Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 2010

[sum]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100819/ap_ ... -container


Also read the comments. Public opinion has definitely taken a turn for the worse.

Wow!!!!!!!!!
Am sure that even if all BRFites had posted and no one else, there would have been atleast ~10% of their posts sympathetic to the Pukes.

But the average Joe who has posted in that yahoo article has shown no mercy and ruthlessly cut Poak to pieces!!!! Atleast Poakland has excelled in one thing: making all Amrikis hate the guts of Pak.

[Hari Seldon]

^^^Sri Ambar is right.

Despite my fondest hopes, I have to admit that the cost/benefit ratio of keeping TSP alive n kicking eastwards continues to hugely favor the benefits side only. The cost is fiat paper, which is not much, to be fair. The benefits, in terms of the nook-flashpoint and terrorism related FUD in this part of the world and the consequent flight-of-capital-to-yamreeki-safe-havens effect more than mitigates that. Also affords DC clout and leverage and the like in this part of the world. Only.

So yup, TSP will emerge stronger than before, following Darwin's laws perhaps (and Darwin awards too).

[Rahul M]

ambar, the money that's flowing in is not even enough to repair damage due to floods. if the RAPEs use it for paying off debts and staving off a breakdown, the larger country will stay damaged. that is a good thing. I would prefer TSP to be completely disintegrated from the inside before the outer shell crumbles, not the other way around.

[arnab]

ambar, the money that's flowing in is not even enough to repair damage due to floods. if the RAPEs use it for paying off debts and staving off a breakdown, the larger country will stay damaged. that is a good thing. I would prefer TSP to be completely disintegrated from the inside before the outer shell crumbles, not the other way around.

Not to mention that the ADB $2 b will be a loan (nobody gives that kind of aid and least of all multilateral institutions). The $900 m from WB is also a loan. Don't worry, there will be an islamist take over of TSP (of the kind the west don't like). As far as India is concerned the islamists have always been ruling TSP.

[Sri]

Am i the only one who is beginning to feel that this so called 'biblical floods' is a fresh life-line to Pakis? Pakistan was virtually bankrupt before the floods and their junk bond spreads had widened wider than Pam Anderson's legs and just when you thought there was gonna be a total collapse they get rescued(yet again) by a massive aid package!

What started as a trickle is now a downpour..WB = 990m$,ADB = 2B$,UN funds = 436m$,EU = 141m$,European nations = 200m$+,US = 150m$, KSA = 120m$,others = ?$. So 4 billion $ has already pledged towards helping the Pakis and the more help is on its way.Even if they end up spending a billion on infrastructure and rehab in affected areas, they are left with 3B$ to take care of other things (namely,aiding terrorists and buying more fancy weapons).And now there is a talk of 'restructuring' their debt.Gilani and Kayani are probably laughing their way to the (swiss) bank..

I Second you Sir. Do you believe the money would have been spent on infrastructure? Off what I hear of the areas most affected, there wasn't much of it anyways. And rehabilitation is another farce. With all our systems and Babugiri even India miserably fails to transfer intent into practice, I am sure Pakistan would be no exception. It is only enterprise and tenacity of the people which will take care of the rehab part. I believe that the money would not have reached the needy anyways. All this would have ended with Army / Politicians. Thats what most of the world including some of Pakistan's strategic partners thought. Hence the response was mute.

Has anything changed in the meantime? Yes. The human tragedy is too immense to ignore. Even before the tragedy Pakistan was screaming about how the west has abandoned it in it's need of hour, with the floods the need of hour becomes a crisis easily and tangibly demonstrated and my feeling is that Pakistan establishment sees this as an opportunity to skim more than anything else. Hence something had give and unfortunately it was the world community. They have now made pledges. I hope they put on some riders. they channel the money via UN or WB or ADB who can demand accountability.

If the world community is still that stupid then as they say in Pakistan 'Allah Malik'. Get ready for some shiny new F16s adorning the Pakistani Flag and some increased activities on borders.

[CRamS]

Am i the only one who is beginning to feel that this so called 'biblical floods' is a fresh life-line to Pakis? Pakistan was virtually bankrupt before the floods and their junk bond spreads had widened wider than Pam Anderson's legs and just when you thought there was gonna be a total collapse they get rescued(yet again) by a massive aid package!

