Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 03, 2010

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 24 Sep 2010 12:30

Don't videos also have information embedded in them, like EXIF information in JPEG files? Could someone who downloaded the video from youtube please take a look at this embedded information and get more details please? Such as date shot etc. Could be useful in pinpointing who exactly did this.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 24 Sep 2010 13:45

chilarai wrote:as expected the video has been removed already.

I have them downloaded and safe. I will use video software to turn the second video by 90 degrees to its upright position and join up the two videos and have them ready for sharing with the whole world.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 24 Sep 2010 13:47

thayilv wrote:What I found disturbing was the repeated shots the soldiers fired at the dead bodies. One coward goes up close and puts a bullet in each one and backs up only to be joined by his partner who then proceeds to pump them with bullets again.

Not dead. You could hear those boys moaning and see them moving.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 24 Sep 2010 14:02

This video needs ought to be shared with the media. We need to highlight the real atrocities of these savage barbaric pricks! Can we forward that to desi+western media outlets? And to wikileaks as well? Although i am apprehensive if any US/UK channels would play this as it would unveil the true nature of Pakis, it is worth a shot to send it Canadian and Scandinavian media.

James B · Post by **James B** » 24 Sep 2010 14:11

Money and the military

Pakistan’s military appears to have grown into a machine with an insatiable appetite for money. The reported – unannounced – increase in defence expenditure by about Rs110 billion, from Rs442.2 billion announced in the budget in June to Rs552 billion presented in a paper to the IMF comes at the cost of social sector development. The allocation for safeguarding the welfare of people by looking after their needs for education, healthcare and infrastructure has been slashed by Rs73 billion. What is especially disturbing is the clandestine manner in which the changes have been made. Senior officials at the finance ministry suggested a typographical error may have been responsible, and they knew nothing about it. The military spokesman has also said this is not in his knowledge. Reports however state the increase may be intended to fund a major operation in the tribal areas.

So, Pakistani military budget increase by Rs110 billion is a typing mistake

James B · Post by **James B** » 24 Sep 2010 14:14

Krishna, Qureshi have chance encounter at UN parking lot

May be for GUBO by chooha Qureshi.

James B · Post by **James B** » 24 Sep 2010 14:19

Pakis are furious over injustice meted to daughter of Pukistan - Aafia Siddiqui

But not even one came out to protest the shoddy flood rescue efforts by TSP. This is TSP for you.

And Nadeem Paracha of Dawn tweets : "Dr. Aafia 'qaum ki beti?' Nope. More like quam ki dysfunctional kidney."

Vashishtha · Post by **Vashishtha** » 24 Sep 2010 14:49

My legs were shivering when i saw tht PA coward shooting point blank at the moaning boy.... Tht was disturbing.. Any of you mind if i try and send this to ireport??

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 24 Sep 2010 14:51

These 'protesters' are not volunteering to vent out their anger, but are most likely bought with little money and food by political parties,madrassas and other religious organizations. Have you noticed how most of them carry banners of some organization that they represent? About Aafia, what's the chance that she too was a US asset that somewhere went rogue aka David Headley?

abhushan · Post by **abhushan** » 24 Sep 2010 15:04

Very disturbing indeed.Found the video on the web. It is compressed rar format file. Inside video files are in 3gp format. One may download it on mobile and send it to media.

http://www.4shared.com/file/F7iejzSm/swat.html

shiv wrote:
chilarai wrote:as expected the video has been removed already.
I have them downloaded and safe. I will use video software to turn the second video by 90 degrees to its upright position and join up the two videos and have them ready for sharing with the whole world.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 24 Sep 2010 15:11

All these posters look like they have been centrally manufactured by the same artists... ISI poster shop?

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 24 Sep 2010 15:46

The "most wanted woman in the world",Paki neuro-scientist Siddiqui given massive jail sentence!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... icers.html

Pakistani scientist sentenced to 86 years in US prison for attempted murder of US officers
The Pakistani neuroscientist Aafia Siddiqui was sentenced on Thursday to 86 years in prison by a US federal judge for the attempted murder of US officers in Afghanistan.

