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@Sachin, Sir do you think that method is the way to solve problems? Or is it just kicking the can down later and building up the pressure in cooker for some one else to handle?

Shouldn't the heat (if it builds) be diverted by other actions? For example use the heat to have UCC in practice? Or have even more stringent actions in hitherto no go areas to show to Mango Indian that there is Govt doing the right thing and hence they dont need to take things in their hand? At the same time sending message to bleeding heart types that religious affiliation does not give your right to be special.

Instead we have setting up of forces on the communal chess board, today or tomorrow some one will play the game.
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Sanku wrote:@Sachin, Sir do you think that method is the way to solve problems? Or is it just kicking the can down later and building up the pressure in cooker for some one else to handle?
Honestly, I DONT think that is the correct way to solve the problems. I was just thinking out aloud another reason (??) of coming up with bogeymen like Hindutva terrorism. An all out offensive (by Govt., Media etc.) against Islamic terrorism would also lead to a situation that taking cue from the government, mango men also starts dealing with the terrorists (or people who they consider to be terrorists) directly ;).

And also I am seeing a kind of polarization clearly setting in. People seem to have started seeing through the tricks, and I really dont know when the dam would burst and the Govt. of the day cannot save the situation by whining about Islamic terrorism, Hindutva terrorism, X'ian terrorism etc.

All said and done if PC can some how get the Home Ministry working and bring too book the maximum number of terrorists, anti-nationals that would work wonders. But if it becomes the standard excuse making excercise, then we are going down the slippery slope. Because some day some one else would declare "enough of excuses" and go an outright offensive.
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Sachin, I agree that VS Acharya should have handled it much better than what he eventually did at the press conference.

As for Madhani's bail plea, I thought the police said they were planning to extend their custody of him. They have a vaild reason though because he observes fast during the day time and the police are therefore unable to make best use of the time available.

I am also happy with VS Atchudanandan's approach so far. I was pleasantly surprised, to tell you the truth. Even if Madhani's Bengaluru case becomes problematic, there are other issues like the Collectorate Bomb case, the TN bus burning case, the illegal possession of explosives case, the recruitment for jihad case and the Lecturer hand-chopping case where T. Nazir and Madhani's gangs can be implicated. Insha Allah.

As for PC, he is playing with fire if he thinks that he can create a bogeyman and warm himself and his Congress Party in the aftermath. There is also an angle of the upcoming Babri Masjid judgement. He comes from the Chettiar community who are deeply religious. It is almost impossible to see atheists among this community. The only exception to that rule, AFAIK, was the great poet Kannadasan in his younger days but who later became so religious that the atheist parties in TN mortally dreaded him because he was capable of giving them back much more than he received. Having been part of them, he also knew every trick of theirs. In PC's case, his marriage and the resultant discord had a huge bearing on his ties with his community though the wounds must have healed by now. Having said all that, I too think he is the best bet today notwithstanding the ridiculous & objectionable statement he made.
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News links.
Commissioner of Police denies Mahdani's involvement in Bengaluru stadium blasts
Local daily reports that Bengaluru Police may question Soofiya Mahdani as well. Looks like the hubby and wifey should be put in a room and allowed time to reason out which of them received telephone calls using whose phones.
Forum for Mahdani
In Kollam a group have started a "A Justice to Mahdani" forum :roll:. The people championing the cause are Bhasurendarn Babu, Dr s Balaraman, Neelalohitadasan Nadar, MLA, T Arif Ali and Mr P K Koya Maulavi. Former MP Sebastin Paul is the chairman of the forum
Lecturer Attack. Probe leads to Thejus Daily
Some of the gang members had used mobile phones which were registered under the "Thejus" news paper address. The editor made his appearance at the PS, and told the mobile phones and its usage are based on management policies. It is now time for P.Usman the managing director joins the queue for visiting the PS.

* All links from Mathurbhumi English edition.
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Before forming PDP Madani was part of hyderabad based outfit Noorisha Tariqat.
The interrogation of People's Democratic Party president Abdul Nassar Madani by Bangalore police is throwing up interesting material. He told them that before forming PDP, he was a member of a Hyderabad-based outfit called Noorisha Tariqat.

