Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 03, 2010

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 30 Sep 2010 22:11

^^^ A country that has spend half of its existence under military rule. A country whose army killed 3 millions of its oun citizens and are even now killling their own is calling for India to account.

Wonders never sieze

Rahul Shukla · Post by **Rahul Shukla** » 30 Sep 2010 22:33

Rahul Shukla (Pg. 48) wrote:Hilary Clinton Wants Pakistan To Start Paying Its Fair Share (NPR)

"This is one of my pet peeves: Countries that will not tax their elites but expect us to come in and help them serve their people are just not going to get the kind of help from us that they have been getting," Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told an audience Tuesday at the U.S. Global Leadership Coalition conference.

"Pakistan cannot have a tax rate of 9 percent of GDP when land owners and all of the other elites do not pay anything or pay so little it's laughable, and then when there's a problem everybody expects the United States and others to come in and help," Clinton said to a round of applause. She noted that Pakistan's finance minister is now presenting a package of economic and tax reforms.

Pakistan's president wants 'flood tax' (UPI)

"Unless we are prepared to share bread with our grief and disaster-stricken brethren, we should not expect others to help us," Zardari said in a Dawn News report.

"A one-time flood tax will have to be imposed on the well-off, and people of means, to help shore up relief and rehabilitation efforts," Zardari said.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 30 Sep 2010 22:48

10% Flood Tax by Chance !! To avoid any chance of misuse, the tax ought to be deposited directly into Swiss bank account to be handled by Bilawal Zardari. Seriously folks, here India waste 10Billion on CWG and there Poaks having sleeveless nights with various cutomers to earn little tp show any semblence of flood releif efforts. How long are they going to survive competeing with India on every imaginary ground inc Islam ?

Not much , the strain to their social,economic fabric soon gonna tear them apart like Bush did to Mush.

Rahul Shukla · Post by **Rahul Shukla** » 30 Sep 2010 23:31

A Pakistani poet living in Queens, NY has major khujli with the current affairs of his native country. He wrote a poem on the recent Indus valley floods titled "Ae rukh-e-sailaab" (The direction of the flood) but it is in urdu only. I am willing to pay extra jaziya to any learned scholar who translates the literary works of Mr. Khalid Irfan for the linguistically chanllenged kafirs like your's truly...

Link 1: Ae rukh-e-sailaab
Link 2: Kisi ne mulk, kisi ne mushaaira loota
Link 3: Untitled

Here's a sample of his work:

I accept your invitation but please be reminded,
You can serve beer of any brand but I’d like Chicken Fried as ‘halal’ only

He should be an honorary member of Benis.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 30 Sep 2010 23:46

The SWAT massacre video has made its way to Burqa Dutt's NDTV dot com. It would be interesting to see what spin they'll put to sanctify the Pakis this time..

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 01 Oct 2010 00:40

Can they get any more comical than this?

Protests in Pakistan after Ayodhya judgement

Islamabad: After the Allahabad High Court gave its judgement in the Ayodhya case on Thursday, sporadic protests were reported from some Pakistani cities as Religious Affairs Minister Hamid Saeed Kazmi claimed the ruling favoured the Hindu community.

A traders' union organised a protest in the central city of Multan against the judgement to split the disputed site between Hindus and Muslims.

The members of the union shouted slogans against the court's ruling. The Sunni Tehrik organised a protest at Hyder Chowk in the southern city of Hyderabad.

Dozens of protesters shouted slogans and burnt tyres. Members of the Sunni Tehrik rejected the court's verdict, saying it went against the wishes of Muslims

They said they would organise more protests if the Pakistan government accepts the court's ruling. They also called on the government to sever diplomatic and economic ties with India.

At both Multan and Hyderabad, the protestors burnt effigies and posters of Indian leaders.

In Islamabad, Religious Affairs Minister Kazmi said the Indian court had issued a "political verdict" on the Babri mosque issue that was "totally in favour of the Hindu community".

