Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 2010

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 01 Sep 2010 04:48

JEM, a very fine response indeed.

Mauli · Post by **Mauli** » 01 Sep 2010 05:24

MQM to table ‘land reforms bill’ in parliament
KARACHI: The only ultimate remedy to save the country was to limit land holdings and anybody owning land greater than the limit set up by the government should be distributed among poor farmers.

This was stated by Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) chief Altaf Hussain on Tuesday in a telephonic address to MQM legislators at the party headquarters Nine Zero. He said that the MQM’s struggle against ending the medieval feudal system would not stop because Pakistan and feudalism cannot move together now.

He said corrupt politicians and feudal lords were feeling threatened because of his recent statements and that was the reason they started their vicious campaign against MQM.

The landed aristocracy in the country had acquired most of the land through service to the imperial colonial masters, he said and added that his party would introduce a bill in the parliament for abolishing feudalism through land reforms.

He directed the party’s legislators to start working on the bill and to collect facts and figures about the land holdings of big feudal lords. Hussain said that the people were looking at MQM for the solution of their problems. staff report

http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?pa ... 010_pg12_7

MurthyB · Post by **MurthyB** » 01 Sep 2010 05:34

This interview with Veena Malik by NDTV is hilarious, especially when she literally has an aside about TFTA Paki mards, completely unrelated to the topic on hand. As Obelix would say, these pakis are crazy.

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-bu ... res/161230

mayo · Post by **mayo** » 01 Sep 2010 05:43

Pakistan's Ugly Secret -- Pervez Hoodbhoy

http://www.viewpointonline.net/pakistan ... ecret.html

Sadly, absolutely nothing is known about disposal of nuclear waste in Pakistan. Are the authorities dumping low-level wastes in the sea or river? Where and how do they plan to bury the high-level wastes that will be lethal for thousands of years to come? Also, there is a complete blackout on the effects of uranium mining in Dera Ghazi Khan in south Punjab. About 10 years ago, mine workers and other affected villagers had banded together after large numbers fell sick from lung disease and cancer. To the dismay of the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission, they managed to produce a petition for the Lahore High Court. But, as invariably happens, the powers that be forced them to withdraw their case and some token compensation was given. Researchers too were defeated by the powerful nuclear establishment that keeps even health information as a national secret.

There are, however, other aspects of Pakistan’s nuclear programme that I have focused upon earlier and bring up yet again:
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shiv · Post by **shiv** » 01 Sep 2010 06:29

Mahendra wrote:Ahmediya Shivulla

Is this the image you were looking for?

No but this is a great one for the collection.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 01 Sep 2010 07:34

Mauli wrote:
MQM to table ‘land reforms bill’ in parliament
KARACHI: The only ultimate remedy to save the country was to limit land holdings and anybody owning land greater than the limit set up by the government should be distributed among poor farmers.

. . .

The landed aristocracy in the country had acquired most of the land through service to the imperial colonial masters, he said and added that his party would introduce a bill in the parliament for abolishing feudalism through land reforms.

Who does he think he is, this Altaf Hussain ? The CII (Council of Islamic Ideology) has already said that land reforms were against Shariah. The Supreme Court has concurred with that. The mohajirs may be agitated because they have no lands, having migrated from the Ganga-Yamuna belt hoping to drink honey & milk that was expected to flow freely in the Land of the Purest. 'Sour grapes' is what compels them to take a moral high ground on land reforms.

The Zamindari system was abolished in East Pakistan in 1950. That shows how powerful these feudal landlords (Zamindars, pirs, vaderas & khans) in West Pakistan have been.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 01 Sep 2010 08:12

Meanwhile for Paklurkers viewing pleasure:
India's economy grows 8.8% in June quarter

New Delhi: The country's economy grew at its fastest clip in nearly three years in the quarter through June on strong manufacturing growth and farm output ...

and all this while MMS was giving the poor, hungry and naked, allegedly flood affected Pakistanis $25 million.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 01 Sep 2010 08:19

Gagan wrote:Meanwhile for Paklurkers viewing pleasure:
India's economy grows 8.8% in June quarter
New Delhi: The country's economy grew at its fastest clip in nearly three years in the quarter through June on strong manufacturing growth and farm output ...
and all this while MMS was giving the poor, hungry and naked, allegedly flood affected Pakistanis $25 million.

