Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 2010
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
So, what is the BRF Chankian spin on this latest offer of GoI agreeing to route Indian taxpayer money through the UN since since beggars cant tolerate the Indian name?Government sources have told NDTV that Pakistan has refused to accept flood aid directly from India.
Islamabad wants the aid routed through the United Nations. Government sources indicate that the $5 million in aid will be sent to the UN.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
It the Indian AID is to be routed through the UN. Then it is better that no AID is sent to TSP
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don't want to nitpick on this but I sometimes feel that instead of pointing out that MMS and his types did this & did that...we should try to shape the real intent of such decisions(BRF is capable of that)....AFAIK taking these decisions are not one man show as many of us think that MMS alone calls the shots in the interest of US/paki...it has to satisfy many brains(MMS types and nationalist types) for a decision to be made...It is beyond my understanding how these few decision makers let 5 million USD go to pakis through UN for nothing(??)archan wrote:....Well I don't know... desis might have negotiated some favor from unkil in return but who knows. I'd not wonder much on it because it won't be long before the dreaded c-word comes out in this thread.

On the contrary...recent decision of snapping defense ties with china is very clear as crystal....
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Back to Google News
Pakistan floods just one of its water woes
By TIM SULLIVAN (AP) – 56 minutes ago
SHIKARPUR, Pakistan — Thousands of farmers have crowded this once-quiet Pakistani town. They live on the hospital's lawn, they camp on overpasses. Their fields are destroyed, covered by billions of gallons of brown soupy floodwater.
But ask those farmers about their water troubles and they'll tell you flooding is just the most recent chapter.
"There is not enough water. We don't have enough for the crops," said Zubair Ahmed, a tenant farmer who came here after floods swept through his village and destroyed his fields. "Except for this year," he added, without any irony. "This year it is different."
This country, with its network of rivers that flow into the mighty Indus, struggles daily with water issues — too little, too much, in the wrong place — and rain is important to more than just farmers.
Around here, rainfall has long been reflected in economics, politics, diplomacy and social stability — and even Pakistan admits it wasn't as prepared as it could have been for the flooding.
"We are the victims of both extremes," said Shams ul Mulk, the former head of Pakistan's Ministry of Water and Power. "We are the victims of scarcity and we are the victims of surpluses."
A month into the worst floods in the country's history, there was no respite Saturday.
The swollen Indus River smashed another break early Saturday in the levees that protect the southern city of Thatta and numerous nearby villages. That sent thousands more people fleeing for high ground, crowding the roads and leaving the city of 175,000 nearly empty.
Thousands of flood victims sought shelter on the high ground of a sprawling centuries-old cemetery outside Thatta. Many were furious at the shortage of help, and how aid came in the form of bags of food being tossed from trucks.
"The people who come here to give us food treat us like beggars. They just throw the food. It is humiliating," said 80-year-old Karima, who uses only one name, and who was living in the graveyard with more than two dozen relatives.
Almost 17.2 million people have been significantly affected by the floods and about 1.2 million homes have been destroyed or badly damaged, the U.N. has said. About 1,500 people have died. At one point, an area the size of Italy was believed to be underwater, much of it farmland.
The scale of the crisis quickly overwhelmed authorities, with the government's painfully slow response leading to fears of unrest. While there has been no widespread violence, flood victims have repeatedly blocked roads through the flooded regions demanding more help.
The country's finances, though, will take a major blow: Farming is a pillar of the Pakistani economy, making up some 23 percent of the gross domestic product and supporting millions of families. Officials expect the agricultural costs from the floods to reach into the billions of dollars.
The floods' effects also will go far beyond the time when the waters recede.
Even Islamabad acknowledges it needs massive repairs to its enormous water irrigation network, which stretches across thousands of miles (kilometers). About 80 percent of the country's farmers are dependent on irrigation to nourish their crops.
Experts say only about one-third of the water that flows through the country's irrigation system actually reaches the crops.
"It's just dirt ditches most of the time," said Dr. Daanish Mustafa, a geographer at King's College, London who has studied Pakistan's water use and said simply lining the irrigation channels to decrease leakage could result in enormous water savings.
"It doesn't need billions of dollars, it doesn't need armies of laborers," said Mustafa.
