Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 2010

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 29 Aug 2010 04:43

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaJNKgjvLIE

Imran Khan - Chairman Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf visited Canada on August 8, 2010.

Purpose of his visit is to promote PTI in Canada and to raise funds for Shaukat Khanam Memorial Cancer Hospital and the Victims of the devastating Flood in Pakistan.

Rangudu · Post by **Rangudu** » 29 Aug 2010 05:06

Anujan wrote:Jernail Ashphuck is visiting Saudi Barbaria to meet "senior Saudi leadership and discuss the over all situation of the country"

He visited Saudi and China just before 26/11 as well...

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 29 Aug 2010 05:23

Repairing Pakistan’s image deficit

Pakistan and Pakistanis are no longer held in esteem anywhere in the world. This hits one in the face when one presents his passport to an immigration officer. The expression on his face hits one hard. We, as Pakistanis, are questioned for our intent and purpose. The trust, hallmark of a respectable country, is lacking. What we project through our collective behaviour - Sialkot brutality and police beating women - makes us people from a primitive brutal country not fit to take our place in a civilised, educated and decent community. We have not learnt from the national calamities. The wrath of Allah is already upon us in the shape of floods but we seem oblivious of the happenings around us. We are falling from the status of humans and becoming predators. Compassion, sympathy and love for the fellow mankind are becoming scarce. When tyranny crosses limits, Allah does not hesitate to replace such a nation. The time for the last reckoning is fast approaching. Pakistan’s elite and its successive governments have played with the covenant made with Allah at the birth of Pakistan; we are paying back for our failings

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 29 Aug 2010 06:13

CalvinH wrote:
if this is true then most probably this was the cause of breaking of bridges in KP region for sure because in NYtimes photo of flooded areas majority of the broken bridges are in KP where the rivers break into flat terrain. The force of water (due to its downstream flow from the nearby mountains and large water quantity due to flood) would have lend enormous force to the floating logs to break the bridges. More importantly in KP the water doesnt have much flat terrain to expand like flat plains of sindh or punjab.

I saw this much in a report in the last 4-5 days - i.e that logs from chopped trees broke the bridges.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 29 Aug 2010 06:21

Prem wrote:Repairing Pakistan’s image deficit
When tyranny crosses limits, Allah does not hesitate to replace such a nation. The time for the last reckoning is fast approaching. Pakistan’s elite and its successive governments have played with the covenant made with Allah at the birth of Pakistan; we are paying back for our failings

Can these barbaric animals not write one paragraph without mixing up religion in it? BTW this is blasphemy - Allah cannot sign covenants...

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 29 Aug 2010 06:30

Pew Global Survey of Paki attitudes
http://pewglobal.org/2010/07/29/concern ... -pakistan/
It is a very interesting eight page read and useful for showing to TFPE friends exactly what the world is dealing with here.

James B · Post by **James B** » 29 Aug 2010 06:35

Pakis in Matchfixing

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/92 ... -Test.html

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 29 Aug 2010 06:44

Prem wrote:Repairing Pakistan’s image deficit

the police raid on women hostels of Quaid-i-Azam Medical College, Bahawalpur. Police raids on hostels are norms in Pakistan. What is so special about this raid? A photo appearing in a local newspaper shows a police man beating a young girl with his baton - the sadistic expression that the man carries on his face is the ultimate contempt for women and apathy for humanity.

Has anyone seen this photograph? I need a copy if it can be located.

enqyoob · Post by **enqyoob** » 29 Aug 2010 06:47

In a video secretly recorded during the NOTW investigation, a man alleged to be Mazher is clearly heard predicting that Amir would bowl the first over of the England innings, and that he would deliver a no-ball from the first ball of the third over - which as Cricinfo's ball-by-ball commentary noted: "was an enormous no-ball, good half a metre over the line." The man also appeared to correctly predict a no-ball from the sixth ball of the tenth over, bowled this time by Asif.

This might explain today's paki-performance in batting: 74 all out and 41 for 3.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 29 Aug 2010 06:47

Vivek_A wrote:Extra nutty editorial in the nutty nation....even more nuttier than the usual claptrap...