Siddiqui, 38, was convicted by a US jury in February of trying to kill American agents and military officers after Afghan police detained her in 2008.

During her three-week trial, FBI agents and US soldiers testified that when they went to interrogate Siddiqui, she snatched an unattended assault rifle and shot at them while yelling: "Death to Americans!" She was wounded by return fire but recovered and was brought to the United States to face trial.

Though she was not convicted of terrorism, the US government has argued that Siddiqui is a radical who deserves a "terrorism enhancement" under federal sentencing guidelines that would guarantee a life term. Authorities claim that Siddiqui, who trained at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Brandeis University, returned to her native Pakistan in 2003 after marrying an al-Qaeda operative related to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the admitted mastermind of the Sept 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

The defence had asked the judge for a sentence closer to 12 years behind bars. Her lawyers argued in court papers that their client's outburst inside a cramped Afghan outpost was a spontaneous "freak out," born of mental illness instead of militancy.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 24 Sep 2010 16:28

Ambar wrote:These 'protesters' are not volunteering to vent out their anger, but are most likely bought with little money and food by political parties,madrassas and other religious organizations. Have you noticed how most of them carry banners of some organization that they represent? About Aafia, what's the chance that she too was a US asset that somewhere went rogue aka David Headley?

I would send to Times Now in India. Another option is TV9 Bangalore

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 24 Sep 2010 16:42

abhushan wrote:Very disturbing indeed.Found the video on the web. It is compressed rar format file. Inside video files are in 3gp format. One may download it on mobile and send it to media.

http://www.4shared.com/file/F7iejzSm/swat.html

The only metadata I'm able to see (using http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en, via
http://www.forensicfocus.com/index.php? ... opic&t=766 )

is that the media was encoded

1.3gp at UTC 2009-05-26 08:51:15 and
2.3gp at UTC 2009-05-26 09:52:21

Managed to do that without watching the videos!

This translates to 2:51:15 PM and 3:52:21 PM Pakistan time.

I assume that the soldiers are Pakistani (e.g., and this did not take place say, in Afghanistan) is clear from the video?

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 24 Sep 2010 16:46

Ambar wrote:This video needs ought to be shared with the media. We need to highlight the real atrocities of these savage barbaric pricks! Can we forward that to desi+western media outlets? And to wikileaks as well? Although i am apprehensive if any US/UK channels would play this as it would unveil the true nature of Pakis, it is worth a shot to send it Canadian and Scandinavian media.

I Doubt anyone would want to cover it, worst is DDM lack of interest in covering paki atrocities and lack of knowledge about Paki attrocities to the Indian Public.

There seems to almost an understanding amoung Indian elites to run down the Indian Armed Forces and promote the pakis.

The recent AFSPA discussion when the army had nothing to do with the stone pelters is a stellar example.

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 24 Sep 2010 16:54

Any video processing experts here? Is it possible to grab the identity of these psychopaths from their uniforms and badges and audio analyzer?
This is unforgivable.
If we BRFites let this pass as some random event, then we must stop posting from now on.
This must be reported to the UN,AI,the whole media.

Shiv
Please upload the video and post the link.
Thanks
Altair

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 24 Sep 2010 16:57

Vashishtha wrote:My legs were shivering when i saw tht PA coward shooting point blank at the moaning boy.... Tht was disturbing.. Any of you mind if i try and send this to ireport??

I did in the 2nd hour today.......till now no signs...you too upload it on ireport...lets see if it works

Added Later:
Forget it Brother...they will not allow the video to be on their site...
Just now checked my iReports

Probably a UN email address would do

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 24 Sep 2010 17:04

A_Gupta wrote: I assume that the soldiers are Pakistani (e.g., and this did not take place say, in Afghanistan) is clear from the video?

I see trees around....Afghanistan has such terrain?