Police sources said Noorisha Tariqat does not exist anymore in Hyderabad, but had conducted several terror camps in Kerala. Currently, it has some members in Kerala and recently, the main functionary Alim was arrested by Kerala police in a bombing case. It had been receiving financial assistance from both within and outside the state.
This guy has a terror-footprint in all the four southern states.
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Sachin wrote:The people championing the cause are Bhasurendarn Babu, Dr s Balaraman, Neelalohitadasan Nadar, MLA. Former MP Sebastin Paul is the chairman of the forum
Of course, I remember the name Neelalohitadasan Nadar of the famous IAS officer molestation case. But, who are the other gentlemen ? What are their affiliations and why are they interested in Shri Madhani ?
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Before forming PDP Madani was part of hyderabad based outfit Noorisha Tariqat.
Read the above report along with ....
In his classes, organised under the cover of Noorisha Tariqa, a Sunni order, Nazeer used to exhort his followers to take up arms against the Indian Government.

So looks like Mahdani and Thadiyantavida Nazir were old pals during the Noorisha Tariqa days. Guess, the police are investigating on this angle as well. Mahdani - Thadiyan duo seems to have a common thread in very many cases. If I am not mistaken Thadiyan also assisted Sufiya Mahdani with the burning down of a TN State Transport bus.
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negi wrote:Yes this is not the HM P Chidambaram we know. I am afraid if the few sane voices like him too talk like one of those CON party's sekular parrots then things would only get worse as far as internal security is concerned.

Poor guy thinks he is next in line in case MMS takes retirement as a prelude to Rahul baba. So he has to make his secular credentials strong. Its all political theater and par for the course.

He is as sane or not as the next INC goons.
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ramana wrote:
Poor guy thinks he is next in line in case MMS takes retirement as a prelude to Rahul baba. So he has to make his secular credentials strong. Its all political theater and par for the course.
He is going thru the qualification process.
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Madhya Pradesh: 103 more explosive laden trucks missing

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/madhy ... sing-47427
Trucks loaded with detonators and gelatine sticks were sent from the government's Dholpur Factory in Rajasthan to Chanderi and Sagar town in Madhya Pradesh.

Both companies are owned by Jaikishan Aswani who is now absconding.

Read more at: http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/madhy ... g-47427?cp
is this seriously possible?
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An overdose of truth serum up the Maudhany of Maudhany will result in truth pouring out of the orifice that usually spouts crap when he opens it in public. This 400% kachua chaap criminal is a political hot aloo and that is the only reason why he is being handled with care. Like it or not we have yet another Afzal Guru in the making. The mofo will not confess to anything without being threatened with chillipowder laced danda. Only leaked transcripts of his confessions under the influence of truth serum will help build consensus for action against him.
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Diamond heist accused remanded
It is good that Dubai extradited these criminals in a jiffy. How times have changed !
Four foreign nationals, who allegedly stole diamonds worth Rs. 6.6 crore during a jewellery show near here, were brought here on Thursday from Dubai.
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SSridhar-> Nothing has changed, even though much of it was stolen from an Isreali exhibition in Mumbai, Columbian acting against business interests are easy to extradite, but Underworld DOns with the right connections in Pakistan Dubai, Indian political and cinema elite will never be extradited.
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Concern over trespassing incidents at Chennai airport
Trespassing of people into the operational area of the Chennai airport is causing concern to authorities. In the last three years, nearly 15 cases were reported.

According to a senior Airports Authority of India official, in July this year itself, two cases of trespassing were reported. One case was reported this month.

Last week, a 45-year-old man was found loitering near bay No. 55 where an aircraft was parked. Security personnel of the airline, on seeing the stranger near the aircraft, caught and handed him over to the authorities.

In most of the cases, security authorities label the intruder “mentally unstable.”

A couple of years ago, a proposal to install Perimeter Intrusion Detection System was mooted. The airport was to be divided into six areas – perimeter fencing, perimeter surveillance, passenger and staff surveillance, baggage control and unattended objects, vehicle movement and access control. The system would have helped in providing better surveillance. It was dropped owing to shortage of funds, say AAI authorities.
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Prime suspect in Jnaneswari disaster case killed in encounter
Umakanta Mahato, a prime suspect in the Jnaneswari train sabotage case, was killed by the joint forces during an 'encounter' in West Midnapore district in the wee hours on Friday.

Acting on a specific tip-off from locals that the Maoist-backed People's Committee against Police Atrocities (PCPA) leader, who was carrying a reward of Rs. one lakh on his head, was hiding with a squad at Mohanpur near Lodhasuli jungle, the joint forces comprising CRPF, CoBRA and police personnel closed in on the area at around 1:00 am, police sources said,

Mahato and his squad opened fire to which the joint forces, led by Additional Joint Superintendent of Police Mukesh Kumar, retaliated, with the encounter carrying on till around 5:00 am, the sources said.

