Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 03, 2010

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 06 Sep 2010 19:23

I disagree with the assumption that if Pak breaks up "all will flee to India"! When Pak breaks up,it will be based upon tribal divisions.Baluchis,Sindhis and Punjabis will flee to their folk first,rather than to "secular India".We may see in Pak,on a smaller scale,the bloodbath of Partition yet again,as ethnic groups all try and flee to their regions where they will be safe.Pak has in all truth "lost" the northern regions of NEFA of yore,where the tribes hold forth.The most inviting region where Pak can be rent asunder is Baluchistan,where as this report says,the Paki armed forces pefereed to drown the Baluchis to save the SHahbaz air vase.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -base.html

EXcpts:

Call for probe into diversion of Pakistan floodwater from air base

A former Pakistani prime minister and a British peer have called for an inquiry into allegations that hundreds of thousands of homes were sacrificed beneath floodwaters in order to save an air force base.
By Rob Crilly in Islamabad
06 Sep 2010

There have been calls for a probe into the alleged diversion of waters away from an air base. Photo: Khalid Tanveer There are also dozens of other cases in which rich Pakistan landowners are accused of breeching dykes and flood defences in order to spare their own property as torrential rains swept down the Indus River.

Local politicians believe that flood waters were diverted into a vast area of the south-western province of Balochistan – displacing half a million people – to save the Shahbaz air base, home to some of the country's most modern fighter aircraft. Opposition groups allege that the base is used by the US to launch strikes against militants.

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The alleged saving of the air base is hugely controversial in a country gripped by anti-American sentiment. Conspiracy theorists have blamed Washington for ordering the base to be saved, despite repeated denials by American officials. Mir Zafarullah Khan Jamali, the former prime minister, said he had asked the country's chief justice for an inquiry.

"Whoever is responsible should be brought to justice for inundating parts of Balochistan just to save the Shahbaz airbase being used by American forces," he said.

Lord Nazir Ahmed, who addressed journalists in Balochistan at the weekend, said he would raise the issue in the House of Lords if the Pakistan government ignored calls for a judicial inquiry.

Politicians in Balochistan have also accused the government of flooding their land as part of a campaign to sideline the region and save their own political heartland in neighbouring Sindh.

Talat Masood, a retired Army general, said the air base was too important to risk losing.

"There had been so much investment that it seems certain that even if there was a slight risk then the authorities would have tried to protect it," he said.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 06 Sep 2010 19:56

Dilbu wrote:Children die as Pakistan suicide bomber targets police
Four school children are among 19 people killed in a suicide car bombing in north-west Pakistan.

The attacker rammed a pick-up into a police station in Lakki Marwat town, in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province.

In the classification of attacks discussed previously, where does this one sit?

abrahavt · Post by **abrahavt** » 06 Sep 2010 20:43

“ Good evening! This is Radio Pakistan with the sports news.
We begin with the results of the match between Pakistan and England, which begins at Lords tomorrow...”!!!

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 06 Sep 2010 20:57

abrahavt wrote:“ Good evening! This is Radio Pakistan with the sports news.
We begin with the results of the match between Pakistan and England, which begins at Lords tomorrow...”!!!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Sep 2010 21:07

Phillip, I agree. Only the Urdu speaking Mohajir will be forced to come back to India. All others ar ethnic groups and will stay in their ethnic lands. The Mohajirs are like ronin.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 06 Sep 2010 21:12

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/06/nyreg ... .html?_r=1

seems to be a chip off the old block - revels in being a nuisance to others wherever it may be.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 06 Sep 2010 21:17

ronin is 'masterless samurai', the mohajirs are not the same i think
there is another term for 'water bandit' or i suppose driftwood - which i don't remember, but which may be more appropriate!

