Telangana Monitor

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 02 Dec 2010 00:01

RamaY ji,
I thought it was illegal for Indian citizens to hold dual citizenship with other nations. Can you please enlighten me on this about SG?

Second, I have been following up closely on the EJ issue, and been making the rounds of the various sects active. Have been engaging in discussions within some circles who study it (themselves with ecclesiastical affiliations). The AP situation seems to be a three-way fight between RC, Pentecostals and US-style EJ's. What is not available to me is the exact affiliation of the YSR clan and whether Jagan has been exploring more than one arm of this three way contest. It may explain the change in support from Delhi. However, this three way fight can be good news.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 02 Dec 2010 00:04

^ I was responding to some post by vijayk.

I found this on wiki

A senior Congress leader Pranab Mukherjee said that she surrendered her Italian passport to the Italian Embassy 27 April 1983. Yet surrendering a passport does not amount to the loss of citizenship as commented by President of Janata Party.[26][38][39] However, Italian nationality law did not permit dual nationality until 1992. So by acquiring Indian citizenship in 1983 she would automatically have lost Italian citizenship.[40]

The Italian citizenship law of 1992 did open a window of opportunity for those who lost their citizenship prior to 1992 to re-register as Italian citizens until the deadline of 31 December 1997.[41] Sonia Gandhi has neither confirmed nor denied that she took advantage of this opportunity. At present the Government of India does not allow dual citizenship.[42]

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 02 Dec 2010 00:40

RamaY wrote:Great Andhra guy writes "Ministers Resigning From KKR Cabinet " http://greatandhra.com/viewnews.php?id= ... 15&scat=16

It is not even 24 hours that the Ministers participated in Swearing in Ceremony. But the scenario of resignations has started. V Vasantah Kumar who was allotted Tourism Ministry is resigning stating that he was given the portfolio that is not so vital. He stated that Reddy community leaders and Telangana leaders were given better portfolios but he was betrayed.

Same is the case with Komati Reddy Venkata Reddy who was given Infrastructure Development. He too is in the spree of resigning from his Ministry. Ponnala Lakshmaih who was given IT Ministry is also in the mood of resigning.

Looks like 7 are expected to resign.

If ministers follow, MLAs follow. Local leaders, esp in Cuddapah are resigning soon after Jagan resigned. Need to see how many go. If it is 30 congress govt will fall.

Vatti Vasanth Kumar & Komatireddy resign!

In a major shock to the Kiran Kumar Reddy's government, several of the cabinet ministers are in the process of submitting their resignations.

Several ministers are unhappy over the ministries that were allotted to them.

The first to resign from the cabinet is Vatti Vasanth Kumar(Tourism) and he was followed by Komati Reddy Venkat Reddy(Moulika Sadupayalu). They were given less important portfolios like tourism and Investments.

In fact Vatti Vasanth kumar also resigned from his MLA seat!

Incidentally it was just few hours back that the ministers were allotted the portfolios.

Around ten ministers including the likes of Mukesh Goud, Danam Nagendar, Shankar Rao, Dharmana Prasada Rao, Damodar Raja Narasimha,Botsa etc have met in the house of Vatti Vasanth Kumar and the remaining seven ministers are also likely to submit their resignations.

On the other hand, Kiran Kumar Reddy deputed several aides and also talking directly to cajole these ministers and one has to wait for another couple of hours to see on what would happen.

Well surely Kiran Kumar will have a sleepless night!!!!!!!

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 02 Dec 2010 01:37

As I read the politics party guy, he sounds like some of our BRFites who are unwilling to believe in the corrupt nature of MMS or SG/RG leadership.

He claims that 12 AP ministers paid Rs 100 crore each to get into new AP cabinet but thinks that it must be the work of the new CM or one of the decision making levels, but not Sonia Gandhi

If one were to believe this doctored thoughts, SG/RG/MMS are victims of some political hostage drama

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 02 Dec 2010 02:00

ShyamSP wrote:
Looks like 7 are expected to resign. If ministers follow, MLAs follow. Local leaders, esp in Cuddapah are resigning soon after Jagan resigned. Need to see how many go. If it is 30 congress govt will fall.

Vatti Vasanth Kumar & Komatireddy resign!

In a major shock to the Kiran Kumar Reddy's government, several of the cabinet ministers are in the process of submitting their resignations.

Several ministers are unhappy over the ministries that were allotted to them.

The first to resign from the cabinet is Vatti Vasanth Kumar(Tourism) and he was followed by Komati Reddy Venkat Reddy(Moulika Sadupayalu). They were given less important portfolios like tourism and Investments.

In fact Vatti Vasanth kumar also resigned from his MLA seat!

Incidentally it was just few hours back that the ministers were allotted the portfolios.

Around ten ministers including the likes of Mukesh Goud, Danam Nagendar, Shankar Rao, Dharmana Prasada Rao, Damodar Raja Narasimha,Botsa etc have met in the house of Vatti Vasanth Kumar and the remaining seven ministers are also likely to submit their resignations.

On the other hand, Kiran Kumar Reddy deputed several aides and also talking directly to cajole these ministers and one has to wait for another couple of hours to see on what would happen.

Well surely Kiran Kumar will have a sleepless night!!!!!!!

