Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 03, 2010

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 08 Oct 2010 23:38

Philip wrote:Gen.David Petraeus says that Pak might collapse within two weeks?
PS:It looks like "Petra's" ass is on the line here.
Two weeks to save Pak" Obama wants to train the Pakis too!Hav eyou heard of such rot ever before?It shows that the White House boss is clueless as to what to do with Pak. and how to get it to behave.I recommend a strong dose of "B-52" antibiotics which will pulversise the Talibs and the ISI.

This is known as Fak-Af and this has been going on for the last 9 years.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 08 Oct 2010 23:49

Amber G. wrote:Real problem is NOT pak terror but US travel alert ...How cruel of US to destabilize Pak...
US travel alert 'destabilizing Pakistan'

Report authored by: Wayne Madsen (There's a reason why "Mad" is part of my last name).

Wayne Madsen

Wayne Madsen (born April 25, 1954) is a controversial Washington, D.C.-based investigative journalist, author and columnist who has been described by critics as a conspiracy theorist and conspiracy minded blogger

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 08 Oct 2010 23:51

Nandu wrote:BTW, what happened to all the dire predictions about millions dying from the after effects of teh flood, that Pakis used to milk money from the world?

Now they will really have to die. Just to prove a pucca paki point. Or else the pakis will lose their H&D.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 09 Oct 2010 00:36

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 00865.html

comment section
They look at Pakistan as a holy land but cannot have a history built on it.

Shahid Maqbool
Pakistan ,a holy land. We live here in Karachi and we see all the times what is happening inside Pakistan. But after reading this story about Pakistan, I realized the person who has compiled this story ,has compiled the true picture of Pakistan.We are in a house where all the doors are closed and there is no light coming from any end.I am totally disappointed about the future of Pakistan.There is no hope of revolution as the whole society is corrupt(Army, Judiciary,Government, Bureaucracy, and even a common man).I don't know Pakistan will be on world map or not in future.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 09 Oct 2010 01:23

The Black Hole of Pakistan
Are billions of dollars of U.S. aid going to waste?

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... f_pakistan

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 09 Oct 2010 01:43

Think Again: The Afghan Surge
Ignore the hype: There's no panacea for the deteriorating U.S.-led war effort in Afghanistan.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... e?page=0,4

"Pakistan Can Be Persuaded to Ditch the Taliban."

No way. U.S. officials have made clear that they view the Taliban's sanctuaries in Pakistan as a mortal threat to their mission in Afghanistan and have leaned hard on the Pakistanis to crack down on these safe havens while escalating a campaign of drone strikes against al Qaeda-linked militants along the border areas. It's clear, however, that the Pakistani military plans to continue its support for the Taliban. The Pakistani mlitary's ties to these groups go back decades, and it is unrealistic to expect it to cut off these relationships after a few months of U.S. pressure. In any case, the Pakistani Army doesn't have the resources to launch a serious offensive against insurgents operating within its territory anytime soon.

Meanwhile, NATO logistics remain dependent on Pakistan -- as we saw recently, when the Pakistani Army sealed one of the two main roads used by the coalition to send military supplies into Afghanistan in response to a U.S. helicopter strike that destroyed a Pakistani military outpost, killing two soldiers. The idle convoys left sitting near the Afghanistan-Pakistan border made a perfect target for the Taliban, which has burned dozens of trucks over the past week.

Pakistani influence over the Taliban is not necessarily a bad thing. Instead of engaging in a futile effort to change the Pakistani Army's entire worldview, the United States should use Pakistan's connections to start talking with the Taliban. The insurgents are ready to negotiate over their participation in a government in Kabul, along with the withdrawal of coalition forces from Afghanistan. It's not clear whether the negotiations will lead anywhere -- but this option must be explored without more delay. It's Obama's only ticket out of this war.

r_subramanian · Post by **r_subramanian** » 09 Oct 2010 04:36

The major earthquake that hit Kashmir and Pakistan was on 8 October 2005 - exactly 5 years ago. Now a politician is demanding that funds be allocated to these areas for rehabilitation. What sort of federal / provincial governments is Pakistan having that would not / could not rehabilitate the victims even after 5 years? I believe that a fair amount international aid was provided for this purpose.

ML(Q) leader demands funds for quake hit areas
...
Talking to media in Islamabad Amir Muqam has said the quake stricken area of Khyber Pakhtoonkhwa being punished for their affiliation with Muslim League. He said the government using funds for the works other than rehabilitation in the calamity hit area ...

link

sunnyP · Post by **sunnyP** » 09 Oct 2010 06:19

And more attacks:

QUETTA: It seems there was no respite in attacks on Afghanistan bound Nato convoys as several more oil tankers were destroyed when unknown armed men attacked the oil tankers in the area of Mithri of the Bolan district.