What started as a trickle is now a downpour..WB = 990m$,ADB = 2B$,UN funds = 436m$,EU = 141m$,European nations = 200m$+,US = 150m$, KSA = 120m$,others = ?$. So 4 billion $ has already pledged towards helping the Pakis and the more help is on its way.Even if they end up spending a billion on infrastructure and rehab in affected areas, they are left with 3B$ to take care of other things (namely,aiding terrorists and buying more fancy weapons).And now there is a talk of 'restructuring' their debt.Gilani and Kayani are probably laughing their way to the (swiss) bank..

No you are not the only one. I have been speculating this for a few days now. It was clear to me, reading the opinions of many India containmnt hawks among US elites, that TSP won't be allowed to go under or at least dampen their ability to beat the crap out of us SDREs as they have been doing so far, most recently Mumbai.

[saip]

f%%&&*ing pakistan accepted Indian aid

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[CRamS]

And going back to my post on the Mumbai attacks thread, its a measure of how little real power that "emerging great power" India has that all this moolah is being doled out to TSP RAPE with no checks and balances that they will be used to acquire toys and build up their terrorist infrastructure to hit India. Imagine if the west bank or Gaza were hit by floods. Amercians of course would be on the fore front helping Palestinans with food packages and rescue helicopters, its a rich country afer all with lots of good people, but the crescendo that the aid should not go to hamas or hezbollah would have hit the airwaves round the clock. In this case, the Uneven b$satrd type "experts" know very well that a good portion of this aid is going to go to build up TSP's strategy against India, and yet notice the silence of these mofos.

[Pratyush]

It is disgusting to see the obscene amount of money being paid to TSP as jazia. Yet the great nation will not go down the tube. It will prosper and grow strong on dole to kill Indians.

[CRamS]

f%%&&*ing pakistan accepted Indian aid

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Its nothing. India does not count in comparison to all the huge moolah from US & elsewhere. Thats what TSP meant by saying decision to accept Indian aid will depend on what others give. Right now what India gave is noise. Had they accepted earlier, India would have stood out.

[Sudip]

f%%&&*ing pakistan accepted Indian aid

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Its nothing. India does not count in comparison to all the huge moolah from US & elsewhere. Thats what TSP meant by saying decision to accept Indian aid will depend on what others give. Right now what India gave is noise. Had they accepted earlier, India would have stood out.

they deliberately accepted it late to make us appear as noise only after saudis etc gave in to international pressure and handed out some toffees. initially we were the first and amongst the largest. by doing so they got the money and cleverly made sure, we dont get any spotlight

[CRamS]

Pratyush:

"great nation"?

[Sri]

Not to mention that the ADB $2 b will be a loan (nobody gives that kind of aid and least of all multilateral institutions). The $900 m from WB is also a loan. Don't worry, there will be an islamist take over of TSP (of the kind the west don't like). As far as India is concerned the islamists have always been ruling TSP.

The loan thing rings even more alarm bells at least from my prospective. Why would ADB and WB give loans when they are not sure of repayments? Just before the floods they were breathing down Paki neck to take some radical financial and Tax reforms. After floods logic demands that Pakistan's ability to payback should have been hit even more. This loan and aid thing is a fraud. ADB / WB know that this aid will not be used for rehab and all that gimmick.

I ask how much infrastructure was in place before the floods? If India spends $2.6bn on CWG which includes some serious heavy weight Infrastructure spending in Delhi then in comparison how much do they need to restore Infrastructure in SWAT and Dera Ismail Khan and other areas who were impoverished anyways?

[Pratyush]

Pratyush:

"great nation"?

CRS Saar,

Toung in cheek ,

You don't let me get away with any thing

[arnab]

The loan thing rings even more alarm bells at least from my prospective. Why would ADB and WB give loans when they are not sure of repayments? Just before the floods they were breathing down Paki neck to take some radical financial and Tax reforms. After floods logic demands that Pakistan's ability to payback should have been hit even more. This loan and aid thing is a fraud. ADB / WB know that this aid will not be used for rehab and all that gimmick.

I ask how much infrastructure was in place before the floods? If India spends $2.6bn on CWG which includes some serious heavy weight Infrastructure spending in Delhi then in comparison how much do they need to restore Infrastructure in SWAT and Dera Ismail Khan and other areas who were impoverished anyways?

