Indian Army: News & Discussion

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 22 Oct 2010 08:38

Further (2007 story)

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1070611/a ... 904500.asp

In October 2006, the event ran for 10 days and 101 teams from various Nato and non-Nato countries had participated. Garhwal Rifles of the Indian Army won the coveted Silver Medal.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 22 Oct 2010 08:44

Who represented India this year:
http://himalnews.wordpress.com/2010/05/page/4/

A Gorkha Regiment of the Trishakti Corps won the Army Cambrian Patrol Trials at Belgaum in Karnataka and will now be representing the Indian Army in Nato Army Cambrian Patrol competition on October in Wales, UK.

Sanju · Post by **Sanju** » 22 Oct 2010 08:57

I have got the go ahead from my FIL and I will start transcribing the video and then get the info to be reviewed by FIL.

Ramana, I did ask him about Brig. Mathur. He mentions that he does recall the name and mentioned that he knew a Brig. Mathur whose last posting was in Lucknow.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 22 Oct 2010 09:58

Bingo! Can you drop e-mail at the PM?

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 22 Oct 2010 17:27

The Minister of State for Defence, Dr. M.M. Pallam Raju unveiled a bust of Field Marshal K.M. Cariappa during a visit to the Indian Ex-Services League (IESL) in New Delhi on October 22, 2010.

http://pib.nic.in/release/phsmall.asp?phid=31160

Sanju · Post by **Sanju** » 22 Oct 2010 20:50

ramana wrote:Bingo! Can you drop e-mail at the PM?

Mail sent.

merlin · Post by **merlin** » 23 Oct 2010 11:14

Sanju wrote:I have got the go ahead from my FIL and I will start transcribing the video and then get the info to be reviewed by FIL.

Ramana, I did ask him about Brig. Mathur. He mentions that he does recall the name and mentioned that he knew a Brig. Mathur whose last posting was in Lucknow.

Would be very interesting to see the video. May help me to convince someone about doing the same.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 23 Oct 2010 21:51

Russian, Indian troops complete military exercises in Himalayas

"The experience we gained from the exercises is useful. We learned a lot from our Russian colleagues," Commander of the Indian contingent Brigadier-General Gopal said.

The commander of the Russian contingent, Major-General Vladimir Glinin said he was satisfied with the results of the military exercises.

cbelwal · Post by **cbelwal** » 25 Oct 2010 05:14

From the media it would seem Chaubatia is some remote location right on the border. Chaubatia is about 9 kms from the heart of Ranikhet, and 6 kms from the Kumaon Regimental Center (KRC), the HQ for Kumaon regiment. The 99 mountain brigade, also known as the "Congo Brigade" is based there. 1 battalion of Kumaon and 1 of Naga is also attached to the brigade. The same bridge also participated with the 'Stryker' battalion of the US Army. Army patrols on exercises regularly cross the road infront of our ancestral house in Chaubatia.

Austin wrote:Russian, Indian troops complete military exercises in Himalayas

"The experience we gained from the exercises is useful. We learned a lot from our Russian colleagues," Commander of the Indian contingent Brigadier-General Gopal said.

anjan · Post by **anjan** » 26 Oct 2010 04:17

Army jawan killed as Pak violates ceasefire in Poonch - The Times of India

JAMMU: One Indian Army soldier was killed as Pakistani troops violating the ceasefire agreement opened heavy fire with machineguns and rockets at Indian posts along the Line of Control in Krishna Ghati of Jammu and Kashmir's Poonch district on Sunday evening, sources said.

Though the firing lasted for more than an hour, yet the Indian troops did not retaliate and remained restrained, sources said adding that the unprovoked firing appears to have escalated tension along the border ahead of US President Barack Obama's visit to India.

According to sources, Pakistani troops targeted the Indian forward posts of Kirpan, Kranti and Kirpan-II from the Pakistan forward posts Chuha and Daaku. They said that Pakistan troops opened heavy fire using RPG at Indian forward post Nangi Tekri at around 5.30 pm on Sunday and one army jawan identified as Mourya Sachdev of 17 Mahar regiment received critical injuries who succumbed to his injuries.

Talking to some media persons here today 16 Corps Brigadier General Staff (BGS) Satish Dua said, "They (Pakistani troops) opened heavy caliber firing with machineguns and rockets yesterday late evening violating the cease fire and injured army personal who later succumbed to his injuries.