These Quarter, Percentage , Manufaturing , Growth things are kuffar for Poak Loag. Simple way to tell them is Indian economy will add to its kitty in one year equal to whole Poak economy including Zakat, jaziya, Loot,Aid and Laid Paid fees from 3.5 Lovers. In ten years , we will be doing the same increase in less than 6months.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 01 Sep 2010 08:38

I would like folks to monitor the news reports from the US about TSP to see if they are supportive of TSP or not and whose views they represent. For example the Schuer article is supportive of TSP and looks like a retired or outed agency report. Eventually e should compile a monthly index of Uncle and West support of TSP.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 01 Sep 2010 08:42

Western Hypocrisy’
A. Q. Khan emerges to discuss his role developing—and proliferating—Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal

The U.S. was aware of Pakistan’s nuclear program but turned a blind eye to it during the original Afghan jihad. As soon as the Soviets were defeated, the U.S. Congress barred American military aid to Pakistan. Has the world made an unfair distinction between Pakistan’s and India’s pursuit of a nuclear program?The Afghan War was a blessing for our nuclear program. It was not that the Western countries actively supported it but that they were too scared and occupied with the Russian invasion of Afghanistan and its future consequences to actively oppose it. Neither the Americans nor the British had a clue about the status of our program until 1990. After the Afghan War they slapped sanctions on us to extract concessions from [fomer Pakistani president] Benazir Bhutto’s government, but [former president] Ghulam Ishaq Khan and [former Army chief] Gen. Aslam Beg frustrated their nefarious designs.

There have been reports that the American Joint Special Operations Command wanted to assassinate you. How safe do you feel?
It is all pure humbug. Nobody ever tried to assassinate me. I traveled all over the world at a time when everyone knew that I was the architect of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons program. The fact is that Allah Almighty had not yet fixed the time and place for my demise. I never was, and never will be, afraid of so-called threats. When our predetermined time comes, Hazrat Izrael [the angel of death] will find us, no matter where we are hiding.

http://www.newsweek.com/2010/08/31/a-q- ... -nuke.html

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 01 Sep 2010 08:46

Mahendra wrote:Ahmediya Shivulla

Is this the image you were looking for?

Why is he whipping that poor lady?

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 01 Sep 2010 09:08

Hindu conspiracy to cause floods in Pakistan

sum · Post by **sum** » 01 Sep 2010 09:11

Posted in full as a good read:
No love for Pakistan

By Saeed Naqvi

Throughout the 90 minute conversation, what came across was Abdus Zaeef’s total distrust of Pakistan and its role in Afghanistan.

The unspeakable tragedy of the floods in Pakistan, on a scale unknown to man, has dwarfed much else in the region: 100 shot dead in three days of political, ethnic and sectarian violence in Karachi, the cloudburst in Leh, the Koochi (Pushotoon shepherds) and Hazara clashes, ironically, in Kabul’s Darul Aman or haven of peace.

Before I meander, let me focus on just one image, here in Kabul, which may provide a clue (among other such clues) to the Afghan jigsaw.

Through a maze of contacts, I am invited to meet Mullah Abdus Salaam Zaeef who, at 42, is a veteran of dramatic experiences of a variety that makes fiction riveting. An orphan, he joined the ranks of the Mujahideen fighting the Soviets. He was then 15, fresh from a Madrasa in Pakistan where his relatives had fled to escape the ‘Soviets.’

Mullah Omar, whom he even today refers to as Amirul Momineen, or the chief of the faithful, became his mentor and friend. Obviously, he left such an impression on Mullah Omar and others in the al-Qaeda-Taliban leadership that when the Taliban came to power in Kabul in 1996, he was posted as the Taliban ambassador to Islamabad. There were similar Taliban representations in the UAE and Saudi Arabia, but not Washington, leaving the US with suitable deniability of any affiliations with the ‘fundamentalists.’ It is another matter that ‘fundamentalist’ delegations made routine beelines to George Bush and his affiliates in Texas.

Fast forward to 9/11 and pictures of Donald Rumsfeld at Tora-Bora mountains pointing at the caves, flames leaping out: “Do you think they are cooking cookies in there?” He meant Osama bin Laden was hatching plots in those caves. He probably was.

Zaeef dutifully addressed press conferences outside his embassy in Islamabad. Then, in December, President Musharraf made a U-turn, joined the war on terror and remained George W Bush’s ‘most trusted ally’ to the very end.

As a prelude to the Bush- Musharraf romance, the ISI promptly handed Mullah Zaeef to the US forces who ferried him to Guantanamo Bay. His four year stint at this facility is now a book — in Guantanamo. He then wrote another book on his years with Taliban.
So, here I am at his two storey house protected by armed guards in an officially provided cabin outside the door. I am escorted to the terrace, lined with flower pots, a green synthetic carpet spread wall to wall.