Well - I'm not sure whether anybody is actually talking about a demise of TSP quite so soon. It is an imminent not an immidiate demise. So money will be recovered. The 'loans' are low interest developmental loan. But every loan comes with an interest burden (however low it may be) - which has to be paid. This takes money away from other 'developmental' areas - all of which will eventually hasten TSP's demise. All the better if the loan money gets stolen (or diverted) instead of actually being used to rebuild infrastructure.

How much infrastructure was in place? Don't know - but images do show - roads, rail and barrages being washed away. A lot of people are displaced. $2 b gets used up very quickly in these circumstances (for e.g fuel costs of TSPAF for sorties to deliver food or rescue people). Remember the pakis asking for $6b during the kashmir earthquake? This is much more widespread.

So IMO - here is how it will play out. Some money will come in - a good portion of it will be stolen or co-opted by the army - eventually the civillians will stop thinking about their immediate survival and question the deliberate ineptitude of the pakjabis - rage will set in - and the fire will hopefully become a conflagration. Baloch are already taking revenge by killing ethnic pakjabis in Balochistan. Soon the other provinces will join in.

[Philip]

Some thoughts:
*The report about fishing being a sunrise industry in Pak after the floods appears to be ringing true! A wretched looking peasant was interviewed on the Beeb,lamenting that he was very,very,poor,had lost everything he owned,and that any aid would "first go to rich people" and to him "last..".He was shown throwing a fishing line into the waters and later pulled out a small net filled with large fish!

*Hillary Clinton's speech on Pak,being with them through thick and thin,modelled on Churchill's famous "fight them on the beaches,in the streets,...".It shows that the US establishment will try not to let its favourite rent boy drown.In fact,rent-boy Pak,will be even more beholden to Uncle Sam in the future and a-willing to do its bidding.

*The aid will be siphoned off by the legendary "crore commanders",for whom $5 million offered by India is "peanuts" for them.What do these worthy terrorists expect? India to award these murderous scum a billion or two? Even the crumbs that will be distributed will first go to the Punjab and Sindh,into the pockets of the mega landowners of the latter day "Zardars"! When the post-flood looting of funds happens as it inevitably will,the people's outrage will be much in evidence and thge ungodly will try to leverage this into an attempt to seize local power,much as the Naxals/Maoists are doing in India.

*India must privately and publicly demand that a "quid-pro-quo" be obtained form Pak and that Pak must downscale its military capabilty that can be used against India.By all means let it fight the "Taliban" of whatever description,but offensive weapons like P-3s,Perry class frigates,AMRAAM missiles,F-16s,etc.,etc.,should be barred for sale to Pak.It cannot use the "Godsend" of the floods to rearm itself just as it did during Zia's time when the Soviet's intervened in Afghanistan.

*India must use the opportunity with Pak flat on its back,to put into action overt and covert projects to reduce the Paki military and terrorist threat.With Pak making unprovoked artillery/mortar firing into India,we should use the opportunity to pick off targets of our choice.If the cracks in the state of Pak widen,we should use the opportunity to cleave Pak into pieces just as we did in '71.But for that we need leadership of the calibre of Mrs.G.Will we get it?

[Neela]

Survey in Deutschland!
12 % have no money to give.
49% think aid will not reach the people in need!
It will take time to reach the upper echelons of governments!
There is always hope.

[Lalmohan]

i am increasingly of the opinion that the floods have been seized upon as another opportunity to fleece the rest of the world of free cash. the genuine sufferers will continue to suffer (as always)

i doubt that the damage (to the core parts of the state machinery) are all that extensive - hence the relative calm of the RAPE

the SDRE peasants were always expendable anyway (by RAPE logic)

[CRamS]

Pratyush:

"great nation"?

CRS Saar,

Toung in cheek ,

You don't let me get away with any thing

Arey bro, just wanted to make sure yaar, thats all. .

I was listening to another TSP Rape, a prof from Boston Univ. I mean the sheer brazen arrogance of these mofos even while begging is simply breath taking. During the show, the host and a caller said that it is because of TSP's double game, I say single game, namely, nurturing terrorists is the reason why the world is ambivalent and suspiscous of TSP. To which the b@stard had the audacity to say: its a 2-way street, TSPians are also ambivalent about the world for being fair weather friends. Can you imagine saying this while begging?

[Pratyush]

Whell he is a RAPE.

