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Uncle Sam would love this nephew-- Rahul Gandhi

“(Rahul) Gandhi… could become a key interlocutor… as we pursue a strategic dialogue with India.”

Patronage as a U.S. force multiplier
From scholarships and training programmes for officers to promises of Green Cards and jobs for family members, America is doing whatever it takes to build a lobby for itself in India.
U.S. tried to put the screws on India over Iran
The U.S. had pressured India in a variety of ways in an attempt to persuade it to downgrade its ties with Iran, according to several confidential cables from the New Delhi American Mission leaked by WikiLeaks on Friday.
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ULFA status check:

Meanwhile, some points I gleaned from the Press statements and a close re-examination of the past one year of reports:
1) MHA under P. Chidambaram, Ajay Maken and G.K. Pillai has NOT been keen on letting the ULFA bigwigs go on bail. For this, the precedent has been from January 1992 when the first round of preliminary talks with a five-member ULFA delegation comprising 'general secretary' Anup Chetia and 'central committee' members Robin Neog, Kamal Bora, Siddhartha Phukan and Sabhan Saikia was held with then prime minister P.V. Narasimha Rao in New Delhi. All the five leaders were granted safe passage to attend the meeting and then allowed to leave to convince their other top leaders for the peace talks. But the delegation led by Anup Chetia jumped parole never to return. It has only been the push of CM Tarun Gogoi that has made PC reconsider his position. So if things go awry, you know who to blame.
2) What goes on from now onwards is going to be/will be determined by the ULFA Central Committee. There are/were 15 (16 by some accounts and Ramu Mech retired) Central Committee Members: 1) Arabinda Rajkhowa, 2) Pradeep Gogoi, 3) Sashadhar Choudhury, 4) Chitrabon Hazarika, 5) Bhimkanta Buragohain, 6) Mithinga Daimary, 7) Pranati Deka, 8 ) Raju Barua. Most of these 8 form the Political Wing of ULFA, in contrast to the Military Wing. All of them have been/will be released on bail, and the process is ongoing as I write.
3) Of the 7 remaining, Anup Chetia is in jail in BD, while Poresh Borua and Jiban Moran complete the "living" 11. Three ULFA central committee members (Ashanta Bagh Phukan, Robin Neog and Benning Rabha) have remained untraceable since the crackdown against the insurgent outfit by the Royal Bhutan Army in 2003, while another member, Robin Handique, passed away due to kidney failure in August 2005.
4) Of the Military Wing, the most potent folks that remain outside are the five top commanders of Borua: 1) Bijoy Chinese (a) Bijoy Das, 2) Jiban Moran, 3) Drishti Rajkhowa (a) Mohan Rabha, 4) Subal Mahanta, 5) Hira Sarania. Others of interest include Nayan Medhi, Pranjal Saikia, Ujjal Gohain, Dibakar Moran. Paresh Barua is believed to be in China, while, Antu Chowdang and Drishti Rajkhowa are in Bangladesh. Hira Sarania moves between Bangladesh and India and Jiban Moran is in Myanmar.
5) Some info on the various battalions:
a) 28th Battalion is Burma-based and hence operates in Upper Assam. Two out of three companies of the 28th battalion have announced unilateral ceasefire with Mrinal Hazarika, a former commander and 14 other leaders of Charlie and Alpha companies, coming out on June 24, 2008. The Bravo Company commander is Sujit Moran (said to be in not much control these days) and overall commander of the 28th battalion is Bijoy Chinese.
b) 27th Battalion: Centered out of the hilly southern district of Karbi Anglong. Mridul Kalita, the commander in charge of the 27th battalion was killed in March 2010 near Udalgiri. Another top commander is Nayan Medhi.
c) 709th Battalion: Based out of districts such as Nalbari, Baksa, Chirang and Kamrup, that share a border with Bhutan. Commanded by Hira Sarania. It is believed that Sarania is closer to Rajkhowa than Borua.
d) 109th Battalion: Active in lower Assam districts, particularly in Goalpara and Kamrup. Top commanders of this battalion include Drishti Rajkhowa, Gulit Das and Pradeep Basumatary. SATP had this to say on Sept 27, 2010: "Meanwhile, sources said that the Bangladesh Government has in its custody senior ULFA leader Drishti Rajkhowa who happens to be a close ally of the outfit’s ‘commander-in-chief’ Paresh Barua. Government sources indicate that Dristi Rajkhowa could be handed over to India any day now," but this has not happened so far (to the best of my knowledge).