"We did not retaliate but observed a restrain as we don't want to escalate tension in the area," he said.

Brig Dua however added that Indian troops are maintaining high level of vigil against the attempts of infiltration in the target area to foil any bid to infiltrate by terrorists from across the LoC.

He said, "One of our jawans was martyred during this firing and we (Indian side) have registered protest with their counterparts. But they (Pakistan) yet have not responded, he added.

BGS 16 Corps also reiterated that the winter snowfall may witness increased infiltration attempts by the armed intruders waiting at the launch pads situated in Rajouri Poonch sector at the same time said our troops are capable of defending any challenge given to them.

Confirming the ceasefire violation in his sector, he said this is to 20thviolation in 2010 recorded in the south of Pir Panjal.

"When you go home
Tell them of us, and say,
For their tomorrow
We gave our today" - Kohima Epitaph

RIP soldier.

TonyMontana · Post by **TonyMontana** » 26 Oct 2010 04:38

anjan wrote: ...Though the firing lasted for more than an hour, yet the Indian troops did not retaliate and remained restrained...

...They said that Pakistan troops opened heavy fire using RPG at Indian forward post Nangi Tekri at around 5.30 pm on Sunday and one army jawan identified as Mourya Sachdev of 17 Mahar regiment received critical injuries who succumbed to his injuries.

"We did not retaliate but observed a restrain as we don't want to escalate tension in the area," he said.

He said, "One of our jawans was martyred during this firing and we (Indian side) have registered protest with their counterparts. But they (Pakistan) yet have not responded, he added.

Confirming the ceasefire violation in his sector, he said this is to 20th violation in 2010 recorded in the south of Pir Panjal.

Wow. That's pretty unbelieveable. This happens all the time with Pakistan? Didn't know it was that bad. I am simply amazed at the restraint shown by the Indian Army. The proportionate response to RPGs are mortars. Showing restraint while someone takes pot shots at you is one thing. When an organised military unit opens up on your position for an hour and you don't fire a shot is something else. Self defence is not an escalation.

The saddest part of the whole incident, IMHO, is the lodging of protest.

RIP to the Soldier.

sum · Post by **sum** » 26 Oct 2010 08:50

Doubt if the IA will bother to mention it to DDM even if they did retaliate...

Anyways, given that it is pi$$ season in J&K with Goi appointed WKKs roaming around there, maybe the IA has orders from above to restrain even if their post is being wiped out

abhik · Post by **abhik** » 26 Oct 2010 10:38

I have an idea to deter these ceasefire violations, why don't we install small numbers of missile-in-a-box systems like the IAI Jumper <clicky> a little distance from the border. I'm assuming that almost all the paki bunkers have been mapped and it is mostly from these that they open fire. So every time they start shooting the Army troops could relay the info about which positions or even sectors the pakis are firing from back to the missile operators and then have the missiles level the bunkers/positions.

shukla · Post by **shukla** » 26 Oct 2010 11:54

M777 Howitzers trialled in India..

The officials said India was keen on buying 145 M777 howitzers from the US for which the guns were put on trial in India last week. With India's artillery procurements getting delayed, New Delhi had expressed its interest to the US to buy the guns for which US Congress approval had been sought. "We are now moving towards more military sales," they added. The officials also noted that the Indo-US military relationship was "matured and well evolved," and not based on one transaction. "It is based on exchanges. This is not a relationship, it is partnership," they said, pointing out that US' military exercises with India was the "biggest" the Americans held.

http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/n ... 44956.html

SriSri · Post by **SriSri** » 26 Oct 2010 12:32

Indian Army Conducts Trials of BAE Systems M777 Howitzers reports Press Trust of India

shanksinha · Post by **shanksinha** » 27 Oct 2010 03:26

A good video from Indo-Russian Army Ex INDRA 2010 (check out other vids at source):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFJt8ORt ... re=related

Gaurav_S · Post by **Gaurav_S** » 27 Oct 2010 05:10

Sahadev Mori’s body arrives amid grief

Army officers, Mayor Thakor were the only support to Khas villagers who came to receive martyred Mori’s body

They had come to receive the body of Sahadev Mori, but the teary eyed 20-odd villagers from the martyr’s native did not find any shoulder, except a few Army officers’, to cry on at the Ahmedabad airport.