The only surprise action from TSP will be when they actually hand over Hafiz sayed & company to India. Else all is just routine drama bazi in TSP.

The TSPits can be what they want. What bothers me is the level of traction their views have with the ROW. Currently it is the mango citizens of the world that have provided me with the greatest hope WRT the furture of TSP.

They are seeing every thing, noting every thing, sooner or later they will demand justice from their Governmens. When they do TSP Will have Hell to pay.

[RajeshA]

The Flood Situation in Pakistan is indeed Allah sent - first to get more money from the West, but it also provides the opportunity to the RAPE to tell all mango abduls, that they cannot expect much from the Govt. because Allah or India has swept away their homes in a great flood.

The Pakistani Govt. abdicated their responsibility to help the poor flood victims, as the floods were in full force. Later on is not going to be much different.

[Philip]

It's started! Riots breaking out in Sukkur,etc.,as desperate Paki peasants start attacking their "saviours",the tribes in uniform.Here is a report how British cabinet ministers were escorted to safety after being attacked.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ttack.html

British cabinet ministers airlifted to safety after Pakistan aid convoy attack
Two cabinet ministers had to be airlifted to safety by the Pakistan military after their official convoy came under attack as they visited the country's flood victims to deliver aid.

Excerpt:

Andrew Mitchell, the Development Secretary, and Baroness Warsi, the Conservative chairman,(Baroness Warsi, who has Pakistani heritage and speaks Urdu, spoke with Adil Ali in Pir Sabak, a little more than an hour outside the capital) were travelling in a convoy that was pelted with stones and faced the threat of petrol bombs when attempting to pass through the protest after a visit to flood hit areas.

Hundreds of men had blocked the Grand Trunk road from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, about an hour from Islamabad, in protest after two local men were killed by the army as they tried to run the Taliban out of the area, which has been devastated in this months floods.

five-car convoy from the British High Commission was surrounded by mobs of men when attempting to pass through the blockade. The protesters carried bottles filled with petrol and threw stones damaging at least three of the vehicles.

The head of security warned: "Turn back quickly, turn back. They've got liquids in bottles, rocks. Get out of here."

No one was injured and the group, which included diplomats and officials, took refuge in the nearby Artillery HQ. The ministers were stranded for an hour before an Army helicopter airlifted the group to safety in Islamabad.

[Pratyush]

Philip,

We don't know if the incident reported was genuine or an incident was created to show Brits the, "Dire Situation". as a precurser to the demand for more AID.

[shravan]

^^ the were protesting Power Cuts.

[Lalmohan]

Miss Pakistan World pageant's timing causes dismay

Al Guardian reports on RAPE vs peasants (let them eat more gajrela I say)

Shiv - please check image, this is the more the face of people in need, imploring for help

[Singha]

so the secret is out - people of pakistan are short, dark, dont take baths and have neither much rice or wheat to eat.

[SSridhar]

Fool me twice, Shame on me
. . . Does anybody have the dates . . .

BijuShet, thanks. I have seen both references. I still do not have info on when this guy was arrested, the exact date.

[Sri]

Well - I'm not sure whether anybody is actually talking about a demise of TSP quite so soon. It is an imminent not an immidiate demise. So money will be recovered. The 'loans' are low interest developmental loan. But every loan comes with an interest burden (however low it may be) - which has to be paid. This takes money away from other 'developmental' areas - all of which will eventually hasten TSP's demise. All the better if the loan money gets stolen (or diverted) instead of actually being used to rebuild infrastructure.

If interest rates are product of the risk associated with Principle amount then by which calculation does Pakistan qualify for low interest regime?

So IMO - here is how it will play out. Some money will come in - a good portion of it will be stolen or co-opted by the army - eventually the civillians will stop thinking about their immediate survival and question the deliberate ineptitude of the pakjabis - rage will set in - and the fire will hopefully become a conflagration. Baloch are already taking revenge by killing ethnic pakjabis in Balochistan. Soon the other provinces will join in.

I think money will be siphoned off. But I don't think there is any revolution coming. As I mentioned above majority of people affected by the floods were not doing all that great anyways. For reasons unknown, these people will never rise up...

To back what I just wrote have a look at the article below... apologies if posted earlier.