According to the sources, the assailants fired a rocket, targeting the tankers parked near a hotel in the early hours of Saturday. Several tankers immediately caught fire and were destroyed.

There were also unconfirmed reports of death of one security personal in the attack.—DawnNews

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... tan--bi-02

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 09 Oct 2010 06:31

The real question about Pakistan's border closure

http://afpak.foreignpolicy.com/posts/20 ... er_closure

BY C. CHRISTINE FAIR

As I have noted previously, this position is puzzling. Pakistan has a longer history in terms of proliferation and state support for terrorism than does Iran, yet Washington has funneled nearly $19 billion into Pakistan since September 11, 2001 in recognition of Pakistan's primacy to U.S. security interests. Even if the United States were to act in its own strategic self interests and pursue a tactical arrangement with Iran over the port, no doubt Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would not miss the opportunity to miss an opportunity to productively engage the international community.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 09 Oct 2010 06:32

abhishek_sharma wrote:The real question about Pakistan's border closure

http://afpak.foreignpolicy.com/posts/20 ... er_closure

BY C. CHRISTINE FAIR

As I have noted previously, this position is puzzling. Pakistan has a longer history in terms of proliferation and state support for terrorism than does Iran, yet Washington has funneled nearly $19 billion into Pakistan since September 11, 2001 in recognition of Pakistan's primacy to U.S. security interests. Even if the United States were to act in its own strategic self interests and pursue a tactical arrangement with Iran over the port, no doubt Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would not miss the opportunity to miss an opportunity to productively engage the international community.

Wow! When did mohtarma Fair started growing brains?

r_subramanian · Post by **r_subramanian** » 09 Oct 2010 07:19

What EU gives with one hand, takes it away with the other!

llegal migrant expulsion deal: Pakistan may lose euro two billion remittances
Pakistan is likely to be deprived of billions of euros of remittances income yearly, in lieu of duty-free exports of 900 million euros to commence from next year. "'Illegal' Pakistani immigrants, who are said to be in hundreds of thousands in Europe, are sending more than 2 billion euros remittances to their families every year, who, with the implementation of the agreement, will be sent back to Pakistan, without any financial benefits ," said an official privy to this development.
...

link

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 09 Oct 2010 07:41

Killing of Pakistan Doctor Part of Taliban War on Educated

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/09/world ... pstan.html

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 09 Oct 2010 08:24

Anyone seen usual Friday postings (Nuggets, Such Gup, butterflies etc)- nothing interesting I presume.

Boscoe · Post by **Boscoe** » 09 Oct 2010 08:53

Ittefaq
Last night, dream is coming. I am in Makro supermarket where I am meeting General Kayani. He is pushing trolley full of politicians and technocrats. “Are you needing any help, General Saab?” I am asking. “No thanks” he is saying, “but please hop in”. I am thinking about it and then deciding that why should I? Again he is saying, “Please hop in. As you can see, there are some bargains in the trolley. There’s a special offer on technocrats today. It’s 50% off”. “Off with what?” I am asking. “Never mind”, Kayani is saying, “just get in next to these burqa clad technocrats”. Then I am wondering that why are they wearing burqas, hain ji. Kayani is saying, “they do not want to reveal themselves before their sell-by date”. I am not being sure that this is a good deal for me. Again Kayani is saying, “Let me assure you, Mian Sahab, it’s a bargain. Buy one, get one free”. “You mean technocrats? Buy one, get one free?” I asked. “No, no” he said, “I mean governments. Buy the federal government, get the provincial government for free. Two for the price of one.”

In my dream, it is looking nice deal. I am thinking of hopping into Kayani’s trolley. Then I am seeing that there is Pir Pagaro in it also, and Altaf and all the smelly FATA wallahs and Musharraf wrapped up in recycled paper and I am thinking that it’s going to be quite a squeeze in Kayani’s trolley. With all this confuyion in my had, I am telling Kayani that let me to just push the trolley with you for some time and I will decide latter that if I am gatting into it, hain ji. He is saying ok but remember that the Special Offer is far Limited Period only.

When we got to girl at the till, she started toting up General Kayani’s purchases. Then she said, “That’ll be Rs 10/ General Sahab”. “Is that all?” he asked. “Yes” she said, “these politicians and technocrats come free with the trolley.”