Shockingly, no state government official or any citizen’s group reached the airport to show respect for the fallen hero. Only Mayor Kanaji Thakor was found waiting along with the grief-stricken friends and family members of Mori.

A sepoy of 17 Mahar Regiment, 23-year-old Sahadev died during a heavy rocket shelling by Pakistani forces in violation of a cease-fire on Sunday.

“It was a routine patrolling at Krishna Ghati area in Poonch sector when heavy rocket shelling from Pakistan’s side injured Sahadev. He died en route to hospital,” said Subedar Jairaj Singh, who along with Marad Sevabhai, brought the body. The two were Sahadev’s colleagues at the unit.

Unable to hold tears back, the martyr’s childhood friends Natwarsinh Mackwana and Mahendrasinh Dodiya said they were proud of him. “We underwent Army training together. Full of life, Sahadev would talk about martyrdom quite often. I still cannot believe he has left us,” said Natwarsinh Mackwana.

“He would always speak of doing something for the motherland. And he proved his words right. He is an inspiration for the younger generation of the village,” said Dodiya, a policeman.

Khas village has more 30 of its sons in the Army and various paramilitary forces to serve the nation. Shahdev’s uncle remembered him as a cricket lover. Though he tried to speak more about his nephew, but could not.

Back home at Khas, all the women in the village have gathered at Sahadev’s place to lend their moral support to Sahadev’s mother Geetaben. However, none of them knows that their beloved son was dead.

According to sarpanch Takhatsinh Gohil said, Ajubhai (Sahadev’s father) got a call from the regiment at 7 am on Monday about the incident.

Ahmedabad Mirror

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 27 Oct 2010 21:35

There could be a gap of the services in not giving prior notification when they are bring back a soldier's body. Look slike the fmaily was notifed but were the state authorities notifed?

There is a urgent need to create state level bodies of concerned citizens like armed forces welfare groups that are in the loop when such incidents occur.

It take s two hands to clap.

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Rant:

What will it take to get good quality helmets and BPJs for the frontline soldiers? Why can't the oodles of funds be used for simple force multipliers like that? Why does it have to be crap from locals who don't have expertise in that area? We saw how effective the local BPJ (looked like batting pads material) was during the 26/11.
RANT off.

nachiket · Post by **nachiket** » 27 Oct 2010 22:30

ramana wrote: -
Rant:

What will it take to get good quality helmets and BPJs for the frontline soldiers? Why can't the oodles of funds be used for simple force multipliers like that? Why does it have to be crap from locals who don't have expertise in that area? We saw how effective the local BPJ (looked like batting pads material) was during the 26/11.
RANT off.

Ramana ji, frontline IA soldiers do have BPJs and helmets. The Patka used by the soldiers in J&K may not "look" good quality but it is probably the only combat helmet that provides some protection against 5.56mm and 7.62mm rifle ammo. Good looking PASGT helmets used by TFTA soldiers provide protection against 9mm Pistol/SMG ammo only. You will also find that BPJs used by IA soldiers are different than what you may have seen Mumbai police officers wearing during 26/11. Of course none of these things can ever provide 100% protection and casualties cannot be avoided. What I'm more concerned about are the reports that the IA soldiers were not initially allowed to retaliate in kind to show "restraint".

Gaur · Post by **Gaur** » 27 Oct 2010 23:44

^^
Leave alone PASGT which is being phased out. Even the new MICH (or more commonly known as Advanced Combat helmet) which is replacing PASGT does not offer any protection from 5.56 NATO (leave alone 7.62 mm). As nachiket rightly said, patka is perhaps the only helmet which provides protection against 5.56 mm and 7.62 mm rounds.
Also, as per a young JAKLI Capt I met a few months ago, the jackets are very effective , light weight and present in sufficient quantities. He was not sure of the exact weight but the jackets felt like around 4Kgs to him.
Every BPJ is tested extensively by IA before placing orders. The tests include firing from various distances using AK-47. The good captain had himself tested 3 of the potential BPJs.

In fact, I really cannot understand the rationale behind comparing the BPJs provided to Police and CPOs with those of IA.

It sometimes becomes very tiring to read the same unreasonable

over and over again. So rest assured, there are more than enough BPJs, helmets, optics and NVGs (both IR and thermal) available with frontline troops. You do not have to take my word for it. Just take the trouble to inquire from any current IA serviceman you may be acquainted with.

Of course, there will always be scooter SF helmets, mismatching camo, pre WW2 raincoats and what not. But what to do, we SDREs are like this onlee.

