Mumbai Terrorist Attack-News stories and timeline

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 03 Dec 2010 15:52

SSji, his role in the attacks will be detailed in the press soon. Its been kept quiet for all this time. This Al Hooti guy was AS CRUCIAL in the cogs as Headley's. Hopefully the article will provide more details of exactly how and what he was involved in, which has so far been kept under the carpet.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 03 Dec 2010 15:58

i think there are atleast these many roles

1. strategic commander
2. ideological leader and motivator
3. tactical/operational commander
4. intel and security commander
5. mission planner
6. logistics planner
7. recon lead
8. recon foot soldier
9. tactical leader
10. cannon fodder
11. comms handler
12. mission surveillance
13. political liaison

and more...

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 03 Dec 2010 21:24

WTF? DOnt be surprised if kasab walks freely accross the border

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/anniv ... 101203.htm

Denying his role in the 26/11 attacks at the Chhatrapati Shivaji Railway Terminus, Pakistani terrorist Ajmal Kasab [ Images ] on Friday told the Bombay high court that police had cooked up a story to falsely implicate him in the crime

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Dec 2010 21:28

Raja Ram wrote:the above report on leak shows and reiterates two things

(i) the control of strategic assets has no civilian oversight or role at all, Kayani himself admits that he orders missile launches, testing etc. So zardari/gilani have no role in pressing the button

(ii) the paronia/taquia that afflicts the top echelons of Paki military - see how easily Kayani believes that Pranab called and threatened Zardari - either he is paranoid or he is doing his taquia to the US - in both cases he is living upto BR expectations

Like a frontier bandit Kiyani thinks missile tests are like firing a 12 bore shotgun in the air.
India tests missiles to confrim technology and provide reliability data unlike TSP firings which are like blanks in the air to assure itself, that its mizzles are not sausages.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 03 Dec 2010 21:30

as someone on BRF once said, its great that TSP tests missiles
every test means one less in the arsenal

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 03 Dec 2010 22:19

Folks, the article about hooti and several players from abroad who were involved has been released.
Global 26/11 terrorists India wants. Rediff news. Can someone please post it?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Dec 2010 22:29

ReDiff article referred to above

Global Terrorists India wants for 26/11

Maram · Post by **Maram** » 03 Dec 2010 22:36

Lalmohan wrote:as someone on BRF once said, its great that TSP tests missiles
every test means one less in the arsenal

This is most plausible theory we can deduce based on open source information.TSP is the only country which has advanced missles with no satellite launch capability. Kinda dead give away that. either mango abduls are 400% more brainier than every one else or....(no need to complete this sentence.. everyone knows what it is...)

Rangudu · Post by **Rangudu** » 03 Dec 2010 22:41

Raja Ram,

The fake Pranab phone call was clearly done with Kayani's knowledge. Only the ISI has the ability to access and manipulate the President's switchboard.

As two senior American policy makers noted in Bob Woodward's book - Kayani is a liar.

Maram · Post by **Maram** » 03 Dec 2010 22:47

Rangudu wrote:Raja Ram,

The fake Pranab phone call was clearly done with Kayani's knowledge. Only the ISI has the ability to access and manipulate the President's switchboard.

As two senior American policy makers noted in Bob Woodward's book - Kayani is a liar.

Rangudu sir,

why only kiyanahi... everyone in the TSPA/RAPE are liars and two faced as David Cameron so correctly said on his visit to India earlier this year.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 03 Dec 2010 22:52

today's wikileaks has HSS Kiyani reported to have told unkil that he's all in favour of back-passage contact with yindoos, but zardie was not... so there is nothing he can do...

now really?!

Rangudu · Post by **Rangudu** » 03 Dec 2010 22:55

Lalmohan wrote:today's wikileaks has HSS Kiyani reported to have told unkil that he's all in favour of back-passage contact with yindoos, but zardie was not... so there is nothing he can do...

Bullshit. Kayani is the one who blocked the talks. He is just a liar's liar.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 03 Dec 2010 23:02

^^^that, or the wikileaks are randomly generated by fratboys drinking sam adams in a dark basement somewhere, with regular supplies of pizza and 15 min p@rn breaks

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Dec 2010 23:11

CT:

Wikileaks is to destroy SD crediblity by the leakers.