He noted Pakistan also faces a special challenge with the Indus River, the heart of its water network. With 80 percent of precipitation coming in just two months during the annual monsoons, and a heavy silt content, the river can quickly overrun its banks.
"Pakistan's misfortune is they are dealing with a freak of a river," he said.
For years, foreign donors have been trying to help Pakistan tame that freak.
The United States has said improving the country's water management will be a key plank of its $7.5 billion assistance package to the country over the next five years. Before the floods, it was planning a raft of projects to improve irrigation.
Those plans are even more relevant now, said Rajiv Shah, administrator of the U.S. Agency for International Development. "They need a system that can manage" both flooding and low rainfall, he said.
The floods also raised worries in Pakistan that India — this country's chief rival — could worsen the problem by draining its rain-swollen rivers into Pakistan.
Normally, the situation is reversed, with Pakistan complaining that India is withholding water.
Under a 1960 agreement, the two countries are supposed to share the use of the six rivers that irrigate the Pakistani agricultural heartland. India, though, controls the source of those rivers, leading to regular cross-border accusations, as Islamabad charges that New Delhi is taking more than its share, and New Delhi alleging Pakistan's poor infrastructure leads to massive water waste.
Associated Press writer Nahal Toosi in Islamabad contributed to this report.
Pakistan floods just one of its water woes
By TIM SULLIVAN (AP) – 56 minutes ago
SHIKARPUR, Pakistan — Thousands of farmers have crowded this once-quiet Pakistani town. They live on the hospital's lawn, they camp on overpasses. Their fields are destroyed, covered by billions of gallons of brown soupy floodwater.
But ask those farmers about their water troubles and they'll tell you flooding is just the most recent chapter.
"There is not enough water. We don't have enough for the crops," said Zubair Ahmed, a tenant farmer who came here after floods swept through his village and destroyed his fields. "Except for this year," he added, without any irony. "This year it is different."
This country, with its network of rivers that flow into the mighty Indus, struggles daily with water issues — too little, too much, in the wrong place — and rain is important to more than just farmers.
Around here, rainfall has long been reflected in economics, politics, diplomacy and social stability — and even Pakistan admits it wasn't as prepared as it could have been for the flooding.
"We are the victims of both extremes," said Shams ul Mulk, the former head of Pakistan's Ministry of Water and Power. "We are the victims of scarcity and we are the victims of surpluses."
A month into the worst floods in the country's history, there was no respite Saturday.
The swollen Indus River smashed another break early Saturday in the levees that protect the southern city of Thatta and numerous nearby villages. That sent thousands more people fleeing for high ground, crowding the roads and leaving the city of 175,000 nearly empty.
Thousands of flood victims sought shelter on the high ground of a sprawling centuries-old cemetery outside Thatta. Many were furious at the shortage of help, and how aid came in the form of bags of food being tossed from trucks.
"The people who come here to give us food treat us like beggars. They just throw the food. It is humiliating," said 80-year-old Karima, who uses only one name, and who was living in the graveyard with more than two dozen relatives.
Almost 17.2 million people have been significantly affected by the floods and about 1.2 million homes have been destroyed or badly damaged, the U.N. has said. About 1,500 people have died. At one point, an area the size of Italy was believed to be underwater, much of it farmland.
The scale of the crisis quickly overwhelmed authorities, with the government's painfully slow response leading to fears of unrest. While there has been no widespread violence, flood victims have repeatedly blocked roads through the flooded regions demanding more help.
The country's finances, though, will take a major blow: Farming is a pillar of the Pakistani economy, making up some 23 percent of the gross domestic product and supporting millions of families. Officials expect the agricultural costs from the floods to reach into the billions of dollars.
The floods' effects also will go far beyond the time when the waters recede.
Even Islamabad acknowledges it needs massive repairs to its enormous water irrigation network, which stretches across thousands of miles (kilometers). About 80 percent of the country's farmers are dependent on irrigation to nourish their crops.
Experts say only about one-third of the water that flows through the country's irrigation system actually reaches the crops.
"It's just dirt ditches most of the time," said Dr. Daanish Mustafa, a geographer at King's College, London who has studied Pakistan's water use and said simply lining the irrigation channels to decrease leakage could result in enormous water savings.