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 06 Sep 2010 21:24

WSJ has a slideshow on the latest pakattack on police - 18 kia, some very hostile comments about the faithful in comments section.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 06 Sep 2010 21:41

Philip wrote:I disagree with the assumption that if Pak breaks up "all will flee to India"! When Pak breaks up,it will be based upon tribal divisions.Baluchis,Sindhis and Punjabis will flee to their folk first,rather than to "secular India".We may see in Pak,on a smaller scale,the bloodbath of Partition yet again,as ethnic groups all try and flee to their regions where they will be safe.Pak has in all truth "lost" the northern regions of NEFA of yore,where the tribes hold forth.The most inviting region where Pak can be rent asunder is Baluchistan,where as this report says,the Paki armed forces pefereed to drown the Baluchis to save the SHahbaz air vase.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -base.html

Nothing of that sort like Bangla refugees will happen in Pak division. This is the biggest BS being spread by jhollawalas and their concubines in the western press. The players of the Great game know the result and who will be winner in case of TSP division and they are spreading all such lies.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 06 Sep 2010 21:45

If India is shooting at all infiltrators, how can refugees simply walk over to India.

The jhollawala should try walking to India over the LOC or the international border, other than at an official crossing.

Kanson · Post by **Kanson** » 06 Sep 2010 22:00

as long as Bangladesh partition remains in the memory of Pak Army there will be no mass influx of refugees.

Kanson · Post by **Kanson** » 06 Sep 2010 22:00

abrahavt wrote:“ Good evening! This is Radio Pakistan with the sports news.
We begin with the results of the match between Pakistan and England, which begins at Lords tomorrow...”!!!

Vashishtha · Post by **Vashishtha** » 06 Sep 2010 22:04

An article by vir sanghvi in HT. Confusing if it was intended to be an ==.
Before you chuckle over Pak cricket
This comment summed up my opinion...

Mr. Singvi,

Your long article was confusing; what were you trying to say?

Pak got what it deserved for breeding, hybriding terrorists and sheltering world class goons like Dawood, Osama and Saeed. Whats there to feel smug or superior about it? Pak got what it deserved; I would not spend any time on Pak; including time for its spelling.

So what if we have corrupt cricket administrators? They will be weeded out one by one. But whats wrong if noncricketers make money in billions? Whilst they are making money, even the associated players are making money in millions. Even the restaurants, movie halls, garment industry, tourism, transport industries..and other industries end up making money which are a result of the imagination and enterpreneurship of these noncricketers. Thanks to the popularity, more kids are going to cricket grounds to pursue a career in cricket; and thanks to this, many of our lesser known cricketers are able to run coaching clinics.

Seriously, do you have any intelligent suggestion to offer..?

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 06 Sep 2010 22:52

Muppalla wrote:
Nothing of that sort like Bangla refugees will happen in Pak division. This is the biggest BS being spread by jhollawalas and their concubines in the western press. The players of the Great game know the result and who will be winner in case of TSP division and they are spreading all such lies.

With each passing day, as I see the whites spinning events in TSP, I am reminded of this philosophical thought: if a tree fell in a forest, and nobody heard it fall, did it really fall? Likewise, not only do whites control India's economic and military destiny, or for that matter the world, but also how history is written and how images are shaped.

Recently, I called NPR and asked a foreign policy "expert" Susan Glasser (I am mystified how is it that consummate dim-wits like her get to such positions of importance in DC) as to what is it that Iran did that Pakistan did not for her to rant and rave that the former is such a threat to "world peace" because of its desire to get nukes while the later must not be allowed to fail because it has nukes? First of all she was stunned that such a question would come her way, most of the callers were "support our troops" or Obama bad Bush good or vice versa type of callers. And the stupid answer she could muster was to repeat the same crap, TSP is too important an ally of US against Al Queda and Taliban extremists, and US foreign policy "experts" are burning the mid-night oil to stabilize TSP. When I mentioned TSP nuke proliferation and LET, she said there is the "Kashmir situation". As I tried to probe further, you guessed it, the host cut me off citing no time

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James B · Post by **James B** » 06 Sep 2010 22:57

Kamran Akmal is the fourth player who is under investigation of ICC per reports.

Here is a pic of Akmal with the match-fixer Majeed.