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shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 04 Dec 2010 02:59

ramana wrote:ReDiff article referred to above

Global Terrorists India wants for 26/11

Main problem appears to be legal issues for Al Hooti as he is already convicted in Oman. India is still trying for access and working out modalities, the main barrier is legal issues. Its going to be too difficult to extradite him.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 04 Dec 2010 03:00

For starters do they give access to NIA?

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 04 Dec 2010 03:16

Looks like they are still talking about how to go about it. To be honest, this has been going on for a while now(since July). Oman gave telephone records, financial details, interrogation reports and other evidence etc. They infact worked together according to Home ministry who went on record to describe it as a "model partnership for other global agencies".

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 04 Dec 2010 12:24

http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_m ... ts_1476255

Two days after Spain’s police made public the arrest of eight persons with links to radical outfits in Pakistan and the 26/11 Mumbai terror attack, they have backtracked on their claim.

The Mumbai police, too, have expressed doubts over their statement.

There is little possibility of the fake documents and identity cards seized from the terrorists being prepared in Spain, sources in the Mumbai police said. The quality of the cards is poor.

It indicates that these have been made by someone who does not know the English language. Also, their physical condition is such that they must have been prepared in a hurry and on very ordinary computers, they said.

“I-cards were seized from all the 10 terrorists (involved in the 26/11 attack), including Ajmal Kasab, and a look at them gives a clear indication that the cards were duplicate. They had the name of a Bangalore-based college. The I-card recovered from Kasab had his name as Sameer Chaudhary, while his father’s name was mentioned as Dinaish Choudhry. You can clearly see the spelling mistakes in the surname,” a police officer pointed out.
Interestingly, there has been no communication from the authorities in Spain.

“Looking at the seriousness of the issue, we were expecting some communication, but the ministry of external affairs has yet not received any correspondence ,” the officer said.

Meanwhile, in a communication to the CBI through the Interpol, the Spanish authorities have now claimed that investigations so far do not indicate links of the arrested persons with the Mumbai attack. They have, however, maintained that they eight belong to the Lashkar-e-Taiba and had handlers based in Pakistan.

The Indian government had earlier sought details of the accused from the Spanish government shortly after the arrest of the accused on Wednesday. The Spanish police, in their earlier statement, had also claimed that the gang was also supplying documents to erstwhile Sri Lankan terrorist group Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE). The module was led by a Pakistani citizen living in Thailand. He directed the cells in Europe which decided the features of the passports.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Dec 2010 07:24

Pakistan judicial panel may be allowed to visit India
Excerpts

The government may allow a Judicial Commission from Pakistan to record and verify the statements of judicial and investigating officers who had recorded the confessional statement of Ajmal Kasab, the lone surviving gunman of the Mumbai terror attacks.

The government had written to the Bombay High Court seeking its opinion on this aspect. The reply is expected early this week. Officials said the government would then inform Pakistan of its decision.

The panel consists of prosecution and defence lawyers involved in the case against Pakistan-based conspirators of the Mumbai attacks. The two-lawyer commission will be accompanied by a coordinating officer.

India is willing to allow the lawyers to talk to the then Additional Chief Metropolitan Magistrate and the Chief Investigating Officer of the Mumbai attacks case and not Kasab. It is not clear whether the commission will also speak to doctors who performed the post-mortem on the nine gunmen killed by Indian security forces.

On Saturday, the public prosecutor at the Rawalpindi Anti-Terrorism Court said he had received indications of India agreeing to the request.

India sought clarifications on the law under which the commission will be set up and its composition, nature and scope. It was also made clear that no cross-examination would take place.

The Centre sought the Bombay High Court's counsel after Pakistan conveyed that the Judicial Commission has been asked not to cross-examine the prosecution witnesses.

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 07 Dec 2010 02:32

Wall Street Journal's story today talks about Pakistan has not done a single thing for justice ...
Mumbai-Attack 'Handlers' Identified

Mr. Pillai said in an interview that Mr. Headley was able to identify three out of four Pakistan-based "handlers" for the attacks in those recordings. Mr. Headley told investigators he personally had two handlers, one from the militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba, which India believes carried out the attacks, and one from Pakistan's spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence.