6) While Op All Clear is clearly noted as the operation responsible for breaking the back-bone of ULFA, it was the loss of turf due to activation of the COIN grid in Arunachal Pradesh and the subsequent clashes with NSCN(IM) that further liquidated their terrain that was clearly responsible for the coming out of the Alpha and Charlie companies of the 28th battalion.
7) There have been three terrains where ULFA had taken sustenance: Bhutan, Bangladesh and Burma. While Bhutan seems to have cleansed up, there has been some regrouping in the Lower Assam districts with proximity to Bhutan. Bangladesh is a sordid tale of much delayedness. There is no reason to hope that things would be wiped clean very quickly, it is a slow lethargic process, provided BAL returns to power again. The case of Burma is a hopeless one. There had been some activity that a joint Indo-Burma action would happen in the Kachin State that borders Arunachal Pr. and Upper Assam. More than 15 terrorist groups have taken umbrage in either the Kachin State or the Sagaing Division. But the clincher is the unofficial "Wa State" (bordering China where the Kokang incident happened) with connections to the drug trade of the famed Golden Triangle that acts as a mediator to second-hand arms trade from China as well as unofficial umbrage. Kachin State is primarily a lurking area and United Wa State Army (UWSA), which is the biggest anti-junta grouping in Burma holds the key to liquidating ULFA, along with Kachin Independence Army (KIA). Plus, there are cross-border tribal affinities between the Konyak Nagas dominated by NSCN(K) and the Tangkhul Nagas represented by NSCN(IM). While the relationship between NSCN and ULFA seems to have been strained, both groups continue to use each other's resources as needed.
8 ) There have been an across-the-board connection to ISI(D) and the Maoists. In fact, there have been enough news reports of Poresh Borua meeting Musharaff with the meeting arranged by Begum Khaleda Zia's government, meeting Koteswara Rao (a) Kishen, seen in Yunnan, using his Bangladeshi passport to get a Chinese visa stamp under the name Kamruj Zaman Khan, etc. In fact, the former Minister Lutfozzaman Babar is in jail in the 10 truck arms haul case. While the DGFI and NSI have been implicated in the hearings, there have been enough rumours that Tareque Rahman (the elder son of BKZ) played a major role in this shipment. As of now, Tareque is in London on a medical parole on a graft charge in BD. BKZ's other son Arafat Rahman Coco is absconding in Thailand, also on a medical parole. Both were released by the Caretaker government of 1/11.
9) The "People's Consultative Group" or SJA and its leader, Lachit Bordoloi, are utterly compromised. They are open-fronts of ULFA and have been seen as such by those who matter in this complex saga. They used to operate earlier under the moniker MASS.
10) And finally, there have been precedents as to why a peace deal struck with only a select few is a bad proposition. Shillong Accord is number one in this long-unending set of Exhibits. Somehow, CM Gogoi has been itching to make some progress on peace talks (with electoral motives in the back of his mind perhaps!), hence the hurry. Even if peace is struck with the Central Committee Members out now, Poresh Borua has an extensive matrix of connections to the worldwide Islamist movement and there is no reason to hope that others (BD, Pakistan or China) will want sanity to prevail in Assam. Plus, ULFA is not even a globally representative body of Assamese opinion, especially with the Bodos and Dimasas claiming their own bodies that are in different stages of truce with GoI. Even otherwise, ULFA is a compromised entity in Assamese opinion, especially with its loosening on the critical illegal immigration issue from BD and its extensive victim profile that includes children and women. As one well-informed commentator gave 2018 for a new separatist movement in Assam, I do not have great hopes for any self-sustaining peace, for which the prime exhibit would be Mizoram.