The tide of failure

[anupmisra]

Pakjab gov. Salman Taseer's twitter: http://twitter.com/salmaantaseer

When life serves you lemons, make lemonade. I bet this will be the next paki begging strategy: (from the twit above) -

Superb piece Daily Times today by Raja Riaz on writing off Pakistans external debt Set up this paper wth blood treasure & sweat. proud of it

See, Allah actually loves the pakis. What timing!

[anupmisra]

The Flood Situation in Pakistan is indeed Allah sent

Watch the pakis now demand that all their debt is written off. All of it. Heaven sent opportunity. No pun intended.

[shiv]

The tide of failure

First time I am seeing, from a Pakistani source, the attitudes that Pakistanis have about their own poverty

There is, however, some pride taken in the fact (assumption, speculation, really) that ‘we’ don’t have poverty on a scale that the Indians do. Pfft, India Shining. Have you seen the poverty there, they’ll ask. There’s 450 million of them. It’s so shameful, they’ll tut-tut, and the place is so dirty. And the US? Did you know that the world’s richest country has a 14 per cent poverty rate, they’ll sniff.

Poverty here? Over here, there’s some vague recognition that the Thar area and swathes of Balochistan are backward places; that southern Punjab and upper Sindh are poor; that northern Pakistan and the tribal areas haven’t been developed. But there’s little understanding about what that means, that it translates into millions upon millions of the poorest of the poor, quite literally a mass of humanity existing outside and away from the tattered umbrella of the Pakistani state

In fact I made a post on PakTeaHouse on June 12 this year highlighting this - using piskology
http://pakteahouse.wordpress.com/2010/0 ... -quagmire/

<snip>
The point I want to make in this story is that I was suffering from what is called as a “cognitive trap”. In a cognitive trap, just because I see the world in a particular way and just because I have particular experiences, I believe that everyone else also feels exactly the same and has the same experiences.

When you live in a huge country (like Pakistan, not just India) it is easy to lead a cloistered existence – study in an elite school and college, travel by air or on motorways and imagine that you are a world citizen on par with the most developed in the world. The reality that your country might actually be a shit pit becomes evident only when you study (and believe) hard statistics like population, population growth rate, birth rate, infant mortality, child mortality, poverty, literacy etc.

India’s problems have been so huge that Indians have spent decades only trying to surmount them. It appears to me that the educated elite of Pakistan have been living out a dream inside a cognitive trap in which they look at their own charmed lifestyles and say “Pakistan is like this. Wealthy, beautiful, developed. Look at our motorways. Our malls. Our houses are so much smarter. Much more class in Pakistan. But look at India, so much dirt and poverty.”
<snip>
Pakistan’s poor and deprived have always been there. But Pakistan’s leaders have never acknowledged them as either poor or deprived. The fact that everything is “better than India” has been the overarching excuse.

[Aditya_V]

I think now that $ 4 Billion has been raised, it is going to take care of the Payments for the following

1) Chinese reactors
2) U-214's intergrated with Harpoon
3) More Babur's and Nukes from CHinese
4) JF-17 Western radars and Western Avionics

The $6 billion raised for the Earthquate was spent on
1) Purchase of F-16 Block 50/52 and AMRAAM and related goodies
2) Ereye AWACS
3) IL-78 Aircraft
4) Babur missiles from China

All in all while the mango Paki will suffer the TFTA generals will use this to fund more arms which is a trouble for us.

[anupmisra]

Pakistan: Lack of terror convictions hurts fight
A blow to their H&D

Pakistani courts have yet to convict a single person in any of the country's biggest terrorist attacks of the past three years, a symptom of a dysfunctional legal system that's hurting the fight against the Taliban and al-Qaida at a critical time.An Associated Press review found no convictions in the 20 largest and most high-profile terror attacks of the last three years.

Police without basic investigative skills such as the ability to lift fingerprints, and prosecutors who lack training to try terror cases, are some of the main reasons cited. Another daunting challenge: Judges and witnesses often are subject to intimidation that affects the ability to convict.

It has "caused a sense of terror and insecurity amongst the members of society," said one of the country's top judges, Lahore High Court Chief Justice Khawaja Mohammad Sharif.

The legal failures also call into question the government's ability to fight terrorism in any way except by using the army in military offensives or — human rights groups alleged — through targeted extra-judicial killings.