Then Kayani and me came out of Makro and many people saw us and joined our bang wagon. Together we wheeled his trolley into the car park where we met Hillary Clinton. “Where are you two taking all these people?” she asked. “To the cleaners” Kayani said. Then he asked her to join us for lunch. “What do you have in mind?” Hillary asked. “Let’s go to Salt ’n Pepper Village” he said, “my treat”. “No general”, she said, “My treat”. We are going to Village where we saw another technocrat behind a deg. “What he is cooking, hain ji?” I asked Kayani. “The books” he said.

Boscoe · Post by **Boscoe** » 09 Oct 2010 08:55

Nuggets

Made famous by one line

Daily Express reported that the poet who became famous on the basis of one line – Maulana Kamal Salarpuri – had died. His lines stated the following fact about Pakistan: Har shaakh pai ullu baitha hai anjaam-e-gulistan kiya ho ga. (On each branch there sits an owl, which spells doom of the garden).

Nation will refuse Indian aid!

Quoted in Nawa-e-Waqt all major leaders of religious parties rejected the offer of million as flood relief by India to Pakistan. Ahle Hadith leader Sajid Mir and banned Jamaatud Dawa leader Hafiz Khalid Walid said the nation will never accept Indian aid until India stops the conspiracies against Pakistan. JUP leader Pir Ijaz Hashmi and Maulana Muhammad Shafi from Azad Kashmir said Pakistan government should refuse the aid.

Sindh minister who will eat terrorists alive!

Famously temperamental Sindh home minister Zulfiqar Mirza was quoted by Jinnah as saying that he would eat any terrorist alive if he saw one. He said not even America could control terrorism in Pakistan. He said target-killing was a foreign conspiracy.

Five ‘pious’ Pakistanis deported

Reported in Nawa-e-Waqt, France deported 125 Muslims who were pious (rasikhul aqeeda) but taught jihad as duty. Five out of this number were Pakistanis who insisted on teaching jihad to the local Muslim communities. According to the paper, their effort was directed at being true (satcha) and practical (amli) Muslim. Many ulema and imam masjid including a famous jihad-preacher Ali Ibrahim the Egyptian were asked to leave. The Egyptian had been deported earlier too but he stayed put after getting a decree from a court. Muslims are 10 percent of France’s population and are the largest minority.

Bloodbath will bring about true Pakistan

Famous columnist Abdul Qadir Hasan, lovingly called Bhola by his friends, wrote in Express that a mystical saint named Syed Sarfraz Shah Sahib in Lahore had told him long ago that blood will flow from the north of Pakistan for four years bringing with it great destruction after which a new kind of people will bring about the true Pakistan.

Well done, Mian Shehbaz!

Instead of badmouthing politicians, Javed Chaudhry praised Chief Minister Shehbaz Sharif in Express for being in the flood-stricken South Punjab and asking IG Police Punjab to stay there as well to prevent crime coming in the wake of the floods. He noted that the victims of the flood were visibly grateful for the Chief Minister’s presence.

Flood unleashed by Bharat!

Chief Editor Nawa-e-Waqt Majid Nizami said that India was behind the flood havoc in Pakistan and this was done by Hindu engineers sitting in Afghanistan. Water from Afghanistan was directed downstream to Pakistan as a result of which floods hit Pakhtunkhwa. He said Pakistan should bomb all the dams India was building on its side to steal Pakistan’s water. Former vice-chancellor of Punjab University Dr Rafeeq Ahmad said that the Americans had caused the flood havoc by changing the climate of the region to harm countries like China and India.

Media spreading despair

Quoted in Jinnah, editor Express Abbas Athar stated that a certain section of the media was spreading despair about the floods in the country, creating the impression among the people that the floods were caused by the government. The media also let the world know that any aid given by it will be eaten up by politicians and bureaucrats. After that, aid was not forthcoming. Media anchors and judicial mafia are causing destruction in the country. Owners cannot restrain their anchors because these anchors bring in revenues.

‘Non state actors’ are active!

Leader of Jamaat Islami Dr Munawwar Hasan was quoted in Express as saying that during the calamity of the flood it was the non state actors of banned organisations that were active in saving the lives of the people while the rulers were criminally neglectful.

America to attack Iran from Pak air bases

Famous strategist ex-ISI chief General (Retd) Hamid Gul was quoted by Nawa-e-Waqt as saying that America was occupying two airports in Pakistan - Shehbaz and Shamsi – from where it was preparing to launch an attack on Iran. He said Pakistani officers were not allowed to enter these airports. To save one American airport in Sindh from floods, Pakistan diverted the water and allowed two cities to be drowned.