WOW! Wondering what happened to DIE-nasty fear or magic! These guys don't care any more? Why? Is it Bihar or is there a general feeling of sinking ship? Even without 200 MPs, these people are were more scare of Eye Command before 2009. Even with 210 MPs, the CON guys are not scared of eye command any more. Some thing went wrong with the plan of ITALIAN dynasty? Or is it that all these CON party guys realized the treachery and traitorous nature of the DIE-nasty to the nation and they are rebelling against them? At least, Rajiv and Indira were always nationalists. This crop is dangerously anti-national.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 Dec 2010 02:22

Hindu reports ~10 ministers quite upset with their portfolios.

vijayk, They might think they have Jagan in their future. Earlier there was no alternative, hence maximum grovelling.

ShivaS · Post by **ShivaS** » 02 Dec 2010 03:31

One hundreth time for the like of Rupesh

Italian citizenship is never revoked nor surrendered, once Italian you are Italian. So Sonia G goes on top of the roof and croones I am an Indian everyday at the break of dawn it wont dawn on some..

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 02 Dec 2010 05:24

ShivaS wrote:One hundreth time for the like of Rupesh

Italian citizenship is never revoked nor surrendered, once Italian you are Italian. So Sonia G goes on top of the roof and croones I am an Indian everyday at the break of dawn it wont dawn on some..

100% agree.

Anyone remember Alberto Fujimori? elected as President of Peru, claimed he does not know any thing other than Peru. When corruption scandal broke, he ran to Japan and got instant asylum.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 Dec 2010 10:37

Wish the KKR cabinet stays till the SKC report is released to ensure INC doesnt pull a fast one.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 02 Dec 2010 23:43

ramana wrote:Wish the KKR cabinet stays till the SKC report is released to ensure INC doesnt pull a fast one.

There is a news that Jagan is planning to start party after Sri Krishna report.

That raised my antenna. Is jagan positioned to trap dissidents in case congress wants to give telangana.
They all know something already and are doing all this by design and, esp., with timing.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Dec 2010 03:36

Looks like crisis averted for now.

Chief Minister gets reprieve

To me the gripes look more like groupism and regionalism. In other words a sub-set of the thread topic.

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Sources said that an agitated Mr. Satyanarayana presented to Mr. Kiran ‘statistical proof' of glaring imbalances in distribution of 11 key portfolios like Home, Finance, Revenue, Major Irrigation, Roads & Buildings and Municipal Administration. He reportedly pointed out that eight of these 11 subjects had been entrusted to Reddys and that Ministers from seven coastal Andhra districts -- Srikakulam to Guntur – given lightweight portfolios, compared to Ministers from Rayalaseema and Telangana regions. The Chief Minister reportedly assured that he would take remedial action. An aide of Mr. Kiran later said that the problem caused by the mood of rebellion among several Ministers on Wednesday had subsided.

As a consequence of these interactions, the hour-long Cabinet meeting that followed turned out to be a smooth affair. The Ministers approved payment of 8.56 per cent Dearness Allowance to Government employees, adopted a resolution appreciating the services of former Chief Minister K. Rosaiah and deciding to resume the ‘ rachabanda' (mass contact) programme conceived by the late YSR to reach out to the grassroots level.

On a day of much behind-the-scene political activity, Finance Minister Anam Ramnarayan Reddy, Revenue Minister N. Raghuveera Reddy, Panchayat Raj Minister K. Jana Reddy and APCC general secretary G. Rudraraju, MLC, interceded on behalf of Chief Minister to mollify the Ministers. They shuttled to and from the Ministers' residences to the Chief Minister's office in the Secretariat to broker peace.

{New power brokers to watch for!}

AICC leaders pitched in with their efforts because, at one stage, some of the Ministers threatened to keep away from the Cabinet. AICC president's political secretary Ahmed Patel and AICC general secretary Veerappa Moily telephoned Mr. Satyanarayana, Mr. Prasada Rao and Tourism Minister Vatti Vasant Kumar while they were confabulating. They advised them against resorting to any step that would embarrass their own government.

They were successful in prevailing upon Mr. Vasant Kumar to withdraw his resignation as MLA, but the Minister was unrelenting in his decision to quit the Cabinet, at least till he met Congress president Sonia Gandhi.

Congress leaders were working on the Minister till late in the evening to persuade him to withdraw his letter to the Chief Minister.

It more about egos and H&D than Jagan in this instance. AICC had factored in Jagan (more Ministers from one group and two regions) but not the individual H&Ds. So bad marks for Moily for not knowing the dynamics.

To back my opinion:

Caste, regional disparity upset Ministers

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 03 Dec 2010 03:49

ShyamSP wrote:
ramana wrote:Wish the KKR cabinet stays till the SKC report is released to ensure INC doesnt pull a fast one.
There is a news that Jagan is planning to start party after Sri Krishna report.

That raised my antenna. Is jagan positioned to trap dissidents in case congress wants to give telangana.
They all know something already and are doing all this by design and, esp., with timing.

Same thoughts here...

If I were high-command, I would always keep that option. Reduce my risks.
- Give Telangana and absorb KCR's TRS. Assured 10-12 MP seats and Hyderabad income sources.
- Let YSJ fight in Seemandhra. It would be a three way fight there between INC, TDP, and YSJ.