When the firing ceased, the joint forces entered the forested area and found the body of Mahato. A motorcycle, a mobile phone and a 9 mm pistol were found near the body, the sources said.

Superintendent of Police, Jhargram, Pravin Tripathy said that the operation was a major success as Mahato had been absconding since the announcement of the Rs. one lakh reward on his head by the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) which is investigating the May 28 Jnaneswari Express disaster that left 148 passengers dead.
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I don't know why anyone needs to bat in back-foot whenever anyone utters the term, Saffron terror. May be the word Saffron is not appropriate. As B. Raman suggested it should be Hindu *reprisal* terror. I see that as natural response to callous attitude of the administration and continued unwavering support of locals to the terror from across the border. It only shows that our society is alive and kicking and still have cojones, if i can use the word, to stand against such hatred and aggression. For many reasons, Indian security establishment has tried to suppress the involvement of locals in the Mumbai 26/11. what will one, who was directly affected by such tragedy, think if the politicians and administration goes out of way in protecting those hooligans or appeasements after appeasement to such community when burnt of such terror is borne by another community or witnessing the return of Gallantry awards in the Parliament attack case? At some point of time the latent hatred is going to cross the threshold. If any such thing happens, responsibility squarely lies on the shoulders of the Government which allowed the situation to go thus far.

But it couldn't agree with B. raman when he says innocent muslims will be affected by such terror. Maybe they are innocent by law as innocence is maintained as long as proved otherwise. But you don't need a NIA to tell the affected people who is colliding with the anti-nationals or who are involved in anti-national activities. From the local taxi-driver to local police station constable knows what is happening. And anyone who is frustrated with the administration can help anyone who want to do the 'reprisal' act.

We need many PC to clean the system assuming that he doing a decent job.
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Mort Walker wrote: Whenever there is legitimate criticism of PC and his atheist behavior, the Tamilian BRF members take this as a personal attack and begin ad hominem attacks on the original poster.
This is a legitimate concern about PC's atheist outlook and how it can adversely affect India. We can see with this particular action how PC's atheist outlook is undesirable. He should step down immediately and the opposition should ask just that.
What do you mean by atheist behavior and how is PC's atheist outlook adversely affecting India?

I absolutely do not believe that he is justified in using the "saffron" word before terrorism and IMO it is politically motivated and could even be sinister at worst. But I don't understand how atheism is associated with this. Also, can you give me some examples where Tamilian BRF members take offense to legitimate criticism of PC and his atheist behavior. Thanks.

Also, on a related note, why can't an Indian be an atheist? We welcome Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus, Christians, Jews and others who believe in different gods to be in various powerful positions. Why not atheist who doesn't believe in god?
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I am puzzled by the brouhaha over the saffron terror remark by the home minister. The term has the sanction of the dynasty seeing how Rahul Gandhi's political manager (Digvijay Singh) has been writing to the PM about it. Why the uproar now if PC toes the dynasty line?

Digvijay Singh takes war on saffron terror to PM
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CONs are playing good cop bad cop routine something they have been doing since Rajiv Gandhi times (babri masjid, shah bano, sikh riots), it appears as if PC is the chosen one to do the dirty work here, elsewhere the 'pup' is doing what Gandhi clan does best i.e. make fool of the tribals/down trodden by trying to portray GoI as evil and Gandhis as saviors (Vedanta) and eventually ask them to vote for the CONs during the election time. As long as majority of India is uneducated and struggles to make ends meet lowlifes like Gandhis will continue to thrive.

Kanson nice post.
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Simple Models to Explore Deterrence and More General Influence in the War with al-Qaeda
Simple, conceptual models can be used to help guide thinking about how to deter or to otherwise influence potential, actual, or disengaging terrorists and the many people who support their organizations directly or indirectly. Deterring terrorism is best approached as part of a broad effort to influence all elements of a terrorist system, and simple, conceptual models of decisionmaking can help in understanding how to affect others' behavior. The paper lays out a theory of how to use influence (including deterrence) to affect elements of a terrorist system, touching on root causes, individual motivation, public support, and likely factors in the decisionmaking of terrorist organizations.
http://www.rand.org/pubs/occasional_papers/OP296/
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ramana wrote:His bail has been reduced after they got convinced he is not a terrorist. Apparently he carries the knuckles for self protection in India. :(

Seems to be a lot of this going around.

Recently came across a well known swamy and his aide carrying licensed pistols on their persons.