Jamaatud Dawa converts Hindus

Reported in allegedly banned Jamaatud Dawa periodical Jarrar, four Hindus in Karachi embraced Islam at the hands of a Jamaatud Dawa priest Maulana Mehmudal Hasan Asad and immediately proclaimed that they had accepted Islam on their own and no one had coerced them into becoming Muslims. Maulana said that the world should see how Islam was becoming popular.

Non state actors good during flood

Writing in Express, Abdul Qadir Hasan stated that interior minister Rehman Malik should be asked to stop saying that his government would not allow the banned organisations to send out their non state actors to work for the relief of the flood-stricken population. He stated that Rehman Malik had made the statement at the behest of America. The non state actors were in fact the first to reach the people and rescue them.

Famous columnist tells all

Quoted in Jinnah, famous columnist Abdul Qadir Hasan said that he was educated in a madrassa in Soon-Sakaisar in Potohar region and was destined by his father to become a religious scholar. He went up to Jamia Ashrafia to learn Quran and Hadith, was a pupil of Ahle Hadith scholar Maulana Daud Ghaznavi and took to the style of Maulana Abul Kalam Azad. Called a hero of Pakistani journalism by the paper, Qadir Hasan said that his elder brother was a member of Jamaat Islami and that Ahmad Nadeem Qasimi was from the same area as he.

Ahle Sunnat want Kalabagh Dam!

According to Nawa-e-Waqt, thirty organisations under the Barelvi banner of Ahle Sunnat called for the building of Kalabagh Dam immediately. They said politicians and rulers of Pakistan were ignoring national interest and the Ahle Sunnat were ready to start a nationwide campaign to force them to build Kalabagh Dam.

Chairman WAPDA dumps Kalabagh

Reported in Nawa-e-Waqt, WAPDA Chairman Shakeel Durrani stated that ANP was right in rejecting Kalabagh Dam and the recent flood had proved it. Had there been a Kalabagh Dam today, it would have damaged Nowshehra through a backflow. He said the prime minister will inaugurate the Basha-Diamer Dam soon and WAPDA was planning Akhori Dam in consultation with the provinces.

Saudi ulema against ‘hello’

According to daily Pakistan, seventy religious scholars (ulema) of Saudi Arabia including the Imam of Kaaba have issued fatwa that Muslims should not say hello on telephone because it refers to Hell. When a Muslim says hello to another Muslim, he is calling him a jahannami (dweller of Hell) which is banned in Islam. The Europeans are very clever because they actually don’t say hello but Hi which avoids sending Christians to Hell. Therefore it was banned for Muslims to say hello. They should say Salam which is a far better thing to say to another Muslim than hello, the word that contains ‘hell’.

Pranay · Post by **Pranay** » 09 Oct 2010 09:01

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11506512

...some more attrition in the ranks of tanker trucks in Pakistan.

Gunmen in south-western Pakistan have attacked and set fire to nearly 30 tankers carrying oil to Nato troops in Afghanistan, officials say.

The gunmen torched the convoy parked near a roadside restaurant near the town of Sibi in a pre-dawn raid

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About 20 gunmen attacked the tanker convoy on Saturday, local Pakistani official Neem Sherwani told Reuters.

"The attackers first fired shots and then fired small rockets at the tankers. Twenty-eight to 29 tankers caught fire," the official said.

The tankers were on their way to the town of Chaman, on the border with Afghanistan, reports say.

Boscoe · Post by **Boscoe** » 09 Oct 2010 09:03

Such G

Hares and hounds

Some people are finding it difficult to run with the hare and hunt with the hound, as a media man recently discovered to his chagrin. He has long been an apologist for the Taliban and others of their ilk. Recently he was at the heart of a controversy linking him to the killing by the Taliban of a former spook, who had once been in the service of the Invisible Soldiers Inc. The dead man’s family has laid the murder at the media man’s door. Undeterred, the media man applied for a coveted western visa for his wife, which was duly refused. No reason cited of course, but that maxim about hares and hounds applies.

Momentous meetings

Our mole reports that the Quaid-e-Qiwam’s right hand man from his London secretariat met an important personage in Dubai recently. This personage was dressed in khaki and had an air of authority about him. It was following this momentous meeting that the Quaid-e-Qiwam delivered himself of those pearls of wisdom concerning “patriotic generals”. Another rumour has it that The Man of Steel has met the same khaki gent in a safe house in Lahore’s Defence. But sources say this is a far-fetched rumour and that The Man of Steel isn’t playing ball quite yet.