On the other hand YSJ's strategy could be to
- Wait till 12/31. Telangana is not my issue. If T-state is formed, I have my own group like Konda Surekha etc.,
- If no T-state on 12/31, let INC take complete blame/responsibility for post 12/31 development. Join hands with KCR and support separate Telangana.

Imagine YSJ+TRS+BSP combination

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 03 Dec 2010 04:19

Let me as a lawyer clarify: As of now there is no duel citizen ship. So if some how Sonia is holding Duel Citizenship then she is not Indian Citizen any more. Further please understnad her citizenship is not natural that is not because of birth like you and me. It is because she after living here for decades taken it (said to be under resure from Indira Gandhi) when Rajeev entered politics. It is also reported she and her husbend tried to take refuge in Italian Embacy immediately after election results in 1977. How for this is true we may never know just like many other things.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 04 Dec 2010 00:07

CBN of TDP expects
Mid Term Poll or President's Rule

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 04 Dec 2010 00:07

I think I figured it out

New CM KKR gave all important portfolios to Telangana ministers. He is asking all unhappy-seemandhra ministers to wait for few months for a cabinet reshuffle.

I think they are not going to give T-state on 12/31. Instead they will announce a time bound economic package. The civil-war criminal-war nonsense will be suppressed brutally and will be done by Telangana congress ministers.

The cabinet reshuffle happens after a somber reflection of govt excesses in TRS/Maoist suppression.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 04 Dec 2010 01:46

RamaY wrote:I think I figured it out

New CM KKR gave all important portfolios to Telangana ministers. He is asking all unhappy-seemandhra ministers to wait for few months for a cabinet reshuffle.

I think they are not going to give T-state on 12/31. Instead they will announce a time bound economic package. The civil-war criminal-war nonsense will be suppressed brutally and will be done by Telangana congress ministers.

The cabinet reshuffle happens after a somber reflection of govt excesses in TRS/Maoist suppression.

Another way to look at is they kept Reddy core. If Reddies don't want to split or don't want to lose control on Hyderabad, T core can't do much.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 04 Dec 2010 02:28

Good summary of the situation to date in AP.

CM gets a breather

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Assembly Speaker N. Kiran Kumar Reddy, 50, did not have any political baggage, never having been a Minister. And, he belonged to the politically dominant Reddy community. Although a YSR loyalist, his choice, it was thought, could possibly checkmate Mr. Jaganmohan Reddy as they belonged to the same caste and hailed from the same region.

New Delhi's faith in Mr. Kiran Reddy seemed justified. The Chief Minister began his innings in a no-nonsense manner and promised to provide transparent governance, improve delivery systems and be strict with those transgressing law and order. The fairy tale seemed set to turn into a nightmare when Mr. Jaganmohan Reddy quit the Congress along with his mother Vijayamma, who was an MLA. However, the young leader could not rock the Congress boat as he could muster the support of no more than 20 to 25 of the Congress MLAs.

As a hedge, the Congress got an assurance from film-star K. Chiranjeeevi that his Praja Rajyam Party (PRP) would support the government in return for three Cabinet berths and possibly a Rajya Sabha seat next year. Mr. Jaganmohan Reddy, however, had other plans – to launch his own party soon and become Chief Minister in 2014 when the next Assembly elections come up.

It was the Congress' anxiety, if not obsession, to checkmate Mr. Jaganmohan Reddy that was partly responsible for triggering the latest round of instability. The Chief Minister's inexperience was also in evidence when he failed to strike the traditional balance in terms of caste and region in distributing important portfolios.

{But he had no choice per the reports. All the portfolios were decided in Delhi!}

Cabinet formation in Andhra Pradesh is invariably a tricky exercise based on a rather complicated matrix. As in other States, caste, region, religion and an MLA's political stature have to be taken into account. What makes the task different in Andhra Pradesh is the fact that a further balance has to be struck in the distribution of portfolios on the basis of region and caste.

A ratio of 60:40 is maintained between the Andhra (including Rayalaseema) and Telangana regions under a gentlemen's agreement that was reached in 1956 ahead of the formation of the State of Andhra Pradesh. Mr. Kiran Reddy did observe this norm by inducting 23 Ministers from Andhra (eight of them from Rayalaseema) and 16 Ministers from Telangana (41 per cent).

But he draw flak for inducting 13 persons belonging to the Reddy community into the Cabinet (one-third of the team), including three leaders from Kadapa district. His effort to constitute a please-all Cabinet boomeranged.

Nearly 28 Ministers had been members of YSR's Cabinet. Many of them had tasted blood by getting away with defying Mr. Rosaiah. No sooner were they were sworn in than about a dozen Ministers rebelled against the allotment of ‘lightweight' portfolios to seniors.

Eleven portfolios are considered to be key ones and are traditionally distributed in a certain proportion among the regions and castes. These are Finance, Revenue, Home, Major Irrigation, Panchayati Raj, Municipal Administration and Urban Development, Power, Major Industries, Roads and Buildings, Agriculture, and Health. Crucially, eight of these 11 portfolios were this time entrusted to members of the Reddy community, two to members of the Backward Classes and one to a Scheduled Caste person. YSR, during his second term as Chief Minister in 2009, had given Reddys only four of the top 11.
{So the formula is to double the earlier allocation in order to get support. Incidentally all these are loot ministries. Even PR as one gets loot to appoint.}

Not surprisingly, the discontented Ministers managed to give this ‘unequal' distribution of portfolios a ‘social justice' twist. The Chief Minister's camp defended the allotment on the ground that he had limited options since 53 out of the 156 Congress MLAs are Reddys. The Congress also failed to fulfil its promise to appoint a Deputy Chief Minister from Telangana.