And the whole Paki team with match-fixer Majeed in Australia

mayo · Post by **mayo** » 06 Sep 2010 22:59

The following article needs some attention from BRFites. Will be thankful if a few of you can post comments there. Author Andrew Buncombe is overtly indophobic and deserves a tough response to his blithering.

The Last Word: India should fix itself not fixate on Pakistan
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/cric ... 70749.html

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 06 Sep 2010 23:05

Pakistan's survival threatened by terror and flooding, says president

Asif Ali Zardari, Pakistan's president, has warned that his country's very survival was under threat from the twin forces of extremism and flooding, as militants launched their third major strike in less than a week.

what yindia not mentioned. you days are numbered

secretly he must be salivating if yindia and bakis do trading then he can get his commission

It brings the total of people who have been killed in a wave of terrorist attacks since Wednesday to 109 amid signs the Pakistan Taliban is trying to capitalise on the disarray caused by the floods.

keep it up. want a double century soon

Ihsanullah Ihsan, a spokesman for the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), claimed responsibility for yesterday's attack on Lakki Marwant, in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, and promised more bombings.we give moral support biardher
"The TTP will leave no stone unturned to speed up attacks and defeat the enemies of Islam. The Pakistan government is committing a great sin by siding with the US against the Taliban, who are the true defenders of Islam", he told The Daily Telegraph by telephone. On Friday, a senior commander said the Pakistan Taliban was preparing to launch attacks on Europe and the US.

the more bious bery upset with the less bious.

CalvinH · Post by **CalvinH** » 06 Sep 2010 23:06

CRamS wrote: Recently, I called NPR and asked a foreign policy "expert" Susan Glasser (I am mystified how is it that consummate dim-wits like her get to such positions of importance in DC) as to what is it that Iran did that Pakistan did not for her to rant and rave that the former is such a threat to "world peace" because of its desire to get nukes while the later must not be allowed to fail because it has nukes? First of all she was stunned that such a question would come her way, most of the callers were "support our troops" or Obama bad Bush good or vice versa type of callers. And the stupid answer she could muster was to repeat the same crap, TSP is too important an ally of US against Al Queda and Taliban extremists, and US foreign policy "experts" are burning the mid-night oil to stabilize TSP. When I mentioned TSP nuke proliferation and LET, she said there is the "Kashmir situation". As I tried to probe further, you guessed it, the host cut me off citing no time .

CramS ji, I can bet that this must have set her thinking about it even though she shrugged it off with the usual reply. I can bet that there must be other listeners who would be going home with some doubt in mind about TSP. Every bit contribute here. The reactions from western public in blogs and comment on the point of aid to TSP for the floods is an eye opener that change can be built slowly. TSP will be digging its own grave through it actions (national and international) but we have to get the nails and hammer ready when they slide themselves into the coffin.

Manishw · Post by **Manishw** » 06 Sep 2010 23:13

CRamS wrote: she said there is the "Kashmir situation". As I tried to probe further, you guessed it, the host cut me off citing no time .

CRamS Ji, kindly xpost in GD-PS if not done so already, otherwise it will be lost in this thread. Thnx.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 06 Sep 2010 23:17

Latest Pakistan floods prompt fresh exodus from towns

Water is gushing towards Dadu district after a breach in the Toori dam in the north of the already flood-hit region
In the past weeks all but four of Sindh's 23 districts have been deluged.

One side is continuing to flow to the Arabian sea, while the other is going parallel to the Indus' natural course, wreaking a path of destruction.

This rogue flow of water has now reached Dadu district, and is pouring into Manchar, the country's largest freshwater lake. It has swollen to the extent that it is now threatening to inundate those parts of the province which have so far escaped the disaster.
If Lake Manchar overflows, the waters could cut off access to the Indus highway, the area's main connection to the rest of the country.
Their job has been severely hampered by fresh rains in northern Pakistan, which have given a new lease of life to the flooding.

The floodwaters are fast heading towards Johi town after inundating most parts of Khairpur Nathan Shah and Mehar towns and several surrounding villages in Dadu district," he told the Associated Press.