Muslims in India have been deprived of their rights due to the one-sided decision on the Mosque, Kazmi told state-run PTV.

"The court cited Babri mosque as the birthplace of (Lord) Ram and recommended a little piece of land for Muslims like a donation," he said.

The decision to distribute the land among Muslims and Hindus is complicated and will create problems for the faithful in offering prayers, he claimed. He asked Indian Muslims to file an appeal in the Supreme Court and to make more efforts to protect their rights.

"In Pakistan, we have always raised our voice against any injustice with the minority communities, while in India, the state is not showing solidarity with the Muslims," he alleged.

Kazmi asked people from all walks of life to raise their voice against the "unjust decision".

Some religious leaders condemned the court's verdict, saying it disclosed the real face of India.

"We condemn this verdict. We reject it as well. This will create resentment on an international level," said Sahibzada Fazle Karim, a senior member of the Jamiat Ulema-e-Pakistan.

The Organisation of the Islamic Conference should take serious steps on the issue, he contended. Noted cleric Allama Abbas Kumaili described the decision as unjustified.

"We condemn the court's verdict," he said. He claimed the court was under the "influence of the majority Hindus. It is a diplomatic decision," said Ruet-e-Hilal Committee chief Mufti Muneeb-ur-Rehman. He said Indian Muslims should keep the peace.

"I appeal to Indian Muslims not to take to violence. The way of protests should be peaceful," he added.

shynee · Post by **shynee** » 01 Oct 2010 01:12

Just saw this entire video on CNN

Ambar wrote:The SWAT massacre video has made its way to Burqa Dutt's NDTV dot com. It would be interesting to see what spin they'll put to sanctify the Pakis this time..

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 01 Oct 2010 01:19

shynee wrote:Just saw this entire video on CNN

Ambar wrote:The SWAT massacre video has made its way to Burqa Dutt's NDTV dot com. It would be interesting to see what spin they'll put to sanctify the Pakis this time..

I think that it may be the same one.

I read an article
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/30/world ... an.html?hp about pakistani military execution of pashtuns on nytimes and followed to this link for the actual video posted by some pashtun association

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php ... 254&ref=mf

A horrible video if you have the stomach for it. Look at the guns and snazzy uniforms of the pakistani army supplied by aid from america.

Kanishka · Post by **Kanishka** » 01 Oct 2010 01:29

Brad Goodman wrote:Can they get any more comical than this?

Protests in Pakistan after Ayodhya judgement

Yes, you are right. Jokers- that's what they are.
So it is not surprising bakis will do what they do best.
Spin, spin and spin.

I am enjoying this.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 01 Oct 2010 01:39

Brad Goodman wrote: Protests in Pakistan after Ayodhya judgement
It is a diplomatic decision," said Ruet-e-Hilal Committee chief Mufti Muneeb-ur-Rehman. He said Indian Muslims should keep the peace.

"I appeal to Indian Muslims not to take to violence. The way of protests should be peaceful," he added.

Now the Mufti would start claiming credit for the peace that the Indian Muslims keep.

Manny · Post by **Manny** » 01 Oct 2010 01:58

They have removed that FACEBOOK video..but its here on You tube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69_K4vnhxec

saip · Post by **saip** » 01 Oct 2010 02:08

RajeshA wrote:Protests in Pakistan after Ayodhya judgement
It is a diplomatic decision," said Ruet-e-Hilal Committee chief Mufti Muneeb-ur-Rehman. He said Indian Muslims should keep the peace.

"I appeal to Indian Muslims not to take to violence. The way of protests should be peaceful," he added.
Now the Mufti would start claiming credit for the peace that the Indian Muslims keep.

I am hoping there are riots in Pakistani cities and several are killed (like it happened after the cartoons - I know only a few died) and this time in hundreds -- they are all will be good pakistanis!

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 01 Oct 2010 02:54

Singha wrote:who has most to gain from a domestic US outcry over the video - the PA itself, saying we need to pull back and be more careful lest such
incidents happen again. with a bunch of armed firing squad , this could not have been a spy video, but taken by PA itself and deftly released to see how the world reacts.