[url=http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... -uncovered]India uncovered[url]
Published: August 28, 2010

THE latest WikiLeaks have thrown a fresh but garish light on the Mumbai attacks, which India has used as an excuse to wriggle out of talks with Pakistan, particularly on the core issue of Kashmir. The WikiLeaks were on the overall theme of why the USA is accused of promoting terrorism worldwide, but they also threw fresh light on the Mumbai incidents, showing that the USA’s CIA was behind them, something which had not previously gained much currency in public.
This not only makes nonsense of the public American stand on the attacks, but also implies that it was fully aware that Pakistan was not involved in the attack when it took place. It also means that India is speciously involving Pakistan, and it is not accusing the USA, with which it is desperately trying to curry favour. The latest WikiLeaks have shown that after 9/11, the CIA, in continuance of its policy of carrying out operations in other countries, executed a number of operations, one of them the Mumbai attacks. Another operation was the gunning down by American Jew Baruch Goldstein of Palestinians at prayer, in which 29 were martyred. This incident not only shows that the CIA is careless of lives of victim peoples, but is also actively anti-Muslim. This anti-Muslim bias helps explain its decision to cooperate in the Mumbai attacks, with their consequent ill effects on Pakistan.
India’s knowledge of what the USA was doing allowed it to present a hypocritical fake front of refusal to proceed with talks until Pakistan cooperated. The revelations also explain why the USA so early, and so consistently, backed the Indian version of events, even though it was patently false. This entire episode once again shows that the government’s courting of India to placate the USA is based on a false belief in American and Indian goodwill. While they are engaged in bloody conspiracies, Pakistan should not only refuse to persuade India for talks, but also end its cooperation in the USA’s War on Terror, which it is using against Pakistan in such an obvious fashion.

Well this may have been picked up off BRF as well where this theory - "Don't blame Paquis for 26/11 - blame Unkil" is doing the rounds

enqyoob · Post by **enqyoob** » 29 Aug 2010 06:48

In a video secretly recorded during the NOTW investigation, a man alleged to be Mazher is clearly heard predicting that Amir would bowl the first over of the England innings, and that he would deliver a no-ball from the first ball of the third over - which as Cricinfo's ball-by-ball commentary noted: "was an enormous no-ball, good half a metre over the line." The man also appeared to correctly predict a no-ball from the sixth ball of the tenth over, bowled this time by Asif.

This might explain today's paki-performance in batting: 74 all out and 41 for 3.

Sriman · Post by **Sriman** » 29 Aug 2010 06:52

Imagine the amount of money Pakistani betting syndicates would have raked in if they had their own players playing in IPL. I wonder how much of it makes it's way to Dus Percenti seeing as Mohammed Asif has been banned twice but still has come back.

Mauli · Post by **Mauli** » 29 Aug 2010 07:03

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mran Khan - Chairman Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf visited Canada on August 8, 2010.

Purpose of his visit is to promote PTI in Canada and to raise funds for Shaukat Khanam Memorial Cancer Hospital and the Victims of the devastating Flood in Pakistan.

Listen to part-5 where he makes fun of elites and specially picks Badmash for his dreams of Amirulmominin.
In Part-6 he speaks BRF wisdom about RAPES.

Rajdeep · Post by **Rajdeep** » 29 Aug 2010 07:15

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1534652242367

A Pakistani politician finally losing it in some house. She has some pretty strong words about the current Pakistani situation.

CalvinH · Post by **CalvinH** » 29 Aug 2010 07:29

So whats the story behind the Sialkot lynching...the one doing rounds have pakistani culture written all over it

X (15 year old) has a fight with another boy Y in a sports match (cricket) - Much like the rest of the world
X goes back and gets his bro X1 (18 years old) to teach Y a lesson, they go to Y's house in a motorbike - Pakistan only part starts here
The 18 year old is carrying a gun
Y gets more people from neighborhood for his defence and fight starts
X1 open fires and injure 4 including Y
Police is called in the meantime and get hold of X and X1. Y is sent to hospital
While X and X1 are being hauled to police station news reaches that Y has died on the way to hospital
Relatives and people from neighborhood snatch X and X1 from police and lynch them while police watch
People Blame RAW/MOSSAD and ISI as no Muslim can do it such act in the month of Ramdan

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 29 Aug 2010 07:54

Upstarts Chip Away at Power of Feudal Pakistani Landlords

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/world ... eudal.html

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 29 Aug 2010 07:56

krisna wrote:China deploys 11,000 troops in Gilgit area in Pakistan occupied Kashmir
In a quiet move, China has deployed about 11,000 troops in the strategic Gilgit-Baltistan region in Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK) to take de-facto control of the key area, where a rebellion is simmering against the Pakistani rule.