Kartik · Post by **Kartik** » 28 Oct 2010 00:04

Good article on the PLA's artillery modernisation and existing inventory. Puts the whole artillery saga of the IA into perspective. If they don't pull their nuts out of the fire and quickly start getting the new guns, the IA will fall so far behind, it will be impossible to bridge the gap.

Nearly every other artillery equipment in PLA inventory is either of Soviet, Russian origina or reverse engineered from Soviet, Russian equipement baseline.

Article link from Aviationweek

anjan · Post by **anjan** » 28 Oct 2010 01:56

Gaur wrote:^^
Leave alone PASGT which is being phased out. Even the new MICH (or more commonly known as Advanced Combat helmet) which is replacing PASGT does not offer any protection from 5.56 NATO (leave alone 7.62 mm). As nachiket rightly said, patka is perhaps the only helmet which provides protection against 5.56 mm and 7.62 mm rounds.
Also, as per a young JAKLI Capt I met a few months ago, the jackets are very effective , light weight and present in sufficient quantities. He was not sure of the exact weight but the jackets felt like around 4Kgs to him.

Isn't the patka primarily used in CI ops though? AFAIK there was a standing committee report that spoke about new combat helmet acquisition. Since the diff in cost between the old ones and newer, lighter, better helmets were more than 10% the govt rules won't allow it. I also don't agree with this tendency to club all criticism of equipment as scooter helmet weeping. The basic infantryman's equipment could do with an overhaul. Which is not to say that things aren't happening. They are just happening too slowly.

Edit: Couldn't find the commitee report. Did find this article by Sandeep Unnithan

Craig Alpert · Post by **Craig Alpert** » 28 Oct 2010 02:00

Pakistan violates ceasefire, India retaliates

Poonch, Jammu: In the second ceasefire violation this week, Pakistani troops on Wednesday pounded Indian posts with mortar bombs and rockets and fired indiscriminately along Line of Control (LoC) in Poonch district of Jammu and Kashmir.

Armed with heavy guns and rocket launchers, Pakistani troops shelled Indian forward posts along LoC in Krishnagati sub-sector of Poonch district around 1630 hours, Brigadier General Staff (BGS), 16 Corps, Brig Satesh Dua told PTI.

Two to three posts came under unprovoked shelling and firing, he said.

Indian troops guarding the LoC, took position and fired back leading to heavy exchanges till late in the evening, he said.

Over 20 to 25 mortar bombs and rockets were fired on Indian side, he said adding that there is no casualty on among the Indian troops.

Pakistani troops fired from their Chuha, Pimple and Daku posts and targeted Indian forward posts of Kranti, Kripan-1, Chajja and Kripan-2 posts.

During the previous ceasefire violation on October 24, army jawan Moray Sehdev of 17 Mahar Regiment was killed when Pakistani troops targeted Indian posts with rockets in Krishnagati sub-sector.

Today's ceasefire violation is the seventh in less than a month along the LoC in Jammy and Kashmir.

Gaur · Post by **Gaur** » 28 Oct 2010 02:44

anjan,
I will be the first to admit that all is not hunky dory with our infantry equipment. And my "scooter helmet" jab was not directed at the old M1 style helmets that are still in service. They are a disgrace and need to be replaced. My dig was directed at comments made regarding NSG & MARCOS helmets by some members a couple of years ago. In fact, this is a pretty common joke at BRF which you will come across from time to time.

And yes, the infantry equipment is in need of serious overhaul. This is why I used the term 'frontline troops'. This means that the infantrymen operating in "forward areas" are well equipped in bpj, helmet, optics and NVGs department. This also in no way means that all is well within forward areas too. The infantrymen are very unhappy with 9mm pistol, sterling, grenades and 84mm RCL ( huge quality control problem in this case).

However, as I have said before, the usual hue and cry regarding availability of quality bpjs, helmets and nvgs in forward areas is unwarranted.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Oct 2010 03:21

Gaur, Thanks for the insight. Wasn't there a new grenade shown on DRDO pages?

Anyway whats the unhappiness about current one? And the 9mm pistol?

Gaur · Post by **Gaur** » 28 Oct 2010 03:57

^^
IIRC, there was a news report recently(may be CAG but I am not sure) that said that 30 % of our grenades are duds. Now, I do not know about the authenticity of "30% figure" but some acquaintance of mine (both serving and retired officers) have indeed commented that sometimes grenades do not explode during practice and exercises. I am also told that this is not a recent problem.

