Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 03, 2010

James B · Post by **James B** » 05 Sep 2010 20:06

Balochistan Chief Minister Aslam Raisani (PPP party) gives Speech after getting drunk

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 05 Sep 2010 20:17

^^^^ ROFLMAO onlee. Literally only. haha

archan · Post by **archan** » 05 Sep 2010 20:48

Ah I see Mr. Raisani is some kind of a hero on youtube.

"Degree, degree hai, asli ho ya naqli ho"

"Tum log sab murdabad"

Paki deserve their "leaders"!

sum · Post by **sum** » 05 Sep 2010 20:59

Mahendra wrote:Forsaken Crimes of Pakistan Army

The comments are also worth reading!!! Pakis displaying their Pakistaniyat in full strength...

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 05 Sep 2010 21:13

archan wrote:Ah I see Mr. Raisani is some kind of a hero on youtube.
"Degree, degree hai, asli ho ya naqli ho"
"Tum log sab murdabad"
Paki deserve their "leaders"!

Look out for a video where he calls to put "bamboo" up the a**

I thought laloo was funny!

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 05 Sep 2010 21:36

James B wrote:Balochistan Chief Minister Aslam Raisani (PPP party) gives Speech after getting drunk

That look on the cop's face is priceless.

thayilv · Post by **thayilv** » 05 Sep 2010 21:49

I think towards the end, the Hon'ble Chief Minister was starting to throw up, you can just see little bits coming out over his speech!

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 05 Sep 2010 22:03

The return of the prodigal son
Altaf "Paanwalla" Hussain, part deux.

MQM’s leader Altaf Hussain said on Sunday that he was willing to come back to Pakistan in order to bring revolution.

Altaf said that if the provinces were ready for the revolution they should speak to Rabta Committee and remove all restrictions against him.

He added that those who were worried with his statements about revolution would be more worried when they hear of his return.

Does this mean that the mohajirs are now waitimng for a second coming? (First one being, ofcourse, Djinn-aah!).

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 05 Sep 2010 22:08

Who says that he was drunk

Don't you know that no muslim can even touch drinks in Pakistan, leave alone give a speech after drinks?
Clearly that video has been altered by CIA, RAW and Mossad. One can clearly see that the mike is malfunctioning, and that is the way he speaks.

Actually he was dehydrated that is why people were seen giving him water. But I think that RAW tried to poison him.

Jeeve jeeve Benazeer
Jeeve jeeve PPP
Jeeve jeeve paak-kas-taan

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 05 Sep 2010 22:12

^^^^

Bious faithfools are sober. he is a RAA agint sent to corrupt baluchis.

Hunting with the hounds

The question of who is in charge of Pakistan — the civil administration or the army and Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) — is one that has infuriated most Pakistani leaders and officials. But it is a valid one, given that the Interior Minister Rehman Malik's assurance to Home Minister P Chidambaram, on voice samples of those accused in the 26/11 attacks in Mumbai has been reversed for flimsy reasons.

Pakistan has too long been caught up in some sort of abused spouse syndrome in which the very same people it seeks to shield have visited trauma and devastation on it. The same elements and their followers whom India is seeking to bring to task are never far from the scene when terrifying suicide bombings of the sort that have killed so many people within the country have taken place. In the latest outrage, at least 25 people have been killed in three bomb explosions during a Shia religious procession.

It makes eminent sense to cooperate with India to bring the likes of Lakhvi to book. Those hell-bent on jihad quite easily turn on their benefactors as Pakistan has discovered all too painfully.
It is still not too late for Pakistan to stop its slide into complete isolation and irrelevance. But first it must understand that abused spouses, by silence and cover-ups, will only invite more violent retribution upon themselves.