They say that agricultural losses in the province will reach $1bn, with the losses in cotton production alone put at over $370m - a situation made all the more serious by the fact that cotton is the country's most important cash crop.
Sindh is also known for growing rice, sugar cane, vegetables, citrus fruit and pulses, and officials say that up to a third of the harvest is now likely to have been lost or spoilt.

Bore wells have been damaged, top soil washed away and farm equipment lost.
And there are now growing concerns that fields will be too waterlogged for farmers to be able to sow the winter wheat in time.

pakjabi is lucky to have escaped wrath of the god. Sindh is in plains and very vulnerable.

CalvinH · Post by **CalvinH** » 06 Sep 2010 23:17

I dont think Mohajir will be running to India when TSP collapses. The mohajir who have retained their identity as mohajirs are in only Karachi. Rest of them like Mushraff have been assimilated in Punjabi culture. The Mohajirs in Karachi are strong enough to get something for themselves when TSP is falling apart instead of running to India.

I also think the collapse will be slow and will be preceded by all ethnicities moving to and consolidating their regional power centers in the anticipation of eventual collapse. In TSP the fault lines between ethinicities anyways run deep and historically all ethnicities are associated with a defined geographical region.

So this refugee thing is BS. The only refugee we may see is ruling elites, so called jehadi in disguise intellectuals and hindus. We should shoot the first two on sight if that happens.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 06 Sep 2010 23:23

England bowler Broad has no sympathy for Pakistan

Stuart Broad said on Monday that he had no sympathy for the Pakistan players engulfed in a 'spot-fixing' row that has sent shockwaves through the world of cricket.

"The Pakistan team, there's a lot of hype around them at the minute but at the end of the day that's not our problem."We've just got to go out there and try to win."

Broad said that, as far as he was concerned, players were well informed about the dangers of underhand approaches."We're very educated on this sort of anti-corruption stuff," he said.
"I don't think any player could ever have an excuse -- 'I didn't know', or 'We weren't educated'," insisted Broad, who added most of his information on the subject had come from cricket officials rather than his father Chris, a match referee and former England opening batsman.
"We get hand-outs, handbooks. The amount of books I've got from the ICC (International Cricket Council) at home, full of information -- there's certainly no excuse as players.
"The ECB (England and Wales Cricket Board) are pretty strict in regulating everything like that."
"I don't know what other (national) boards do," the 24-year-old said.
"But that's the responsibility they have to take to make sure every player is educated."

pretty strong words from the 24 year old. must hurt the pakis etch and dee all the more.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 06 Sep 2010 23:25

mayo wrote:The following article needs some attention from BRFites. Will be thankful if a few of you can post comments there. Author Andrew Buncombe is overtly indophobic and deserves a tough response to his blithering.

The Last Word: India should fix itself not fixate on Pakistan
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/cric ... 70749.html

The Independent has consistently produced indo-phobes like this idiot. I recall, there was another reporter called Peter Popham who was even more viscous. He called India's obsession with Information Technology "tragic". He was the first one to blame Indian army for Chattisnpura massacre of Sikhs by TSP LET. The list goes on.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 06 Sep 2010 23:27

'Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan plans to target prominent politicians on Eid'

Pakistani intelligence agencies have reportedly warned that the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) is planning to target prominent politicians and important personalities on Eid.

According to sources, the intelligence agencies have collected information from intercepts of conversations among the TTP militants.

"Militants could make attempts to kill these politicians and other prominent personalities during Eidul Fitr prayers or Eid Milan parties in their respective hometowns," The News quoted a report, as saying.

The report also said that most of the politicians on the hit list were from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

Among those in the list reportedly include Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi, former Interior Minister Faisal Saleh Hayat, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa senior minister and Awami National Party (ANP) leader Bashir Ahmad Bilour, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Information Minister Mian Iftikhar Hussain and provincial police chief Fiaz Ahmad Toru.

Sources said that the personalities have been informed about the potential threat to their lives and their families. (ANI)

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what kind of festival is this where more pious hunt down less pious. So with all khuspoo camels & cows lying deep at the bottom of arabian sea the bunnies are going to halal politicians this eid?