Let the Games begin!
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New twist in Sarabjit Singh case
In a new twist in the Sarabjit Singh case, an alleged fraudster, who the family of the Indian prisoner claimed had carried out the 1990 Lahore [ Images ] bomb blasts, has been arrested in a cheating case.
Manjit Singh Rattu, arrested by police in Chandigarh on Thursday and remanded to two days police custody by a local court in a cheque dishonour case, on Friday denied any role in the blasts for which Sarabjit had been sentenced to death in Pakistan.Sarabjit's family had claimed that he was a victim of mistaken identity as he resembled Rattu who, they alleged, carried out the bomb attack."I am a victim of conspiracy...I have no role in Pakistan blasts," Rattu told reporters outside the court. "I do not have anything or any role in Lahore or any other blast."However, police maintained that they are not yet probing the claims of Sarabjit's family."We are not probing that angle. Our complaint is related to a cheating case," Superintendent of Police Manish Chaudhury said.
Meanwhile, as the accused was produced in the court, a lawyer Arvind Thakur today submitted before it that Rattu was 'involved in the 1990 blasts for which Sarabjit Singh of Bhikhiwind village in Amritsar [ Images ] was facing death sentence in Pakistan'.[/b]Police sought Rattu's custody to recover ten mobiles, which was granted by the court.Asked about the claim of Dalbir Kaur, sister of Sarabjit, that he was the person involved in the Pakistan blasts, Rattu told reporters that "she is telling a lie".Recently, Awais Sheikh, lawyer of Sarabjit in Pakistan, had said that he had filed a fresh mercy petition as it was mistaken identity and the real culprit behind the crime was Manjit Singh Rattu.The lawyer had said he has also written to the Chief Justice of Pakistan in pursuit of reopening of the two-decade-old case and had gathered fresh evidence of Rattu's involvement in the Lahore blasts."Manjeet was a fraud and had also been arrested by the Canadian police and kept in jail for three years. I have collected evidence on Manjeet's presence in Pakistan at the time of the blasts and a photo of his marriage with a Pakistani woman," Sheikh had said.
http://www.rediff.com/news/report/new-t ... 101217.htm
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Raghavendra wrote:Every Keralite living in and around kannur must own atleast 1 gun to protect his family since communists and congress party wont protect him.
As the saying goes "God helps, those who help themselves". To put it quite bluntly folks in Kerala are yet to realise the true facts of Islamic terrorism. You see there are at least 2-3 generations of people (and they are now out there in every government organisation, media, education etc. etc.) who have been fed on communism. For these folks with a myopic vision, the only problem is organisations like RSS and BJP. They still have not realised when the commies are having a good round of boxing with RSs and BJP, the folks who silently carry out their work are the Islamic terrorists.

Secondly arming every one with a rifle or a pistol would not yeild any positive results. People first should be trained to use it, and should have the mental courage to use the weapon efficiently. Or else, it would be easier for the criminals as they can use the weapons from the common citizens and use it against them.
brihaspati wrote:if the major IM kingpins are from Kerala, then there is a severe problem of justification
There are some ridiculous attempts for justification. The popular one is that Keralite Muslims were so disilluisoned after the Babri Masjid demolition that they decided to implement Jehad in Kerala. Previous religious riots of 1921 etc. had already been white washed as freedom struggle by the eminent :roll: communist/marxist historians. Next in line naturally would be the Gujarath riots. Where as in Gujarath things have already got settled down and the state is on a prosperous path, you have bleeding hearts in Kerala who still feel that jehad is the only way out. And of course you have the Keralite politicians who support these ridiculous claims in order to get minority votes in Kerala.
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Kerala madrasas ahead of north counterparts: Study