Call of the wild

Sparks have flown since the last Indo-Pak officials’ meeting in which the For Min participated along with his counterparts from across the border. Our mole noticed that the For Min kept getting calls on his cell phone in the midst of the meeting. And he kept rushing out of the room to attend the calls. Later, Hubby, who had noticed this, mentioned it to the Min and said, “it wasn’t me who was calling you in the middle of that meeting. So, whose calls were you attending, Mr Minister?”

Out of sorts

A senior western diplomat visited Karachi’s senior leaders recently and found them shaken and out of sorts. As has become their wont these days, they were full of complaints about “the west” and how badly let down they feel. Talk then turned to the recent murder of one of their fellows in London , and someone said that exemplary punishment should be handed down to the culprit, “if Scotland Yard can find out who did it”. The diplomat replied casually, “Scotland Yard will definitely find out who did it”. At that, everyone’s faces blanched.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 09 Oct 2010 09:20

Boscoe wrote: According to daily Pakistan, seventy religious scholars (ulema) of Saudi Arabia including the Imam of Kaaba have issued fatwa that Muslims should not say hello on telephone because it refers to Hell. When a Muslim says hello to another Muslim, he is calling him a jahannami (dweller of Hell) which is banned in Islam. The Europeans are very clever because they actually don’t say hello but Hi which avoids sending Christians to Hell. Therefore it was banned for Muslims to say hello. They should say Salam which is a far better thing to say to another Muslim than hello, the word that contains ‘hell’.

But Salam is contained in "Salami" which is pig meat.

Vivek_A · Post by **Vivek_A** » 09 Oct 2010 09:25

Boscoe wrote:
Hares and hounds

Some people are finding it difficult to run with the hare and hunt with the hound, as a media man recently discovered to his chagrin. He has long been an apologist for the Taliban and others of their ilk. Recently he was at the heart of a controversy linking him to the killing by the Taliban of a former spook, who had once been in the service of the Invisible Soldiers Inc. The dead man’s family has laid the murder at the media man’s door. Undeterred, the media man applied for a coveted western visa for his wife, which was duly refused. No reason cited of course, but that maxim about hares and hounds applies.

In case people are wondering who she's talking about, it's Hamid Mir.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 09 Oct 2010 09:54

Recall what Ayub Khan said in Oct. 1960

President Mohammed Ayub Khan of Pakistan said in Rawalkot on October 8 that Pakistan would never accept a solution of the Kashmir issue on the basis of the cease-fire line as “conceived by some people in India”. Addressing a rally of ex-soldiers at Rawalkot College on the last day of a three-day tour of “Azad Kashmir”, he said anyone who thought along those lines was badly mistaken. President Ayub said that for Indian leaders to harbour such causes of animosity as the Kashmir issue was an expensive bargain.{Expensive bargain for India, eh ?}

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 09 Oct 2010 10:07

Simple periodic motion continues ..(All recent news)
US Drone Attack Kills 7 Pakis In Pakistan
Gunmen Torch 29 More NATO Oil Tankers
US Army Gen. Petraeus to Pakistan: Stop collaborating with Taliban
Robert Gibbs says status quo not acceptable
ityadee ityadee...

Meanwhile looks like Uneven is visiting India:
But then it (26/11) brought us (me?) and India closer
Some nuggets from the rant(s)

...as US citizens were attacked too ..

..."26/11 as “brilliant stupidity”.

... “It is in your interest that the country (Pakistan) is stable. In case it collapses, it could be an opportunity or a catastrophe. But when the neighbour’s house is on fire, you do not celebrate,”..

... wild goose chase of nuclear warheads in case Pakistan as a state fails.

.... “The Indo-US nuclear deal happened too soon. We gave too much too soon. People in Washington are not happy. ....

.. it (nuclear deal) should also be offered to Pakistan too. China has already stepped in to help Pakistan..…

(Was nice of the paper to remind its reader of all the quotes

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 09 Oct 2010 10:22

Amber G. wrote: Meanwhile looks like Uneven is visiting India:
But then it (26/11) brought us (me?) and India closer

“Though the reasons for offering the deal to India were right, as it (India) has a good record of non-proliferation, it should also be offered to Pakistan too.

The b@#$rd can't hid his true colors.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 09 Oct 2010 13:41

Pranay wrote:...some more attrition in the ranks of tanker trucks in Pakistan.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 09 Oct 2010 15:44

Disaster & State
On how the floods happened because of Pakistani mismanagement . . .