I doubt it.

There is only so much of processing that the two weather beaten neurons of a PA corpse jernail's glans can do. It was a spy cam no doubt. And that too taken by an authorized or person of authority. Could be a paki or khan contractor/paramils. This timing of release and slow western media buildup has khan's pugmarks allover it. They waited for a lot of stuff to align. The sauve RAPE jernails are already admitting it as true, which means they know khan is going to open more videos if they dont do some unknown GUBO. The meesha-madhavan types seem to be the ones stopping kerosene and atta supplies to NATO

As for the friendly Indian journo that talked to some Adminullah here, why equal-equal with some Kashmiri videos that might or might not exist? Khan people's tax money at work against civilians - now that is an equal equal that needs some creative logic

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 01 Oct 2010 03:42

google search has posted me 20 links for the SWAT Massacre including reuters so alamdulillah TSPA ghairat is getting some serious chot

Reuters

Aljazeera

Channel 4

Washington Post

nice comment

After viewing the graphic video on Wednesday, one Obama administration official said: "There are things you can fake, and things you can't fake. You can't fake this."

The Age

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 01 Oct 2010 03:48

Step 1. Attack nato, acquire many sets of 72 raisins.
Step 2. Close border.
Step 3. bonfire
Step 4. Profit??

So is this what the underpants gnomes had really planned?

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 01 Oct 2010 03:51

Pakistan in grip of virtual conspiracies

written by shamshul hasan the paki high commissioner in londonistan. Defending PPP against kanspiracies of media

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 01 Oct 2010 04:20

Apology if this has been reported earlier........

Asif Zardari Authorized CIA To Kill Pakistanis With US Drone-
Missiles:
The Washington Post

By SYED ADEEB

(InformPress.com) - The Washington Post has reported that PPP
Co-Chairman Asif Ali Zardari, an infamous CIA Actor, illegally
authorized the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to unlawfully
murder thousands of innocent Pakistani citizens in Pakistan with
American military/CIA drone-bombs.

The Washington Post news report of 23 September 2010, headlined "CIA
Drones Killed U.S. Citizens in Pakistan, Book Says", states:

[American] CIA drones killed "many Westerners, including some U.S.
passport holders" in Pakistan's tribal area during the George W. Bush
administration, the new book by Bob Woodward says. Woodward, a
longtime Washington Post journalist, writes in "Obama's Wars" that
then-CIA Director Gen. Michael Hayden disclosed the killings to
Pakistani [PPP] president Asif Ali Zardari during a meeting in New
York on Nov. 12, 2008. Hayden was succeeded by Leon J. Panetta in
2009. Hayden and his deputy, Stephen Kappes, had gone to meet with
Zardari, elected only two months earlier, to gauge his reaction to
the
[US] drone strikes, which were generating widespread protests in
Pakistan.

According to Woodward's account of the meeting, Zardari said:
"Kill the seniors. Collateral damage worries you Americans. It
does not worry me."

Hayden had told Zardari that "many Westerners, including some U.S.
passport holders, had been killed five days earlier on the Kam Sham
training camp in the tribal area of North Warziristan," Woodward
writes. "But the CIA would not reveal the particulars due to the
implications under American law."

"A top secret CIA map detailing the attacks had been given to the
Pakistanis," Woodward continues. "Missing from it was the alarming
fact about the American deaths … The CIA was not going to elaborate."

On Friday the [US] Justice Department faces a deadline to respond to
a
suit by two [American] human rights groups [American Civil Liberties
Union (ACLU) and Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR)] challenging
the Obama administration's 'right' to kill U.S. citizen Anwar
al-Awlaki, a [Muslim-Arab-American] based in Yemen.