The spouses met each other some time ago with fairy tale of commonality in their hatred to India. Just like spouses had their honeymoon period, now their are bickering but still sleep together. No chance of divorce for foreseeable future. MMS having chai biskoot party is fine as long as it buys time for our growth.

menon s · Post by **menon s** » 05 Sep 2010 23:11

Poor Balawarisatan people, protesting against Chinese Central China Power Group" CCPG, for wages due beyond six months? As usual, the Chinese do not want to pay. Make a fast buck where and when you can".
http://www.balawaristan.net/index.php/L ... istan.html
The saddest part is the Indian sub-severance with China. Can we not beat the Chinese Navy? Can we not beat their Air force? Dont our military planners know, that?
We can. Their Navy and Airforce do not have the will to protest against Taiwan? Do you guys think they are game for the Indian Navy and its airforce?

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 06 Sep 2010 00:36

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/09 ... .html?_r=1
Pakistan's Flooded Farms Unable to Be Sown

SHAH JAMAL, Pakistan (AP) -- Abid Hussein fears the deep floodwaters that destroyed his cotton crop, rotted his wheat seeds and swept away his farming tools are not done ravaging his life. Just weeks before the wheat planting season is to start, his 1.5-acre (0.6-hectare) farm still lies under 3 feet (0.9 meter) of water, and he is certain it will not drain in time. ''I will not be able to plant,'' the 35-year-old father of four said in despair.
he floodwaters that already devastated one crop in the fields are threatening the next season's crop as well, an aftershock aid workers fear could add to Pakistan's misery and prolong the crisis. If they miss this season, farmers in the flood areas won't be able to plant wheat for another year and won't harvest it until May 2012, leaving many dependent on food aid for the foreseeable future. ''It's a race against time in areas,'' said Truls Brekke, a spokesman for the U.N.'s Food and Agriculture Organization. The flooding that swamped as much as one-fifth of the country destroyed 3.6 million hectares (8.9 million acres) of maize, rice, sugar cane and cotton crops and killed 1.2 million livestock and 6 million poultry, according to preliminary estimates by the U.N. and the government.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 06 Sep 2010 01:53

[youtube]FDU2YcPK4Ng&feature=related[/youtube]

Don't know if this has been discussed here before

Marri on Balochistan independence

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 06 Sep 2010 02:16

Main ghulaam ka ghulaam hoon, is se behter hai Amreeka ka direct ghulaam hona.

I infer the Baloach would not be averse to be in a 'union of Asian states' means India not Iran/Afghanistan.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 06 Sep 2010 02:35

[youtube]s2cZLs_8lLs&NR=1[/youtube]

Something for the Paklurks here, withdraw your Fatwas against Rushdie, he says Pakroachistan is better than India

manju · Post by **manju** » 06 Sep 2010 02:51

Mahendra wrote: Don't know if this has been discussed here before

Marri on Balochistan independence

Note the language of both people.

The baluch guys languages reflects the Indian version.. unlike the press fella who seems to speak with a lot of urdu words..

Manny · Post by **Manny** » 06 Sep 2010 04:09

Pakistani Army has ruled Pakistan for most of its life, and the Indira Gandhi family has ruled India most of India's life.

Two Jamindhars with a sense of entitlement of their own country.

archan · Post by **archan** » 06 Sep 2010 04:30

Manny wrote:Pakistani Army has ruled Pakistan for most of its life, and the Indira Gandhi family has ruled India most of India's life.

Two Jamindhars with a sense of entitlement of their own country.

As they say, when you've got no clue about a subject, it is better to not speak and risk being considered an idiot, than to open your mouth and prove it.
Don't derail this thread by bringing in "Indira Gandhi family" and your associated ignorance about "jamindhars".

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 06 Sep 2010 04:43

Marri tribe are descendants of Maratha PoWs from Panipat Campaign.. This is one of the theories of the Marri tribe... They are one of the important resources in TSP which are potential allies of India if we cash them..

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 06 Sep 2010 05:04

Mahendra wrote: Marri on Balochistan independence

Marri @2:56 wrote:Main kehta hoon, Amreeka ka ghulami, Punjab ki ghulami se behtar hai. Pujabi mera national identity khatam kar raha hai. Amreeka aake, keval chori karega - tel aur gas. Punjabi aake mere zammen par ....

