and thus save their folks, would be perfect solution. meanwhile, there could be 15 million muslim saved. would that be wonderful?

ok some would be incinerated,,, a collateral damage, too bad
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(Inserted by Sadler: this fazeel fella sounds like a porki)

Fazeel: learn to write in English!...and it is the Muslim religion who is at fault and deserving of our scorn...your arcahic and barbaric religion is a assault on mankind...Islam is little more than a chain on human kinds progress, stone age and it's follower's delusional, each and every one...their laws, will what can i say there!!!!!...Human rights, women's rights, honor killings, dress code, personal freedoms....Yal, that sound good...I have no empathy for any of you maniacs!!! and as for Katrina, we help ourselves, didn't beg or ask for handouts form any Muslim nation!!!!!!...what happen to Allah? and the rest of the Muslims, no help from them???...If you don't like our feelings, LEAVE!!!!!
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OK... Middle East Muslims!! Now's your chance to help your brothers and sisters in need!! They could use the billions of oil money you've been collecting from the imperialistic pigs of the west! Time to put it to GOOD USE!!

Hello?? Muslims?? . Is there anybody out there??
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[Prem]

Its all in Al Kitab , Mohtorma and spare redoing of Taxila like your ancestoral faithfools.
Readership in Pakistan
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2010_pg3_5

The intellectual and societal development of a society can be gauged from the books being read by its people. Where there are no books, there is no knowledge, and where there is no knowledge there is unrest, intolerance and persecution. This fact is true of Pakistan more than anywhere else. We are not a nation of readers. The greatest volume of books available at the Urdu Bazaar in Karachi is that of textbooks. This is compulsory reading and is not indicative of a knowledge quest. The next book genre widely available at this bazaar is children’s books, followed by religious books. When it comes to adult readership, religious books single-handedly dominate. This is aided by a growing sense of religiosity amongst the people and hence the desire to read Islamic books

The dismal state of readership in Pakistan can be gauged by the fact that bookstores are scarce and knowledge-based books such as geo-political commentaries, historical accounts, current affairs write-ups and autobiographies are hard to come by unless bought at exorbitant prices from elite bookstores. One commendable effort in this regard is an online book rental service initiated in Karachi by two US returned professionals. This particular effort has the potential to lead to a revival of the reading culture in Pakistan, since the Internet, as a medium, makes access easy and a rental service mitigates high book buying expenses. This rental service is now even venturing into creating an online database of scattered booksellers’ inventory in Karachi that will work along the lines of an online marketplace where one can search and buy new and old books similar to the US online site called e-bay.

[Prem]

The Cabinet Mission Plan —Ishit aq Ahmed
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2010_pg3_2

The recent discussions in the Daily Times on the partition of India elicited a number of responses from readers eager to understand if by rejecting the Cabinet Mission Plan the Indian National Congress did not bear the main responsibility for the break-up of India. It should be recalled that the high-powered British parliamentary delegation consisting of three Cabinet Ministers, Lord Pethick-Lawrence, Sir Stafford Cripps and Mr A B Alexander, arrived in India on March 23, 1946. By that time the 1946 provincial elections had already been held and the Congress and Muslim League were completely polarised, while the Sikhs were leaning towards but not as yet aligned to the Congress in Punjab. Prolonged parleys with the three parties led nowhere. Consequently, the Cabinet Mission announced its own scheme on May 16, 1947. It rejected the demand for Pakistan because such a state would still have considerable non-Muslim minorities living in it: 37.93 percent in the northwestern and 48.31 percent in the northeastern areas (Transfer of Power 1977: 584). Additionally, 20 million Muslims would be left behind in a total population of 188 million for the rest of India. The Mission then considered a smaller Pakistan from which non-Muslim areas in the eastern Punjab and western Bengal would be excluded. It rejected that too.

