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rohitvats, Please see this post in this thread dated July 2009!

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 29#p709929

One of our former members met him in darbar and had a frank discussion with him and the opinion makers. A lot of similarity in thinking with forum. Most of them do read regularly. And for others without access excerpts get printed.
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ramana wrote:rohitvats, Please see this post in this thread dated July 2009!

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 29#p709929

One of our former members met him in darbar and had a frank discussion with him and the opinion makers. A lot of similarity in thinking with forum. Most of them do read regularly. And for others without access excerpts get printed.
Thank you for that link, ramana.

I actually went through that entire page. Lot of what was written on that page makes a lot of sense after reading and trying to understand the SS article in the previous page.

I'm of firm opinion that 2010-2020 is the decade which will define the destiny of this great rashtra of ours.

Let me add one thing here (and I can say only this much here) - there is lot of movement on the ground with respect to our freind across the Himalayas.
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Rohitvats, Did you see the date of that post and when the thread was started?
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Aye sir...anything significant wrt that? Sorry, but my brain does not register anything.
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India’s weak state will not overhaul China
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/abc794aa-a968 ... ftcamp=rss
Long-run growth depends on the quality of supporting public institutions. True, the India of today is less of a regulatory nightmare than before the opening-up in 1991. Some institutions – those that hold elections, preserve financial stability and regulate telecommunications, for example – have worked well. But these exceptions apart, the state is weak and fraying. Policy reforms do not deserve the spectacular acceleration in growth that the economy has delivered.
..Part of the problem is that Indian politics is getting progressively criminalised. The writ of the state does not run in nearly a quarter of its territory, with much of that area afflicted by violent insurrections. Corruption is endemic. And while India’s high growth should have led to low debt, fiscal populism has ensured that India’s public finances are almost as wobbly as those in the debt-addled industrial countries
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^^^ sadly find myself nodding in agreement with everything the FT says.

Of late, moi outlook on Yindia and its future has changed from decidedly sunny to FUD onlee.... something ominous in the air..... time will tell, whether we hear or not.
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Hari I used to be awed by such Modernist arguements from elitemen which are another way of saying India will fail. However time and again India has surprised everyone and will find its own way.

BTW< relevant itme from Nightwatch, 8/16/2010...
China: Data released today show that the Chinese economy has surpassed Japan's economy, making it the second largest after the US.

Readers are reminded that the Chinese keep more than one set of books. The report is headline grabbing, but the accounting details are somehow not available for independent analysis. For example how does one assign a money value to a system that is not money-based for most of its population, nearly a billion people? The Chinese are running a magnificent con and it is not sustainable for many more years.
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rohitvats wrote:Aye sir...anything significant wrt that? Sorry, but my brain does not register anything.
Yes. The dates are ~ a year to the present and before such thinking has permeated in opionion maker circles.

Truely ahead of the curve.
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A psy-ops from FT? Time and time again, "journalist sepoys" get recruited by the videshi media moghuls. The title talks about overhauling China, but then in the entire article China gets mentioned once - that too comparing the 2008 Olympics. These glass-half-empty stories are nothing new.
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Yes, I was indeed wondering why the massive import of SS's article was not discussed more thoroughly on BRF. This is the first time a formal announcement of the idea of collapse (in any manner) being good for India is discussed publicly by a officer of GoI, that too by a very senior one.

I will however submit, the no-war collapse is bit of a chimera, there will have to be a war, hopefully though the preparation for a no-war collapse will also dovetail with whatever a potential war linked collapse or collapse linked with war would need from the Indian state.
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Sanku ji,

Welcome back
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Thanks milind.

Thanks Abhi.
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Sanku,
welcome back!
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Sanku wrote:Yes, I was indeed wondering why the massive import of SS's article was not discussed more thoroughly on BRF. This is the first time a formal announcement of the idea of collapse (in any manner) being good for India is discussed publicly by a officer of GoI, that too by a very senior one.

I will however submit, the no-war collapse is bit of a chimera, there will have to be a war, hopefully though the preparation for a no-war collapse will also dovetail with whatever a potential war linked collapse or collapse linked with war would need from the Indian state.