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Keral ... udy/726850
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I am going to post what I wrote somewhere else:
There are three post-Independence themes floating in Indian discourse, which I disagree with:

i) The insurgents are "OUR Boys", come what may. Estranged they may be, but we have to bring them to the main stream "softly" without hurting the prospects of peace. This can be seen in as different a setting as with the former Tamil Nadu CM, M.G. Ramachandran, talking to the Foreign Secretary with regards to LTTE or with the current Assam CM, Tarun Gogoi, talking to his supporters with regards to ULFA. For that matter, even the strange way with which the GoI/PMO handles Pakistan (an estranged cousin of India, so goes the plausible theoretical justification!) mirrors this sentiment. Indians love a bit of drama, both in life as well as discourse. And it should not be entirely surprising if we see yet another B/K/T/Gollywood hit on the dramatic happenstances around two estranged families/parties/villages. Where the Indian political discourse comes short on such a B/K/T/Gollywood drama is in the logical sequence that is often needed to win eternal peace, and many times that eternal peace can only be won by taking to completion the liquidation of one party to the dispute. In India, while democracy and recurring elections have brought endless hope to the teeming masses, it has also created a detriment by putting unavoidable short-term focus on ending disputes quickly. To borrow a cricketing cliche, the Indian political climate has forced the politicians to grab a draw without putting the efforts necessary to win a Test. The concomitant sobering effect is the pause on reactionary violence that is necessary to settle disputes.

ii) Yet another myth floating around is that certain regions of India share more cross-border affinities than affinities with other regions of India. This is certainly true as can be seen in the regional/vernacular discourse in Tamil Nadu/Sri Lanka, Punjab/Pakistan, West Bengal/Bangladesh, Sikkim/Bhutan, Gorkhaland/Nepal, Nagaland/Burma, and so on. While there is a certain logical argument to such cross-border affinities, the unmistakable reality is that post-Independence India and post-1947 non-Indian territories have evolved quite differently (and dramatically), and the situation on the ground is that different regions of India and their affiliated cross-border territories are in different stages of development/identity recognition/self-perception. For example, someone in Tamil Nadu might share the same language, food and/or culture with someone across the Palk Straits, but these affinities do not envelop political discourse or medium for distress-relief. Media for pressure release such as elections or the lack thereof, participation in national debate(s) of the economic/political/identity variety or its lack thereof, intra-party squabbles or lack thereof, etc., have also evolved differently. It can be (and is often) argued that sixty years is too short a time-period in human annals to erase these affinities, but such arguments fail to stand in the wake of exponentially (and needless to say, catastrophically) multiplying knowledge of self-perception and identity development, aided by even more exponentially growing advances in science and technology. The central point behind bringing this theme to the fore-front is that dispute settling (especially of the insurgent type) seems to take a local/regional perspective mirroring the mistaken belief of cross-border affinities rather than a national perspective of what such precedents could mean on an all-India scale, given the multitude of insurgencies/mutinies within India.

iii) The net effect of both the above themes is the logical conclusion that "Crime Pays, and Pays Really Well." While punishment cannot be a logical solution to any crime, even the deterring effect of a corresponding punishment for a certain crime has been mitigated by unofficial pardons/blanket amnesty schemes for the sake of overall peace. The victims of such crimes hardly ever get consulted in such blanket amnesties, championed by tall visionaries and regional behemoths. With India practicing democracy and taking immense pride in this aspect, it is certainly confusing as to why there is a complete anathema to debating such blanket amnesties in the form of a regional/local referendum. Referendums are not completely new to India either, Sylhet joined what was then East Pakistan based on the results of a referendum, while Junagadh's accession to India was confirmed via a referendum. A confusing belief that the Indian political class holds is that a popular vote in a General Elections gives them an overarching freedom to parley on behalf of the people on all subjects under the sky. While there may be a certain degree of freedom-vs-responsibility coloring to such an argument, new realities (especially of the insurgent variety) would be better handled with popular opinion rather than be left to the visions of visionaries, lest they be seen as an overindulgence, or worse capriciousness.
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http://www.dailymirror.lk/news/8490-d-a ... links.html
Mumbai's Anti Terrorism Squad (ATS) is questioning a key member of Dawood Ibrahim gang (a top Indian underworld leader) for alleged links with the banned outfit LTTE to supply arms for terror activities in India.

It has sought a fresh remand for top lieutenant Mirza Mohiddin Baig, currently under Crime Branch's custody, to question him in connection with terror links in the country.