I'm saying, It is better to be a slave of America than a slave of Punjab. Punjab is destroying my national identity. America would come, and steal only oil and gas. On the other hand, Punjab would come and take over our lands.

Marri @4:55 wrote:Main mulk tha, aur main mulk rahoonga. Pakistan kucch bhi karna chahta hai; Punjab ke Elite agar koi accha face-saving karna chahta hai, Bangladesh ka halat ko agar avoid karna chahta hai - aaj apna Time-Table deyn, roll-back kareyn, apne fauj ko nikaleyn, apni Establishment ko nikaleyn, Balochistan ko cchorh deyn, Azad mulk honen deyn!

I was always a nation, and I'll always be a nation, regardless of whatever Punjab wants to do. If Punjab's elite want to save face, if they want to avoid a situation as in Bangladesh, they should give us today a time-table to roll back (their occupation), withdraw their forces, withdraw the establishment. They should leave Balochistan, and let the country be free.

Marri @7:32 wrote:Main aapko ek point doonga. Aap kehte hain ek ghulami cchorh ke doosra ghulami? Main Ghulam ka Ghulam hoon. Pakistan Amreeka ka Ghulam hai, main phir Pakistan ka, Punjab ka Ghulam hoon. Wo direct uss ka ghulam hona behtar hai banisbat Ghulam ka ghulam hona.

I'll give you a point. You say, that we would take up a new slavery after leaving this one! I am the slave of a slave. Pakistan is the slave of America, and I am then slave of Pakistan, of Punjab. It is better to be the direct slave of America rather than being the slave of slave.

Sorry for any translation errors!

Sanjay M · Post by **Sanjay M** » 06 Sep 2010 05:19

(TIME)How Pakistan's Floods Have Made Women Dangerously Visible

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 06 Sep 2010 05:20

entire interview is worth watching...

mayo · Post by **mayo** » 06 Sep 2010 05:21

Mahendra wrote: Don't know if this has been discussed here before

Marri on Balochistan independence

Thank for the video. Found another one on youtube where Harpiyar Marri is interviewed by the hostess of crisis cell program.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL8QYLkIZCA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld5wJVLH ... ature=fvwp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnD8yxEw ... re=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLYoFU6b ... re=channel

OT: How can I embed youtube videos here? I tried {youtube}completeaddress{/youtube} and {youtube}embedcode{/youtube} (with square brackets instead of the curly ones) and none of the syntaxes worked for me.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 06 Sep 2010 05:48

^ OT
Example.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL8QYLkIZCA

would be

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[youtube]WL8QYLkIZCA[/youtube]

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 06 Sep 2010 06:16

Manny wrote:Pakistani Army has ruled Pakistan for most of its life, and the Indira Gandhi family has ruled India most of India's life.

Two Jamindhars with a sense of entitlement of their own country.

What is the exact need for this idiotic equalequal?

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 06 Sep 2010 06:18

Atri wrote:Marri tribe are descendants of Maratha PoWs from Panipat Campaign.. This is one of the theories of the Marri tribe... They are one of the important resources in TSP which are potential allies of India if we cash them..

I did not know that. Maybe OT but is there any documentary link to this theory?

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 06 Sep 2010 06:22

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 503409.cms

ISLAMABAD: A handful of Pakistani Muslim youths are beginning to question the existence of God and in the process giving up Islam to become atheists.

Still a small number, the trend seems to be telling of pressures that the image of militant Islam has had on them. A Facebook group has been floated for Pakistan's agnostics and atheists by Hazrat NaKhuda, a former Pakistani Muslim.

Hazrat is a young computer programmer from Lahore. Ahmed Zaidi (name changed), another member, posted on the discussion board: "I'm an agnostic simply because I see little or no evidence for the existence of God. Some time ago I decided that I'd never believe anything unless it has a firm basis in reason and as far as I know (and I admit I know very little and there's much to be learnt), there's little or no evidence for the existence of God."