The gentlemen were to board a chartered flight and were quietly asked to deposit their weapons in the cargo compartment. :-?
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Apparently you can bring firearms in if you are returning to India. Acquaintance of mine is taking his guns with him.
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Jnaneswari attack: CBI arrests two Rly trackmen http://www.zeenews.com/news651275.html

Kolkata: Suspecting some Railway employees’ role in the Jnaneswari Express sabotage, the Central Bureau of Investigation probing the case has arrested two trackmen.

One mobile phone, two SIM cards and three fake Railway identity cards have been recovered from the duo.

This is the first arrest of Railway personnel in connection with the case.

The arrests came a day after pro-Maoist leader Umakanta Mahato, a prime suspect in the Jnaneswari Express sabotage, was killed in an encounter with joint security forces in Jhargram area of West Bengal's West Midnapore district.

Mahato was the leader of tribal body People's Committee against Police Atrocities (PCPA), which has been blamed for causing the sabotage.

The CBI had announced a reward of Rs 1 lakh for information regarding Umakanta Mahato.

Mahato had been absconding since the May 28 train disaster, in which 148 people were killed after ultras removed the clips in around 50 metres of the track causing derailmemt of the Mumbai-bound train. Soon after, a freight train coming from the opposite direction rammed into the derailed coaches causing high casualties.

Another prime suspect, Bapi Mahato, has already been arrested. The third prime accused, Asit Mahato, has so far eluded the police dragnet.
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Sohrabuddin case: Geeta Johri accuses CBI of pressurising her http://sify.com/news/sohrabuddin-case-g ... gdhcd.html
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7 hurt in gang attack
Rafique (25) is battling for life with fatal injuries at KIMS hospital while Tahir (30), an advocate, has been admitted to Victoria Hospital.

According to police, the victims were raising donations for Ramzan when a few people picked up a quarrel and attacked them with lethal weapons. Within minutes, few unidentified persons brandishing clubs and lethal weapons went on rampage throwing stones on parked vehicles and ransacked a few shops.

They fled as the police rushed to the spot. According to sources, supporters of Arif Pasha, a former corporator allegedly attacked Popular Front of India members who were collecting donations. The other injured - Wasim Ahmad, Wasim, Imran, Mujahid and Tayyur, all aged between 25 and 30, are recovering. Several people gathered in front of the police station, demanding action against the accused. Complaint has been filed with the police.
The report caught my eye because of the mention of the PFI which seems to have spread its tentacles far and wide in Bengaluru.

( For the uninitiated, JJ nagar is a huge ghetto where people of a certain peaceful religion reside in large numbers and which is considered a "super sensitive location" in the city)
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Rajasthan firm says no foul play in ammo sales
RECL general manager, marketing, T K Sinha said the company had supplied explosives to Ganesh Magazine and Sangam Explosives in Madhya Pradesh on the basis of relevant documents required under the Indian Explosives Rules, 2008.
On the media reports that 61 trucks went missing in the first round, Sinha said it was actually 58 consignments sent on 22 trucks to Ganesh Magazine.

Similarly, the second report on 103 missing trucks was also inaccurate, as 103 consignments were sent on 27 trucks to Sangam Explosives.
Total of 49 trucks with 161 consignments. Still a huge amounts to mount a mini war in interiors of India.
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Modi on ‘Saffron terror’

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4SpnyNOFC8
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praveen swami tweet:

www.twitter.com/praveenswami
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sunnyP wrote:
Saffron terror a new phenomenon: Chidambaram

One wonders what PC's definition of 'many' is? :roll:
One of them could be "saffron"terror.
world's best quality saffron is grown in J&K. it is affected by the jihadi terror. :twisted: :evil:
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Regarding Saffron terror comment from PC -

PC is playing a massive game inside INC and I believe it is at this time extremely difficult to analyze because thing are very fluid. There are certain relationship churning happening inside TN with respect to INC and his fortunes will certainly have some changes. He is INC -> Manila INC (DMK side) -> INC with DMK. He was an inch away from BJP during NDA. If BJP had given him his favorite Finance he would have a saffron angavastram over him. Jaya hates PC like shit and there is a chance that INC may (a big maybe) go with ADMK. This is not in his interest. DMK is seriously thinking of severing ties with INC. INC in TN is pure and simple non existant but looting more seats from DMK and trying the same with ADMK. The game is exploit the desperation of the two Dravid parties.