Mirza Mohiddin Baig was arrested in Colombo last year. The ATS is questioning a key member of Dawood Ibrahim gang (D-Company) for alleged links with the banned outfit Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) to supply arms for terror activities in India.

Additional Director General of Police, Rakesh Maria, has confirmed to MiD DAY that Baig is being interrogated for terror links in India. He refused to give further details.

Baig, who was on the Interpol's wanted list, had been arrested in Colombo on May 8, 2009, after a long stint in Sri Lanka, and deported to India. The police had recovered three pistols and 18 live rounds from him.
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Sources informed that Pakistani Inter-Service Intelligence operatives have covertly trained and armed members of LTTE to carry out attacks in India. Even more so after the Indian Peace Keeping Force was deployed in the Island since late 1980s.

Reports indicate that LTTE have also been selling sophisticated arms and explosives to the Maoist factions across the country.
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Sachin wrote:And of course you have the Keralite politicians who support these ridiculous claims in order to get minority votes in Kerala.
this is a repeating theme across India. Does it mean the "Silent Muslim majority" votes en-mass for the politicians who support Islamic-Jihadists?

In such an event can they be termed as "silent" majority?

Why is it so difficult for an Indian muslim to say that "Shiva/Vishnu" are names of the God (same as Allah) and Kasi == Mecca? What are they afraid of in a "secular" India?
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Sachin wrote:And of course you have the Keralite politicians who support these ridiculous claims in order to get minority votes in Kerala.
True. 14 > 82 :roll: Even In Kerala, Muslims are 25%, Hindus were 56% in 2001. (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Kerala ) and 25 > 56 .

Sachin wrote:Secondly arming every one with a rifle or a pistol would not yeild any positive results. People first should be trained to use it, and should have the mental courage to use the weapon efficiently. Or else, it would be easier for the criminals as they can use the weapons from the common citizens and use it against them.
So do you support weaponization of us commons TODAY, right now, or oppose it? Because "no guns till everyone has training and mental courage" sound more like throwing an infinite date, which same as a NO. And pray, how I gauze my or anyone's mental courage? Is there any agency which gives me certificate that I have mental courage to use a gun? What test would they take? All this delaying and dallying is just like saying "you wont get guns till jehadies have roasted you alive.

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Dear All,

First, my sincere thanks to Raghavendra, Darshann etc to bring gun rights issue which is very relavant to the Internal Security thread. I wanted to bring this issue here since Jan-2008, but was afraid of getting banned, and so waited for someone else to bring the issue.

KPs in valley didnt have guns, which is why they had to flee and live in slums in Delhi. Otherwise at least they would have killed a few before dying and that would have deterred them. During partition, 10L died without killing even 1L as they didnt have guns. In Moplah riots in Kerala in 1920s, 1000s died as they didnt have guns. Same will repeat in NE, WB, Kerala and many parts of India. So choice is yours --- do you want want to let us commons have guns TODAY, right now? Or do you want to wait till we have training, till we have given written exams on how to use guns, till all of us have read manuals, till all of us have literacy to read the manual, till we have mental courage, till we have paid bribes to pass all exams etc etc etc. Choice is yours, but do note that when partition like violence repeats in India, the infinite wisdom in not allowing us commons to bear guns was one reason behind it.
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Rahul Mehta wrote:So do you support weaponization of us commons TODAY, right now, or oppose it?
Just to put the record straight and also to ensure that the thread does not get derailed :). I do NOT support weaponisation of Indian society at large. As it is law enforcement agencies are having lots of problems, now let us not add to the mess by allowing every one get an opportunity to fire each at others as well.
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This seems to be BIG news. Expect lots of SF actiity soon on the Myanmar borders:
Indian forces can enter Myanmar chasing terrorists
Indian security forces can enter Myanmar to hunt for terrorists after taking due permission from Myanmarese authorities, it was decided here Monday.

And to boost their crackdown on Indian separatists hiding in Myanmar, it was also decided that Myanmarese security officials have promised to learn English or Hindi to overcome communication problems.