For now, Mr. Kiran Reddy has got a breather by promising the prominent ones among the peeved Ministers — Botcha Satyanarayana and Dharmana Prasada Rao — to rectify the imbalance in two to three months. The high command also intervened to ensure that the new Chief Minister did not cave in to their demands.

History has repeated itself as farce in Andhra Pradesh often enough. It had four Congress Chief Ministers during the period from 1978 to 1983, and three during the period from 1989 to 1994. At the end of both these periods, the party lost power to N.T. Rama Rao, who rode to power on the slogan of Telugu pride. It is striking that in the 18 months since the Assembly elections in May 2009, three Chief Ministers have ruled the State.

The Congress leadership's handling of affairs concerning its only government in the South clearly requires greater sensitivity to ground realities, as its choices are limited. A mid-term election is not a choice. For, the TRS will be able to leverage the Telangana sentiment to sweep the 119 seats in the region, while Mr. Jaganmohan Reddy and Mr. N. Chandrababu Naidu's Telugu Desam Party could inflict heavy damage to the party. If that happens, the Chief Minister's ambition of winning 41 out of 42 Lok Sabha seats from Andhra Pradesh and help make Rahul Gandhi the next Prime Minister, could well remain but a pipe dream.

Wow! Is this a newspaper article or an advisory column for INC!

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 04 Dec 2010 07:43

ramana wrote:Good summary of the situation to date in AP.

CM gets a breather

If that happens, the Chief Minister's ambition of winning 41 out of 42 Lok Sabha seats from Andhra Pradesh and help make Rahul Gandhi the next Prime Minister, could well remain but a pipe dream.

If this happens, the dumbest people of the Universe award should be given to Telugu folks.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 04 Dec 2010 17:54

He made such statement even today. fat chance. Telugu people are already sick of congress party

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 04 Dec 2010 18:11

Telugu people are the dumbest people of all.I have no doubt in my mind that inspite of all the happenings, they will still vote for the congress.
I am simply unable to understand why would any Telugu want to vote for congress ? Of course, Telugus are not alone in this. You have Bengalis and the Commies, Tamils and DMK, Delhi and Congress etc etc

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 04 Dec 2010 19:59

Rony wrote:Telugu people are the dumbest people of all.I have no doubt in my mind that inspite of all the happenings, they will still vote for the congress.
I am simply unable to understand why would any Telugu want to vote for congress ? Of course, Telugus are not alone in this. You have Bengalis and the Commies, Tamils and DMK, Delhi and Congress etc etc

During TDP rule they were bringing chaitaiyanam (consiciouseness) in people. But dumbing down started in 2004 with 'Con'gress (as opposed to 'Pro'gress) rule. It looks like ultimate goal of Congress is to make Telugus Pakis (YSR did it RS, and TRS experiment did it to Telanagana people, PRP experiment to UA). Pak-ing process make it easy for a few elites to control vast masses and sustain their rule. Blackmail politics and pitching one against another became norm to make people helpless. They want to go to pre-TDP era when they AP people were voting only for Congress.

AP was in 2 or 3 spot in progress, now is in 5-6th and going south. If Center takes Hyderabad and split state it is unrecoverable blow to AP. Telugu leadership is amiss here with TDP hands tied down with emotional blackmail of splitting state and no other leader (a la NTR) coming out to pull people out of rut.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 04 Dec 2010 20:18

Don't get gloomy. AP will get out of its downtime. Have patience. Yes it is no doubt it will hit the bottom in the next six months and it will rise breaking all shakles. It is just a kundali thingy.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 04 Dec 2010 20:52

Rony, Right after Emergency AP returned 41 seats to INC. I asked a lot of people -rural to urban. The single answer is they idenitfy INC with India. The cynical INC misused this trust and have repaid AP people with splitting policies.
As Telugu saying goes"Valla papam pandali!"

Andhras (Telugu is later identity and they comprise most of Deccan and northern TN) held the land together from early history and will do so again.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 05 Dec 2010 01:47

Cong bosses dos and donts for Kiran Kumar

Hyderabad, Dec 4 (PTI) Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister Nallari Kiran Kumar Reddy may be in the driver''s seat in the state but it is the Congress bosses in Delhi who will be the remote control of his vehicle--the state government.
A clear set of do''s and don''ts has been prescribed for Kiran Kumar to steer the government in a way to strenghthen Congress in the state through strict implementation of the schemes promised in the election manifesto, highly-placed government sources said.
"It is only a move by the high command to strengthen the Congress party in the state with trouble lurking in the form of Y S Jaganmohan Reddy and Telangana. It is essentially to let Kiran Kumar focus primarily on governance and not let troubles from any quarter bog him down," a top Congress leader and a key government functionary said.
Significantly, state Governor E S L Narasimhan is also being actively involved in the governance to lend stability to government.According to sources, the Congress high command reportedly issued certain "guidelines" to the ten-day-old Chief Minister to be followed scrupulously.
As per the guidelines, the Chief Minister will have to take any major policy decision only in consultation with the Pradesh Congress Committee president.
The Chief Minister will have to tour at least two districts every week to improve mass contact and closely monitor implementation of government programmes.
While Kiran Kumar will have to submit a weekly performance report to Governor Narasimhan and AICC President Sonia Gandhi, the Governor will in turn forward the report to the Union Home Secretary, according to the sources. State Chief Secretary S V Prasad and Director General of Police K Aravinda Rao have reportedly been directed to brief the Governor every week on the government's performance in general and law and order in particular.
Review of law and order by the Governor assumes significance as there is apprehension of trouble by pro-Telangana elements after the five-member Justice Srikrishna Committee submits its report to the Centre on the statehood issue. (more) PTI DVB