Pakistan Army's Lt. General (R) Zakir Ali Zaidi recently told the
PressTV.com of Iran that American military/CIA drone-missile attacks
on innocent Pakistanis have illegally violated Pakistan's
sovereignty/integrity and the United Nations international laws. "Our
[Pakistani] people do not like the presence of the United States in
our country and they do not like these drone attacks. Our [Pakistani]
civilian population is being annihilated totally in those [Khyber and
FATA] areas", [General] Zaidi said, adding that the United Nations
(UN) has failed to take action against the killings, because 'the UN
is an arm of the US'."

America's Human Rights Justice Forum (HRJF.net) has strongly demanded
that Pakistan Army Chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, Pakistan Air
Force (PAF) head Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman, Pakistan Navy
Chief Admiral Noman Bashir, JCSC Chairman General Tariq Majid, ISI
Chief Lt. General Ahmad Shuja Pasha and MIP Chief Major General
Naushad Ahmed Kayani must immediately resign now, because they have
deliberately failed to stop US military/CIA drone-bomb attacks on
Pakistan.

The Fairfax, Virginia-based HRJF has also vigorously urged Pakistan
Army's patriotic officers, judges/justices, prosecutors, police
forces, lawyers, journalists, millions of nationalist Pakistanis,
InterPol, ICC and the United Nations to bring PPP Co-Chairman Asif
Ali
Zardari, PPP PM Yousuf Raza Gilani, PML-Q/MQM ex-president Pervez
Musharraf and PML-Q ex-PM Shaukat Aziz to legal justice now, because
Zardari, Gilani, Musharraf and Aziz - the four notorious corrupt
criminals/traitors - intentionally failed to stop American
military/CIA drone-bomb attacks on Pakistan; they unlawfully allowed
US drone-missile strikes on Pakistani citizens; and they also
illegally murdered thousands of innocent Pakistani civilians with US
drone bombs.

The Washington Post News:

CIA Drones Killed U.S. Citizens in Pakistan, Book Says
By Jeff Stein
http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e26436.htm

[Mr. Syed Adeeb is America's investigative journalist, Chief Editor
of the Information Press - InformPress.com - AdeebMedia.com -
AdeebPress.com - SyedAdeeb.net - Director of the Human Rights Justice
Forum - HRJF.net - and Director of the Journalists Scholars Forum
(JSF) based in Virginia, USA. - Thursday, 23 September 2010]

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 01 Oct 2010 05:15

Sharif sold Kashmir to India, led to Kargil: Musharraf
http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/sep/ ... harraf.htm

Defending his actions during the Kargil crisis of 1999, Musharraf who was the then army chief, claimed that Sharif was aware of the Pakistani military's actions when Pakistani troops occupied strategic heights along the Line of Control [ Images ] in Jammu and Kashmir [ Images ] before they were evicted by Indian forces in July 1999.
"If you are going for peace by selling Kashmir and giving up your national interest, is that the peace that you want? No sir. Honour and dignity demands that you have peace with honour and dignity," he said during an interaction with the Intelligence Squared debating forum in London [ Images ] on Wednesday. Kargil was only "one element of a long history", he said.
He claimed that Sharif's efforts to make peace with his Indian counterpart then Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee [ Images ] at the cost of 'selling Kashmir' had resulted in the Kargil episode.
"What makes you think I declared war without the Prime Minister's knowledge? Please don't think so. Whatever had been done was in the knowledge of everyone," he told a questioner during the nearly 90-minute interaction. The original version of the joint declaration drafted after Vajpayee visited Lahore [ Images ] at Sharif's invitation made no mention of the Kashmir issue, Musharraf claimed. The retired general said he had insisted that the issue should be included in the document.The former military strongman also accused India of trying to create an 'anti-Pakistan' Afghanistan and said this has prompted Islamabad [ Images ] to take counter-measures to protect its interests.
Musharraf also accused Indian intelligence agencies of backing Baloch nationalist leaders based in Afghanistan. "There is no doubt in my mind, with all the proof, (that) India is trying to create an anti-Pakistan Afghanistan ...that is what is stabbing us in the back. Therefore we need to take counter measures as Pakistanis," he said.In an apparent reference to Jamhoori Watan Party leader Brahamdagh Khan Bugti, the grandson of slain Baloch nationalist leader Nawab Akbar Bugti, Musharraf said: "Even today, the main person who is involved in terrorism in Balochistan is sitting in Kabul. We know the house that he sits in and we know that when he goes to Delhi [ Images ], he is received by the intelligence, RAW