The decisions to curb trans-border movement of terrorists, arms smuggling and prevent drug trafficking came at a meeting of officers from the Indian home ministry and Myanmar's Chin state.

Both sides agreed to improve border security and share information on cross-border terrorism, a Mizoram home department official said.

The meeting took place in eastern Mizoram's Champhai town Friday.
The official said: "Myanmar authorities have agreed to allow Indian security forces to enter Myanmar territory along the border after getting permission from the (local) army post commander."

The Indian delegation was led by home ministry's joint secretary S. Singh and the Myanmar officials headed by U. Nay Wing, the army commander of Chin state.
According to Indian officials, several militants from the northeast have taken shelter in Myanmar and Bangladesh and have set up bases and training camps.

"After the Bangladesh crackdown against northeast militants, many Indian guerrillas took shelter in the jungles and hills of Myanmar," a Border Security Force (BSF) official said.
The official said that though Mizoram was the only state in the region free of separatist activities, militants from other states occasionally used its borders for safe passage.

The next meeting of the border liaison officers will be held in Myanmar in April 2011 to review the progress of the joint action.
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Was just reading the book written by E. Rammohan IPS - "Simply Khakhi" (recommended by ASPuar). He has served a large number of his service years in the North Eastern states. The borders between Myanmar and Indian territory seems to be quite porous. And the various tribes and clans present in the area :eek:. It is quite confusing for a normal reader like me. The book is interesting and so now reading it with the Indian Road Atlas at my side :).

Came back to say: Can we have a ready reckoner for the North Eastern states and tribes as well ;).
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Sachin wrote: Can we have a ready reckoner for the North Eastern states and tribes as well ;).
I did a few, some were posted here. I am too bored to dig them out of this thread, so let me do a shady thing and point to the blog where I find it easy to search.

There are eight (in contrast to the Seven Sisters claim) Sister states, with the major terrorist footprint coming from Assam, Nagaland and Manipur. Plus, one has to see the Darjeeling-Gorkhaland, Bangladesh, East Nepal, Bhutan, Burma, etc. as one huge continuum rather than as a piecemeal set-up. In any case,
1) Assam is a BIG state with a complicated whine profile. The major terrorist outfits are ULFA (standing for "ethnic" Assamese), NDFB (for ethnic Bodos), and DHD/Black Widows (for ethnic Dimasas). Assam has splintered so many times from the 1947-Assam that the only Hilly districts these days are North Cachar Hills and Barak Valley, where the Hmars, Bodos, Karbis and Dimasas dominate.
Assam and its players: http://dharma-yuddham.blogspot.com/2010 ... ayers.html
ULFA: http://dharma-yuddham.blogspot.com/2010 ... dates.html
NDFB: http://dharma-yuddham.blogspot.com/2010 ... -ndfb.html
I have nt done anything explicit on DHD yet, but both the Nunisa faction and the Garlosa faction are out, the first in parley mode, the second in jail.
2) Nagaland is a different ball-game altogether.
http://dharma-yuddham.blogspot.com/2010 ... galim.html
Naga National Council (NNC) used to be the biggest outfit. After the signing of the Shillong Accord with Rajiv Gandhi, NNC splintered as the Thuingaleng Muivah-Isaac Chwu-SS Khaplang group did not like the peace terms set by AZ Phizo. Some claim that Phizo was representing the Angami Nagas, and the more numerically preponderant Tangkhul Nagas and Konyak Nagas disagreed with him. (Even today, the Muivah group is on uneasy peace with the body that stands for Angami Nagas.) Thus came NSCN. NSCN again splintered into NSCN (IM) and NSCN (K), primariily on intra-tribal terms with the former standing for Tangkhul Nagas and the latter for Konyak Nagas. Konyaks are primarily there in Arunachal Pr., overlap certain areas of Burma (Sagaing Division and Kachin state) and inside Nagaland not much else than the IM group. The Tangkhuls are not only there inside Nagaland, but also the blockaded area in Manipur, where the ANSAM (All Naga Student Association of Manipur) fights inside Manipur for the IM body. This is where the demand for Nagalim gets a big push from. If GoI/MHA accedes to this demand, there will be further Balkanization of the Northeast, and realignments across the borders, with noone to predict how violent the repurcussions will be. Hence, noone picks up the Nagalim ball.
3) Manipur is a nightmare of a story with >20 outfits and complicated trade-offs between different outfits. All this in a state that is half the size of the largest district in India. There are more terrorist groups in Manipur than there are districts. Perhaps as many terrorist outfits as there are dialects. In any case, the GoI's blind and callous lack of interest in Manipur when the ANSAM and NSF blockaded Manipur for 69 days can only be a moral boost to the terrorist outfits in Manipur. It is a notable thing that PC spent most of his recent sojourn in Manipur.