Arre bhai - Telangana denahi hai tho, pro-Telangana walo.n se trouble kyo.n aayegi. Sense nahi.n banti !!!!!!!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 05 Dec 2010 04:45

I think the Constitution is being violated by having the Governor being briefed while there is still a CM> Only in case of President's rule the Governor gets direct briefing. I am not a Telugu pride person but this is an insult and borderline illegal.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 05 Dec 2010 16:54

Not just insult sir. it si disgusting. When our MLA's stand in begging line before 10 Janapath for minister posts and state CM says he wants to make Rahul Baba PM in 2012 is his main desire what we cansay. Congress is already lost 2012 and needs to do great repaid act from now on wards to retain power then, I also dont think they will not give Telangana but one can be sure with foreign ruling class which is what INC is now.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 05 Dec 2010 18:56

Congress MPs didn’t let PRP join government

It was a last-minute decision by the Congress high command that kept the Chiranjeevi-led Praja Rajyam Party (PRP) out of the Kiran Kumar Reddy government in Andhra Pradesh last week. This was done after three party MPs, Sabbam Hari, Undavalli Arun Kumar and Mekapati Rajamohan Reddy threatened to join rebel Y.S. Jagan Mohan Reddy if PRP's 18 MLAs were allowed to join the coalition. They conveyed their decision to Ghulam Nabi Azad, Ahmed Patel and Veerappa Moily.

This development came as a spoiler for Chiranjeevi, who and three of his MLAswould have become ministers in the government. PRP's political affairs committee met on 29 November and agreed to join the government.

While Rajamohan Reddy has been opposed to the PRP from the beginning, Hari and Arun Kumar won the 2009 elections over their PRP rivals. The three MPs, who were close to the late YSR's family, are angry at the way the Congress is cosying up with the PRP to save the Kiran government after Jagan's desertion.

"I do not want to reveal the names of the other two MPs, but three of us have objected to the wooing of Chiranjeevi. We felt it was nothing but betrayal of our mandate (in the 2009 elections). I told the party higher ups on Monday (29 November) that the consequences would be serious," Hari told The Sunday Guardian.

J. Gautham, PRP's official spokesman said, "The Congress high command has asked us to wait for some time before joining the government. Even though a majority of us were unwilling to join the government, our leader Chiranjeevi convinced us to do so." The not-so-secret parleys between the Congress and Chiranjeevi have been going on for the last few months and both sides reached an understanding during the Rajya Sabha elections in June. After a meeting with Congress president Sonia Gandhi, Chiranjeevi agreed to support the ruling party in lieu of an Upper House seat in two years. "Since then, the Congress has been using Chiranjeevi as a stand-by in case there was any trouble from Jagan. After the Congress decided to replace K. Rosaiah as the CM, Sonia Gandhi invited Chiranjeevi to New Delhi and sought his cooperation," said a PRP MLA.

Initially, Kiran Kumar Reddy had made it clear that his Cabinet would consist of only Congress MLAs, but he later changed his mind on the advice of Ahmed Patel and asked Chiranjeevi to join the ministry and offered four Cabinet berths. "We will wait and watch the situation for some more time. For now, we will play the role of a constructive Opposition and extend cooperation to the government," PRP MLA K. Kanna Babu said. Another reason why the Congress kept out PRP was because PRP's Allagadda MLA Sobha Nagi Reddy and her husband, former MP Bhooma Nagi Reddy, who are close to Jagan, had warned Chiranjeevi that at least six PRP MLAs will join Jagan if the PRP joined the government.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 06 Dec 2010 13:38

MRPS sets new deadline for government

Now the plot thickens. Seems Jagan is testing waters using Manda Krishna Madiga.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 Dec 2010 02:02

Sandhya Jain writes in Pioneer.. Also means its quite an important event...

Jagan rattles dynasty

Jagan rattles dynastyDecember 07, 2010 2:26:37 AM

Sandhya Jain

By rebelling against the Nehru-Gandhi dynasty whose control over the Congress is unquestionable, Jaganmohan Reddy has shaken the party high command

Jaganmohan Reddy’s revolt against Congress president Sonia Gandhi’s refusal to anoint him as Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh signals the end of her personal hegemony within the party and undermines the Nehruvian edifice upon which this family’s domination of the polity rests. This will have an escalating impact, especially in States where leaders do not need party high command endorsement for legitimacy and support.