Happy Independence Day indeed! Good to have you back. Dont get forced vacations.
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Sanku, good to see you again. Your perspective was missed.
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Arre- Sanku ji,
missed you! e-khat as to the issue - if possible?
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Sanku bhai, welcome back!
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Welcome back Sanku !
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rohitvats wrote:The first 3/4th of the articel by SS could have been easily passed off as summary of collective wisdom (that I could glean) from BRF on the TSPA.

May the tribe of SS and his ilk grow.
Where is SS article. Can someboyd post it
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Thanks Ramana, RD, brihaspati, Hari and Rupesh. It is certainly nice to be back.

Bji, e-khat sent.

Ramanaji, I will try and take no more forced vacations, but quite frankly this time around I have no clue as to what the warnings were all about. I am still scratching my head for some of them, ah well!! Just to put it on record, no hard feelings what so ever Rahul and Archan, misunderstandings are certainly possible in such a format, and I will attribute it to such.
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Prem wrote:India’s weak state will not overhaul China
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/abc794aa-a968 ... ftcamp=rss

..Part of the problem is that Indian politics is getting progressively criminalised. The writ of the state does not run in nearly a quarter of its territory, with much of that area afflicted by violent insurrections. Corruption is endemic. And while India’s high growth should have led to low debt, fiscal populism has ensured that India’s public finances are almost as wobbly as those in the debt-addled industrial countries
The US too is, to some extent, in the same boat - see
VOTE FRAUD AND THE BANKRUPTCY OF THE UNITED STATES - http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICL ... index.html
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Maybe that will put you on the alert to be sensitive as to what you post! 8)

Meanwhile Ashok Mehta writes on the need for MPs to get national security orientation..
EDITS | Wednesday, August 18, 2010 | Email | Print | | Back


Into battle, with resolve

Ahok K Mehta

Mhow was well chosen as the seat of the art and craft of war. It has a rich military history, growing from Mao, a tiny village

Did you know that Clausewitz, the most indefatigable thinker of military craft has quoted extensively from the Gita in his works on war ? The Army War College in Mhow, Madhya Pradesh, has chosen the same crown jewels from the Gita as its crest and motto. The inscription in Sanskrit reads: Yuddhaya Krita Nishchaya — Into battle, with resolve.

On entering the magnificent portals of the AWC one will see the lifesized plaque of the ancient chariot carrying Lord Krishna and Arjun on the epic battlefield of Kurukshetra. Arjun, hesitant to fight his own kith and kin among his enemies is exhorted by Lord Krishna: “Slain you will obtain Heaven, victorious you will enjoy Earth. Therefore, stand up O son of Kunti, resolved to fight.” And so the sermon goes on, epitomising the best in combat and soldiering.

Mhow was well chosen as the seat of the art and craft of war. It has a rich military history, growing from Mao, a tiny village into Mhow (Military Headquaters of War) into the Mecca of military learning and the heart and soul of the Indian Army. A British cantonment came up after the local Holkar rulers were defeated in 1818. As a subaltern with 4th Hussars, Winston Churchill trained here. So did the legendary Chindits under Orde Wingate. Mhow has bred not just the captains of war but also the prophets of peace and sport. Babasaheb Ambedkar, father of the Indian Constitution was born in the Military Hospital at Mhow and India’s hockey captain during the 1948 London Olympics learnt his stick work on the local Polo ground.

What a pity the founding fathers of the Indian National Congress who fought the British tirelessly for establishing an Indian Military Academy on the lines of Sandhurst did not have the foresight to institutionalise training at Mhow for our Members of Parliament and law-makers. Otherwise the face of India and the quality of debate and verbal combat in both Houses would have been so refreshingly different. Equally, a mature higher direction of war by the political class would have resulted in more favourable outcomes in war. The Government has persisted in ignoring a taste of military experience for the political and civilian elite of this country to their own peril.

But the military was quick to learn its lessons. In the wake of the 1962 and 1965 wars, the College of Combat was established for enhancing junior and middle level leadership while Infantry School was left to continue sharpening skills in weapons and tactics of combat. Developing Higher Command was formally introduced at the College after the 1971 war. The AWC, a name change for College of Combat, came up in 2003 in a brand new location where it is growing in wisdom and experience.