The group, open strictly to members, has young Pakistani students studying in New York University to Oxford University to the prestigious Lahore University of Management Sciences as members.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 06 Sep 2010 06:32

Remember this MM Alam guy? He made up (or rather the PAF made up) this ridiculously concocted story of him being an ace and all that. Shiv and others had at length proven his claim a fictitious some time ago. Well, seems like that the pakis put him behind a desk soon after 1965 to save themselves further embarassment and since then he has been nursing a grudge of some sorts. Here's a newspiece on him in the Daily Noose: M.M. Alam: a fighter to the end

Excerpts:

“I was thrown out of the force with the allegation that I am not a learned man as I most of the times used to disagree and argue with other higher officials of the force,”

If Alam had been allowed to continue serving he would have been the Chief of Air Staff (CAS) by now .

“Unfortunately we have not grabbed the actual idea of freedom.

At times I do feel down, depressed and upset

“When I used to see Muslims being killed around I wanted to do the same

While debating on the current situation of the country, the retired Air Commodore regrets the situation of Pakistan which is labeled as ‘miserable and critical’.

“The blame cannot be put on one authority. All are accountable for this. Civilians, Islamic scholars, students, all are equally responsible.”

“This nation is waiting for another Jinnah. Someone has to wake up to save the country. We cannot move on like this,”

But to his dismay most of the institutions in the country have become the victims of politics.

he said Pakistanis have a bad habit of demanding for a system different from the existing one. “We have a propensity to forget our past easily and don’t want to stumble upon the harsh facts. We are comparable to that small kid who if beaten by his mother rushes to dad to seek refuge and vice-versa.”

Quite a paki hero, huh? And that too a Paki-bengali.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 06 Sep 2010 06:39

Only 20% of aid received
And that too, only in kind. No hard cold moolah.

Trust deficit: Only 20% world aid to come through govt

More than one month has passed and only 20 percent of the total pledges of $1.014 billion has been received by the government, mainly in kind, through the United Nations (UN) or International Non-Governmental Organizations (INGOs).

Official sources confirmed to The News on Saturday that Pakistan received only $18 million in hard cash after this devastating flood while a major chunk of the pledged aid was disbursed in kind and mainly through UN and INGOs.

India has committed $25 million for relief in flood-affected areas and data sheet of Finance Ministry shows that the whole amount would be utilized through UN system.

The data sheet compiled by the Finance Division showed that USA and other western countries are not going to disburse their pledged amount through the government.

Other than some other Muslim countries, China is the only exception which has committed $20 million which will be disbursed through government of Pakistan.

And, you may consider that as a payoff for the Northern Areas by the taller than the tallest......friends.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 06 Sep 2010 06:40

Mahendra wrote:
Don't know if this has been discussed here before

Marri on Balochistan independence

Mahendra Ji you made my day. This is music to my ears.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Sep 2010 06:42

Guys, please remove img & youtube tags when quoting a previous post. It adds to bandwidth, and clutter.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 06 Sep 2010 06:45

Finally, the pakis get it.
The aid maze

There is understandable confusion as to just how much–or how little–aid Pakistan is getting from foreign donors to help us cope with the effects of the Great Flood.

The money will be coming from the World Bank’s fund for the world’s poorest countries–the International Development Organisation–meaning that it does not attract interest. What the man in the street may not realise is that not only is this money not a gift, we have to pay it back at some point.

There being no such thing as a free lunch, the money comes with strings. Not new strings, but old strings retied.

We are to remain indebted for the foreseeable future and there are concerns among our donor bodies and nations as to our capacity to effectively spend the aid that is coming our way.

and

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 06 Sep 2010 06:48

Atri wrote:Marri tribe are descendants of Maratha PoWs from Panipat Campaign.. This is one of the theories of the Marri tribe... They are one of the important resources in TSP which are potential allies of India if we cash them..

Atri ji do you have any links you can share on this topic I would be interested in exploring it a little further

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 06 Sep 2010 06:49

Sanjay M wrote:(TIME)How Pakistan's Floods Have Made Women Dangerously Visible

Parda, which is also spelled "purdah" and means "curtain" in Urdu, is the practice of shielding women from men they are not directly related to, both through physical segregation and through the custom of modesty, that is, with the women wearing clothing to conceal their shape. It is observed by many women in rural areas of Pakistan, including in the majority-Pathan northern belt bordering Afghanistan. In these parts, a family's honor is often tied to the chastity and obedience of its women — and protecting and defending the honor of women from verbal and physical harm is part of an ancient code of honor and revenge.