Mr. Pillai said information from Mr. Headley's interrogation in early June and other evidence was submitted to Pakistan this summer to further the country's prosecution of those responsible for the deadly rampage in Mumbai, in which 10 gunmen killed more than 160 people at some of the city's top tourist spots and hotels. But Pakistan is making "no progress" despite India's leads, Mr. Pillai said.

"I don't think they're going to do anything about it," Mr. Pillai said, adding that he believes that Pakistan's moves so far to advance the case are a "facade" and that it isn't pursuing the people in the "control room" who orchestrated the attacks. He said Pakistan is wary of cracking down on top militants, for fear they will "sing" and implicate Pakistani government officials in the attacks. "They just can't do it," he said.

...Abdul Basit, a [shameless] spokesman for Pakistan's foreign ministry, said India this summer gave Pakistan the names of six Pakistani nationals, including two people believed to be serving or former military officers, who Mr. Headley said were involved in the Mumbai attacks. But he said Pakistan has been unable to identify these people, whom Mr. Headley likely knew by pseudonyms.

Pakistan has strongly denied having any role in the Mumbai attacks. It has charged seven people in its Mumbai investigation, including Lashkar-e-Taiba members, but their trials haven't started. Indian officials have been frustrated at what they see as stalling tactics, a major reason attempted peace talks between the nuclear-armed rivals haven't got off the ground this year....
<snip>.

Hindustan Times has the story too..
Pak action on Mumbai terror a facade

In an interview published in the Wall Street Journal, Pillai said David Headley, who pleaded guilty to surveying the hotels, had identified the voice of key conspirators from Indian intelligence intercepts and the information had been passed on to the Pakistani authorities....<and pakis are being pakis..>.

sum · Post by **sum** » 07 Dec 2010 08:48

Al this talk about knowing Pakis wont do anything is fine but what does GoI plan to do to force the Paki hand if they openly defy India and refuse even a fig-leaf?

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 07 Dec 2010 08:59

sum wrote:Al this talk about knowing Pakis wont do anything is fine but what does GoI plan to do to force the Paki hand if they openly defy India and refuse even a fig-leaf?

I don't know what GoI plans to do. But America is protecting Pakistan. Pakistan will fall when America falls. Unelss there is some drastic change of mind in the US. I don;t see that happening and I don't see how GoI can do anything to change the mind of the US establishment on Pakistan.

In short, no near term hope.

Sridhar K · Post by **Sridhar K** » 07 Dec 2010 09:01

sum
Per PC, diplomacy and if it fails, more diplomacy.

Raja Ram · Post by **Raja Ram** » 07 Dec 2010 09:20

shiv wrote:
sum wrote:Al this talk about knowing Pakis wont do anything is fine but what does GoI plan to do to force the Paki hand if they openly defy India and refuse even a fig-leaf?

I don't know what GoI plans to do. But America is protecting Pakistan. Pakistan will fall when America falls. Unelss there is some drastic change of mind in the US. I don;t see that happening and I don't see how GoI can do anything to change the mind of the US establishment on Pakistan.In short, no near term hope.

shiv,

That (bolded part above) is where I have always differed with you. My contention is that

(i) Pakistan can fall even if the US does not fall and despite US support.
(ii) Conversly given the other two benefactors in China and Saudis, it can survive even if America falls -sounds contradictory to (i) but is also true.
(iii) Further, it is not necessary for the GOI to do nothing and only try convincing the Americans about the futulity of maintaining this artificial state and asking them to withdraw their support.

That will be too costly for India. It is inevitable and imperative therefore that Pakistan should cease to exist. The sooner it happens the better.

Anyway OT for this thread. So shall stop here.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 07 Dec 2010 09:53

shiv wrote:But America is protecting Pakistan.

This is true beyond doubt but I am not sure if we have broken down this further than this.