So what you have today is the AWC, a premiere all-arms training institution which imparts combat leadership at different levels of command, from company to battalion to brigade, culminating in the feel for a divisional-size force. At the Junior Command Course are officers of all arms and services, ranging in service from four to 13 years for whom this grass-roots level training is mandatory. The next level is the Senior Command which is meant for all potential Commanding Officers to acquire the coveted leadership of an Infantry Battalion or an Armoured Regiment, which is the ultimate command experience in officer-jawan relationship.

The Higher Command is the final rung of training pitched at directional and conceptual levels for senior officers of all three services where live operational plans are studied in different theatres of combat. As classified subjects are discussed, Higher Command is not available for foreign officers. The course has proved so valuable for operational expertise that countries like Sri Lanka and Nepal have requested AWC to run separate training courses called Higher Defence Orientation Course for their officers.

One hundred and fifty officers from foreign countries are trained every year on various courses with Sri Lanka securing the maximum vacancies. Their Brigade and Divisional Commanders have attended the Senior Command course designed for battalion commanders. One of the instructors at the AWC quipped: “No wonder they won the war defeating the LTTE.” He forgot to mention that IPKF was not given a fighting chance to do so. Both Sri Lanka and Nepal are designing their own Higher Command and Leadership courses, borrowing heavily from their Mhow learning.

The AWC trains over 2,500 officers of the Indian Army annually and has so far trained over 70,000 Indian officers and 3,500 officers from 24 foreign countries. The current draw is from Africa, South-East Asia and Saarc countries including soon Afghanistan. It is to Afghanistan that India should offer intensified combat leadership training so that the Afghan National Army can not only cope with the operational challenges posed by the Afghan Taliban but also build a solid foundation for leadership at all levels of command though for the immediate focused on fighting insurgency.

The accent of training is unique. While at the JC course the focus is on learning, at SC the thrust is on applying the learnt wisdom. Remember 600 to 800 officers at any one time on these two courses bring together the collective experience of different combat theatres and other operational areas and this interface of practical experience is most valuable. Students at HC question the received wisdom — existing concepts, doctrines and unsettled ideas are brainstormed. Change with continuity remains the guiding ethos of the college.

Mhow has a civilian face reflecting the hallmarks of an English village — church, pub, grocery shop and post office — alongside a galaxy of tailors from the Moolchands to Balchands who have kitted out 80 per cent of the Indian Army. Gone are the Goans who came with the Railways as also the Masalawallahs, Bandookwalahs and Daruwallahs, leaving just a Parsi whiff behind.

Four days in Mhow last week in cool, lush green surroundings in the energising company of upcoming military leaders were fulfilling. After listening to their frank and meaningful discussions on defence and security, parliamentary debates over CWG, Jammu & Kashmir, Bhopal gas disaster, Mamata-Maoist nexus were as depressing in quality as they were sickening, about the rot in governance. It is time for Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to lead from the front, heeding the motto of the AWC — Into battle with resolve.
Maybe Gen Mehta should suggest short capsule topics for MPs and other civilians.

Even we on BRF can put together short presentations to give overview. Any takers?
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Pranav wrote:
..Part of the problem is that Indian politics is getting progressively criminalised. The writ of the state does not run in nearly a quarter of its territory, with much of that area afflicted by violent insurrections. Corruption is endemic. And while India’s high growth should have led to low debt, fiscal populism has ensured that India’s public finances are almost as wobbly as those in the debt-addled industrial countries
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Mostly junk news. This maoists are being made as a significant presence
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naxals never have and never will overule the state in a third of its territory. This is propoganda of the highest order and commonly found in anti-india rants.
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The Naxals are supported by the Congress to attack non-Congress governments. It is the old congress ploy of using violent extremists to attack its opponents. They did this in Punjab when they supported terroristic outfits against the Akalis, which finally burst as militancy in Punjab. They did this in Assam when they used ASU against communists, then Ulfa against Asu, then Indian Army against Ulfa. The same in Sri Lanka as well.

The naxals were recently used successfully to topple N Chandrababu Naidu. YS Reddy was very likely killed by Naxals when he had gone to meet them in his helicopter. It is only after his murder that the current offensive got underway.

