Indo-UK: News & Discussion

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 21 Sep 2010 12:36

Chinmayanand-ji, of course the UK has no constitution
(unless you include the magna carta which was written back in the mists of time when angle-land and the saxon occupied celtic homelands were becoming a french colony)

sunnyP · Post by **sunnyP** » 24 Sep 2010 19:48

UK Moslem org wants so called Hindu extremist banned. Funnily enough I've never heard this organisation campaign agains extremist Moslem preachers coming to the UK.

Hindutwa terrorist in UK Muslims outraged

British Indian Muslims have strongly condemned the issuance of entry visa to one of the Babri mosque demolisher Sadhvi Rithambara who arrived in Birmingham on 21 September 2010.

“The permission to a known terrorist like the so called priestess to enter into Britain and address public meetings is outrageous, shameful and shocking despite the fact that we had already drawn Home Secretaries Theresa May’s attention towards Sadhvi’s blatantly anti-Muslim and anti-Christian activities in India as we had done on her previous visit in 2007 by writing to the then Home Secretary Ms Jacqui Smith.” Chairman of Council of Indian Muslims—UK (CIM), Munaf Zeena said in a statement issued today.

http://www.coimuk.org/content/hindutwa- ... s-outraged

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 24 Sep 2010 20:15

Emotional plea over Pakistan politician's UK murder

The widow of a senior Pakistani politician murdered in London last week made a highly emotional appeal for help in catching his killers on Thursday as police said they were still investigating the reason for the attack.

He had been repeatedly stabbed and had suffered head injuries as he returned home from work

Farooq, inactive in politics for about two years, claimed asylum in Britain 11 years ago after more than seven years on the run from Pakistani police who accused him of involvement in murder and other serious crimes. He denied the charges.

His killing is being investigated by London police's Counter Terrorism Command. However, a police spokeswoman said this was because of Farooq's political profile rather than because detectives believed the murder was a political assassination.

"Detectives investigating the attack are keeping an open mind as to the motive behind this attack," said Detective Chief Superintendent Neil Basu(sdre name?). "I would like to reassure everyone that detectives are doing all they possibly can to catch those responsible."

UKstan fathered TSP.
reaping the decision to grant asylum to all TSPians, enjoy the show.
due to this success may give more courage to other brit pakis. Will UKstan see soosai bummers also.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 24 Sep 2010 20:18

SD-Fish-and-RE naam onlee
Neil Basu

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 25 Sep 2010 08:00

Queen tried to get UK poverty fund to heat palace

Even a monarch needs a little help from time to time — especially when the cost of heating those drafty old palaces spirals past $1.5 million a year.
But a request for assistance from a government fund that provides subsidized heating to low-income Britons has caused a spot of bother for Queen Elizabeth II, long one of the world's wealthiest women.

The documents quote an unidentified functionary as gently reminding the royal household that the program was meant for people in need, not the upper crust, and he noted the potential public relations disaster.

The 84-year-old monarch has royal residences across Britain, including Balmoral Castle in Scotland and Sandringham House in eastern England. Other residences, such as the Palace of Holyroodhouse in Edinburgh and St. James's Palace in London, are used as offices or for functions.
She has many other assets, including an extensive art collection and a fleet of the world's finest automobiles at her beck and call, although the royal yacht has been sold.

Insulation is poor and the heating system needs replacement, as do many of the windows, which lack proper glazing. Thermal imaging testing, used to identify and measure energy waste, showed heat escaping through palace windows, the roof and cracks in the walls.
Taxpayers fund the royal household to the tune of $60 million (38.2 million pounds) a year, which the monarch's official website points out costs Britain's 62 million people less than a dollar (62 pence) each.

The queen also receives $12.5 million (7.9 million pounds) of public money each year to pay for staff and other costs, an amount that has not risen in 20 years.
The accounts show the government spent more than $23.4 million (15 million pounds) on the upkeep of royal residences including Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle, and almost $6.2 million (4 million pounds) on royal travel.

Queen of the poor.