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 24 Sep 2010 17:06

abhushan wrote:Very disturbing indeed.Found the video on the web. It is compressed rar format file. Inside video files are in 3gp format. One may download it on mobile and send it to media.

http://www.4shared.com/file/F7iejzSm/swat.html

Why cant the audio be heard?
I tried to play in vlc and media player classic, any ideas?

self edited:
Got it thanks!

archan · Post by **archan** » 24 Sep 2010 17:09

Venkarl wrote:
Vashishtha wrote:My legs were shivering when i saw tht PA coward shooting point blank at the moaning boy.... Tht was disturbing.. Any of you mind if i try and send this to ireport??
I did in the 2nd hour today.......till now no signs...you too upload it on ireport...lets see if it works

This stuff is too graphic for most "family" oriented channels IMO. Pakis on youtube have already, in true paki style, labeled it as propaganda! conspiracy theories!

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 24 Sep 2010 17:20

Pakis doing what Pakis do best, Yindoos responsible for Sailat and begging Yankees to interfere.

Floods in Pak caused by Siachen militarisation: Envoy

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 620650.cms

Huh, was just wondering what took them so long to come up with such a thesis. Waiting for WKK's DDM to support them on this issue.

Haqqani claimed that Islamabad was making efforts to get the glacier de-militarised.

That is really simple, move the Puki army from POK and accept that all of Kashmir is part of India and the lacier will automatically become demiltarised, zimble only.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 24 Sep 2010 17:43

‘PM should know the consequences of defying SC’

Attorney-General Pakistan Anwarul Haq on Friday told the Supreme Court that Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani had approved the summary regarding the reopening of Swiss cases against President Zardari. However, the summary's contents could not be disclosed.

Chief Justice Iftikhar said that Prime Minister Gilani should know the consequences of defying the apex court's verdict.

Is Dus percenti in trouble??

Sources said the summary suggested that no cases could be initiated against President Zardari in the Swiss courts. The summary further stated that the president enjoys immunity under Article 248 of the Constitution of Pakistan.

Dus percenti will be better off in swiss court rather than in pakistan court. The jail facilities will be better off. He will also have the real swiss alps to gaze around. But groper/TSPA hold the keys.

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 24 Sep 2010 17:45

archan wrote:
Venkarl wrote:
I did in the 2nd hour today.......till now no signs...you too upload it on ireport...lets see if it works
This stuff is too graphic for most "family" oriented channels IMO. Pakis on youtube have already, in true paki style, labeled it as propaganda! conspiracy theories!

..I vaguely remember watching a video in which a teenage girl in a red hood shirt was throwing 8-10 new born puppies into the river and the issue was taken up by some international association and they have started investigation by rounding up on girl's language, river's flow, forests etc...they say its recorded in Eastern Europe..

and remember a white cop shooting a disarmed African youngster getting shot while he was on knees in some Californian railway station...the video was aired on CWTV and some actions were taken "they say"

now compare the above ones with this mindless shooting spree video......it should create a RAGE actually...folks in west...please share this video with non-Indians too.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 24 Sep 2010 18:03

Young Pakistan is moderate, finds results of new study

Pakistani youth are serious about their own religion, but do not want to impose it on other people, a new study conducted by Pak Institute for Peace Studies (PIPS) has revealed.

According to the PIPS survey involving postgraduate students from 16 public and private universities and postgraduate public colleges across the country, 92.4 per cent respondents overwhelmingly considered religion to be an important factor in their lives, though 51.7 percent admitted that they did not offer prayers regularly.

79.4 per cent of the surveyed Pakistani youth thought that the Pakistani Taliban did not serve the cause of Islam.

- 92% religious and 51% offer no prayers but 79% think baki taliban not bery bious onlee.

85.6 per cent respondents believed that suicide bombings were prohibited in Islam(bakis are full of muslims and soosai bummers are common. 92% of the soosai bummers are religious and in that over 40% are religious and offer prayers- this clearly a disconnect or they have started practising taqqiya already) 61.7 per cent people supported military operations in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa and the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA).

Killing of children is supported- may be the question is not asked or silly to ask as bakis are bakis.

95 per cent Pakistani youth favoured women education.

must be confusing data when faced with the real situation in bakistan.

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 24 Sep 2010 18:07

This is big! I tweeted this video to a few journos, nothing happened.