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 01 Oct 2010 05:29

New Poll: Pakistanis Hate the Drones, Back Suicide Attacks on U.S. Troops ( AND LUV $ IN CASH AID

)

Read More http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/09 ... z113ueTrLR

There’s more bad news for Panetta and his boss in the White House. A plurality of respondents in the tribal areas say that the U.S. is primarily responsible for violence in the region. Nearly 90 percent want the U.S. to stop pursuing militants in their backyard and nearly 60 percent are fine with suicide bombings directed at the Americans. That comes as NATO accelerates incursions into Pakistan. Just this morning, it announced that a pursuit of insurgents in Afghanistan’s Paktiya Province led to a U.S. helicopter shooting at the militants from Pakistani airspace. Enraged Pakistani officials responded by shutting down a critical NATO supply line into Afghanistan.
Whatever NATO says, very few in the tribal regions are inclined to believe the U.S. is in Afghanistan and occasionally in Pakistan to fight terrorism. They think the U.S. is waging “larger war on Islam or… an effort to secure oil and minerals in the region.”On the brighter side, wide majorities in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas disapprove of al Qaeda (over three-quarters), the Pakistani Taliban (over two-thirds) and the Afghan Taliban (60 percent). There’s also strong support for the Pakistani army: almost 70 percent want the army to directly confront al Qaeda and the Taliban in the region; 79 percent say they wouldn’t mind if the tribal area were run by the army

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/09 ... z113uPWOIB

tejas · Post by **tejas** » 01 Oct 2010 05:30

"In Pakistan, we have always raised our voice against any injustice with the minority communities, while in India, the state is not showing solidarity with the Muslims," he alleged.

Yes indeed. Kafirs have all kinds of rights in Pukistan. Such as the right to the death penalty for "blashpheming" the "prophet." The good news is that none of the people so far charged for this heinous crime have been found guilty in a court. The bad news is they have all been murdered on the court steps before ever stepping foot in court.

Rangudu · Post by **Rangudu** » 01 Oct 2010 05:37

Two reports suggesting that Unkil is threatening TSP more bluntly as the Afghan deadline nears. CIA chief did the penetration on Assphuq Kayani in Isloo while top Senators and other biggies made Liar Qureshi bend over in DC.

CIA chief takes tough line on drone hits

...

Mr Panetta hinted that although the US government did not doubt Pakistan’s sincerity and commitment in the war on terror, it feared that they might be having support of some hidden hands.

Sources said the Pakistani leaders were stunned by Mr Panetta’s menacing tone and assured him of intensifying the military offensive against militants in the tribal areas.

Tough US warning on militant attacks into Afghanistan

Pakistan received a stern message from the United States on Thursday — stop cross-border attacks into Afghanistan or face the consequences.

The message was delivered forcefully by both US lawmakers and administration officials.

Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi, who is in Washington, received the message from Senator John Kerry on Wednesday and from Senator Carl Levin and Congressman Howard Berman on Thursday.

Senator Levin chairs the Senate Armed Services Committee, while Mr Berman chairs the House Foreign Relations Committee.

The Pakistani delegation that participated in the talks came back with the feeling that the Americans were becoming “more and more assertive and less apologetic” on this issue.

The Americans argued that the Haqqani network and other insurgents were using their bases in Fata to attack US and Nato forces. They urged the Pakistanis to “make the strategic decisions they have to make to help resolve the Afghan conflict” or the Americans would be forced to use their military might to subdue the militants.