All the hulla balloo is only because the government wants to justify using mass violence against the tribal people, take over their lands, and convert them to Xtianism. All the Naxal activity is taking place in areas of evangelist interests - this is a point which is often overlooked. What is more, World Bank is still active in these areas despite the Government of India telling them to stop.

All these links are connected.
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x-post
BSNL now free to buy Chinese telecoms gear
Reuters) - India has lifted restrictions on state-run telecom Bharat Sanchar Nigam (BSNL) buying telecoms gear from Chinese vendors, having addressed security concerns, junior telecoms minister Sachin Pilot said on Thursday.The government had asked BSNL in May last year not to buy equipment from Chinese vendors for use in sensitive regions near the country's land border, citing national security.Last month, the government revised telecoms licence rules saying telecom equipment vendors must allow inspection of their gear and made carriers solely responsible for the security of their networks.
"Accordingly, now BSNL may enter into agreement with foreign vendors for purchase of equipment/software/services," Pilot said, citing the revised rules, in a written reply in parliament to a question whether BSNL was barred from procuring equipment from Chinese vendors.
http://in.reuters.com/article/idINIndia-50944920100819
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Secular India has Gobermund aided mosques ? Now I know where all that money SDREs donate in Tirumala and likes goes to.

Btw SC is indeed a big farce.

RJD, TC demand salaries for Imams
With Bihar and West Bengal [ Images ] assembly elections in sight, Rashtriya Janata Dal and Trinamool Congress [ Images ] on Saturday demanded implementation of a 17-year-old Supreme Court order to provide salaries to Imams (clerics) of government-aided mosques.

"Congress has only indulged in vote ki rajniti (votebank politics). It only seeks votes from the minorities but does little for their welfare," RJD chief Lalu Prasad told mediapersons outside Parliament House.

RJD, Samajwadi Party and Trinamool Congress had raised the issue of salaries for imams during Zero Hour. Prasad said as per the 1993 Supreme Court judgement, a law was to be framed within six months to provide salary to Imams (clerics) of government-aided mosques and remuneration to Imams of unaided mosques.

"Once we return to power in Bihar, we will implement the decision in the state," Prasad said. To a question on some Bharatiya Janata Party [ Images ] members opposing the move, Prasad said, "If they have any problem, they too can approach the apex court for granting similar facilities to sadhus and saints."
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Was reading this tech item on a phoren mag
The Eyes Have It: Why Iris Scanning Rules
about a biometrics firm founder pushing the advantages of biometrics bigtime...nothing new...
When you look at the ways to link the data together, biometrics is the obvious choice. With a fingerprint, for instance, there's about 100 recognizable data points. ... It's one of the reasons fingerprints is causing so many problems.

With iris, you have over 2,000 points. Those 2,000 points appear when you're born. When you're in your mother's womb, your iris tears in a unique fashion. That tear stays constant until the day you die. ... So while a lot of what you see in Minority Report is very real today, the part about pulling out eyeballs is not real.

With those 2,000 points, you can create a unique 16,000 bit stream of numbers that represents every human on the planet. That provides a reference point that can connect everything you do in all aspects of life, for the first time ever.
And so on. Moving to what biometrics exactly and why, well...
Voice biometrics are also huge. It's how the CIA monitors communication across the globe. They sift through cell phones and create voice biometrics to find Al-Qaeda members, for instance, and hit them in their car later with a missile. That is not going away either.

All those biometrics are important, but what are the two biometrics that you can use for a program that spans the globe? DNA and iris. Obviously DNA can't be captured from a distance. But that probably will happen in the not-too-distant future. So that leaves you with Iris.
Again, interesting but still OT for this dhaga until I stumbled upon this little gem...
While fingerprints are not the best choice, they'll be part of the landscape for years to come. India right now is doing the world's first digital census. They're collecting fingerprints, face, and iris. Face is important -- our devices can capture face too.
And I was like WOW. Really far-sighted and all for some neta-babu combine to think this up, prep for it, budget and approve it and actually execute it, eh? Sadly, I'm in Des and nobody's knocked my doors for this so, implementation gaps are huge, seems like.
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It will be tied to UID eventually.
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Youtube of MP Navjot Sidhu's speech in parliament on the denial of Hertage site status to Amritsar

Awesome speech, passionately made, flawlessly delivered. Couldn't help but brim with happiness and applause several times duirng the speech.