We shouldn't let this go, if you have contacts in news channels, desi & non, please mail them. Share it on facebook, mass email, tweet, this video must be spread across the world. This is really big.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 24 Sep 2010 18:08

^ All videos Removed

Joseph · Post by **Joseph** » 24 Sep 2010 18:09

Pakistan spent two million on defense lawyers for Aafia Siddiqui. The Swat youth shot in the Youtube video probably didn't even get defense lawyers.

rkirankr · Post by **rkirankr** » 24 Sep 2010 18:09

Chandragupta wrote:This is big! I tweeted this video to a few journos, nothing happened. We shouldn't let this go, if you have contacts in news channels, desi & non, please mail them. Share it on facebook, mass email, tweet, this video must be spread across the world. This is really big.

I cannot view Youtube or see this video in office. Can someone mail it to my mail id
rkirankrATgmail.com

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 24 Sep 2010 18:11

Universities budgetary standoff subdued in Pakistan heading is strange using words subdued for education but on he contrary coming from panda mouthpiece it is normal as everything flows from the barrel of the gun.

The budgetary standoff between the protesting universities and the High Education Commission (HEC) of Pakistan subdued to a compromising happy note on Thursday, as a three points agreement has been reached here in Islamabad.

Over 72 universities across Pakistan had suspended all academic activities on Wednesday to press their demands, particularly continuation of funding for the Pakistanis scholars overseas.

for RAPEs by the RAPEs

The basic three point formula agreed in principle by the Planning Commission's meeting includes

1) the continuation of scholarship grants for over 10,000 Pakistani scholars studying overseas.
2) the 50 percent raise as recently announced by the government for all the public sector employees would be granted against the earlier suspension orders,
3) the developmental funds would be released conditionally.A planning commission member said that funds would be given for the completion of only those on campus teaching staff residences which were 90 percent done.

Keeping the hopes high on a positive note, the high education chief had expressed the possibility that a special fund of 15 billion rupees (175 million U.S. dollars) might be allocated for the higher education sector in the next financial year.

I hope there is no clarification in near future that the 15 billion pakistani rupees is a typographical error.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 24 Sep 2010 18:11

rkirankr wrote:
Chandragupta wrote:This is big! I tweeted this video to a few journos, nothing happened. We shouldn't let this go, if you have contacts in news channels, desi & non, please mail them. Share it on facebook, mass email, tweet, this video must be spread across the world. This is really big.
I cannot view Youtube or see this video in office. Can someone mail it to my mail id
rkirankrATgmail.com

sent it.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 24 Sep 2010 18:22

Americans sacrificing their kid''s future for Pakistan

Americans are sacrificing their children''s future to build infrastructure in Pakistan, a senior Senator said today.

This government''s going to borrow 41 cents out of every dollar it spends this year. I mean, this is a real sacrifice Americans are making, and they''re sacrificing their children''s and grand children''s future in order to build infrastructure in Pakistan," Senator Jim Rish said at a Congressional hearing.
"Do they have even a modicum of appreciation for what Americans are doing for them" Rish asked Cameron Munter, who has been nominated by Obama as the next US Ambassador to Pakistan.

Reply of Munter is

If confirmed, I''ll try to verify this . I don''t think it''s a question that they don''t know what we''re doing.
The question is the scepticism of why we''re doing it and what our goals are and what our relationship is," Munter said in response.
"I know that sounds somewhat soft, but I think the historical experience of America and Pakistan indicates that there have been times of mistrust.

when we see these aggregate figures of popularity 17 per cent of the people positive and scepticism about the American assistance,

that we''re honest, open and clear about the process, that it''s understood to be a straightforward and honest process in investing this money, and that it''s understood why we''re doing it, and that we understand and we''re able to articulate to Americans that the reason this is taking time is because of the historical scepticism,

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 24 Sep 2010 18:28

Two killed as NATO tankers, containers blown up in Pakistan

Militants Thursday blew up four oil tankers and three containers carrying fuel and other supplies for NATO troops in Afghanistan, killing two people, officials said.

not fridin.count bery low.