At the Pentagon, spokesman Col Dave Lapan strongly defended US troops blamed for accidentally killing three Pakistani soldiers in a raid along the Afghan border earlier Thursday.

The colonel noted that a statement released by Islamabad showed that Pakistani troops had fired their rifles, “as a warning”, at US helicopters taking part in the raid.

“You fire at a helicopter in a combat zone, they usually take that as hostile and return fire,” the Pentagon official said.

saip · Post by **saip** » 01 Oct 2010 06:05

At the same time, a video surfaced showing stoning of a woman in Orakzai by Taliban

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... its--bi-03

What video are they talking about?

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 01 Oct 2010 06:28

saip wrote:
At the same time, a video surfaced showing stoning of a woman in Orakzai by Taliban
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... its--bi-03

What video are they talking about?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f7f_1285099569

Kanishka · Post by **Kanishka** » 01 Oct 2010 07:02

More ethnic cleansing?
3 Bengalis gunned down in September
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 10_pg12_10

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 01 Oct 2010 07:06

From
Wrt to reports suggesting that Unkil is threatening TSP more bluntly ...10%'s response in one cartoonist point of view...

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 01 Oct 2010 07:17

^^^ Same story..

spin ..Violation of sovereignty unacceptable, US told

ISLAMABAD: The country on Thursday told the US that any violation of its sovereignty was unacceptable.

In separate meetings with CIA Director Leon Panetta, President Asif Ali Zardari and Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani stressed that there was a need to enhance trust cooperation and coordination at the strategic, policy and operational levels.

The president, during the meeting, said that the fight against militancy and terrorism remained the highest priority and the government was determined to pursue its struggle against militancy until its logical end. He said that there was a need to enhance trust, cooperation and coordination at the strategic, policy and operational planes. Capacity enhancement of the Pakistan security apparatus is very crucial, the president said.

The president said the government strongly disapproved any incident of violation of its sovereignty. “Any violation of internationally agreed principles is counter productive and unacceptable,” he said, adding that Dr Aafia’s sentence was being perceived as harsh and disproportionate and had led to protests in the country.

The PM expressed concern over the increasing drone attacks and violation of Pakistan’s airspace by NATO and ISAF helicopters.

The PM, underscoring the importance of intelligence sharing and cooperation between Pakistan and the US, said that US and ISAF forces should share credible and actionable information with Pakistan’s forces, enabling them to take required action against possible threats in the bordering areas with Afghanistan. He, however, said that Pakistan being a front-line ally in the war against terror expects its partners to respect its territorial sovereignty.

The PM also conveyed the disappointment of the people and government of Pakistan over the excessive and unfair tenure of sentence given to Dr Aafia Siddiqui by a US court last week. The harsh sentencing had further fueled the anti-American sentiments in the country, he added.

The PM said that despite the catastrophic flood and consequent precarious economic situation, Pakistan remained resolutely committed to the war against terror as it considered success in the war vital not only for peace, stability and economic development of its own people, but for the world at large.

Leon E Panetta appreciated the PM’s leadership and reconciliatory policies to tackle important national and regional issues.

There is also report that 10% sacrifices 1 black goat daily to ward off CIA's evil eye.. The picture of the sacrificee is here and story is below:
President Zardari wards off ‘Evil Eye”, kills Black Goats;

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 01 Oct 2010 08:37

JuD: Resolve Kashmir or face violence everywhere

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/JuD-- ... ere/690874

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 01 Oct 2010 08:40

Pakistan takes UN sparring to new low

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Pakis ... low/690870

archan · Post by **archan** » 01 Oct 2010 08:48

abhishek_sharma wrote:Pakistan takes UN sparring to new low

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Pakis ... low/690870

Pakistan demanded a second right to reply and this time, while claiming to be a “principal stakeholder” in Jammu and Kashmir

I wonder what the Kashmiris think about that.

shynee · Post by **shynee** » 01 Oct 2010 08:56

Brigade 313’ prepares plan to attack Commonwealth Games

It can be confirmed that al Qaeda and a group based in North Waziristan calling itself “Brigade 313”, which is made up of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan and allied extremist group members, including Lashkar-e-Tayyaba and Karachi-based Jandullah, has prepared a plan to attack the 19th Commonwealth Games, which are due to be held in News Delhi from October 3 to October 14, Daily Times has learnt.