- Who in America sustains this policy that is inherited from British (assuming that British's strategy was to re-enter the region)
- What is the source of American insecurity (or of their movers/shakers) vis-a-vis India (it is not even a doubt that India is the target of American perfidy)

once we understand this, we can say with certainty if America will fall first or Paksitan.

atma · Post by **atma** » 08 Dec 2010 05:11

X- post from TSP thread.

Sarkozy slams Pakistan as he marks Mumbai attacks

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101207/wl ... 1207151850

The Gauls have tasted and countered islamic terrorism, long before Khan got a taste for it. Hopefully something good cooperation will emerge during this visit.

atma · Post by **atma** » 08 Dec 2010 05:18

sum wrote:
Al this talk about knowing Pakis wont do anything is fine but what does GoI plan to do to force the Paki hand if they openly defy India and refuse even a fig-leaf?

I don't know what GoI plans to do. But America is protecting Pakistan. Pakistan will fall when America falls. Unelss there is some drastic change of mind in the US. I don;t see that happening and I don't see how GoI can do anything to change the mind of the US establishment on Pakistan.

In short, no near term hope.

I believe, and am seeing signs of it in Khanland of a popular understanding and resentment against TSP. The drastic change may be happening, albeit slowly. I forsee Khan cutting off the gangrenous finger/appendage called TSP.

Rupesh · Post by **Rupesh** » 11 Dec 2010 06:59

Two hours before 26/11 attacks, Hemant Karkare called me to say his life under threat: Digvijay Singh

IE Indulging in propagandu

In a startling revelation days after the second anniversary of the Mumbai terror attacks, Congress general secretary Digvijay Singh has said that two hours before the first terrorists struck that evening, chief of the Maharashtra ATS Hemant Karkare called him to say that his life was “blighted by constant threats” from those opposed to his probe into the Malegaon blast in which Hindu extremists were accused.

On December 6, Singh had shared these revelations with the audience at a function to launch RSS ki saazish — 26/11? (26/11, an RSS conspiracy?) authored by Aziz Burney, editor-in-chief of Urdu Sahara newspaper.

Present at the function were Deputy Chairman of the Rajya Sabha K Rahman Khan and three MLAs from Delhi, Shoaib Iqbal, Chaudhry Mateen and Asif Mohammed Khan. Also present were leading lights from the clergy Maulana Mahmood Madani from the Deobandi sect, Maulana Touqir Raza Khan from the Barelvi sect and Shia leader Kalbe Jawwad.

The moderator was noted Akhtar-ul Wasey, director of the Zakir Husain Institute of Islamic Studies at Jamia Millia University.

arun · Post by **arun** » 11 Dec 2010 07:33

The Vote Bank politics indulged in by the Congress Party with regard to the 26/11 Islamic Terrorist attack on Mumbai has not gone unnoticed by the US.

shravan wrote:US embassy cables: Mumbai conspiracy allegations 'outrageous' – US ambassador

CONGRESS PARTY STUNG PLAYING RELIGIOUS POLITICS

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 11 Dec 2010 10:15

Congress should make its official position clear on the statements of its general secretary

Either Digivijay singh apologizes for this openly mouthing of paki propaganda or is officially removed from his post and membership of congress party

Failure to do so will be constituted as silent support of congress party to terrorists and inevitably lead to treatment of all congress party workers as terrorists at the hands of public

Time for congress party to think whether it wants to support terrorists and die with them

Rupesh wrote:Two hours before 26/11 attacks, Hemant Karkare called me to say his life under threat: Digvijay Singh

In a startling revelation days after the second anniversary of the Mumbai terror attacks, Congress general secretary Digvijay Singh has said that two hours before the first terrorists struck that evening, chief of the Maharashtra ATS Hemant Karkare called him to say that his life was “blighted by constant threats” from those opposed to his probe into the Malegaon blast in which Hindu extremists were accused.

On December 6, Singh had shared these revelations with the audience at a function to launch RSS ki saazish — 26/11? (26/11, an RSS conspiracy?) authored by Aziz Burney, editor-in-chief of Urdu Sahara newspaper.