"It doesn't need billions of dollars, it doesn't need armies of laborers," said Mustafa.
He noted Pakistan also faces a special challenge with the Indus River, the heart of its water network. With 80 percent of precipitation coming in just two months during the annual monsoons, and a heavy silt content, the river can quickly overrun its banks.
"Pakistan's misfortune is they are dealing with a freak of a river," he said.
For years, foreign donors have been trying to help Pakistan tame that freak.
The United States has said improving the country's water management will be a key plank of its $7.5 billion assistance package to the country over the next five years. Before the floods, it was planning a raft of projects to improve irrigation.
Those plans are even more relevant now, said Rajiv Shah, administrator of the U.S. Agency for International Development. "They need a system that can manage" both flooding and low rainfall, he said.
The floods also raised worries in Pakistan that India — this country's chief rival — could worsen the problem by draining its rain-swollen rivers into Pakistan.
Normally, the situation is reversed, with Pakistan complaining that India is withholding water.
Under a 1960 agreement, the two countries are supposed to share the use of the six rivers that irrigate the Pakistani agricultural heartland. India, though, controls the source of those rivers, leading to regular cross-border accusations, as Islamabad charges that New Delhi is taking more than its share, and New Delhi alleging Pakistan's poor infrastructure leads to massive water waste.
Associated Press writer Nahal Toosi in Islamabad contributed to this report.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
These guys never anticipated a deluge like this. most of the bridges in SWAT are broken. the timber mafia hand in hand with the taliban, had hidden about 2.5 mn cubic feet of stolen wood, in the ravines surrounding SWAT. the result , the flood water carried them away. imagine flood water pounding bridges with wood logs? the bridges were lost. the entire wood is now inside Tarbela irretrievable. the Chinese engineers played around with the glaciers too. some say it is the widening of the Karakhoram road, some say, they were mining the Uranium in Sumayar valley. But someone played with the Glaciers.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
Singha wrote: Pakistan floods just one of its water woes
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Even Islamabad acknowledges it needs massive repairs to its enormous water irrigation network, which stretches across thousands of miles (kilometers). About 80 percent of the country's farmers are dependent on irrigation to nourish their crops.
Experts say only about one-third of the water that flows through the country's irrigation system actually reaches the crops.
"It's just dirt ditches most of the time," said Dr. Daanish Mustafa, a geographer at King's College, London who has studied Pakistan's water use and said simply lining the irrigation channels to decrease leakage could result in enormous water savings.
"It doesn't need billions of dollars, it doesn't need armies of laborers," said Mustafa.
He noted Pakistan also faces a special challenge with the Indus River, the heart of its water network. With 80 percent of precipitation coming in just two months during the annual monsoons, and a heavy silt content, the river can quickly overrun its banks.
"Pakistan's misfortune is they are dealing with a freak of a river," he said.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
China deploys 11,000 troops in Gilgit area in Pakistan occupied Kashmir
NYT changing tunes.
In a quiet move, China has deployed about 11,000 troops in the strategic Gilgit-Baltistan region in Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK) to take de-facto control of the key area, where a rebellion is simmering against the Pakistani rule.
Coupled with support for Taliban, Islamabad's collusion in facilitating China's access to the Gulf makes it clear that Pakistan is not a US "ally", the New York Times said.
The paper said that there was widespread brutally suppressed local movements for democratic rights and regional autonomy in both Gilgit and Baltistan, where Sunni Jihadi groups allied with the Pakistani army have systematically terrorised the local Shia Muslims.
"Gilgit and Baltistan are in fact under military rule," the paper said, pointing out that the local people are aspiring for legislature and others institutions without restrictions like those imposed in other parts of PoK.
similar to earlier article by wa post editorIn comparison, the paper said, India gives more power to the state government in Kashmir; elections there are widely regarded as fair, and open discussion of demands for autonomy is permitted.
NYT changing tunes.

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Where was this wa post article posted? Couldn't find it.krisna wrote: similar to earlier article by wa post editor
NYT changing tunes.