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 25 Sep 2010 21:22

It is interesting to note that Ed Miliband is elected as labour party leader.

sunnyP · Post by **sunnyP** » 25 Sep 2010 21:33

joshvajohn wrote:It is interesting to note that Ed Miliband is elected as labour party leader.

He's a left winger and man of the unions.

If, as expected, he takes the party back to the left then Labour will be unelectable for another decade.

Miliband snr's face when he lost was a classic.

Sanjay M · Post by **Sanjay M** » 26 Sep 2010 01:32

(BBC)Millibrain Elected Labour Party Leader

Hopefully the Tory-NDP coalition stays together, to keep Labour exiled to their winter of discontent.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 26 Sep 2010 03:29

Sanjay M wrote:(BBC)Millibrain Elected Labour Party Leader

Why are they trying so hard to proove Vinash Kaale, Viprit Buddhi!!
( Sarry, i did not know there were two Moolis-In-Bund in Labour of UK )

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 26 Sep 2010 06:24

^^^^
Yuvaraj is down as his dearest firangi friend lost the labour party elections what with dearest mommy is in US(not sure about it) to supply hankies.

No more chai biskoot sessions in some kalavati house.

arun · Post by **arun** » 26 Sep 2010 07:35

India's relationship with the Anglosphere will define the twenty-first century

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 26 Sep 2010 07:52

Which is why I remain sanguine about China.

Indians actually take the liberalism and democracy $hit seriously; this of course infuriates the Oriental, sneering at India for acting white.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 26 Sep 2010 10:12

^^^^
Only lip service. It is all about money and race

She is a potential counterbalance to China, and is, at this stage anyways, much farther ahead than China in the important area of liberty."

Yes, there are two emerging Asian giants and the one that we in the West must back is India, whose democratic and common law values are certainly preferable to those of Communist China. Traditionally, the West saw India as a threat. During the Cold War, the closeness of Indian with the USSR prompted the US to seek a better relationship with China. This was one of the factors which led to Richard Nixon's opening up of relations with Beijing in the 1970s. Fortunately, the Cold War is over and India is now leaning toward cooperation with the West, especially when it comes to dealing with Islamic extremism. If China was the key to counterbalancing India in the 70s, then India will be the key to counterbalancing China today. India will be a key partner in the coming decades, and the cultivation of a friendly relationship with India must be a top priority for Western politicians.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 26 Sep 2010 10:56

India's relationship with the Anglosphere will define the twenty-first century

Rather shoddy quality propagandu (f)article.

Acharya wrote:^^^^Only lip service. It is all about money and race

+1.

In any case, unglospheric mijjile maalish apart, its best to maintain cautious distance from the unglo types. Our mistrust of cheena is not and should not be mistaken for yaari-dosti with the unglospheric pied pipers.

The unglos are finally facing a real, non-gora challenger. {Assuming the slavs were accepted as pureblood goras by the unglos, which is doubtful}. This new non-gora challenger is one whose ambition rivals that of the west, so do its values, nationalism, mercantilism and amorality.

Sure, the west isn't going to fade away quietly into the night for sure. So some sorta post-modern confrontation is sure to happen.

If and when that confrontation happens, it will take myriad forms and be fought in hajaar theaters. It is singlularly Dilli's utmost responsibility to ensure we Yindians don't become cannon fodder coolies in gora wars {like we were in WW1 and WW2}. The West is welcome to fight its world-domination wars, but not to the last Indian. Oh no.

Too bad, the ageing west is getting too lazy, comfortable, old and broke to do some real, all-out warfighting in which the homeland is within range of sustained enemy action, eh?

The west would more likely have far better luck unleashing the islamist variety of rabid fundoos onto cheena, if they are serious about getting coolies to do their actual fighting. The Yindooze are no longer as amenable to manipulation, coercion or other sleazy tactics to do the coolie-ing. Not anymore.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 26 Sep 2010 18:41

Lots of

India 'snubs Charles over Games opening': Clarence House in row about whether Prince will perform ceremony

The Indian Government and Clarence House appeared to be at loggerheads last night over whether Prince Charles will be asked to declare the Games open.