Present at the function were Deputy Chairman of the Rajya Sabha K Rahman Khan and three MLAs from Delhi, Shoaib Iqbal, Chaudhry Mateen and Asif Mohammed Khan. Also present were leading lights from the clergy Maulana Mahmood Madani from the Deobandi sect, Maulana Touqir Raza Khan from the Barelvi sect and Shia leader Kalbe Jawwad.

The moderator was noted Akhtar-ul Wasey, director of the Zakir Husain Institute of Islamic Studies at Jamia Millia University.

negi · Post by **negi** » 11 Dec 2010 11:02

Hindi shabkosh has an apt word for him i.e. 'm@darchod' , btw he released Aziz Burney's (another one) book 'An RSS Conspiracy in 26/11'. Politics over 26/11 can happen only in India.

Sumeet · Post by **Sumeet** » 11 Dec 2010 12:32

I just hope Mrs. Karkare shoots down all these foolish statements coming from Congress.

In fact recent wiki leak carries this statement:

Congress Playing Religious Politics

The entire episode demonstrates that the Congress Party will readily stoop to the old caste/religious-based politics if it feels it is in its interest. End Summary.

See the link for more detail.

Here I am glad that NDTV has highlighted that section of leak by yellow mark.

WikiLeaks: Congress can stoop to old caste politics, says ex-US Ambassador to India

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 11 Dec 2010 12:47

Raghavendra wrote:Congress should make its official position clear on the statements of its general secretary

Why? Is their position not clear?

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 11 Dec 2010 13:17

Digvijay is Rahul baba's political manager. So this must be a new strategy to muddy the waters from Gandhi family.

archan · Post by **archan** » 11 Dec 2010 14:45

It should not be difficult to prove. If Karkare used his home, office or cell phone number to call Digvijay sahib, it must be on record with the phone company. In the same way, Mr. Singh's phone records can also be looked up for any calls received from Mumbai on 24/11. DS sucked the juice out of MP when her was the CM for two consecutive terms by giving out free electricity etc. to his vote bank and when the public finally had enough of him they threw him out and ever since he has been trying to fit into the center, to make himself "useful" to the Hon. Rajmata and Rajbaba.

arun · Post by **arun** » 11 Dec 2010 14:48

Sumeet wrote:I just hope Mrs. Karkare shoots down all these foolish statements coming from Congress.

She has. Mrs. Kavita Karkare, widow of Maharashtra Anti-Terrorist Squad (ATS) chief Hemant Karkare who was killed on 26/11 by Islamic Terrorists backed by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, is totally dismissive of Digvijay Singh’s claims and alludes the motive of “vote bank politics” to Digvijays comments.

NDTV:

Digvijaya's statement will benefit Pakistan: Kavita Karkare

More on Mrs. Karkare's comments on the antics of Digvijay Singh from IANS via Sify:

Karkare's widow slams Digvijay's comment

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 11 Dec 2010 16:03

That some parties would go to any extent to garner Muslim votes is getting conclusively proved in Digvijay Singh's foolish utterances. That other countries are also beginning to understand this ulterior game makes this whole episode very shameful. I am sure patriotic Muslims of this nation see what this is worth for. To add to scam after scams with the ruling party maintaining a stoic defence of the culprits, we now have this extremely revulsive statement from the senior member of the ruling party.

arun · Post by **arun** » 11 Dec 2010 16:41

Digvijay Singh back pedals on his Muslim vote bank garnering claim:

"I have never said that Hindu terrorists were involved in killing Hemant Karkare. As of now, evidence suggests that he was killed by Pakistani terrorists,"

NDTV:

Never said Hindu terrorists involved in killing Hemant Karkare

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 11 Dec 2010 17:05

Digvijay Singh is tying himself into knots here. What is this business of 'as of now evidence suggests . . .'. He is doing total disservice to the brave police by depicting them in bad light and is also doing total service to anti-India forces especially Pakistani terrorists and conspiracy theorists. The earlier the INC gets rid of him, the better. As a former Judge has rightly said, Digvijay Singh must implead himself in the Kasab case and explain the telephone conversation he claims to have had with Shri Karkare and any other material he may have. As poll prospects become dimmer, we can expect to see such nonsense from politicians like Digvijay Singh and his comrades.