Manny · Post by **Manny** » 06 Sep 2010 23:28

CalvinH wrote: Every bit contribute here. The reactions from western public in blogs and comment on the point of aid to TSP for the floods is an eye opener that change can be built slowly. TSP will be digging its own grave through it actions (national and international) but we have to get the nails and hammer ready when they slide themselves into the coffin.

I was pleasantly taken aback at the reaction of the people here (Blogs and forums) towards Pakistan too.

There is a very poignant line in that silly movie "Harold and Kumar - Escape from Gitmo" where President Bush tells them, I am a paraphrasing here... "You don't have to have trust in your government, as long as you have trust in your country (America)".

That's what the people in the US are doing. The Government, including the state department, The cold war relic think tanks and Holbrooke et al may have an anachronistic view of Pakistan..But the people here have a very realistic view of Pakistan...Finally!

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 06 Sep 2010 23:31

My 2 cents on this whole myth of paki refugees rushing to India at collapse.

At the risk of inviting wrath from senior members I want to do a hypothetical ==. Say imagine for one milli second that India is disintegrating (no chance at all but just a fantasy of pakis) where will Indians go? How many will think of moving to Pakistan. Absolutely no one. They will dig in to take their chances than to move to land of pure. The reason is deep hatered and mistrust for past 60 years. Same logic applies to pakis. Deep down they are scared of moving to India because they have no clue what awaits them on this side of border even if they are tempted by the green grass.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 06 Sep 2010 23:32

Pakistan tax authorities to look into players assests

The Federal Board of Revenue (FBR) will investigate the total assets of the Pakistan cricketers, team officials and top-ranking paid officials of the Pakistan Cricket Board, a senior tax official said on Monday.

Every person whose income is above 500,000 rupees has to file a wealth tax return and we compare that with our own data and, if required, hold an audit to verify assets," he said.
Rauf said that the FBR would accumulate details of the players' income and compile details of the players' sources of income, vehicles, plots, farmlands, bungalows, national/ international bank accounts and movable/non-movable assets.

It has one of the lowest income tax payers in the world, hardly enforced to generate revenue for the govt.wonder how many RAPEs pay the income tax. maybe the joke will be on the tax collector- does he pay tax at all.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 06 Sep 2010 23:39

So we are to expect some IED for EID? TTP should put their money where their mouth is.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 06 Sep 2010 23:45

Manishw wrote: CRamS Ji, kindly xpost in GD-PS if not done so already, otherwise it will be lost in this thread. Thnx.

What is GD-PS?

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 06 Sep 2010 23:48

Of course DIE is another anagram.

Manishw · Post by **Manishw** » 06 Sep 2010 23:51

CRamS wrote:
Manishw wrote: CRamS Ji, kindly xpost in GD-PS if not done so already, otherwise it will be lost in this thread. Thnx.
What is GD-PS?

After topics, it is no.12 in GD.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 06 Sep 2010 23:59

Asia's Giants: Comparing China and India
Edward Friedman , Bruce Gilley

India and Pakistan are still in the early stages of learning to have a
mature balance of nuclear deterrence while managing raw sores of
conventional conflict, such as Kashmir.15 No Indian defense planner
can afford to ignore the Pakistan problem, but India does not benefit,
as Vajpayee learned, when paranoia is allowed to distort priorities.
Pakistan is an inferior power and will remain so with a minimum of
Indian effort.

Most Indian leaders recognize the importance of rising
above the hostile entanglement with Pakistan, to enable India to play
a more influential role on the global scene, and to encourage a more
economistic (and benign) concept of national security. They therefore
are prepared to make adjustments to conditions in and to the status of
Kashmir, which will be attractive to Pakistan,16 although it will not be
easy to make headway on this front.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 07 Sep 2010 00:03

Two cracker explosions in Lahore, no damage reported

LAHORE: Two cracker explosions took place in Lahore on Monday night, spreading fear among the people in the area. No causality was reported, said police officials.

According to sources, the first explosion occurred outside the building of the bomb disposal squad in the TownShip area. The wall of the building was damaged.