There are certain undercurrents and PCs actions are INC-suspect actually determinental to Sonia system:
(1) Declaration of Telangana ( potential INC wipeout from the only big state where are on their own)
(2) Passing a "restriction of foreign funds" bill so quitely which can be potentially used agains EJ funds. This is so quite and there is no noise anywhere. A bill originated in 1970s and finalized during NDA and rusting for the last six years was passed by parl yesterday.

I agree with Stan regarding HM. INC is extremely bancurrupt at this time and there is no strong HM material other than Pranabda.
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Muppalla wrote: (2) Passing a "restriction of foreign funds" bill so quitely which can be potentially used agains EJ funds. This is so quite and there is no noise anywhere. A bill originated in 1970s and finalized during NDA and rusting for the last six years was passed by parl yesterday.
Which bill are you talking about? I see no signs of such a Bill from the Parliament website. Any pointers?!
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Stan I don't follow this space closely but fwiw may be following is what Muppalla ji was hinting at.

http://governancenow.com/news/regular-s ... nding-ngos
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^^ Thanks boss.
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Some digging up,
Loads of info on what our elected Parliamentarians know and dont know. See p. 62 to p. 116 on Uncorrected Debate at
http://164.100.47.132/newdebate/15/5/27 ... ullday.pdf

For those who are lazy,
http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=23453
http://164.100.47.5/newsite/bulletin2/B ... mber=47580
The Minister of State for Home Affairs, Sh. S. Regupathy introduced in the Rajya Sabha today the Foreign Contribution (Regulation) Bill, 2006. The Bill seeks to regulate the acceptance, utilization and accounting of foreign contribution and acceptance of foreign hospitality by a person or an association and repeal the existing Foreign Contribution (Regulation) Act, 1976 (FCRA).

The salient features of the Bill are as follows:
(i) The preamble has been reworded to prohibit acceptance and utilization of foreign contribution or foreign hospitality for any activities detrimental to the national interest.
(ii) Any amount received by any person from any foreign source by way of fee, payment in lieu of certain services rendered, etc. will be excluded from the definition of foreign contribution.
(iii) Organizations of political nature, not being political parties, will be placed in the prohibited category for accepting foreign contribution.
(iv) Association or company engaged in the production or broadcast of audio news or audio visual news or current affairs programmes through any electronic mode or any other mode of mass communication and correspondent or columnist, cartoonist, editor, owner of such Association or company will now be placed in prohibited category for accepting foreign contribution.
(v) Use of foreign contribution or any income arising out of it for speculative business will be proscribed.
(vi) Administrative expenses have been capped at fifty percent of the foreign contribution and any such expenses beyond that limit may be incurred only with the prior approval of the Central Government.
(vii) Provision is made to specify the persons who can and the areas where, the purpose for which, and the sources from which foreign contribution can be accepted only with prior permission of the Central Government.
(viii) Registration will be granted for a period of five years with a provision for automatic renewal for a period of five years to all applicants except those who are defaulters.
(ix) A specified fee will be charged for registration, grant of prior permission and renewal.
(x) Reasons for rejection of registration/prior permission will be conveyed to the applications to ensure greater transparency and accountability. This will be in harmony with the provisions laid down under the Right to Information Act, 2005.
(xi) Registration certificate can be suspended for a maximum period of 180 days.
(xii) Provisions have been made for cancellation of registration after giving reasonable opportunity for hearing.
(xiii) Foreign contribution will have to be received through a single band account. However, unlike the present Act, the recipient organization would be permitted to open one or more account in one or more Scheduled Banks to utilize the foreign contribution.
(xiv) Countrywide information/database about receipt of foreign remittances more than a specific amount, or suspicious transactions received by a person/association through banking channels shall be created, for keeping a watch over receipt and utilization of such foreign contributions.
(xv) Registration received by fraud, misrepresentation or false documents have been made punishable with imprisonment up to 5 years.
(xvi) Provision has been made for disposal of assets created out of foreign contribution of defunct/inoperative organizations as per the prescribed procedure.
(xvii) Provision has been made for compounding of certain offences under the Bill.

It is expected that the new law and its effective implementation thorough utilization of tools of information and communication technology (ICT) will put in place a more efficient system to regulate the acceptance, utilization and accounting of foreign contribution in the country by ensuring greater accountability, transparency and simplification.
As expected, Foreign Contribution (Regulation) Bill slammed
http://thestatesman.net/index.php?optio ... 7&catid=42
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TOI -
Rajdhani derails near Kolkata, sabotage not ruled out
PTI, Aug 30, 2010, 11.36am IST

KOLKATA: Passengers of the Howrah-bound Rajdhani Express escaped unhurt on Monday when the engine derailed at a station in Hooghly district with the Railways not ruling out sabotage as 300 pandoral clips on the tracks were found removed.