The half a dozen visits that Zardari took to PRC within a span of about 18 months and the contracts awarded to Chinese firms for Daimar-Basha Dam and a slew of other works in the region are a ruse for something else. What China is gifting to Pakistan in return is anybody's guess (the two nuclear reactors apart).

menon s · Post by **menon s** » 29 Aug 2010 08:28

[quote="Gagan"]Pakistan's Chinese built tunnels exposed. This is a google earth image dated May 31 2010 of the Hopar glacier with the tunnels and roads under construction. One tunnel is seen complete with a road going into it.
As mentioned elsewhere by someone who has access to 'Cartosat 2B' imagery, the tunnels and the roads are bang on the edge of the Glacier, not a very brilliant idea, whoever planned this. If this is a military installation, any attack on the area will cause the glacier to become unstable, and the tunnels to collapse in the ensuing landslides. As it is the area's geology doesn't seem to be solid rock, but more like sandy and rocky in bits

dear gagan,
Request you to look at Sumayar valley, close to Hunza.
sanjith

mayo · Post by **mayo** » 29 Aug 2010 08:30

Questions for gurus on the 5m flood donation issue:

What difference does it make whether the money is paid through the UN or not? Why did India insist to disburse the aid directly?

milindc · Post by **milindc** » 29 Aug 2010 08:31

shiv wrote:
CalvinH wrote:
if this is true then most probably this was the cause of breaking of bridges in KP region for sure because in NYtimes photo of flooded areas majority of the broken bridges are in KP where the rivers break into flat terrain. The force of water (due to its downstream flow from the nearby mountains and large water quantity due to flood) would have lend enormous force to the floating logs to break the bridges. More importantly in KP the water doesnt have much flat terrain to expand like flat plains of sindh or punjab.
I saw this much in a report in the last 4-5 days - i.e that logs from chopped trees broke the bridges.

If you remember, the very first pictures of floods had Pakis harvesting timber from the passing waters. I did wonder at that time about the source of the timber

menon s · Post by **menon s** » 29 Aug 2010 08:47

the Sumayar valley co ordinates are lat 36 08 to 36 19. long 74 37 to 74 45. 65 kms from Gilgit on KKH.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 29 Aug 2010 09:26

Ahmadi Mazdak challenging Poak ka Matlab kiya hai...Lota, Gubo ,Sailab and Kasab

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... -ideal-880
The secular ideal

Somehow, many Pakistanis have come to believe that they are better Muslims than those living elsewhere. This arrogant attitude belies a deep insecurity that is the hallmark of recent converts. They forget that ultimately, it is for the Maker to decide who is a good Muslim and who is not. Indeed, we have allowed clerics to hijack a religion in which there are supposed to be no mediators between the believer and his God. This group of professional ulema has branded secularism as heresy in a bid to retain its lock on all matters relating to the faith. They have also used their monopoly on Islam to grab political power; indeed, this is their true goal.
Whatever they might say, I have many friends, Muslims and non-Muslims alike, who are firm believers in the teachings of the religions they were born in, and yet adhere closely to the principles of secularism. The truth is that while Europe has been largely cleansed of the terrible cancer of sectarian wars, many Muslim countries remain locked in conflict.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 29 Aug 2010 09:30

^^^ The poor sod is missing the point that a Muslim cannot be secular.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 29 Aug 2010 09:31

mayo wrote:Questions for gurus on the 5m flood donation issue:

What difference does it make whether the money is paid through the UN or not? Why did India insist to disburse the aid directly?

Good question. Someone asked about the Chnkianness here. By demanding that Pakis accept aid directly from India - Pakistanis nose has been rubbed in Pakistaniyat. Having doe that the aid can now go via the UN, or better still anounce that the aid will go via the UN and send no aid. "It will be sent tomorrow"

Patni · Post by **Patni** » 29 Aug 2010 09:36

shiv wrote:
Prem wrote:Repairing Pakistan’s image deficit

the police raid on women hostels of Quaid-i-Azam Medical College, Bahawalpur. Police raids on hostels are norms in Pakistan. What is so special about this raid? A photo appearing in a local newspaper shows a police man beating a young girl with his baton - the sadistic expression that the man carries on his face is the ultimate contempt for women and apathy for humanity.
Has anyone seen this photograph? I need a copy if it can be located.