Mullah Zaeef is a tall, burly man with a thick, bushy beard, blending with his black turban. There are no chairs. Taliban austerity, I suppose. We recline against colourful, rectangular cushions, bloated with extra stuffing of cotton.

As an opening gambit, I settle for the topic most current: negotiations with the Taliban. Who will you negotiate with: I ask.

“When Nato generals and ambassadors ask me that question I say: “Americans should negotiate with the people they are fighting — Taliban”, he replies.

Negotiations only with Americans

What about President Hamid Karzai? I continue. “He is only an instrument of the Americans”. But Gen David Petraeus, the US force commander, Pakistan’s Gen Ashfaq Kayani and President Karzai have been meeting to work out the modalities of negotiations. “Negotiations are possible but only with the Americans” he persists.

Surely, Gen Kayani and the ISI will insist on a role. After all, the ISI has invested so much in Afghanistan over the past 30 years. “The CIA has invested; the ISI has spent a fraction of that investment”, he does not even pause to think.

Are you saying that Pakistan has no role in negotiating peace in Afghanistan? “None whatsoever,” he continues. “Afghan Taliban are fighting the Americans; Pakistan Taliban are fighting the Pakistan government... Pakistan Taliban or Afghan Taliban have no quarrel with the Pakistan nation, the people. The fight is with their intelligence agency, with their government.”

I come to the point directly. The Pakistan army has been talking to the Haqqani group which is extending its influence in Afghanistan. “There are no talks with Haqqani”. Who knows, Gen Petraeus may be right that there is no monolithic Taliban group, just a syndicate of groups. For Mullah Zaeef, the ultimate Taliban leader is Mullah Omar. Can I meet Mullah Omar? I ask him. “Extremely dangerous these days” he says.

Throughout the 90 minute conversation, what comes across is his total distrust of Pakistan. If you wish to see this cool man lose his composure, draw him out on Pakistan’s control on Taliban in Afghanistan.

“They cannot be trusted. It was from their air bases, that the Americans first struck Afghanistan. They facilitated the US troop movements. And do you think they will let the US leave? Do you know that Balochistan is the critical supply route for US Afghan operations? Will Pakistan ever give up this source of income and, above all, control on the Americans”. By now he is virtually frothing in the mouth.

“Even Israelis are not as harsh with their prisoners as the Pakistanis are. The torture our people have suffered….”. Remarkably, he said all this on TV. “First they entertained me as Ambassador, then handed me over to the Americans like an ordinary criminal. Why?” he explodes. The next government in Afghanistan will be neutral between Indian and Pakistan.{ AoA. Jew better than the pious?}

For perspective, let me explain where Mullah Zaeef stands in the Taliban hierarchy. Quite as important as Mullah Zaeef were Taliban foreign minister and representative to the UN, Wakil Ahmad Mutawakkil and Abdel Hakim Mujahid respectively.

After the September elections, we may hear these names as possible interlocutors, if there are to be negotiations, that is.

Rahul Shukla · Post by **Rahul Shukla** » 01 Sep 2010 09:26

It just got crazier for Pakistan (Sun)

YOU might have thought the incredible Pakistan cricket team could not get any worse or crazier. Until Shahid Afridi and Shoaib Akhtar arrive on the scene. Afridi and Akhtar are the unlikely duo Pakistan hope will bring calm and respect in the wake of the match-fixing allegations against Salman Butt, Mohammad Amir and Mohammad Asif.

So guess who are the saviours of Islamic Republic of Pakistan's honor and dignity in these troubling times? A ball/pitch tamperer, foul mouth Afridi and a performance enhancing drug junkie and genital warts patient Akhtar. AoA!

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 01 Sep 2010 10:25

^priceless. like calling in The Joker and The Penguin to bring law and order to gotham city

Mauli · Post by **Mauli** » 01 Sep 2010 11:08

http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/130029/ibn ... hment.html

Rajdeep asks to Imran how he feel about the future of baki cricket when person like Miandad marries his son to the daughter of a mafia Don.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 01 Sep 2010 11:22

SSridhar wrote: The UN Special Fund for Pakistan can take a decision to source from India independent of what Islamabad or its ally, the US, thinks.

SS,

Why do you think that UNSFP will take such a decision.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 01 Sep 2010 12:11

Money can’t buy everything

http://afpak.foreignpolicy.com/posts/20 ... everything

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 01 Sep 2010 12:27

Singha,I think that the Paki duo are in adifferent league above the Joker and Penguin!