The second explosion took place outside the house of DSP Legal Special Branch Afzal Hussain, damaging windows of his car.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 07 Sep 2010 00:08

Crackers are powerful enough to damage walls and cars? Oh wait.. almost forgot these are TFTA crackers == 10 SDRE crackers.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 07 Sep 2010 00:10

^ They say cracker blast if the death toll is Zero or One.

RajeshG · Post by **RajeshG** » 07 Sep 2010 00:15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcs1oWzXFv8

The above is a link of the Ind-Pak bowlout from first T20 WC. The Ind bowlers were Sehwag, Bhajji and Uthappa. The pak bowlers were Yasir, Gul and Afridi.

Something is not halaal here.

James B · Post by **James B** » 07 Sep 2010 00:19

RajeshG wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcs1oWzXFv8

The above is a link of the Ind-Pak bowlout from first T20 WC. The Ind bowlers were Sehwag, Bhajji and Uthappa. The pak bowlers were Yasir, Gul and Afridi.

Something is not halaal here.

Nice catch. Definitely looks fixed. That too 3-0

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SureshP · Post by **SureshP** » 07 Sep 2010 01:14

krisna wrote:Pakistan tax authorities to look into players assests
The Federal Board of Revenue (FBR) will investigate the total assets of the Pakistan cricketers, team officials and top-ranking paid officials of the Pakistan Cricket Board, a senior tax official said on Monday.

Every person whose income is above 500,000 rupees has to file a wealth tax return and we compare that with our own data and, if required, hold an audit to verify assets," he said.
Rauf said that the FBR would accumulate details of the players' income and compile details of the players' sources of income, vehicles, plots, farmlands, bungalows, national/ international bank accounts and movable/non-movable assets.
It has one of the lowest income tax payers in the world, hardly enforced to generate revenue for the govt.wonder how many RAPEs pay the income tax. maybe the joke will be on the tax collector- does he pay tax at all.

2 million pay income tax in pakistan. Similarly only 32 million pay income tax in India. A higher percentage for India but hardly anything to write home about.

disha · Post by **disha** » 07 Sep 2010 01:21

SureshP wrote:2 million pay income tax in pakistan. Similarly only 32 million pay income tax in India. A higher percentage for India but hardly anything to write home about.

Wrong equal-equal and a stupid self goal.

You would have been right on mark if 16 million in India pay income tax. The fact is that 32 million pay indicates that 2x times are covered in the tax. Population of Pakistan is 160 Million and we are <1.2 Billion. So we have 8x times population. And we will be equal if only 16 million paid taxes.

Yes, it is okay to identify how much further we have to go, but it is also okay to identify how much further we have come.

Added later: I have to call the above stats into question.

Per this http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/19/world ... taxes.html., 2.5 million are registered (in 2010). If number to be registered were taken into account, 57 million are registered in India ( per 2007 RTI ) http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Ind ... 240281.cms ., that is @32x more registered as of today. So taking percentage by population we are 4x times better, that is 400% better onleee

mayo · Post by **mayo** » 07 Sep 2010 01:22

Brad Goodman wrote:My 2 cents on this whole myth of paki refugees rushing to India at collapse.

At the risk of inviting wrath from senior members I want to do a hypothetical ==. Say imagine for one milli second that India is disintegrating (no chance at all but just a fantasy of pakis) where will Indians go? How many will think of moving to Pakistan. Absolutely no one. They will dig in to take their chances than to move to land of pure. The reason is deep hatered and mistrust for past 60 years. Same logic applies to pakis. Deep down they are scared of moving to India because they have no clue what awaits them on this side of border even if they are tempted by the green grass.

Barring TFTA TSPA mards and a few jihadis, they will come. Sensibilities of ordinary times may not be applicable in the circumstances of extraordinary times. Evolutionary instincts of survival will trump any hatred of India. Geographical proximity, absence of language and cultural barriers will make them come to India in hordes. Pakis are expert at taquiyya and are used to living with contradictions. They may continue to harbor ill against India while still living in India but that's not the same as saying they won't come at all.