I liked Selig Harrison's piece, but her refers to POK as "Azad" Kashmir or "Free" Kashmir. Thats annoying. Plus, he calls for autonomy with the KM perverts. You give the mofos autonomy, next thing you know, Hafeez Saeed, Kiyani, and Paasha will be honored guests at the J&K legislature.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
Menon ji,These guys never anticipated a deluge like this. most of the bridges in SWAT are broken. the timber mafia hand in hand with the taliban, had hidden about 2.5 mn cubic feet of stolen wood, in the ravines surrounding SWAT. the result , the flood water carried them away. imagine flood water pounding bridges with wood logs? the bridges were lost. the entire wood is now inside Tarbela irretrievable. the Chinese engineers played around with the glaciers too. some say it is the widening of the Karakhoram road, some say, they were mining the Uranium in Sumayar valley. But someone played with the Glaciers.
who ever you are and whatever your sources are....your posts do have weight in it. who knows..these bits and pieces of info may give a shape tomorrow...Please keep them coming as long as you are safe.

Regards.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
God Dammit it!! What the hell....Government sources have told NDTV that Pakistan has refused to accept flood aid directly from India.
Islamabad wants the aid routed through the United Nations. Government sources indicate that the $5 million in aid will be sent to the UN.
I wonder whether the people who invent Chanakyan Theories to shield our Dear Leader went. If Pakis are masters in Conspiracy Theories some people here are masters in imaginary Chanakyan Theories.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
An insightful reply from inside Pakistan.
1. In hunting terminology it is said that once a tiger or a lion tastes human blood it becomes lazy , no longer hunts and prefers human flesh which is far easier a pray.Similarly Pakistan's generals have tasted the blood of their own people.They have been blinded by real estate and mega deals.Its difficult that they would abandon man eating.
2.This does not mean that the paki generals are invincible.History will take its course.Pakistan will be Balkanised because it is a failed state.This process may take up to two decades.Pakistan's army will outlast Pakistan and the potohar mercenaries will serve the Americans and even the Indians as loyally as they served the brits.
1. In hunting terminology it is said that once a tiger or a lion tastes human blood it becomes lazy , no longer hunts and prefers human flesh which is far easier a pray.Similarly Pakistan's generals have tasted the blood of their own people.They have been blinded by real estate and mega deals.Its difficult that they would abandon man eating.
2.This does not mean that the paki generals are invincible.History will take its course.Pakistan will be Balkanised because it is a failed state.This process may take up to two decades.Pakistan's army will outlast Pakistan and the potohar mercenaries will serve the Americans and even the Indians as loyally as they served the brits.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
News like these should in fact do heavy rounds in Indian media and J&K news channels especially....sane minds of Kashmir gets some food for thought.krisna wrote:[url=http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_ch ... ir_1430066]
where a rebellion is simmering against the Pakistani rule
widespread brutally suppressed local movements
"Gilgit and Baltistan are in fact under military rule,"
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
yeah the same Selig Harrison-was the former South Asia bureau chief of The Washington Post. It was posted in hereCRamS wrote:Where was this wa post article posted? Couldn't find it.krisna wrote: similar to earlier article by wa post editor
NYT changing tunes.
I liked Selig Harrison's piece, but her refers to POK as "Azad" Kashmir or "Free" Kashmir. Thats annoying. Plus, he calls for autonomy with the KM perverts. You give the mofos autonomy, next thing you know, Hafeez Saeed, Kiyani, and Paasha will be honored guests at the J&K legislature.
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Instead of beating around the bush, the most dignified thing for India to do would be for MMS to call up Kiyani's mouthpieces Gilani or Quereshi or whoever and quitelt tell them that India is ready to help if TSP wants, and convey his sympathies at the flood damage. Thats it. As we all know, while flood damage has been extensive, most of the affected were SDREs for whom TFTA Pakijabis and USA will shed some crocodile tears, but are expendable as long as Pakijabi terrorists are preserved. Also, there was nothing much in affected areas to begin with, so WTF is all this "extensive damage" about. TSP is milking its 3.5 for what its worth. I think Babus, RAW etc in India know this, and hence lack of any overwhelming sympathy except for WKKs; and more importantly, I don't sense any relief among India's security establishment that TSP has been broght to its knees as a result of the floods. They probably know the game that is going on.