Just 6 minutes long sirs, worth watching though!
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negi wrote:Secular India has Gobermund aided mosques ? Now I know where all that money SDREs donate in Tirumala and likes goes to.

Btw SC is indeed a big farce.

RJD, TC demand salaries for Imams
With Bihar and West Bengal [ Images ] assembly elections in sight, Rashtriya Janata Dal and Trinamool Congress [ Images ] on Saturday demanded implementation of a 17-year-old Supreme Court order to provide salaries to Imams (clerics) of government-aided mosques.

"Congress has only indulged in vote ki rajniti (votebank politics). It only seeks votes from the minorities but does little for their welfare," RJD chief Lalu Prasad told mediapersons outside Parliament House.

RJD, Samajwadi Party and Trinamool Congress had raised the issue of salaries for imams during Zero Hour. Prasad said as per the 1993 Supreme Court judgement, a law was to be framed within six months to provide salary to Imams (clerics) of government-aided mosques and remuneration to Imams of unaided mosques.

"Once we return to power in Bihar, we will implement the decision in the state," Prasad said. To a question on some Bharatiya Janata Party [ Images ] members opposing the move, Prasad said, "If they have any problem, they too can approach the apex court for granting similar facilities to sadhus and saints."
ITs only a matter of time that Hindus officially start paying Jazia to the Muslims. In the secular county of India.
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Hari Seldon wrote:Youtube of MP Navjot Sidhu's speech in parliament on the denial of Hertage site status to Amritsar

Awesome speech, passionately made, flawlessly delivered. Couldn't help but brim with happiness and applause several times duirng the speech.

Just 6 minutes long sirs, worth watching though!
Amazing speech. Absolutely blown away. The end gave me goosebumps. Thank you for posting this great vid, Hari sir.
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ramana wrote:It will be tied to UID eventually.
Bu the problem is that it will infilterated by western agencies. That is the rpoblem
Indian assests should be only for India.
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Hari Seldon wrote: And I was like WOW. Really far-sighted and all for some neta-babu combine to think this up, prep for it, budget and approve it and actually execute it, eh? Sadly, I'm in Des and nobody's knocked my doors for this so, implementation gaps are huge, seems like.

Well I was visited by Census officals, comprising of three as a team ( one from Revenue) collecting Census data as well as NPR data.

No iris, fingreprint or face recognition as yet. May be in second phase. Don't know the schedule yet.
Eventually UID is going to be tied up with NPR. All Govt Dept would, next, be advised to use UID field as key field for their use, just as PAN was. Eventually all data would be indexed on UID.
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/fea ... 389863.cms

Book review: Colonialism and Indian Economy
An interesting chapter of Colonialism and Indian Economy devotes entirely to counter the arguments of Prof Marika Vicziany, a professor of Asian political economy in Australia, on the subject of de-industrialisation of Bihar. The very nature of arguments as an academic battle of wits, which may go on like a ping-pong match or the swinging of a pendulam, if the analyses are based on separate findings or premise.