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 01 Sep 2010 12:37

Mauli wrote:Rajdeep asks to Imran how he feel about the future of baki cricket when person like Miandad marries his son to the daughter of a mafia Don.

And, he sidesteps that question. There goes jihadi Imran's objectivity and anger against criminals running their country.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 01 Sep 2010 12:38

Pratyush wrote:Why do you think that UNSFP will take such a decision.

I am not saying it 'will'; only it 'can' because its objective is to put the money to best possible use.

durvasa · Post by **durvasa** » 01 Sep 2010 12:41

Pakis are so TFTA and so welcomed everywhere especially when traveling that anything they do or eat or say is noticed with great interest by airline staff and by fellow travelers.
Imagine the reaction of any sane person on the plane, if a Paki says anything like this
1: I hope this is my last flight
2: I need to go to bathroom and do my prayer
3: I want to remove my shoes and can I get some water
4: Allah who Akbar
5: Subhan allah
6: I want a fork to eat food

or if he does anything like this:

7: Goes to bathroom with a bag
8: Stand up just to stretch and looks around
9: Takes out an Urdu magazine or newspaper
10: bends down to tie his shoelace
11: Ask the fellow in the next seat to get up because he wants to pee
12: Gets up to meet other Paki who is sitting a few rows behind him or just gives a weak smile to him

Basically all these activities, fairly normal for people of other nationalities in a plane, demand immediate SOS call to ground control and subtle shifting of seats by some plain-clothed athletic gentlemen in the plane itself, when a Paki is involved.

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 01 Sep 2010 12:47

Marten wrote:..But instead of proceeding to Tampa, the delegation was ordered to return to Pakistan by their military superiors in Islamabad, in protest of their treatment, the Pakistani official said, adding that they were "verbally abused."

Seriously...these mofos have too much ghosht.......they are like this b@st*rd son, US his father and those snacks being weapons,dollaraan etc

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 01 Sep 2010 13:02

Pakistan air strikes on militants kill 55
(AFP) – 2 hours ago

PESHAWAR, Pakistan — The death toll from Pakistani air strikes on militant hideouts in a northwestern tribal area Wednesday rose to 55, with reports of some civilian deaths, security officials said.

Pakistani jet fighters Tuesday targeted militants preparing for imminent suicide attacks and destroyed their bases in the lawless Khyber tribal district, which borders Afghanistan, security officials said.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 01 Sep 2010 13:18

The above in some details

"Militants were using civilians and their families as human shields and there could be some civilian casualties but we do not know how many," a senior security official said, confirming the new toll in the Tirah valley.

Two military and an intelligence official also confirmed the incident and the death toll, while local government officials said about a dozen civilians died.

Don't be surprised if all the 55 dead turn out to be civilians.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 01 Sep 2010 13:24

durvasa wrote:Imagine the reaction of any sane person on the plane, if a Paki says anything like this
1: I hope this is my last flight
2: I need to go to bathroom and do my prayer
3: I want to remove my shoes and can I get some water
4: Allah who Akbar
5: Subhan allah
6: I want a fork to eat food

or if he does anything like this:

7: Goes to bathroom with a bag
8: Stand up just to stretch and looks around
9: Takes out an Urdu magazine or newspaper
10: bends down to tie his shoelace
11: Ask the fellow in the next seat to get up because he wants to pee
12: Gets up to meet other Paki who is sitting a few rows behind him or just gives a weak smile to him

Great list durvasa! You should write an "Airlines Flight Manual Post 9/11" and design a new "On-board Safety Card"!

Sri · Post by **Sri** » 01 Sep 2010 13:41

MurthyB wrote:This interview with Veena Malik by NDTV is hilarious, especially when she literally has an aside about TFTA Paki mards, completely unrelated to the topic on hand. As Obelix would say, these pakis are crazy.

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-bu ... res/161230

He he... Barkha gets anooyed on 'I am engaged with a guy in US and he is quite handsome and all pakistani men are very husband, so why should I call Dheeraj and India Photographer?'

Barkha has the last say in the end...

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 01 Sep 2010 14:05

^^she is such a dumbo.....waste of ndtv's time & bandwidth

btw..would she be interested in bollywood? item songs you know?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 01 Sep 2010 14:06

I don't blame the Dallas policeif this is what was said

Once inside the United Airlines plane, one of the delegation members remarked that he hoped the flight proved to be their last flight and they soon reached their destiny.

derkonig · Post by **derkonig** » 01 Sep 2010 14:24

Pingrezi turned destination into destiny?