For sure, TSP can afford to play these games because it can afford to do away with the $5 million India offered; its 3.5 are offering many hundred times more than that. Plus, to deliver another one of its customary kick on India's sheen, TSP has sent another dossier asking for info on Headly. Kiyani & Paasha are having a ball.
For sure, TSP can afford to play these games because it can afford to do away with the $5 million India offered; its 3.5 are offering many hundred times more than that. Plus, to deliver another one of its customary kick on India's sheen, TSP has sent another dossier asking for info on Headly. Kiyani & Paasha are having a ball.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
Spot on. Absolute reality demonstration of how big dogs play. It is a pittance of $5 million for an established whore. For truly needy ones, any amount will be gratefully accepted and acknowledged. But an established whore has other major clientele to worry about.CRamS wrote: For sure, TSP can afford to play these games because it can afford to do away with the $5 million India offered; its 3.5 are offering many hundred times more than that. Plus, to deliver another one of its customary kick on India's sheen, TSP has sent another dossier asking for info on Headly. Kiyani & Paasha are having a ball.
P.S. If one is like dragon, one would exclusively route that kind of 5 million dollahs to specific jihadis in uniform, to do its bidding. A few select jihadis in uniform will find 5 million dollahs quite substantial. Did I hear something about humanitarian... endeavor?

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
menon s wrote:These guys never anticipated a deluge like this. most of the bridges in SWAT are broken. the timber mafia hand in hand with the taliban, had hidden about 2.5 mn cubic feet of stolen wood, in the ravines surrounding SWAT. the result , the flood water carried them away. imagine flood water pounding bridges with wood logs? the bridges were lost. the entire wood is now inside Tarbela irretrievable. the Chinese engineers played around with the glaciers too. some say it is the widening of the Karakhoram road, some say, they were mining the Uranium in Sumayar valley. But someone played with the Glaciers.
Menon this is interesting and I havent seen this in much news but in early photos of flood in KP I remember seeing pictures of people collecting (looks like looting actually) logs from the banks of flooded river. I even showed the picture to my friend telling him how logs (used for paper mills not furniture) are usually transported downstream using free flow of the river.
if this is true then most probably this was the cause of breaking of bridges in KP region for sure because in NYtimes photo of flooded areas majority of the broken bridges are in KP where the rivers break into flat terrain. The force of water (due to its downstream flow from the nearby mountains and large water quantity due to flood) would have lend enormous force to the floating logs to break the bridges. More importantly in KP the water doesnt have much flat terrain to expand like flat plains of sindh or punjab.
I need to find the picture and NYtimes snapshot of flooding which gives the details of broken bridges
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
They are like North Korea, holding the population hostage while playing their power games.
They are modern day Neros, laughing and playing the fiddle while their country burns.
This is what happens when you give a rogue state nuclear weapons.
They are modern day Neros, laughing and playing the fiddle while their country burns.
This is what happens when you give a rogue state nuclear weapons.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
MMS should send back the mangoes to paki high commission and ask them to route it via UN or even better ask gillani to shub it up kiyanahi's musharraf
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
Interesting info. Is it verifiable ?menon s wrote:These guys never anticipated a deluge like this. most of the bridges in SWAT are broken. the timber mafia hand in hand with the taliban, had hidden about 2.5 mn cubic feet of stolen wood, in the ravines surrounding SWAT. the result , the flood water carried them away. imagine flood water pounding bridges with wood logs? the bridges were lost. the entire wood is now inside Tarbela irretrievable. the Chinese engineers played around with the glaciers too. some say it is the widening of the Karakhoram road, some say, they were mining the Uranium in Sumayar valley. But someone played with the Glaciers.
How about Google Earth ?
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
If MMS is real chankiya. He would route all the water flowing from India to paquis thru UN. Let UN pick up
all the buckets from India & send it to paqis....
Since we all know what happen with UN oil scam, all the water will be lost in UN hawala
all the buckets from India & send it to paqis....
Since we all know what happen with UN oil scam, all the water will be lost in UN hawala
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
Pakistan has no qualms cocking a snook at India's aid offer, because they're spoiled little crooks.
I'm reminded of a Tom and Jerry cartoon I saw as a child, where they are sitting poolside on the edge of a desert, when a desperately thirsty man comes crawling out of the desert, crying "water! water!"