The lawless Khyber is on the main NATO supply route through Pakistan into Afghanistan, where 150,000 foreign forces are battling to reverse an escalating Taliban insurgency.

NATO supplies also travel through the southwestern province of Baluchistan, which is troubled by Taliban violence and attacks by separatists who rose up in 2004 demanding autonomy and a greater share of profits from natural resources

so far no news of fridin ieds. drying up

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 24 Sep 2010 18:33

upload the video on dailymotion with the usual riders (18+ etc). it is not censored as strongly as youtube.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 24 Sep 2010 18:35

Efforts underway to bring Dr Afia back to Pakistan: Malik

Minister for Interior Rehman Malik said on Thursday that all out efforts would be made to bring back Dr. Afia back to Pakistan.Talking to media at Parliament House he said, “Dr. Afia is daughter of the nation and the government is utilizing all possible channels to bring her to back to Pakistan.”He added that a letter has been dispatched to US for the repatriation of Dr.Afia Siddiqui and that she should be deported to Pakistan under UN Convention for exchange of prisoners on humanitarian grounds.

wow

To a question he said the government had ordered an inquiry that from where Dr. Afia was lifted by US and even if she had been lifted from Afghanistan, under the international law, the country is bound to hand her over to the concerned country

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 24 Sep 2010 18:36

I have uploaded the video @wikileaks Link firefox may give a warning..but I've ignored.

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 24 Sep 2010 18:47

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/5246779/s ... _pak_army/

JwalaMukhi · Post by **JwalaMukhi** » 24 Sep 2010 18:49

The paki army always excel in their core competency, which is rape, murder of children and women, not necessarily in that order. This is just extension of their standard behavior. Please follow this link to see all the feathers in the paki army's cap. warning: quite graphic.
http://www.genocidebangladesh.org/

“…… we were told to kill the hindus and Kafirs (non-believer in God). One day in June, we cordoned a village and were ordered to kill the Kafirs in that area. We found all the village women reciting from the Holy Quran, and the men holding special congregational prayers seeking God’s mercy. But they were unlucky. Our commanding officer ordered us not to waste any time.”
Confession of a Pakistani Soldier

The Guinness Book of Records lists the Bangladesh Genocide as one of the top 5 genocides in the 20th century.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 24 Sep 2010 18:55

A_Gupta wrote: is that the media was encoded

1.3gp at UTC 2009-05-26 08:51:15 and
2.3gp at UTC 2009-05-26 09:52:21

NY TImes:Pakistan Army Said to Be Linked to Swat Killings

September 14, 2009

Image : http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/200 ... ne.650.jpg

But the scale of the retaliation, the similarities in the way that many of the victims have been tortured and the systematic nature of the deaths and disappearances in areas that the military firmly controls have led local residents, human rights workers and some Pakistani officials to conclude that the military has had a role in the campaign.

Now, concerns over the army’s methods in the area threaten to further taint Washington’s association with the military, cooperation that has been questioned in Congress and has been politically unpopular in Pakistan.

MSM will not show this video.

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 24 Sep 2010 18:59

Is India practicing one of the 1000 names of Vishnu namely "Sahishnu" One who can suffer 100 mistakes patiently.(referring to Sisupal's 100 mistakes)
I never counted but since 1971 the 100 must have exceeded.

Its time for Mr.Sudharshan I guess

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 24 Sep 2010 19:08

America Using Afghan Forces To Pursue Militants Hiding In Pakistan

A US official has told that the CIA has assigned an Afghan paramilitary unit to hunt down Taliban and Al-Qaeda fighters in secret operations in Pakistan. Responding to claims made by renowned news reporter Bob Woodward in his new book, the official told that these counter terrorism teams were extremely effective but didn't provide any further details.

These explosive revelations are sure to strain America's relations with Pakistan as well as Kabul's complicated ties with Islamabad. The Pakistani government said that it didn't know anything about such force while the military strongly rejected its presence.

Commenting on the revelations about a US-backed unit operating in Pakistan, military spokesperson Major General Athar Abbas said: "No foreign body, no foreign militia, no foreign troops are allowed to operate on our side of the border. Anyone found doing so will be fired upon."