Over the long decades of criminal neglect this country has suffered, the mountain slopes in the catchment areas have been stripped of their binding forest cover, dams and canals have silted up because of inadequate dredging and their water-holding capacities greatly reduced, bunds (embankments) have been built or repaired with substandard material and farms and whole villages have been built up in the Indus flood plain (the katcha), itself denuded of its ancient forests and criss-crossed by ‘private’ canals and bunds. This disaster-waiting-to-happen was exacerbated by the engineers at the Warsak, Tarbela and Mangla Dams, who paid no heed to the Met Department’s repeated warnings of exceptionally heavy rainfall and maintained water levels in the dams at customary heights instead of reducing them in advance of the expected floods.

On why the 1971 break-up was not because of the 1970 cyclone . . .

To begin with, let us understand that Pakistan was not a historically recognised entity whose people had enjoyed some kind of sense of common identity over the centuries. As between the western and eastern wings, not even the same languages were spoken or understood, nor did the diet, dress and cultures of the two halves have much in common. Anyhow, the impossible geography of what we fondly called ‘United Pakistan’ — with two near halves of population divided by over a thousand miles of a bigger, more powerful nation — had rendered achievement of national cohesion fundamentally difficult. On top of these difficulties, there was the lopsided Karachi-centric economic structure, in which the dollars earned from the eastern wing’s jute exports was invested into plant, equipment and expensive lifestyles in the western wing. Constitution-making was delayed and warped and effective administrative and executive power was wrested from the political assemblies and concentrated in the hands of a bureaucratic-military establishment that was overwhelmingly Punjabi and Mohajir, with a smattering of Pakhtuns, in its ethnic make-up. Finally, there was the abysmal stupidity of ignoring the ethnic and regional reality of Pakistan and trying to govern it as a unitary state. All of these real causes of Bengal’s secession long pre-dated the 1970 cyclone.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 09 Oct 2010 16:05

BBC

Nato tankers torched in new attack in Pakistan

A series of similar attacks have taken place over the last few days

Gunmen in south-western Pakistan have attacked and set fire to nearly 30 tankers carrying fuel to Nato troops in Afghanistan, officials say.

The gunmen torched the convoy parked near a roadside restaurant near the town of Sibi in a pre-dawn raid.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 09 Oct 2010 16:13

DAWN says

Log on to Dawn.com for the latest news, results, features and images as South Asia hosts its biggest sporting event of the century.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 09 Oct 2010 16:13

NATO is providing compensation to these contractors operating trucks. So pakis have found a new way to scam unkil. Burn an old truck with 50 ltrs of petrol and NATO pays them for a new truck and entire load of 200 ltrs petrol. No wonder there are so many rakkit mards coming forth in TSP to torch their own trucks.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 09 Oct 2010 18:24

SSridhar wrote:DAWN says
Log on to Dawn.com for the latest news, results, features and images as South Asia hosts its biggest sporting event of the century.

Yes, as the cradle of civilization and center of the universe, the land of the pure is the fulcrum of all that happens in Indian sub-continent. All roads must pass through the ruins of Indus-Saraswat basin where history began and the first foundations of pakistaniyat were well and truly laid. Hence, if the CWG happen to be in New Delhi, aren't they being held there because the purelanders are letting them happen in peace? Hain? It is a joint operation. Silly kufr.

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 09 Oct 2010 18:25

Aisam-Rohan image nominated for award

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... -award-ha-

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 09 Oct 2010 18:25

Pakistan considers imposing tax on Nato supply trucks

Numerous Pakistani highways have been adversely affected due to the transporting of heavy trucks and hence the federal government said that it has started considering a tax on the supply trucks. The government may also demand road tax from the US for the past seven years of transporting these trucks, which would amount to approximately Rs.600 million.

Now...the hoardings on chaman road networks can say "Nato...pay road tax...else get bombed"

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 09 Oct 2010 18:27

Singha wrote:BBC: Nato tankers torched in new attack in Pakistan. A series of similar attacks have taken place over the last few days

And a new vocation (nay, a new calling) comes into vogue in the land of the pure. Very lucrative and lends itself well to the basic psyche of the average abdul. "Burn, baby, burn. Earn, baby, earn".