The New Delhi-Howrah Rajdhani Express was at a slow speed while it was passing through a platform of the Baruipara station, around 27 km from Kolkata, when two front wheels of the engine jumped the tracks, Eastern railway CPRO Samir Goswami said.

None of the coaches were affected by the derailment, which occurred at around 9:15 am, he said.

Eastern Railway sources had earlier said that two coaches had also derailed.

"Since none of the coaches were affected there was no casualty or injury," the CPRO said.
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Stan_Savljevic wrote:As expected, Foreign Contribution (Regulation) Bill slammed
http://thestatesman.net/index.php?optio ... 7&catid=42
It was slammed in the past. I got the following in email. The beauty is that it is passed so quitely that a lot of folks does not even could dream a bill like this could be passed by UPA. Now we can see a lot FIRs in Naxal areas and also certain southern cites. Along with this bill there are certain actions by Chidu that makes him a chess player inside INC. Something is really cooking and I couldn't analyze completely about it.
Mon, 19 Sep 2005 11:28:58 -0700Christian Team Meets Sonia Gandhi, Express Concern Over FCRA BillBy SAR NEWS NEW DELHI/BANGALORE, (SAR NEWS) -- Christian have expressed their strong reservations to certain provisions relating to the Foreign Currency RemittanceManagement Control Bill (FCRA), which is likely to be introduced in Parliamentin its next session.A delegation comprising the president of the Federation Of Christian Associations of North America, Bernard Malik, George Abraham, and nationalconvener of the Global Council of Indian Christians, Sajan K. George, met theIndian National Congress party president and chairperson of the United Progressive Alliance Government, Sonia Gandhi, in New Delhi, September 17, andshared their concern with her of Christians and other minorities in India whofeel that they could be the target of the new FCRA provisions.

They said the proposed clauses in the Bill were “subjective and could bearbitrarily interpreted by a registration authority to penalise Christiancharitable institutions that are doing essential social service among the needy and downtrodden.”“Clause 12 (grant of certificate) and certain other clauses are mischievous andthe provisions can lead to communal tension or disharmony if any Christian groupconducts prayer meetings or holds conferences or conventions,” the delegation said.The delegation pointed out that the unnecessary insertion of the word“conversion” in an important Bill like this appeared to stigmatise the Christiancommunity and stop humanitarian and faith-related activities in future. “We believe that the Bill drafted by the previous Hindu radical government showsvery little sensitivity to the freedom of conscience as enshrined in the Indianconstitution and Universal Declaration of Human Rights,” they said.

The Christian representatives said that if the became a law it would providefodder to extremist right to further persecute the law-abiding andservice-minded persons in the Christian community. “A possible change in federal government with Hindu radicals may put many Christian charitable institutionsout of business and millions of innocents lives would be in jeopardy,” they toldMs. Gandhi.The team also apprised Ms. Gandhi of the plight of Dalit Christians “who are struggling to secure parity with Dalits of other faiths in economic and socialreservations offered by the government.” They pleaded with Ms. Gandhi to take afavourable stand for the cause of the Dalits when the matter comes before the Supreme Court of India.
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Muppalla wrote:
Stan_Savljevic wrote:As expected, Foreign Contribution (Regulation) Bill slammed
http://thestatesman.net/index.php?optio ... 7&catid=42
It was slammed in the past. I got the following in email. The beauty is that it is passed so quitely that a lot of folks does not even could dream a bill like this could be passed by UPA. Now we can see a lot FIRs in Naxal areas and also certain southern cites. Along with this bill there are certain actions by Chidu that makes him a chess player inside INC. Something is really cooking and I couldn't analyze completely about it.
This bill has a past. In 1976 it is version 1.0 where not much regulation on foreign funding for ej stuff was discussed. But this bill which is 2006 version, is really good. A good read about this bill on mha website gives a lot of leverage to shut down foreign funding for ej activity by govt machinery and even activists.
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stan saab,

fcra bill was passed in Lok Sabha on 27th aug.

http://164.100.47.132/bull1/15/V/27.8.2010.pdf
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ramana wrote:.....Poor guy thinks he is next in line in case MMS takes retirement as a prelude to Rahul baba. So he has to make his secular credentials strong. Its all political theater and par for the course...
lol...he'll be PVN/Arjun Singh types tomorrow...same applies to MMS, AK and all other non-gandhi fellas in INC.
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