The Congress, in a resolution of May 24, 1946 declared that it was not agreeable to the proposals since it believed that an independent India “must necessarily have a strong central authority capable of representing the nation with power and dignity in the councils of the world” (Ibid: 679-80). The fact that the princely states had not been placed in the three groups, and, therefore constituted a separate entity that could decide what powers to cede to the Indian union particularly perturbed the Congress High Command. They were convinced that it was a British ploy to enter into direct relations with the princes and thus continue to be physically present with armed troops all over the subcontinent. Also, the fact that after 10 years the union could be dissolved rendered it too precarious and uncertain a basis to build a strong India. The Sikh leader Master Tara Singh sent a letter dated May 25, 1946 to Secretary of State for India, Pethick-Lawrence in which he said:
“The Sikhs have been entirely thrown at the mercy of the Muslims. Group B comprises Punjab, the NWFP, Sind and Balochistan...The Cabinet Mission recognises ‘the very genuine and acute anxiety of the Muslims lest they should find themselves subjected to a perpetual Hindu majority rule’. But is there no ‘genuine and acute anxiety’ among the Sikhs lest they should find themselves subjected to a perpetual Muslim majority rule? If the British government is not aware of the Sikh feelings, the Sikhs will have to resort to some measures in order to convince everybody of the Sikh anxiety, in case they are subjected to a perpetual Muslim domination” (Ibid: 696-7).

For example, Jinnah demanded a 50-50 Muslim representation whereas the Muslim population at that time was only 24.9 percent of the total population of India.

[Muppalla]

Halal, halal, halal ... ... ...
I don't know why they have to print that way


Flood-affected people jostle for food relief in Nowshera in northwest Pakistan on Aug. 6. Stormy weather grounded helicopters carrying emergency supplies to Pakistan's flood-ravaged northwest Friday as the worst monsoon rains in decades brought more destruction to a nation already reeling from Islamist violence

[Muppalla]

Gurus,

Is there any part other than Baluchistan that is not flooded? Is there any article and maps that show why these floods occured and what are all the rivers that are in spate.

[Amber G.]

Okay gurus - Can you guess where, why, when, by whom, to whom ..this protest?
(Without cheating and looking up the url etc)

[shiv]

Okay gurus - Can you guess where, why, when, by whom, to whom ..this protest?
(Without cheating and looking up the url etc)

Indian WKKs
Relatives of dead soldiers in AfPak?
Relatives of 9-11 dead?
26/11 memorial at the Taj?
Members of Parliament of Israel?

[Rudradev]

Okay gurus - Can you guess where, why, when, by whom, to whom ..this protest?
(Without cheating and looking up the url etc)

Indian WKKs
Relatives of dead soldiers in AfPak?
Relatives of 9-11 dead?
26/11 memorial at the Taj?
Members of Parliament of Israel?

My guess: this was when Obama during his election campaign mentioned going after terrorists within Pakistan.

[RamaY]

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8ec3998c-a3b7 ... abdc0.html
A stable Pakistan is key to defeating terrorism
By Assof Ali Zardari

In the war against extremism and terrorism, we have played the role of a frontline state, losing 2,700 soldiers, including senior officers, and more than 27,000 civilians. Collateral losses total more than $50bn and are still being incurred at the expense of our economy and prestige. No one can match our determination, resilience and sacrifices. We do not need to be lectured as to how to conduct the war against violent extremism. ( De de de de Terroism ke naam pe de de,Deposit directly in Swiss a/c)

Terrorism is not just Pakistan’s problem.

What Mr. 10% saying is that if left alone, Pakistan wouldn't fight islamic extremism. The world should pay if it want Pakistan to "pretend" fighting islamic terrorism.

Terrorism is not pakistan problem. It is Pakistan's contribution.

[hnair]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38621584/ns/weather
Pakistan floods a megadisaster of epic proportions

From the above link

The death toll in each of those three disasters was much higher than the 1,500 people killed so far in the floods that first hit Pakistan two weeks ago. But the U.N. estimates that 13.8 million people have been affected — over 2 million more than the other disasters combined.

The comparison helps frame the scale of the crisis, which the prime minister said Monday was the worst in Pakistan's history. It has overwhelmed the government, generating widespread anger from flood victims who have complained that aid is not reaching them quickly enough or at all.

Now didn't the Chinese govt claim they can make and control heavy rainfall and this same website reported it? Now if India and Israel can be accused by Pakis of testing a bomb near the 2004 Tsunami faultline......

The meteorologists say they can force rain in the days before the Olympics, through a process known as cloud-seeding, to clean the air and ensure clear skies. China has been tinkering with artificial rainmaking for decades, but whether it works is a matter of debate among scientists.

Last May, Beijing boasted having generated rainfall to clear the air and streets following the worst dust storm in a decade.

Technicians with the Beijing Weather Modification Office said they fired seven rocket shells containing 163 cigarette-size sticks of silver iodide over the city's skies. They claimed it provoked a chemical reaction in clouds that forced four-tenths of an inch of rain.

They even have a bureau (with possibility of copious quantities of dossiers) for it!!