This is evident from the manner in which Mr Jaganmohan Reddy’s supporters went on the rampage all over the State after he quit the Congress on November 29, and vandalised the party office in Kadapa and renamed it YSR Bhavan from Indira Bhavan. Citizens long perturbed over the manner in which public roads, Government buildings, welfare schemes, et al have been named after scions of the Nehru-Gandhi dynasty, could never have imagined the denouement would begin within the Congress.

So incensed were young Reddy’s supporters that they torched and locked up several party offices across the State, defaced and burnt posters of Ms Sonia Gandhi, and even burnt her effigies in some places.

Mr Jaganmohan Reddy’s exit was expected after his television channel, Sakshi, launched a vituperative attack against Ms Gandhi, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and the Congress, which virtually coincided with the rout in the Bihar Assembly election. This salvo followed a year-long battle of wits with the high command which disapproved of his ‘Odarpu Yatra’ to ostensibly condole families whose members allegedly died of shock or committed suicide after the accidental death of Chief Minister YS Rajasekhara Reddy in September 2009; it was widely seen as Mr Jaganmohan Reddy’s attempt to stake claim to the Chief Minister’s office.

The Congress asked Chief Minister K Rosaiah to step down, but installed Mr Kirankumar Reddy instead, and incensed Mr Jaganmohan Reddy by luring Mr YS Vivekananda Reddy (brother of YSR Reddy) to New Delhi. Cornered, he wrote a five-page resignation letter to Ms Gandhi, claiming to have borne humiliation for 14 months while a malicious campaign was unleashed against him, his family, and his late father. The last straw was the conspiracy to vertically split the family of the leader who twice gave the Congress victory in Andhra Pradesh by offering a Cabinet berth to his brother.

In a dig at Ms Gandhi, who used the praetorian guard to take over the Congress and became President by physically throwing the incumbent Sitaram Kesari out of his office room and having her own nameplate pasted on the door, Mr Jaganmohan Reddy said that though 150 MLAs supported his elevation after his father’s death, he obeyed her instructions and supported Mr K Rosaiah. Thereafter, he helped in the smooth election of Mr N Kirankumar Reddy.

On his controversial ‘Odarpu Yatra’, he insisted it was his duty to visit the families of those afflicted with grief after his father’s death. He twice postponed the yatra, but finally took off and was attacked from several quarters after he drew overwhelming public adulation. He felt the party high command was behind efforts to erase the memory of his late father from the hearts of the people. Matters did not improve when YSR Reddy’s widow, Vijayalakshmi, tried to mediate, and it took the family a month to gain an audience with Ms Gandhi.

News reports suggest that Ms Gandhi lost her temper with Ms Vijayalakshmi Reddy and demanded that the yatra be cancelled, or reformatted as meetings in district party offices, thus scuttling Mr Jaganmohan Reddy’s ambitions to emerge as the next mass leader after his father. Mr Jaganmohan Reddy was reportedly infuriated at his mother’s humiliation, a feeling aggravated by sponsored opposition to the installation of YSR statues in many villages.

In a frontal attack on Ms Gandhi, Mr Jaganmohan Reddy alleged that some State leaders called Press conferences to malign the late YSR Reddy after personally meeting her. YSR Reddy’s photographs disappeared from party programmes and Government functions. Mr Jaganmohan Reddy needled the high command by alleging that many people had doubts about the helicopter crash in which his father died. He rubbed it in by defending the Sakshi channel diatribe against the leadership on the occasion of the party’s 125th anniversary, as also its coverage of the Bihar Assembly election.

Claiming he could not bear the daily humiliations, Mr Jaganmohan Reddy said he and his mother were resigning from their positions as MP and MLA respectively, and leaving the party. As a parting shot, he said that despite the malicious campaign that he was conspiring to bring down the Andhra Pradesh Government, he would not take the coup route taken by Mr N Chandrababu Naidu of the Telugu Desam Party.

Yet there is little doubt that this is precisely the revenge Mr Jaganmohan Reddy will wreak on Congress. But he will move with caution. As of now, he is said to have the unstinted support of 20 to 25 MLAs, but if he moves prematurely to split the party, the Congress could make up its numbers with 18 MLAs from cine star Chiranjeevi’s Praja Rajyam Party.

Hence, for now, he has asked his supporters not to quit the Congress, though he is reputedly finalising plans to launch a new party — Youth Sramik Ryot (YSR) Congress — from Kadapa, his erstwhile Lok Sabha constituency.

Mr Jaganmohan Reddy is waiting for the right opportunity, and that may come sooner, rather than later. The fledgling Kirankumar Government is already in trouble, with Ministers Vatti Vasantha Kumar and Komatireddi Venkat Reddy resigning on December 2 itself, following the allocation of portfolios after the swearing-in ceremony, though the former has since returned. The aggrieved Ministers claimed that all ‘plum’ (revenue earning) portfolios were cornered by the powerful Reddy community, which received 14 berths in the new Cabinet, while backward classes received ‘dry’ portfolios and only 10 Cabinet posts — a shocking imbalance of caste equations in a party once noted for social engineering. At least five other Ministers, including a Reddy, are ripe for revolt, so clearly we have not heard the last of this saga.