Police baton charge, snatch veils of protesting medical students

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 29 Aug 2010 09:37

Gagan, Tonight Zeenews was saying there are 22 tunnels(Surange). Looks like TSp has asked PRC to take over POK security in Baltistan area. India needs to protest as POK is disputed. Most likely its with Obama admin approval.

My views are from the deployment pattern it was way before the floods. Wonder if its another intel failure in not detecting the large presence of PRC troops in POK.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 29 Aug 2010 09:41

Pratyush wrote:^^^ The poor sod is missing the point that a Muslim cannot be secular.

As per certain prediction, Poaks will be secular and human once son is born to barren woman and gandu lahori at 2900 hrs of oct 72, Hijri 7172 in Islooland.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 29 Aug 2010 09:43

James B wrote:Pakis in Matchfixing

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multime ... 44749a.jpg

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/92 ... -Test.html

All the TFTA (mostly wimmens) on twitter were claiming that the photos were doctored. I agree 400% and told them that this guy was in fact not a Pakistani cricket player but a Sikh called Amar Singh.

arun · Post by **arun** » 29 Aug 2010 09:56

X Posted from the “Oppression of Minorities in Pakistan” thread.

In the self claimed refuge for the Mohammedans of the Indian Sub Continent, being Muslim is not good enough as one also needs to be a Muslim of the “right” Muslim sect. The Hazara’s who have the misfortune to belong to the minority Shia sect of Islam face discrimination in flood aid:

Flood-hit Hazara areas face govt's apathy

Mauli · Post by **Mauli** » 29 Aug 2010 10:05

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/92 ... -Test.html

What was that sound when MAjeed Mian was counting the bills?. It reminded me of similar sound patterns during Madarasa days (or should i says nights).

Airavat · Post by **Airavat** » 29 Aug 2010 10:14

Pashtun population concentrated in Karachi

Karachi hosts the largest concentration of urban Pakhtun population, surpassing Peshawar, Quetta and Kandahar.

And it all started in Sohrab Goth, the Pakhtun ghetto. In his Partition and the Making of the Mohajir Mindset: A Narrative, Brigadier AR Siddiqi recounts: "After the success of the mammoth gathering at Nishtar Park, Karachi, the MQM organised an equally big rally in Hyderabad on October 31, 1986. On the way to Hyderabad from Karachi, the MQM motorcade was attacked at Sohrab Goth, the notorious hub of Karachi’s drugs mafia."

Today, the killing of MQM leaders is followed by the killing of ANP leaders. Is this a Sohrab Goth-like vendetta? There are ambiguities to consider. Shia Raza Haider was killed by Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, a part of al Qaeda’s 313 brigade led by Ilyas Kashmiri in North Waziristan. In K-P, ANP leaders are regularly killed by the Pakhtun Taliban. Maybe this is not a vendetta between the MQM and the ANP. It is possible that a third party — the Taliban and their master the al Qaeda — is killing people on both sides of the divide.

sum · Post by **sum** » 29 Aug 2010 11:34

ramana wrote:Gagan, Tonight Zeenews was saying there are 22 tunnels(Surange). Looks like TSp has asked PRC to take over POK security in Baltistan area. India needs to protest as POK is disputed. Most likely its with Obama admin approval.

My views are from the deployment pattern it was way before the floods. Wonder if its another intel failure in not detecting the large presence of PRC troops in POK.

Is it possible that Desh knows/knew about this and has already let PRC know about the violations going on ( different matter that PRC will show the finger and continue its work)?

sum · Post by **sum** » 29 Aug 2010 11:39

Well, the latest fixing by the Poaks reiterates the BRF time tested slogan of "Jo Lahore mein....." since even a guy like Md.Asif( who virtually had to stand upside down to make it back into the Pak team after his "herp treatment earlier") manages to start match fixing within such a short time of making it back to the team means that the Poaks are truly write offs and they will never ever come up to civilized behavior...

Hope the Indian establishment realizes this and stops praying for a reform of the "long lost brother"

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 29 Aug 2010 11:39

Patni wrote:
Police baton charge, snatch veils of protesting medical students

Many thanks

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 29 Aug 2010 11:50

Ramana wrote: My views are from the deployment pattern it was way before the floods. Wonder if its another intel failure in not detecting the large presence of PRC troops in POK.