I am not treading on Manipur (or understanding the picture) due to the time that is needed. To give a flavor, UNLF the biggest outfit there owes its origin to the union of Manipur Princely state with the Indian Union in 1949. Its leader (who is now arrested), Sana Yaima is a member of the erstwhile Royal family. The stated goal is to form a sovereign Manipur by uniting the various parts of Manipur splintered off across the other states and Kabaw Valley, which the Manipur Kingdom lost to the Brits and is now a part of Burma. So despite an overwhelming Vaishavite (the correct name is Bishnupriya) feel to Manipur, it hardly has much else in common with a completely different whine-profile.
4) Meghalaya is primarily a Garo vs. Khasi whinefest
http://dharma-yuddham.blogspot.com/2010 ... alaya.html
Some say that the new outfit GNLA has overt support from the political class to ensure that it extorts well.
5) In Tripura (the pre-47 picture had the Kingdoms of Manipur and Tripura and Assam Province of British India), the Bengalis more or less dominate the day-to-day proceedings (they almost always have even around Tagore times due to unbridled and open borders) with >70% of the population and the whine-fest centers around "indigenous" tribals (Reangs, Debbarmas, Jamatiyas, etc.) vs. Bengali "immigrants". The latest episode was in renaming the airport in Agartala: the Bengalis wanted it to be named after Tagore, the tribals after the last Manikya king who had brought Tagore to Tripura (btw, both were very good pals!). I thought I had a profile of NLFT vs. ATTF somewhere on my desktop, but I dont think I have it on my blog yet.

6-8 ) Sikkim and Mizoram are more or less fine/peaceful except for the Gorkhaland/Kamtapur stuff in the former and other state terrorists harboring in Lushai Hills in the latter. Arunachal Pr. sees its territory used as a safe haven by NSCN (both IM and K factions), and NDFB and ULFA to get to its turf in the Upper Assam area, so Arunachal does nt have home-grown terrorist stuff. Or so claims its HM, Tako Dabi. It is only time that some body comes to fight for the rights of Arunachalis given the governance deficit there.

If you ask me, what the hell is going on, I do not see the complete picture yet, but whatever I see is this: a mish-mash of various indigenous/tribal groups, with numerous terrorist outfits that claim to fight for the various rights/whine profiles of these groups (the language based whine profile needs an altogether different understanding: http://www.idsa.in/occasionalpapers/Nor ... aokip_2009), having cross-border affinities, safe-havens and training grounds, extorting and kidnapping at will and siphoning off of GoI development funds to fund their underground economy. In short, the Government is often not in the picture in the scheme of things and massive governance and trust deficits are par for the course in the Sister States. The underground economy funneled by terrorism is an industry of its own, and even if we can bring in all the players to the table, cutting off the roots to the funneling/extorting business is a far bigger task than we imagine. To my statistically poorly trained eye, a huge differential between male and female literacy % seems to have a high correlation for violence (http://dharma-yuddham.blogspot.com/2010 ... ction.html), but that trend seems to apply even across the LWE corridor. Obviously that is over-simplifying a complicated picture, but eh, what else do we do when we have such a dizzying proposition as understanding violence in the NEast.
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Pratyush wrote:Mecca Masjid blast accused also linked to Samjhauta train attack: NIA

The dog and pony show continues.