It has also been confirmed that some of the information originated from a German national named, Ahmed Siddiqui, 36, who has been caught in Kabul under suspicion of carrying out a terrorist plot in the West. The intelligence about such an attack had also been passed on to the Indians.

The Interior Ministry, along with various security establishments in Pakistan, after the news that there could have been another terrorist plot originating from Pakistan are in a ‘state of panic’, where according to one senior ministry member, “We are seriously investigating and taking all precautions that we could and have been extra-vigilant. Surely another 26/11 or a high-profile terrorist incident now in India would definitely be a major blow, something that none of us wants.”

A New Delhi based security analyst, Bharat Swami, told Daily Times, “Another attack from Pakistan would leave India no other option but to target militant camps inside Pakistan and could end all diplomatic relations with Pakistan.”

The Pakistani Foreign Office’s spokesman declined to comment on the story, but termed it ‘baseless’. Western diplomat in close contact with security officials told Daily Times that, “This is what we fear the most… we all have our fingers crossed on this one, but if such an incident does take place, we will be packing our bags.”

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 01 Oct 2010 09:00

Indian Express publishes pictures of killings in Swat Valley

http://epaper.indianexpress.com/IE/IEH/ ... tml?Mode=1

sum · Post by **sum** » 01 Oct 2010 09:43

Ball biter uvacha:
India has never supported Pak cricket: Afridi

The Pakistan Cricket Board should stop relying on India or any other Asian nation for support and become self reliant in solving its problems, says the national team's ODI and Twenty20 skipper.

Asked about the continued absence of the Pakistani national Twenty20 champions from the lucrative Champions League, the second edition of which concluded last week in Johannesburg, Afridi said India has never been supportive of Pakistan cricket.

"Leave alone the Champions League, tell me when has India ever supported Pakistan cricket?" Afridi told 'Geo Channel'.

"The truth is we have always been there to support India, Sri Lanka or Bangladesh but when time came for them to support us, they left us isolated.

But the most important part is:

"The truth is it is time we realised that not only India or Sri Lanka, Pakistan does not have many friends internationally and it is time we learned to become self reliant and find solutions to problems ourselves," he added.

putnanja · Post by **putnanja** » 01 Oct 2010 09:59

abhishek_sharma wrote:Pakistan takes UN sparring to new low

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Pakis ... low/690870

Hey, pakistanis can define a new low. There is no lower limit to the "low"ness or stupidity that the pakis can stoop to.

For every new low that the pakistani stoops to, there will always come a time when they will stoop even lower.

amit · Post by **amit** » 01 Oct 2010 10:08

putnanja wrote:
Pakistan takes UN sparring to new low

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Pakis ... low/690870
Hey, pakistanis can define a new low. There is no lower limit to the "low"ness or stupidity that the pakis can stoop to.

For every new low that the pakistani stoops to, there will always come a time when they will stoop even lower.

I for one am very happy with how the Pakis played to the script, written by Kiya-nahi. This should nicely prick the trail balloon launched by Gotus on Kashmir for UNSC nonsense.

Afterall the Pakis want nothing less the plebiscite according to UN resolution da da da.

Nihat · Post by **Nihat** » 01 Oct 2010 11:13

I would be very happy if the External affairs ministry does not issue any more statements as a reply to this, we are way above all this non-sense. Pakis can go ahead and fry themselves in their own oil of hatred, this has nothing to do with India. Replying to TSP on J&K is tantamount to an == by GoI only, and no indian needs to hear that.

amdavadi · Post by **amdavadi** » 01 Oct 2010 11:13

If paquis are not around 10 years from now. What will happen to plebicite? would valley Roper would merge with pakjabi or taller than
mountain breather sitting in balwaristan?