They immediately hand him a can of soda pop, and he frowns at it, saying, "Cherry-lime? I don't like Cherry-lime, don't you have grape?"
Oh look, they've translated it:
I'm reminded of a Tom and Jerry cartoon I saw as a child, where they are sitting poolside on the edge of a desert, when a desperately thirsty man comes crawling out of the desert, crying "water! water!"
They immediately hand him a can of soda pop, and he frowns at it, saying, "Cherry-lime? I don't like Cherry-lime, don't you have grape?"
Oh look, they've translated it:
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
.Psyop to " Evoak" sympathy for Poak
U.N. Fears For Children as Pakistan Floods Threaten Town
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2010/08/ ... .html?_r=1
U.N. Fears For Children as Pakistan Floods Threaten Town
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2010/08/ ... .html?_r=1
Even before the floods, Pakistan's economy was fragile. Growth, forecast at 4.5 percent this fiscal year, is now predicted at anything between zero and 3 percent.The floods have damaged at least 3.2 million hectares (7.9 million acres) -- about 14 percent of Pakistan's entire cultivated land -- according to the United Nation's food agency.The total cost in crop damages is believed to be about 245 billion rupees ($2.86 billion).
"DEADLY SYNERGY"
Authorities have been battling for days to save the town of Shahdadkot in northern Sindh's rice-growing belt, raising an embankment several kilometers long as the water has crept higher.
The flood barrier was still holding, Soomro said.The United Nations said aid workers were becoming increasingly worried about disease and hunger, especially among children in areas where even before the disaster, acute malnutrition was high."We fear the deadly synergy of waterborne diseases, including diarrhea, dehydration and malnutrition," senior UNICEF official Karen Allen said in a statement.U.N. humanitarian coordinator Martin Mogwanja said the international response to the disaster must be more assertive."If nothing is done, an estimated 72,000 children, currently affected by severe malnutrition in the flood-affected areas, are at high risk of death," he said.
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Apologies if posted earlier ... I'm sure nothing new for BRF-ites here ...
Is Pakistan exaggerating flood damage?
However, the most interesting piece of the article ...

Is Pakistan exaggerating flood damage?
However, the most interesting piece of the article ...
Chipanda knows its servants well ...Only China, which apparently suspected that the Pakistani authorities were inflating the estimate of damages suffered, refrained from increasing its pledge beyond the initial amount of $ 10 million.
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Well, the dude from dejert is bious, he follows the truest religion and hails from the purest of pure nation. He is entitledSanjay M wrote:I'm reminded of a Tom and Jerry cartoon I saw as a child, where they are sitting poolside on the edge of a desert, when a desperately thirsty man comes crawling out of the desert, crying "water! water!"
They immediately hand him a can of soda pop, and he frowns at it, saying, "Cherry-lime? I don't like Cherry-lime, don't you have grape?"
Oh look, they've translated it:

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
Pakis can kiss goodbye to Gilgit-Baltistan because China is most likely to keep it with them. Chinese love land for free and are always in lookout for it. Chinese are occupying the lands of their neighbors all around their borders and beyound.krisna wrote:China deploys 11,000 troops in Gilgit area in Pakistan occupied KashmirIn a quiet move, China has deployed about 11,000 troops in the strategic Gilgit-Baltistan region in Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK) to take de-facto control of the key area, where a rebellion is simmering against the Pakistani rule.
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Extra nutty editorial in the nutty nation....even more nuttier than the usual claptrap...
[url=http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... -uncovered]India uncovered[url]
Published: August 28, 2010
[url=http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... -uncovered]India uncovered[url]
Published: August 28, 2010
THE latest WikiLeaks have thrown a fresh but garish light on the Mumbai attacks, which India has used as an excuse to wriggle out of talks with Pakistan, particularly on the core issue of Kashmir. The WikiLeaks were on the overall theme of why the USA is accused of promoting terrorism worldwide, but they also threw fresh light on the Mumbai incidents, showing that the USA’s CIA was behind them, something which had not previously gained much currency in public.