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 09 Oct 2010 18:59

Pa'stan's troubles start to stack up ominously
Ahmed Rashid counts the number of ways the paki H&D goose is well and truly cooked. Please feel free to add more to this august list.

midst of devastating floods

two insurgencies

a visible economic collapse

growing row with the US

a major political crisis brewing that could yet see the government toppled

a constitutional rather than a military coup

chaotic economic aftermath of the floods.

charges of alleged corruption against President Zardari and Prime Minister Gilani

General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani ... warned Mr Gilani and President Zardari

incompetence in the wake of the floods

20 million people and left two million homeless

The army is determined to show that it is standing up to the Americans, while the government appears vacillating

80% of Western aid has gone to the UN and private aid agencies rather than the government because of the lack of trust

rising tensions between Islamabad and the US

Europe is on red alert after reports that a major terrorist attack hatched by al-Qaeda and the Taliban from Pakistan's tribal areas

the real threat comes from the army, which privately says it is fed up and frustrated with the government

the military...dictates the government's foreign and national security policy

Western diplomats ... frustrated with the army, accusing it of playing multiple games with the US administration, Nato

the army is blowing hot and cold about trying to bring Afghan Taliban leaders - who all have sanctuaries in Pakistan - to the negotiating table.

The army has also been assertive recently on the domestic front

documents presented to the International Monetary Fund, that Pakistan has increased its defence budget by $1.28bn, taking defence spending to $6.41bn in the 2010-11 budget. The army appears to have got this extra money without formal approval or discussion by the cabinet or parliament.

worsening relations with Washington

the threat of social unrest

huge spikes in inflation and joblessness

a state that is perilously close to further chaos

After all this uplifting news, the author has the gall to say:

Pakistan has a terrible dilemma

No $hit, Sherlock!! But, all is not lost. In the land of the forever-optimistic (the-glass-is-never-fully-empty), the average mard-e-momeen paki is doing this on the stage of make believe:

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 09 Oct 2010 19:03

Pakistan reopens supply route for Nato forces
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan will immediately reopen a vital supply route for Nato forces in Afghanistan 10 days after it was shut following a cross-border air strike by Nato forces, the Foreign Ministry said on Saturday.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 09 Oct 2010 19:10

Dipanker wrote:Pakistan reopens supply route for Nato forces
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan will immediately reopen a vital supply route for Nato forces in Afghanistan 10 days after it was shut following a cross-border air strike by Nato forces, the Foreign Ministry said on Saturday.

Running out of fresh truck, are we?

Guddu · Post by **Guddu** » 09 Oct 2010 20:00

Acharya wrote:
Philip wrote:Gen.David Petraeus says that Pak might collapse within two weeks?
PS:It looks like "Petra's" ass is on the line here.
Two weeks to save Pak" Obama wants to train the Pakis too!Hav eyou heard of such rot ever before?It shows that the White House boss is clueless as to what to do with Pak. and how to get it to behave.I recommend a strong dose of "B-52" antibiotics which will pulversise the Talibs and the ISI.
This is known as Fak-Af and this has been going on for the last 9 years.

Thats a 2009 news item, when the jeehards were miles from slumabad...

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 09 Oct 2010 21:31

The Afghan War is Becoming the Pakistan War
OCT 7 2010, 3:38 PM ET 32

http://www.theatlantic.com/internationa ... war/64244/

Even for the already troubled Pakistani "partnership" with the U.S., the past two weeks have seen a rapid and alarming disintegration in Pakistan's support of the U.S. and NATO presence in South Asia. Pakistan refuses to reopen a crucial border crossing into Afghanistan, one of the most important U.S./NATO supply routes. NATO convoys in Pakistan have suddenly come under heavy attack, with insurgents destroying dozens of supply trucks and oil tankers bound for troops in Afghanistan. Now the Wall Street Journal reports that Pakistan's powerful spy services, the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), is pushing Taliban leaders to keep fighting the U.S., resist any move towards peace, and, in the words of one Taliban commander, "kill everyone--policemen, soldiers, engineers, teachers, civilians--just to intimidate people." Pakistan has never been a real ally, but it's never been a real enemy either--until now.

On Wednesday, one week into Pakistan's blockade of the supply route into Afghanistan, the Washington Post reported that senior representatives from the Afghan government and Taliban are engaged in high-level peace talks to end the war. The direct negotiations, which have been a top U.S. goal since President Barack Obama took office, have the support of the White House. This morning, the Guardian reported that the Afghan and U.S. governments had made contact with the Haqqani network, a brutal and extremist militant group, to negotiate terms of peace. The Haqqani network is by far the most violent and least reconcilable of the major insurgent factions; if the U.S. is reaching out to Haqqani, and willing to make it public, then it is very serious about striking a deal for peace.