Regarding the 9mm pistol, I am told that it is inaccurate and is prone to sometimes discharge without even pressing the trigger. The sterling shares the same problems with the added reliability issue of jamming. The Carl Gustav poses even a greater threat. Sometimes the round fails to eject after the trigger is pressed. Now, the soldier is left in quandary regarding whether the ammunition has gone live or not. So, the poor chap has to now personally take out the round and transport it by hand to a safe location. Obviously, a most terrifying ordeal for any soldier.

SriSri · Post by **SriSri** » 28 Oct 2010 05:16

Yudh Abhyas 2010 - U.S. Army to Host Indian Army in Alaska for Military Exercises

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Oct 2010 21:10

Any reports of the IA conference?

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 28 Oct 2010 22:22

I feel the govt should stop feeding the goat (OFB) all the grass and allow pvt sector into small and medium arms bulk manufacture. many of our auto comp cos have won quality awards for their parts and have good machine tools and staff. they will be able to deliver.

SriSri · Post by **SriSri** » 29 Oct 2010 01:30

DRDO Daksh Unmanned Ground Vehicles for Indian Army; Surveillance UAVs for Counter Terror Operations by Year-end

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 29 Oct 2010 01:48

^^^Gaur, I dont know if you have seen this one:

IA orders 1M of new grenade

Tribune story

Army orders 1 million pieces of grenade developed by DRDO’s Chandigarh lab
Vijay Mohan
Tribune News Service

Chandigarh, July 21
About a decade after being designed, the Army has approved bulk production of lightweight modular hand grenades developed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) for induction.

An order has been placed with the Ordnance Factory Board for supplying one million hand grenades to the Army. Known as Shivalik, these would replace the existing M-36 HE grenades, the original version of which dates back to the Second World War. Developed by DRDO’s Chandigarh-based Terminal Ballistics Research Laboratory, the new grenade overcomes the safety hazards posed by the existing grenades. The M-36, according to the DRDO, has a severe reliability problem due to its flawed fusing system and uneven fragmenting pattern, making it unsafe even for the thrower.

Shivalik uses a modular plastic body and pre-formed cylindrical mild steel fragments for uniform distribution of fragments to overcome these deficiencies. Additional features have been incorporated into the fuse’s arming mechanism to ensure greater safety during storage, transportation and airdropping. Fragmentation distribution can also be controlled for use in offensive or defensive roles by attachment of a fragmentation sleeve. The use of plastic has also resulted in reduction of the grenade’s overall weight. Unlike earlier grenades, it can be para-dropped if urgent re-supplies are needed and can function in temperatures ranging from minus 20 to 55°C.

Besides the Shivalik, the Army has also approved bulk production of the add-on 40 mm under-barrel grenade launcher (UBGL) that is attached to rifles for increasing their firepower. The UBGL, which can be mounted on the INSAS as well as AK-47 rifles, was developed keeping in view the global trend in technology for small arms from the concept of point-target capability to area-target capability. Capable of night-firing, it fills the gap between the maximum range achieved by a hand grenade and the minimum range of a mortar while giving better accuracy than both.

Another unique weapon under development by the DRDO is the “chill grenade”, which uses extract of Bhut Jolokia, certified as the world’s hottest chilli and is native to the northeast. Part of a range of equipment being developed by the DRDO for counter-insurgency and internal security operations, the chilli-grenade is non-toxic and non-lethal and functions like tear-gas used by the security forces. Its pungent fumes can smoke out terrorists or hostile elements from hideouts.

Lookslike the Shivalik was developed te years ago but various trials delayed it.

I think the Germans have a simialr idea of a fragmentation sleeve which makes it multipurpose. Also note the fusing issues started with the old WWII model continued to be in production as M-36

Gaur · Post by **Gaur** » 29 Oct 2010 16:19

^^
That is a very good news. In one of the India Today link provided by anjan in the previous poster, it is mentioned that Shivalik's projected production rate of 50,000/year is worrying. However, the link now seems to be directed at a totally different page so I cannot provide it for reference now.

Generally, I have very low opinion of India Today as far as defence news is concerned. I find India Today extremely biased against defence forces and shows them and their preparedness only in highly negative light. However, if the figure quoted by them is true, I sincerely hope that needed measures are being taken to amp up the rate.