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 01 Sep 2010 14:38

SSridhar wrote:The above in some details
"Militants were using civilians and their families as human shields and there could be some civilian casualties but we do not know how many," a senior security official said, confirming the new toll in the Tirah valley.

Two military and an intelligence official also confirmed the incident and the death toll, while local government officials said about a dozen civilians died.
Don't be surprised if all the 55 dead turn out to be civilians.

And be even less surprised if this was a "message" killing, i.e. the people involved were some Talibs and their families who fell into disfavour for their "independent minded thinking" or had some local conflict in which some senior Pak officer had some vested interest...

Vril · Post by **Vril** » 01 Sep 2010 14:44

MurthyB wrote:This interview with Veena Malik by NDTV is hilarious, especially when she literally has an aside about TFTA Paki mards, completely unrelated to the topic on hand. As Obelix would say, these pakis are crazy.

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-bu ... res/161230

notice her fake accent. do pakistanis have anything original except for rightful ownership over worldwide terrorism??

another observation. why does she have to take his whole name mohd asif everytime?? rae there more than one asifs in her life and she wants to make sure which one she is talking about??gets irritating after some time.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 01 Sep 2010 14:59

SSridhar wrote:I don't blame the Dallas policeif this is what was said
Once inside the United Airlines plane, one of the delegation members remarked that he hoped the flight proved to be their last flight and they soon reached their destiny.

Oh Paquis! What will the world do without you.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 01 Sep 2010 15:06

Please don't go by what the Daily Times said, from American report the Raacket Murd Pakistani make an inapproriate comment at the lady Air hostess which got the delegation into trouble. Too bad there were goats nearby to take care of his needs

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 01 Sep 2010 15:54

Vril wrote:
MurthyB wrote:This interview with Veena Malik by NDTV is hilarious, especially when she literally has an aside about TFTA Paki mards, completely unrelated to the topic on hand. As Obelix would say, these pakis are crazy.

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-bu ... res/161230
notice her fake accent. do pakistanis have anything original except for rightful ownership over worldwide terrorism??

another observation. why does she have to take his whole name mohd asif everytime?? rae there more than one asifs in her life and she wants to make sure which one she is talking about??gets irritating after some time.

Her accent would make her a laughing stock in India. Yet this engaged-to-haandsum-Amrikan-maan mohatarma speaks soo confidently. The stupidity of Pakis knows no bounds surely

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 01 Sep 2010 15:57

SSridhar wrote:JEM, a very fine response indeed.

Thanx boss.

Of late, I've taken to responding in the comments section... Heard somewhere the comments are read more than the actual article

Sri · Post by **Sri** » 01 Sep 2010 16:06

Chandragupta wrote:Her accent would make her a laughing stock in India. Yet this engaged-to-haandsum-Amrikan-maan mohatarma speaks soo confidently. The stupidity of Pakis knows no bounds surely

She claims she is doing this for patriotic reasons... Me feels as commented above, it's more about some cheecky deal with Ekta Kapoor of Bhatt Sahib. With her fake accent and fake evangelism she wants to turn into 'The Mohtarama' who will save the Kirkit Ijjat of the Pure.

Barkha's smirk says it all... I guess the last sentence cut her down to size.

amit · Post by **amit** » 01 Sep 2010 16:11

Chandragupta wrote:Her accent would make her a laughing stock in India. Yet this engaged-to-haandsum-Amrikan-maan mohatarma speaks soo confidently. The stupidity of Pakis knows no bounds surely

The other hilarious point in the interview is that Barkha was questionomg her about her relationship with this Dixit fellow in the context of match fixing/betting. She turned that around to, Oh I've got handsome rakth mard in Amir Khan and there are so many slightly less handsome raakt mards in Pukestan so why should I contact that SDRE Dixit. You could see Barkha literally smirking.

What Mohatarmas like her are beginning to realise is that it's the SDRE banias who have the money to throw around at air heads like her, not the handsoome Rakit Mards.

Also did you notice she was at pains to mention that her Amir Khan Raakt Mard was a US citizen. May be this is version 2.0 of the Canadian visa program started by Mushy?

vina · Post by **vina** » 01 Sep 2010 16:40

shiv wrote: soon reached their destiny.

Oh Paquis! What will the world do without you.

Well. H&D seems to be of paramount importance.

Pakistan recalls delegation from the US

Manu · Post by **Manu** » 01 Sep 2010 16:50

shiv wrote: Oh Paquis! What will the world do without you.

The world would do INCREDIBLY WELL, IMO.