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 01 Oct 2010 11:30

Hari Seldon wrote:
This is a country that is crying out to be dismantled. The cancer source is clear and specific, and it is a relatively small community. If this community is thoroughly disrupted, and it can be done, then Pakisatan will cease to be a problem for the world - and will only be a problem for what remains in that geographic space. The issue is that radiation therapy is not an option. At least not yet.

With their tactical brilliance, Pakisatan may solve this conundrum too.
Brilliantly articulated, JEM saar. +1 only.

Very well put JEM saab....to me Pakistan is similar to a venomous snake...all that has to be done is to cut its fangs....now in reality...fangs=Nukes? or fangs=Wahabbi extremism? which one is beneficial in long term for India? and which one is easy to neutralize? nukes or Wahabbi extremism?

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 01 Oct 2010 11:59

Nihat wrote:I would be very happy if the External affairs ministry does not issue any more statements as a reply to this, we are way above all this non-sense. Pakis can go ahead and fry themselves in their own oil of hatred, this has nothing to do with India. Replying to TSP on J&K is tantamount to an == by GoI only, and no indian needs to hear that.

India should simply say, we don't entertain the views of terrorists. Period!

Shankk · Post by **Shankk** » 01 Oct 2010 12:22

amdavadi wrote:If paquis are not around 10 years from now. What will happen to plebicite? would valley Roper would merge with pakjabi or taller than mountain breather sitting in balwaristan?

Pakis are not going anywhere. Their three and half friends each representing a distinct world view needs Pakistan in current form for various different reasons. Saudis or Turkey do not want Pakistan divided or attacked on if they can help it. China needs it to box India and as a conduit to Islamic world. America needs it for...well it is very well known.

It is quite certain that no borders are changing unless there is a major war in this world. India neither has power nor has willingness to fight the world for the purpose of dividing Pakistan. For some reason if interests are aligned enough and more countries clamour for division of Pakistan they will have to face the paranoid Pakistan just as India has been facing since inception. Nobody wants to start any war where nuclear weapons can be potentially used.

Given the situation and the past experience it is prudent to not rely on a some random possibility as a matter of policy. India should up the ante with the help of Indian muslims by questioning the creation of Pakistan. Argue that the idea of creation of Pakistan is based on wrong interpretation of Islam. Puncture their arguments on J&K on this very basis of the creation of Pakistan. If Islam represented by IMs questions openly about the motives and purpose of Pakistan creation it is difficult for Pakistan to argue against muslims of sub-continent.

I was told some wierd fear that Pakistanis will use this argument to re-emerge with India. This is a totally absurd idea. RAPES will not let that happen for vested interests. They can sell their own islamic brothers so easily to hold on to power then why would they willingly dilute their power by reuniting with India? The idea of giving up land won by Islam goes against the fundamental basics of Islamism that Pakistan represents. Besides 3.5 friends have vested interests in such a case not happening.

I mean seriously, there is a reason why Pakistanis call Hindus cowards. We are creating our own fears in our own mind and telling that to Pakistanis. Tomorrow if India decides to call Pakistani bluff and refuse to be deterred by Pakistani nukes in the event of terrorist attack, Pakistan will simply threaten that war with India will create a huge refugee problem for India. How many more years we will spend fearing to this new threat and accept more terrorist attacks and belligerence on the part of Pakistan?

Ameet · Post by **Ameet** » 01 Oct 2010 12:34

Dozens of NATO oil tankers attacked in Pakistan

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101001/ap_ ... s_pakistan

Suspected militants

in southern Pakistan set ablaze more than two dozen tankers carrying fuel for foreign troops in Afghanistan on Friday, highlighting the vulnerability of the U.S.-led mission a day after Pakistan closed a major border crossing.

The convoy of tankers attacked Friday was likely headed to a second crossing in southwest Pakistan that was not closed. (Pakis always leave the musharraf open)