This is a perfect example of how things that are actually considered antisocial and repressive in the west are considered glamorous and exotic and Pakistan, exactly as described by Vir Sanghvi in his article:

What devoured glamorous Pakistan ?

They came back with stories of unbelievable hospitality and spoke knowledgeably about Pakistan’s feudal structure, about landowners like the Bhuttos, about an autocracy that had reigned for centuries etc.

Even on the other side of the ideological divide, Pakistan was all too visible. He had come down from Oxford nearly eight years before, but a former president of the union, the charismatic Trotskyite Tariq Ali was still the sort of chap who made English girls swoon. For her first debate as president of the Oxford Union, Benazir asked Tariq Ali to speak. He agreed but then, rather inconveniently, he was detained by the police on a visit to Pakistan. No matter. He phoned Benazir who spoke to daddy and — hey presto! — Tariq was out of jail and on a plane to England. Pakistan was that kind of country, the British chortled delightedly.

In those days, us poor Indians hardly ever got a look in. The Pakistanis were dashing, far richer (they spent in a week what we spent in the whole term), always going off to chic parties or nightclubs in London and charming the pants off the British (often, quite literally).

In fact I had written in the SRR in 2005
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/SRR/2005/ ... islam.html

An Attack on Pakistan is an Attack on Islam
The image of Pakistan , as evinced by global media reports, throws up a large number of contradictions that seem irreconcilable. On the one hand there is the often-presented romanticized picture of a tolerant Islamic state, conjuring up images of a nation worthy of inspiring the Arabian Nights. A “responsible” nation wronged by India and by the United states , a misunderstood nation that symbolizes peace and equality of Islam. A forward looking nation led by a latter-day Ataturk, who speaks of “enlightened moderation” as the cure to Pakistan’s problems caused by rampant religious fundamentalism.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 06 Sep 2010 07:06

anupmisra wrote:Remember this MM Alam guy? He made up (or rather the PAF made up) this ridiculously concocted story of him being an ace and all that. Shiv and others had at length proven his claim a fictitious some time ago.

In fact the proof was there - and is on BR. I only made a video clip for YouTube based on that story

Anyhow the Alam story has also been trashed by Sajad Haider whose book I reviewed. I did not mention this in mybook review - but will scan the relevant page and put it up.

Added later. OK here it is

CalvinH · Post by **CalvinH** » 06 Sep 2010 07:59

Atri wrote:Marri tribe are descendants of Maratha PoWs from Panipat Campaign.. This is one of the theories of the Marri tribe... They are one of the important resources in TSP which are potential allies of India if we cash them..

Dont want to comment on this but look at the headgear of the guy (some kind of personal guard) behind Nawab Aslam Raisani in his video (where he is apparently drunk). Looks a lot like the Maratha headgear.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Sep 2010 08:14

Isn't Jalebi a Marri?

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 06 Sep 2010 08:22

Suicide bomber attacks Laki Marwat police station

LAKI MARWAT: A suicide bomber rammed his explosives laden car into Laki Marwat city police station killing several and injuring many, Geo News reported.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 06 Sep 2010 08:26

Shireen Mazari

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 06 Sep 2010 08:50

Erdoğan criticizes Muslim countries for reluctance to help Pakistan
(Staking the claim for O'mah leadership without paying )

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has criticized oil-rich Muslim countries for their slowness and reluctance to send humanitarian aid to flood-stricken Pakistan. According to the prime minister, member countries of the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) have pledged to send only $1 billion to Pakistan. “What is the Muslim world, who say they own oil resources, doing? How much of their oil have they sent to Pakistan? I do not want them to get offended. But it was not they who discovered the oil resources. The resources are a blessing,” he stated during a symposium in İstanbul on Sunday.

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detay ... ink=221089