Indeed, human rights groups have accused security forces of carrying out hundreds of assassinations of suspected extremists or sympathizers in the Swat Valley, which the army reclaimed from the Taliban last year, rather than even trying to prosecute suspects in court.

And the best for the last:

The recent acquittals of suspects in two of the most high-profile attacks — the 2008 truck bombing outside the Marriott Hotel in Islamabad and last year's commando-style raid on a police academy in Lahore_ have highlighted the problems plaguing the system. The verdict in the Lahore police academy attack seemed to defy explanation. The only person captured during the eight-hour siege in March 2009 was caught on the academy grounds — in possession of a hand grenade — allegedly trying to blow up a helicopter. Other militants attacked the main building with automatic weapons and grenades, killing 12 people and wounding dozens. But the man claimed he was an innocent garbage collector picking up trash, and was convicted in June only of weapons possession for carrying a hand grenade and sentenced to 10 years in prison. He was acquitted of involvement in the attack for lack of sufficient evidence.

AoA.

[Lalmohan]

most aid pledges so far are not cash, they are redevelopment funds
which means that someone will have to place an order for japanese bulldozers, chinese steel and indian cement and then american contractors will supervise the rebuilding of bridges and roads, whilst the mango abdul will try to rebuild his mud hut by himself
apart from labour contractors, it might be hard to make money out of this...
but then paquis are ingenious at money extortion...

[SSridhar]

The Flood Situation in Pakistan is indeed Allah sent

Watch the pakis now demand that all their debt is written off. All of it. Heaven sent opportunity. No pun intended.

Pakistan had already demanded that and it was even posted here. The TFTA Pakistanis are way ahead of us SDREs in lightning quick reflexes when opportunities present themselves. But, if it is Allah's will and hence they demand 'write off', they should not also demand aid from others. This is what Cameron referred to as 'looking both ways' or what some other call as 'speaking from both corners of the mouth'.

[SSridhar]

Pakistan: Lack of terror convictions hurts fight
A blow to their H&D

What this reporter is missing is the most central plot, namely the very State and the Judiciary colluding with the terrorists and releasing them under one flimsy pretext or the other all the while claiming that their judiciary is independent as in other countries.

When the pro-jihadi CJ of the Lahore High Court, Justice Khwaja Sharif, asks the State Prosecutor why Prof. Hafeez Saeed alone be victimized due to an UNSC resolution when India has never bothered to implement the 1948 UNSC resolution, you understand what kind of justice is being dispensed with and where exactly the sympathies lay.

[vishal]

When the US says it will contribute an additional $150m to relief efforts is it saying this will be material aid like tents, food, water, medicines etc? Or does this number include the cost of operating all those helicopters (fuel, spares & maintenance) plus the operating cost of the USS Peleliu?

Does the US (State + DoD) maintain a separate fund to pay the operating costs of all this equipment in a disaster zone or is there a sum set aside and drawn from for material aid + operating costs for DoD equipment?

[Lalmohan]

the funny thing about aid, is that its mostly loans
and most of those loans can only be spent with donor country organisations and agencies
the money doesnt go very far
theoretically the needy get what they want, but it aint cash
thats why the paquis want more cash and less tents

[vishal]

The Paki govt. is saying that members of banned outfits (basically all the terrorist groups) will not be allowed to operate in flood-hit areas. Why isn't the international media asking why the Paki Army cannot guarantee the same result when it is not facing a distraction as big as these floods but stands ready to deliver on this mission when 20% of the country is supposedly under water?

Link to Rehman Malik's claim in Dawn http://bit.ly/cgNuf3

Time to start inserting this little query in the comments sections of news sites.

[SSridhar]

The Paki govt. is saying that members of banned outfits (basically all the terrorist groups) will not be allowed to operate in flood-hit areas. Why isn't the international media asking why the Paki Army cannot guarantee the same result when it is not facing a distraction as big as these floods but stands ready to deliver on this mission when 20% of the country is supposedly under water?

Link to Rehman Malik's claim in Dawn http://bit.ly/cgNuf3

Vishal, that claim by Rehman Malik is already a bogus claim of the very first order. The JuD/Falah-i-Insaniyat is already on the job and is also collecting funds. Common people of Pakistan are willing to give money to this organization than government agencies because nobody has any faith in the latter. The GoP and the PA are doing exactly what they always do, feigning ignorance about the 'boys' while the 'boys' are doing all the 'work'.