Suddenly the Nehruvian norm of top-down leadership and rootless satraps for States is under challenge. Simultaneously, the plans of Ms Gandhi, once perceived as de facto queen-empress poised to install her son and heir as Prime Minister at an opportune moment, came unstuck at the first attempt to nudge Mr Manmohan Singh. If he seemed a pushover when the Supreme Court made the startling demand for an affidavit on his role in the 2G Spectrum scam, he soon proved immovable. The Supreme Court blinked and virtually apologised, and the Bihar election results shattered Mr Rahul Gandhi’s prime ministerial ambitions. Ms Gandhi retreated, defending Mr Manmohan Singh’s spotless character...

Wow so much drama is going on while we have screaming headlines.

Rupesh · Post by **Rupesh** » 07 Dec 2010 02:44

OT

"When Rahul Gandhi was asked by a student in Gujarat to name the most honest ministers, he named Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, P Chidambaram, A K Antony and Jairam Ramesh. He did not mention Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee, who is the party’s main troubleshooter, whether it is negotiating with the Opposition over the stalemate in Parliament or trying to contain the fallout of the 2-G scam. Mukherjee is reportedly deeply hurt by his pointed exclusion, which suggests that the Gandhi family continues to harbour doubts about him, despite his services to the party.

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Minister for Urban Development Jaipal Reddy was hopeful of being made chief minister of Andhra Pradesh, because of his seniority and experience. The surprise selection of N Kiran Kumar Reddy took aback not just Jaipal Reddy, but most in the party. The 50-year-old Reddy was introduced to Rahul Gandhi by M M Pallam Raju, MoS for Defence. Both Reddy and Raju fit in to Rahul’s preferred mould for politicians. They are relatively young for politicians and have public school backgrounds. Raju and Reddy, in fact, were contemporaries at the Hyderabad Public School, the city’s leading school. Reddy is a former Ranji player who belongs to the right community.

But the new chief minister has already rubbed several in his party the wrong way. When he flew down to Delhi recently, he did not bother to consult party MPs about the Cabinet formation. Senior ministers were informed of their inclusion only around midnight or in the early morning of the swearing-in. The political grapevine claims that on his way to and from the swearing-in, a cat crossed the new chief minister’s path. Superstition was reinforced when a minister quit Reddy’s cabinet on the very first day. Rahul Gandhi’s former choice for Maharashtra, Ashok Chavan, came a cropper and the party is keeping its fingers crossed over his latest selection.

Pointed omission

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 07 Dec 2010 05:39

Cool. Sandhya Jain's article is a keeper. Not because we don't know what she wrote but it is the summary of all that is happenning in AP INC over the several months. Now read Arun Shourie's interview with Shiela Bhat here Nobody fears Sonia Gandhi

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 07 Dec 2010 19:58

Money supply from AP is now cut for INC let us see how and from where fresh loot will come to the INC

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 08 Dec 2010 07:06

Narayana Rao wrote:Money supply from AP is now cut for INC let us see how and from where fresh loot will come to the INC

http://newsofap.com/newsofap-29917-21-w ... essly.html

he YS Jagan's aides have ridiculed reports that have come in some news media that Sonia Gandhi has given charge to leaders like KK, VHR etc to get all the information regarding YS Jagan's wealth.

"Did Sonia Gandhi remember about Jagan's welath only now? Then how come she shamelessly used the money that Jagan made the Bellary Reddy brothers to give her to save her government after the Communist parties withdrew support to the UPA?" wondered Jagan's aides like Ambati.

He also said that Sonia Gandhi is free to do any inquiry and they do not shy from any inquiries like how her family evaded inquiry into the Bofors scam by making Quattrochi to flee India or on how Rajiv Gandhi helped culprits in Bhopal gas tragedy to flee India at midnight!

Rahul Mehta · Post by **Rahul Mehta** » 08 Dec 2010 09:20

RamaY wrote:CT++1: Rajamata encouraged YSR and gave him unprecedented freedom as he was for EJing of AP. But as he got into the final phase of his first term, he developed a larger than life self-confidence and went to kubja Tirumala hills. This woke up the Indic lobby in INC and brought Rajamata to realize that there are some red lines even she cannot cross in order to keep the dynasty at helm. YSR tried to chalk his own glory path by going direct with EJ-fundraisers (remember the fight between KAPaul types and YSR group of EJs?) and in the process got accidented (by whom???). Rajamata want to be the sole spearhead of EJ-fundraisers in Indian-dominion and doesn't want EJs go regional and build their own satraps. That could be the reason behind YSJ getting sidelined even though he enjoys some popular support and has some access to EJ-fundraisers.

Flaw is that there is no Indic Lobby in INC in anymore. There were very few pro-India at top even in 1948, though bottom was 100% pro-Indic. Many newcomers were pro-India but they never made to top. And after MNCs took over media in 1990s, each pro-India in INC top was systematically weeded out, physically or politically. The YSR was accidented because he did not support MA's (read Rockefeller) demand that oil royalties should be peanuts. Rockefeller doesnt want Jagan to become CM, and Sonia reports to Rockefeller, and so is trying to cut wings of Jagan.

Why would SG still keep her duel-citizenship? What is so valuable in her Italian citizenship that is worth more than Indian-PMship?

Rajmata decided not to become PM because rising agitation against her becoming PM in 2004. Sushma\APJK have no proof that Sonia still has Italian citizenship, as Govt of Italy would never testify that Sonia still has Italian citizenship. So Italian citizenship is non-issue. Also, Italy or Denmark or many 2-bit countries would give her asylum anyday she wants. Rockefeller would not let his agents rot in prison.