Senior Indian Government aides claimed that President Pratibha Devisingh Patil and not Charles would officially declare the Games open next Sunday – the first time that the Royal Family has been denied this traditional honour.

The claims, made by officials from the Indian Department for Information and confirmed by sources from the Games’ Organising Committee, raise questions over whether the role of the Prince of Wales during his trip to Delhi next week has been downgraded.

However Clarence House insisted Charles will fulfil the duties originally intended for the Queen.

She asked the Prince to attend the opening ceremony in her place because of her hectic schedule.

It is the first time in 44 years – since the Games were held in Kingston, Jamaica in 1966 – that the Monarch has not attended any part of the event, and it was expected that Charles would read out a message of support to the athletes on behalf of the Queen.

But an Indian source said: ‘Although there has not been an official announcement, we have decided the President will open the Games. If the Queen was here it would be different. But she’s not.’

A spokeswoman for Clarence House said: ‘The Queen has asked the Prince to represent her in Delhi, and carry out the same duties she would perform if she was there. He will officially declare the Games open.’

If the Prince does not take part in the ceremony it will end one of the greatest traditions of the Games.

thayilv · Post by **thayilv** » 26 Sep 2010 18:55

It is the first time in 44 years – since the Games were held in Kingston, Jamaica in 1966 – that the Monarch has not attended any part of the event, and it was expected that Charles would read out a message of support to the athletes on behalf of the Queen.

Well, There's a first time for everything. It's high time the royal family got used to their decreasing relevance in today's world.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 26 Sep 2010 22:02

Prem wrote:
Sanjay M wrote:(BBC)Millibrain Elected Labour Party Leader
Why are they trying so hard to proove Vinash Kaale, Viprit Buddhi!!
( Sarry, i did not know there were two Moolis-In-Bund in Labour of UK )

This is really bad luck for the angrez. Doubled bad luck.

Even the one mooli would be too much to stomach.

These low lifes will make sure the sun never rises on the blighted land again.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 27 Sep 2010 02:44

Hari Seldon wrote:
+1.

One more comment by the anglo network

Go and check the history books, Greg. We've been out-gunned and out-numbered by our big neighbours across the English Channel and the North Sea since the year dot. And we've been a thorn in their side since Pontius was a Pilot. We've always done best by deciding our own policies, and forming alliances, as and when it was appropriate, to look after our own interests - and dumping them when they went negative. Cynical and opportunist? Yep, you bet. Rats don't survive by giving their predators an even break. People accuse us of being ruthless empire builders - but it never occurs to them to think about the number of countries who have raided this country, or tried to invade us. Like Spain, France, Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Ireland. And people think we're paranoid about Europe . . .

As far as the Anglosphere goes, I've met, and got on with, French, Dutch, Germans, Norwegians, Italians, Spaniards, Poles and Russians. But there's always been a gulf between us.

Yet, when I've met people from Australia, New Zealand, Tennessee, Mississippi, Georgia, Wyoming and Canada, I've always had that sense of connection. I don't agree with Dan Hannan that James Bennett 'invented' the Anglosphere - though I think he did a good job in recognising it, and bringing it to people's attention. Nor do I think (regardless of the side alleys run into by Grunt and FabSol) that it necessarily has anything to do with language; much more, I think, a case of shared values and principles. Example? Try this one.

As far as I know, throughout the Anglosphere, it's held as a principle that an accused person is deemed innocent until proven guilty. A mere twenty two miles from England, across in France, once accused, you are deemed guilty until proven innocent. And I understand it's the same throughout the rest of the EU, which works under the Napoleonic code, rather than the common law principle, as used in both England and the US.

As a policy, playing off one potential enemy against another has done us pretty well for the best part of two thousand years. I think it's good for a few more.

This is the sum of all the British policy for the last 1000 years.

"She is a potential counterbalance to China, and is, at this stage anyways, much farther ahead than China in the important area of liberty."