It's not hard to see why peace has become such a priority this week. The loss of Pakistan's support and the additional challenges posed by its antagonism make the Afghan war's already brutal challenges nearly insurmountable. If Pakistan's abrupt turn isn't the central motivating cause for the equally suddenly peace talks between Afghan and Taliban leaders, it should be. The longer this trend of Pakistani hostility continues, the more inseparable it will become from the Afghan war, and the more like that the U.S. will be sucked into invading the Pakistan border region where much of the Taliban is based. After all, Pakistani militants and ISI officers can choke off the entire U.S. effort in Afghanistan from their side of the border. If they continue, we'll have little choice but to counterattack and regain our supply routes. But that would set off an unthinkably catastrophic chain of events as Pakistanis rebel against the U.S. presence and possibly threaten to topple the tenuous civilian government. So the status quo, clearly, is not an option. If we can't bring Pakistan back into the fold, the only real alternative is to establish peace in Afghanistan as quickly as possible, preventing a broader Afghanistan-Pakistan war before it happens.

Pakistan has long played both sides of the Afghan conflict, overtly supporting the U.S.-led mission while it quietly sponsors the same insurgent groups we're at war with. That's never been a great mystery to the U.S., and few were surprised by recent revelations that Pakistani officials captured a senior Taliban leader not to help the U.S. but to sabotage that leaders' high-level peace talks with the Afghan government. The U.S. was willing to play along because it had no choice--the problems it faces in Afghanistan are vast enough without adding Pakistani corruption, militancy, and poverty, three intertwined problems that would make Afghanistan seem like a cake walk. But despite all our efforts, it is the Pakistani side of our partnership that appears to have collapsed. That the catalyst for these two awful weeks -- a U.S. cross-border raid that killed two Pakistani soldiers confused for militants -- was so banal and provoked such a wildly disproportionate response suggests that Pakistani tolerance for our presence was far more tenuous than we thought.

We always knew that Pakistan was the powder keg of South Asia. President Obama, speaking to Bob Woodward, made clear that a top goal of our mission in Afghanistan to prevent the Pakistani powder keg from blowing. Now that it looks like we might be too late, the U.S. appears to have decided that we'd better leave before we make the looming blast any worse.

Also, every time we've touched south Asia we've created one monster after another. Our supplied and trained Mujahadeen become Al Qaeda; to get Pakistani assistance in the 80's to supply the Mujahadeen we bite our tongue as Pakistan develops a nuclear bomb; pulling troops to Iraq may have allowed Al Qaeda to slip away, so our pilotless drones have to hunt them in Pakistan which, of course, is hugely unpopular there and makes the government less stable. Every thing we do there seems to come back worse a decade later.

This guy gets it a little bit. But does not figure out that India has not been engaged for 40 years in that region and that is the reason.

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 09 Oct 2010 21:45

'Million dollar' Al Qaeda leader killed in drone attack in Pakistan
Peshawar, October 09, 2010First Published: 21:03 IST(9/10/2010)

An Al Qaeda leader with a bounty of a million dollars on his head was killed in a US drone strike in Pakistan's lawless tribal belt earlier this week, security officials said on Saturday. Atiyah Abd al-Rahman, an Al Qaeda operative of Libyan origin, died in a missile strike on Thursday, said the officials who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Rahman was killed with three other militants when the unmanned spy plane fired two missiles at a vehicle in North Waziristan Agency, which borders Afghanistan.

The US had earlier offered a bounty of one million dollars for Rahman.

The officials said another lower ranking Al Qaeda operative, Khalid Mohammad Abbas al-Harabi, too was killed in the same missile strike.

The US has significantly stepped up drone attacks in the Waziristan region since early September.

The increase in strikes coincided with reports that Western intelligence agencies had uncovered a plot by militants based in the region to attack major European cities.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 10 Oct 2010 01:22

Watch aunty burqa sucking up to uncle mushy on undie tv tonight, sunday 8PM. ( if you want your breakfast and lunch returned to pavillion!)

Both are as slimy as slippery eels.

Is she bucking for the the Magsaysay Award (Asia's Nobel Prize)?? Sure looks like it.

anchal · Post by **anchal** » 10 Oct 2010 02:07

^ Read the transcript of the interview on the undie website. At one point Bandicoot says," we wish you were there to form sentences of the Cashmere deal". These guys surely know each other's utility. What a pity!

praksam · Post by **praksam** » 10 Oct 2010 06:44

chetak wrote:Watch aunty burqa sucking up to uncle mushy on undie tv tonight.

Could it be a payback for the mijjile missing her during Kargil attack?