RamaY wrote:And Rajamata keeps her duel citizenship. So India is a colony of Italy? And Mr. clean MMS made this happen?

MMS is not clean. His is filthiest PM we ever got.

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In any case, on ASAP basis we should force PM to sign an Govt Notification that enables us citizens to issue "Narco Test in Public" after majority voting. This way, we can conduct Narco Test of Rajmata, MMS and many others in public get truth on YSR's accident.

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Someone: If that happens, the Chief Minister's ambition of winning 41 out of 42 Lok Sabha seats from Andhra Pradesh and help make Rahul Gandhi the next Prime Minister, could well remain but a pipe dream.

vijayk : If this happens, the dumbest people of the Universe award should be given to Telugu folks.

Or, it could be EVMs, in which case dumbest (or defunctnest)award should go to pro-EVM activists. And laziest people on earth should go to us anti-EVM activist, because it is due to us that EVMs are still continuing.

Rony wrote:Telugu people are the dumbest people of all.I have no doubt in my mind that inspite of all the happenings, they will still vote for the congress. I am simply unable to understand why would any Telugu want to vote for congress ? Of course, Telugus are not alone in this. You have Bengalis and the Commies, Tamils and DMK, Delhi and Congress etc etc

Reason-1 : EVMs

Reason-2 : People are fed of Congress neta because of corruption. So tell me, which neta should they go to? With hope that those neta will not become corrupt in six hours after coming into power? Consider classic case of wife beating hubbies. Wife stays not because of any emotional attachment, but she fears that outside world is more ruthless than hubby, and so she puts up. Most anti-congress activists only want to replace corrupt leaders of congress by corrupt leaders of other parties. Very few like myself are interested in reducing corruption, and for same reason we dont become even well publicized in media (eg IE refuses to give my paid-ad on first page, and ToI refuses to give my paid-ad altogether !!). All in all, if citizen-voters are voting for corrupt Congress neta and not voting for corrupt non-congress neta, they are not doing anything unwise.

pramodkumarca · Post by **pramodkumarca** » 11 Dec 2010 18:20

i do not understand why people oppose Telangana - all United Ap advocate help me to gain knowledge

1.the Telangana Reason was never part of andhra reason and it has to join based on a agreement which is never kept
2.the Telangana is in the Election manifest of all Major parties (INC TDP ...so on) - at that time they should have checked for consensus which are now taking about it
3.their is clear no explanation why Telangana should not be given - but the united Ap advocates are only from other part of Andhra and Telangana region is united on it desire to get separated
4. United AP advocates have not alternative solutions for this problem

the list is not exhaustive but only illustrative

milindc · Post by **milindc** » 12 Dec 2010 05:22

pramodkumarca wrote:i do not understand why people oppose Telangana - all United Ap advocate help me to gain knowledge

1.the Telangana Reason was never part of andhra reason and it has to join based on a agreement which is never kept
2.the Telangana is in the Election manifest of all Major parties (INC TDP ...so on) - at that time they should have checked for consensus which are now taking about it
3.their is clear no explanation why Telangana should not be given - but the united Ap advocates are only from other part of Andhra and Telangana region is united on it desire to get separated
4. United AP advocates have not alternative solutions for this problem

the list is not exhaustive but only illustrative

And Hyderabad Reason

was never part of Telangana.. It needs to be separate as well

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 12 Dec 2010 14:19

I wonder these people know what they are saying when they speak about history. Does Kakathiya kings are also not part of telengana history. If yes whey they called themsevels andradeshadhisha etc. let us not forget before islamic rule took root in AP area there was no telangana or andra. entire area was andhra only. the word telangana if self persian word. if the telugu people do not want to call their place in telugu word and want to use persian word fine no probelm but let us not talk about never being part of andra. The water tank in Nellore Town was constructed by Pratapa Rudradeva of Kakathiya kingdom for example

ShivaS · Post by **ShivaS** » 12 Dec 2010 18:59

follow carefully the Vishnu Sahasranamam,
It talks of chanurAndhranishudhan as vishnus title

So Andhras were there before Telengana?

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 12 Dec 2010 21:48

pramodkumarca wrote:i do not understand why people oppose Telangana

Because they oppose Dhimmitude. Get out of your Dhimmitude and you will see the answer for yourself, you dont need other's guidence.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 12 Dec 2010 21:59

A few idiots think otherwise doesn't change history.

Andhra core historically was Trilinga Desam (Kaleswaram in Karimnagar dist., Drasksharamam in East Godavari dist., Srisailam in Kurnool dist). Most of kingdoms are part of the core area with a few exceptions.

Telugu itself is a corruption of Trlinga (Trlinga -> Telinga -> Telangu -> Telugu).

Unless there is proof that after Nizam ceded rest of Telugu areas, they went and killed all people in the rest of Telugu area and replaced by strange creatures, Telangana is different doesn't hold water historically.

Only difference is one region was in Nizam rule and another region was in British rule for 100 years. After independence, Telugu part was merged with rest of Telugu areas that Nizam ceded to British/French.

We eat Ragi, they eat Rice. We eat Natu kodi (country chicken), they eat Pappu (dal). We celebrate Bonalu, they celebrate Dasara. Such arguments that they spit out are

only.