Yes, there are two emerging Asian giants and the one that we in the West must back is India, whose democratic and common law values are certainly preferable to those of Communist China. Traditionally, the West saw India as a threat. During the Cold War, the closeness of Indian with the USSR prompted the US to seek a better relationship with China. This was one of the factors which led to Richard Nixon's opening up of relations with Beijing in the 1970s. Fortunately, the Cold War is over and India is now leaning toward cooperation with the West, especially when it comes to dealing with Islamic extremism. If China was the key to counterbalancing India in the 70s, then India will be the key to counterbalancing China today. India will be a key partner in the coming decades, and the cultivation of a friendly relationship with India must be a top priority for Western politicians.

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 29 Sep 2010 23:42

Multi-Attack Terror Plot On European Cities

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-New ... nd_Germany

Imagine IF this had happened, and sooner or later it will.
Imagine if India's Foreign Sec had stood up at the site of a massacre and told the British governent "Unless you settle the issue of Bradford, Luton or East London these things will happen"

By the way does anyone on BR know if LeT or any of the other paki nutter groups have flags to id them?? just curious incase any are flown in the UK.

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 30 Sep 2010 08:33

^ Indian officials should make the same comments Brits make after the terrorists attack in India. Scoundrels understand only one language - tit for tat.

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 30 Sep 2010 11:17

"LABOUR & BRITISH MOSLEMS, CAN WE DREAM THE SAME DREAM?"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... tacks.html

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 30 Sep 2010 11:33

Let them dream of Caliphat. The buggers are selling out their country.

Whats with the liberals of andy country. Do they think that selling out their nation gets them closer to the the other side. Or do they hope that when the enemy of their nation wins thet will get a seat at the high table as the lap dogs.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 30 Sep 2010 13:15

The liberals of many countries are playing the good cop bad cop routine. Which works so long as they dont start drinking their own Kool Aid.

kittoo · Post by **kittoo** » 30 Sep 2010 13:26

Pratyush wrote:Let them dream of Caliphat. The buggers are selling out their country.

Whats with the liberals of andy country. Do they think that selling out their nation gets them closer to the the other side. Or do they hope that when the enemy of their nation wins thet will get a seat at the high table as the lap dogs.

The irony is that if and when a complete takeover is done, liberals get thrown out first.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 30 Sep 2010 16:32

Sanku wrote:The liberals of many countries are playing the good cop bad cop routine. Which works so long as they dont start drinking their own Kool Aid.

Sanku ji,

No issues with playing good cop bad cop. But they surely drinking their own cool aid.

PS:- on an OT note, A few years ago I had read the Autobiography of JLN. What struck me was his expression of disgust towards the liberal party of India. Am forgetting the name of the leader mentioned by him. Also that they were so completely incapable of grasping the essence of nationalism and were devoid of the capacity of independent thought.

I found it strange that the great man spend so much time and so many pages questioning the Indian liberals.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 30 Sep 2010 16:40

I used to think:

UKstan's, indeed rest-of-oirostan's list of colonial crimes is so long, a few centuries under sharia barely evens the karmic account.

But I'm not so sure anymore. Let's not forget the nooks etc and other hi-tech oriostan currently has. That may fall into radical hands down the line, as demography eventually becomes EU's destiny. OK, even that last part is no sure thing. Time will tell which side in this 'Eurabia' debate was closer to the truth, I guess.

rohiths · Post by **rohiths** » 30 Sep 2010 19:09

Hari Seldon wrote:I used to think:
UKstan's, indeed rest-of-oirostan's list of colonial crimes is so long, a few centuries under sharia barely evens the karmic account.
But I'm not so sure anymore. Let's not forget the nooks etc and other hi-tech oriostan currently has. That may fall into radical hands down the line, as demography eventually becomes EU's destiny. OK, even that last part is no sure thing. Time will tell which side in this 'Eurabia' debate was closer to the truth, I guess.

The neighboring pureland also has nooks and mizzles. No additional effect on Yindoos. Let allah bless UQstan with Sharia

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 30 Sep 2010 22:35

Haresh wrote:"LABOUR & BRITISH MOSLEMS, CAN WE DREAM THE SAME DREAM?"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... tacks.html

From being British to BCs, what kind of dream is this , a nightmare for any sane fellow or Goatnight-mare for every insane fellow. End of UQ as we know of , sigh the downfall so neigh.