Towards the closing chapters, the author does strike a chord with the common bibiliophile when he touches upon the issue of civil liberty being linked to economic independence. Closely linked to it is the debt process prevalent in the Raj era and the ‘failure of agricultural banking for the poor peasant’. If the wordings sound familiar to a newspaper reader or Peepli Live audiences, it is not incidental.
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Pakistan wants to kill Facebook, but India loves it
http://www.daniweb.com/news/story306884.html
In the month of July alone, some 33 million Internet users over the age of 15 visited social networking sites in India according to comScore measurements, and that represents some 84 percent of the total Internet audience. This places India as the seventh largest social networking market worldwide. The really interesting number to pull out of the comScore figures is not that 43 percenter, but rather that it equates to more than triple the rate of growth of the total Internet audience in India.
Perhaps unsurprisingly, Facebook would appear to be the main beneficiary of this India social media growth, seeing a rise of 12 percent from June to July to capture the most visited of social networking spots for the first time with some 20.9 million visitors. To put that growth into some perspective, it represents an increase of 179 percent versus a year ago. But that's where the similarity to other global markets stops though, with 19.9 million Indians visiting Orkut to put it in second place followed by BharatStudent with 4.4 million visitors.Don't think that Twitter is forgotten in India, as it isn't. It showed the highest rate of growth among the top five social networking sites according to the comScore report with an increase of 239 percent to 3.3 million visitors. Yahoo! also did well, being the owner of two of the top ten social networking properties: Yahoo! Pulse (3.5 million visitors) and Yahoo! Buzz (1.8 million visitors).
"The social networking phenomenon continues to gain steam worldwide, and India represents one of the fastest growing markets at the moment" said Will Hodgman, comScore executive vice president for the Asia-Pacific region. "Though Facebook has tripled its audience in the past year to pace the growth for the category, several other social networking sites have posted their own sizeable gains".
( Can this be used for Data Mining by the BC EJs and IJs )
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Prem wrote:
"The social networking phenomenon continues to gain steam worldwide, and India represents one of the fastest growing markets at the moment" said Will Hodgman, comScore executive vice president for the Asia-Pacific region. "Though Facebook has tripled its audience in the past year to pace the growth for the category, several other social networking sites have posted their own sizeable gains".
( Can this be used for Data Mining by the BC EJs and IJs )
All the information in the web can be used for all these things by EJs. Sociology has been used in every manner by EJ in the consumer sector - consumer analytics, consumer patterns - Amway - , psycho-graphics, credit ratings, location based info, network/social info , job, edu, profession, caste, jati, creed, religion etc.
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Any insights on this information

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Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan offer land on lease to Punjabi farmers
Jangveer Singh
Tribune News Service

Chandigarh, August 24

There seems to be a surfeit of choices for Punjabi farmers wishing to till land abroad with the Central Asian countries of Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan now extending an invitation to lease out land to farmers of the state.

African countries have wooed Punjabi farmers in the last four or five months with the ambassadors of several countries visiting Punjab to appeal to farmers as well as corporates to take up land in their countries. The Union Government is also facilitating land tie-ups in Brazil, Mexico and Argentina.


Deputy Chief Minister Sukhbir Singh Badal is accompanying Union Agriculture Minister Sharad Pawar on a visit to these countries from September 3 to 13.

The Punjab Government is also set to explore land leasing opportunities for its farmers in Central Asian countries. Punjab Agro will take a delegation of seven or eight progressive farmers to a visit these countries in October.

Giving details Punjab Agro Managing Director S K Sandhu told TNS that Uzbekistan and Kazakistan, which were offering land to Punjabi farmers, were only two or three hours away by plane. “This is a unique advantage for Punjabi farmers,” he said, adding it would open up trade in fruit and vegetables also, an aspect that would also be explored by the delegation, which will be led by Deputy CM Sukhbir Badal.

Sandhu said the delegation would visit Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Ukraine and Azerbaijan. He said the team would explore the market for the export of fruit, vegetables, potato seed and basmati rice. He said it was felt that Punjabi farmers should try to bag a portion of the fruit and vegetable trade keeping in view the immense possibilities in the case of opening of the land route to these countries. Sandhu said in the meantime even airlifting could work out economically due to the short flight distance to these countries.

Confederation of Potato and Seed Farmers Association representative Jang Bahadur Singh Sangha, who is also on the list of farmers scheduled to visit Central Asia, said government-backed initiatives to settle Punjabi farmers had a big chance of success. He said there was scope for selling potato seed also and that a market for the same could be established in the Central Asian countries.

Sangha said his association members had already visited Ethiopia on the invitation of its government and evaluated the land on offer in the country. He said field research had also been conducted with the help of an agri- scientist and that now professional help was being taken to isolate the land to be taken up for cultivation. Sangha said Ethiopia was a good option for Punjabi farmers due to its good climate and corruption-free regime but that Latin American as well as Central Asian countries could also be good bets.
Great initiative. Maybe Central Asia is India's Far West!
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Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan offer land on lease to Punjabi farmers

Great initiative. Maybe Central Asia is India's Far West!
My friend who has been to khazakstan and uzbek says that there is goodwill for India.
Vast lands. empty factores and ghost towns. Chini have made lot of inroads into business and trade.

India needs to develop this long term.
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