This not only makes nonsense of the public American stand on the attacks, but also implies that it was fully aware that Pakistan was not involved in the attack when it took place. It also means that India is speciously involving Pakistan, and it is not accusing the USA, with which it is desperately trying to curry favour. The latest WikiLeaks have shown that after 9/11, the CIA, in continuance of its policy of carrying out operations in other countries, executed a number of operations, one of them the Mumbai attacks. Another operation was the gunning down by American Jew Baruch Goldstein of Palestinians at prayer, in which 29 were martyred. This incident not only shows that the CIA is careless of lives of victim peoples, but is also actively anti-Muslim. This anti-Muslim bias helps explain its decision to cooperate in the Mumbai attacks, with their consequent ill effects on Pakistan.
India’s knowledge of what the USA was doing allowed it to present a hypocritical fake front of refusal to proceed with talks until Pakistan cooperated. The revelations also explain why the USA so early, and so consistently, backed the Indian version of events, even though it was patently false. This entire episode once again shows that the government’s courting of India to placate the USA is based on a false belief in American and Indian goodwill. While they are engaged in bloody conspiracies, Pakistan should not only refuse to persuade India for talks, but also end its cooperation in the USA’s War on Terror, which it is using against Pakistan in such an obvious fashion.
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Okay, let me try!sum wrote:So, what is the BRF Chankian spin on this latest offer of GoI agreeing to route Indian taxpayer money through the UN since since beggars cant tolerate the Indian name?Government sources have told NDTV that Pakistan has refused to accept flood aid directly from India.
Islamabad wants the aid routed through the United Nations. Government sources indicate that the $5 million in aid will be sent to the UN.![]()
Regardless of whether we give them directly or route it through UN, it doesn't make a difference, because all Indians who would be visiting Pakistani websites, would never tire of telling them, that they are beggars and we gave them 5 million USD so their bhookhe-nange could survive. And every time they open their mouths to criticize India, Indians would again come up with how they caused Mumbai 26/11 and we helped them with 5 million USD and that they are the most ungrateful lot in the world and they should be ashamed of themselves.
MMS is helping the Pakistanis for the benefit of all the Internet warriors from Desh onlee!

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I see that the c-word has indeed come out after my post. 

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
India should take this literally. Any plane flying over India from East with aid to TSP should also be diverted first to UN HQ.sum wrote:Government sources have told NDTV that Pakistan has refused to accept flood aid directly from India.
Islamabad wants the aid routed through the United Nations. Government sources indicate that the $5 million in aid will be sent to the UN.
Pakistan may need Aid, but Pakistaniat needs AIDS.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
Jernail Ashphuck is visiting Saudi Barbaria to meet "senior Saudi leadership and discuss the over all situation of the country"
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
Pakistan's Chinese built tunnels exposed. This is a google earth image dated May 31 2010 of the Hopar glacier with the tunnels and roads under construction. One tunnel is seen complete with a road going into it.
As mentioned elsewhere by someone who has access to 'Cartosat 2B' imagery, the tunnels and the roads are bang on the edge of the Glacier, not a very brilliant idea, whoever planned this. If this is a military installation, any attack on the area will cause the glacier to become unstable, and the tunnels to collapse in the ensuing landslides. As it is the area's geology doesn't seem to be solid rock, but more like sandy and rocky in bits.




As mentioned elsewhere by someone who has access to 'Cartosat 2B' imagery, the tunnels and the roads are bang on the edge of the Glacier, not a very brilliant idea, whoever planned this. If this is a military installation, any attack on the area will cause the glacier to become unstable, and the tunnels to collapse in the ensuing landslides. As it is the area's geology doesn't seem to be solid rock, but more like sandy and rocky in bits.




Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
Xxxxaggerated irrigationshiv wrote:Shreeman wrote:This is nothing more than exaggerated irrigation.![]()
Brilliant! It may well turn out to be exaggerated irrigation. Now wait for the exaggerated drought next year. What would we do without Pakistan?

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
More humiliation for the Pakis
This 'middle man' claimed to have 4 Paki cricketers in his pocket.
Arrest over Pakistan-England cricket 'betting scam'

This 'middle man' claimed to have 4 Paki cricketers in his pocket.