Even BRF had predicted PRC moving to POK some time. Then it should not be a surprise for GOI.

Even the DGMI - IA would be in the know about this. If this is happening with western approval, GOI must have realized the futility of protesting and raising the temperature to dangerous levels after what happened last year.

Best to keep doing what they are doing, raise more mountain divisions, deploy SU-30s, MI17s, airfields, ALGs, increase production of cruise and Ballastic missiles etc. to prepare for the inevitable.

As far as PRC moving to POK, it will be interesting to see the reaction of the local awam and be prepared to exploit openings as they come up in the future...will not be long.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 29 Aug 2010 11:52

Bottomline is Pakistan is losing it's relevance in the great game and it;s utility to wear India down is in question. Hnece the master is forced to reveal his hand.

milindc · Post by **milindc** » 29 Aug 2010 11:56

archan wrote:
sunnyP wrote:More humiliation for the Pakis

This 'middle man' claimed to have 4 Paki cricketers in his pocket.

Arrest over Pakistan-England cricket 'betting scam'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11122388
More on pacqui match fixing
In a video secretly recorded during the NOTW investigation, a man alleged to be Mazher is clearly heard predicting that Amir would bowl the first over of the England innings, and that he would deliver a no-ball from the first ball of the third over - which as Cricinfo's ball-by-ball commentary noted: "was an enormous no-ball, good half a metre over the line." The man also appeared to correctly predict a no-ball from the sixth ball of the tenth over, bowled this time by Asif.
Pakis, as usual, being pakis. No one in this world wants to play them at their home now who'd wanna play them abroad..

BCCI and IPL are to blame for this mess. If the players were allowed to participate in IPL, they would not go for match fixing to make ends meet. Remember Asif needs lot of money.
This is conspiracy of Yindus to destroy Pakistan Cricket by not letting them make money. Remember Yindus/Zionists with red bands tied to their hands also attacked SL team.

Remember Amir is young and a great fast bowler, he just got swayed by the Yindu "Mazhar Majeed (he actually wears a yellow band)". It is just noballs, it didn't affect how he bowled.

Akshut · Post by **Akshut** » 29 Aug 2010 12:05

Some gems from different poakrocah' holes.

I bring up this topic up again. Again the Pakistani players are involved. they sold out their own country for the sake of their bank balance. Bunch of Cockroaches

So many bad things are going on.

This is unbearable. Just unbearable.

Murders, bombs, floods, spot-fixing. It's never-ending.

Days like this make me wish I was Indian

you sorry sons of greedy low life scum retarded ashmeful disgraceful bagairat b*tches. I have watched pak cricket for over a decade now, and no other moment has come close to this one in making me fell ashamed to be a pakistani supporter

They need to be shot.

Flood in Pakistan
Sialkot brothers get murdered
Pakistan posts lowest totals of all time 3 times in one series
Pakistanis are getting involved in match fixing, meaning they dont even represent pakistan from their hearts.. while we pakistanis get up so early in the morning to pray for them

I feel ashamed to be a Pakistani supporter today.. No words... I have been a patriotic Pakistani all my life, but my pride has been damaged from these events.. Pakistan is a joke

Ashamed to be Pakistani!

we will rise again inshahAllah.

and solution to reach a revolution in the gutteri-stan, poakroach style..

You don't need to kill 50 million people to reform society. Maybe 200,000 will do the job. I actually propose that we build concentration camps for 200-500,000 people in the middle of the Baluchistan desert and stuff them with all the criminals of society to cleanse it and to put the fear of God in the rest. That is a more humane way of dealing with the scum instead of killing them all.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 29 Aug 2010 12:06

Guys:

Question. I have been having trouble readinf the TSP "liberal" newspaper "The News" of late. Is there some problem with that site? Sometimes, I can get to the site, but the op-eds are missing. I am especially curious to knows what Jihadi Lodhi has to say these days.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 29 Aug 2010 12:07

Paul wrote:As far as PRC moving to POK, it will be interesting to see the reaction of the local awam and be prepared to exploit openings as they come up in the future...will not be long.

Paul, the deep discontent that has been existing in Balawaristan for decades now has not been exploited by India effectively.