Chinmayanand · Post by **Chinmayanand** » 03 Oct 2010 14:31

This is what the Economist has to say for Miliband , the clown :

Ed Miliband, Labour’s new leader, might not be the ‘Red Ed’ of caricature. But he might not be electable, either

Red, ready or neither?

Ameet · Post by **Ameet** » 04 Oct 2010 10:50

School in London outsources maths classes to India

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 680563.cms

BSEC has employed around 100 maths graduates for the purpose, who are paid £7 an hour.

The lessons, designed for children between seven and 16, cost £12 an hour; and parents sign up for blocks of two or five hours. The students appear to be excited about the project. BBC quoted several 10-year-olds saying this. Adam, a student, said: "It's fun because it's on the computer and not doing it on your books." Another student Rosa added: "It's fun because you're talking to someone from somewhere else."

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 05 Oct 2010 08:48

UK 'on cusp of second banking failure'

http://bigpondnews.com/articles/World/2 ... 21626.html

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 05 Oct 2010 08:51

UK troops killed by Afghan policeman 'needed more guns'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11446184

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 06 Oct 2010 11:28

British terror suspect 'was head of The Islamic Army of Great Britain'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... itain.html

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 06 Oct 2010 13:06

just discovered yesterday that ed mili's chief of staff is a gentleman of pakistani descent
which explains a lot...
rather surprising given that ed and dave are north london jews - who are known for a particular political slant on world affairs...
anyway, aforementioned gentleman appears to be in some hot water with parliamentary supervisory body over electoral irregularities... lets see where that goes

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 07 Oct 2010 00:09

Lalmohan,

Do you have a link??? or source?

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 07 Oct 2010 14:22

Eight Nobel prize-winning British scientists have criticised the David Cameron government's decision to impose an annual limit on professionals from India and other countries outside the European Union, saying it deprives Britain's science and industry of talent.

The annual cap has under sharp focus after this week's announcement that two Russian-born scientists at the University of Manchester, Professor Andre Geim and Professor Konstantin Novoselov, won the Nobel prize for Physics.

Besides Geim and Novoselov, another foreign-born scientist based in Britain to win the Nobel prize was Tamil Nadu-born Venkatraman Ramakrishnan, who won the prize for Chemistry in 2009.

He is based at the Laboratory of Molecular Biology, University of Cambridge.

In a letter to 'The Times', the eight scientists said the new immigration restrictions imposed by the Cameron government would deprive science and industry of talent.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/uk-no ... ap/693895/

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 07 Oct 2010 14:25

haresh - saw it on evening standard

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 07 Oct 2010 17:28

Lalmohan,

found the link:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/ ... ailshot.do

Just shows how devious the islamists are at infiltrating politics in the UK/west.

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 07 Oct 2010 21:48

David Cameron: Cuts won't be easy but there is no alternative
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010 ... lternative

The cuts should not be too quickly. It brings down the soul of the country.
People are scared and are afraid of everything. This is not correct.

It is better to do this slowly. While Banks need to get back and give more support for filling up the gaps, people should be given another opportunity for standing on their own.

Child benefit cuts should not be made unless there is another support system is also developed. For example a centric approach would be good in which people can go to work and so they will not loose their support immediately rather reduced in a phase manner.

There should also be systems for looking after the children and voluntary support system for helping the poor. There should be some charitable institution to support those who fall out of their jobs and systems. The government can work through the religious institutions which can also bring back some cultural and religious values into people's mind.

It is better to do the cuts in a slow phase rather than giving everyone a shock and also loosing people's confidence too soon.

shyam · Post by **shyam** » 08 Oct 2010 07:40

Britain has to maintain the strength of its currency. If pound sterling goes down, Britain will lose the advantages it enjoyed with London as the world's financial center. It may prefer to have some poor citizens instead of losing the levereage it has over other countries.