Arrest over Pakistan-England cricket 'betting scam'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11122388A man has been arrested in connection with an alleged cricket betting scam carried out during the current test between Pakistan and England at Lord's.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
Thanks, Archan saheb...its working, thanks to YYY IT support, it waas RAAW kanspiracy onlee.archan wrote: Probably has to do with your browser/operating system/flash plugin. If you need help with that, please post in the IT/Linux thread.
That video is indeed worth a watch!![]()
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
Gaganullah,
Great analysis !
Salam.
Great analysis !
I pray to Allah that the evil yindutvawaadis dont find this.Gagan wrote:If this is a military installation, any attack on the area will cause the glacier to become unstable, and the tunnels to collapse in the ensuing landslides. As it is the area's geology doesn't seem to be solid rock, but more like sandy and rocky in bits.
Salam.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
More on pacqui match fixingsunnyP wrote:More humiliation for the Pakis![]()
This 'middle man' claimed to have 4 Paki cricketers in his pocket.
Arrest over Pakistan-England cricket 'betting scam'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11122388A man has been arrested in connection with an alleged cricket betting scam carried out during the current test between Pakistan and England at Lord's.
Pakis, as usual, being pakis. No one in this world wants to play them at their home now who'd wanna play them abroad..In a video secretly recorded during the NOTW investigation, a man alleged to be Mazher is clearly heard predicting that Amir would bowl the first over of the England innings, and that he would deliver a no-ball from the first ball of the third over - which as Cricinfo's ball-by-ball commentary noted: "was an enormous no-ball, good half a metre over the line."The man also appeared to correctly predict a no-ball from the sixth ball of the tenth over, bowled this time by Asif.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-ocsNruW6Q
Food - Fighting for food in Pakistan
Show this video to all the Paquies in the youtube and other forums
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MssTXA_ouY
This is bad for American troops stationed in Afghanistan the supply routes are covered with water. Supply routes and cargo need to be changed and it has become harder for American troops to recieve there supplies. The situation can become explosive politically either domestically or internationally with India.
Bridge breaking from flood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA9Hm7H6pmo
Food - Fighting for food in Pakistan
Show this video to all the Paquies in the youtube and other forums
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MssTXA_ouY
This is bad for American troops stationed in Afghanistan the supply routes are covered with water. Supply routes and cargo need to be changed and it has become harder for American troops to recieve there supplies. The situation can become explosive politically either domestically or internationally with India.
Bridge breaking from flood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA9Hm7H6pmo
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
Pakistani players collecting donation for flood victims:


http://www.cricinfo.com/england-v-pakis ... 74890.html
The fourth Test between England and Pakistan at Lord's is at the centre of a police investigation into spot-fixing, after a 35-year-old man was arrested after allegedly being caught offering to bribe Pakistan's bowlers to bowl no-balls on demand.
According to a report in The News of the World, Mazher Majeed accepted £150,000 to arrange a fix involving Pakistan's new-ball bowlers, Mohammad Amir and Mohammad Asif, whom he allegedly asked to bowl no-balls at specific moments of the match. The paper also alleges that the team captain, Salman Butt, and the wicketkeeper, Kamran Akmal, are involved, along with three other unnamed cricketers.
In a video secretly recorded during the NOTW investigation, a man alleged to be Mazher is clearly heard predicting that Amir would bowl the first over of the England innings, and that he would deliver a no-ball from the first ball of the third over - which as Cricinfo's ball-by-ball commentary noted: "was an enormous no-ball, good half a metre over the line."The man also appeared to correctly predict a no-ball from the sixth ball of the tenth over, bowled this time by Asif.
A Scotland Yard spokeman said: "Following information received from the News of the World we have today [Saturday, August 28] arrested a 35-year old man on suspicion of conspiracy to defraud bookmakers."
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20
The photos were taken in May which is summer month in Subcontinent. What happpens in winters? Does the glacier moves back and covers the whole area? In this case area will become inaccessible in winters or would need constant work to maintain access.
This also assumes that Global warming is true
..that the glacier is not moving back to the original length in future.
This seems like something built to protect TSPA crown jewels (if they are there in the first place) or ensure that someone can get them from China when in need through a to-go order
This also assumes that Global warming is true

This seems like something built to protect TSPA crown jewels (if they are there in the first place) or ensure that someone can get them from China when in need through a to-go order