Gaur · Post by **Gaur** » 29 Oct 2010 16:24

Army officer completes first-ever base jump in India

VikB · Post by **VikB** » 29 Oct 2010 16:43

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 831620.cms
"State to build War museum in Rewari"

finally some sense. sorry if posted already.

Juggi G · Post by **Juggi G** » 29 Oct 2010 23:21

The Army's Silver Bullet : But Can It Be Fired ?
India Today » The Big Story

The army's silver bullet for dealing with China's looming superiority: a new mountain strike corps-32,000 troops equipped with ultra-light howitzers, attack and heavy lift helicopters and an armoured brigade of light tanks. This unique strike formation which will attack over the Himalayas, marks a change in strategy, from defensive to offensive-deterrence. It is the 1.1-million strong Indian army's largest expansion in over 30 years.

The army will complete raising two new divisions by 2012.That's the easy part. Current acquisition rates mean it will take at least five years to fully equip this equipment-intensive formation. From boots and rifles to artillery, helicopters and night-fighting devices tied in red tape and bureaucratic delays, the army has bought nothing in over a decade. The IAF is down to 32 squadrons from a sanctioned strength of 39.5 combat squadrons and needs at least 55 combat squadrons to repel a simultaneous ChiPak offensive. A similar slowdown affects key road projects along India's border with China along where these divisions will be deployed. The MoD's 11th Plan sounds an alarm: 'develop infrastructure in the Eastern theatre to meet high-level threat from China beyond 2010.' In 2003, India changed its perverse version of the scorched Earth policy-no roads or infrastructure for the North East-lest these be used by Chinese troops to roll in-unveiling strategic road building projects. Seven years later, only nine of these 73 strategic roads have been completed, severely compromising the army's Cold Start strategy for the mountains.

Juggi G · Post by **Juggi G** » 30 Oct 2010 03:29

Signals Officer to Attempt India’s First Legal BASE Jump Today
The Indian Express

anjan · Post by **anjan** » 30 Oct 2010 04:33

Gaur wrote:^^
That is a very good news. In one of the India Today link provided by anjan in the previous poster, it is mentioned that Shivalik's projected production rate of 50,000/year is worrying. However, the link now seems to be directed at a totally different page so I cannot provide it for reference now.

It's odd. Same article now in 3 pages instead of complete article works.

About the NV eqpt. I was wondering about it during that last gunbattle in srinagar. One of the reporters spoke(to paraphrase him) of "ending this siege by 6 pm" or last light.

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 30 Oct 2010 04:44

Indian Army display military might in Sikkim’s high altitude terrain

Airavat · Post by **Airavat** » 31 Oct 2010 03:55

Shimla, Oct 19 (PTI):

Himachal Pradesh government today offered land for establishment of Dogra Regimental Centre in the state, preferably in Una district, to facilitate the youth majority of whom were serving in Dogra Regiment. The offer was made by chief minister Prem Kumar Dhumal to Lt Gen Jasbir Singh, Chief of Staff, Northern Command, who called on him here today. The Chief Minister said the state government had been persistently raising the issue of shifting the regimental centre from Faizabad in Uttar Pradesh to Himachal Pradesh where sufficient land was available for the purpose. The state government is protecting interests of its soldiers and ex-servicemen by providing them liberal financial assistance and employment, he added.The Lt Gen said it would be in the interest of the youth of the state if Dogra Regimental Centre was relocated in HP.

Gaur · Post by **Gaur** » 31 Oct 2010 05:23

anjan wrote:
Gaur wrote:^^
That is a very good news. In one of the India Today link provided by anjan in the previous poster, it is mentioned that Shivalik's projected production rate of 50,000/year is worrying. However, the link now seems to be directed at a totally different page so I cannot provide it for reference now.
It's odd. Same article now in 3 pages instead of complete article works.

About the NV eqpt. I was wondering about it during that last gunbattle in srinagar. One of the reporters spoke(to paraphrase him) of "ending this siege by 6 pm" or last light.

Though I do not know about the exact reasons for this particular battle, IA (or any army for that matter) is always reluctant to hunt at night. Night vision is even now not as good as daylight. I have also been told that some particular weather conditions (especially rain) adversely affect the equipment's effectiveness. This is why terrorists prefer to infiltrate at night in spite of adequate presence of Night Vision equipment at border posts.