Lets not jump the gun, lets see what the inestigation reveals certain Hindus are guilty let them be charged as such, but that does not justify- 1) Paki terrorrism 2) corruption within India, CWG 3) fake encounters, murders etc in all states including outside Gujarat 4) Murders in name of Naxalism 5) mismangement of the economy and foreign policy.

BTW why have other news outlets other TOI not yet reported this, what are they waiting for? I thought all of them would jump with this kind of news?
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^ Just yesterday congress general secretary digvijay accused RSS of causing the Samjhauta train attack and today NIA applies for court warrant. Amazing speed shown by congress chamchas in NIA which is missing in other cases that its investigating.

congress party has turned NIA into its personal vendetta settling agency and hopes to discredit the opposition by such stupid actions. These fools must be taught a lesson.

States ruled by opposition parties should immediately file corruption, terrorism and money laundering cases against top chamcas close to bofors family.
Partial List
Sheila Dikshit
Rita Bahuguna Joshi
Digvijay Singh
Ahmad Patel
Rahul Gandhi
Vidya Stokes
If u have more names keep adding

If the Opposition keeps quiet now the duffers in the congress will view this as an victory and move towards more oppressive measures, need to crush the heads of these congress mad dogs now.
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Congress wants to up the ante on saffron terror before BJP ups the ante on corruption / JPC. Expect more of the this as & when BJP starts on corruption...
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NIA seems to have got lots of approvals quickly within the last few days.
NIA gets nod for prosecution of accused in Panayikkulam SIMI camp
This was one of the earliest terrorism related cases in Kerala. The police had raised an auditorium after it got wind of some suspected activities going on there. The police had picked up a few folks, but soon the investigated petered out. There was a strong rumour that a KP officer posted in Ernakulam District (an officer who came up the ranks) had put pressure on the local police to let go the accused.
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Pratyush wrote:Mecca Masjid blast accused also linked to Samjhauta train attack: NIA

The dog and pony show continues.
So, the US was lying when it designated a Paki pig as the main accused? Or did the RSS and LeT jointly organize it?

Cant believe the levels one can stoop just to catch votes... :roll: :roll:
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ANy idea why other news orgs(online) are not covering this yet? We should be expecting this to be headlines for the next 2 days and forget about scams and lack of any action on other terror related cases.
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This is very confusing first the Hyderabad blast and now this Samjhauta blast. What's going on. Either the investigating agencies got mis-directed earlier and now are in the right track or some politics is in the play. Very strange that a group of few people can execute so many blast and especially the Samjauta blast is a sophisticated blast.

Let NIA file a chargesheet first
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sum wrote:
Pratyush wrote:Mecca Masjid blast accused also linked to Samjhauta train attack: NIA

The dog and pony show continues.
So, the US was lying when it designated a Paki pig as the main accused? Or did the RSS and LeT jointly organize it?

Cant believe the levels one can stoop just to catch votes... :roll: :roll:

Besides US evidence that LeT financier Arif Qasmani was involved, Headley's wife's testimony also points in the same direction.
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Normally every Indian victim gets 5 lakhs ex gratia compensation. But Pakistanis (Samjhauta Express) were given five times that much.
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Besides US evidence that LeT financier Arif Qasmani was involved, Headley's wife's testimony also points in the same direction.

Its a plot to thwart BJP move toward JPC. Gov machinery is in full throttle mode to arm-twist Hindutva forces. They think its the best way to kill the JPC cat - something that they dont want to happen.
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Why is the rest of the dhimmi media silent on this Samjhauta news except for the ToILET? Or maybe it is another faux pas as the last time when a connection b/w Samjhauta and Purohit was sought to be made in Nov 2008 which was retracted by Hemant Karkare himself.
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http://news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?705854
Two undertrials made a sensational claim before a local court today that they had been provided with a pistol and a knife allegedly by Tihar jail officials to kill two Commonwealth Games officials lodged in the high security prison on corruption charges.
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I was wondering with so much of hype about "hindoo" terrorism being created by Kangress, will IM or PigLeTs target Muslim center of interests to take advantage of situation? If they succeed in crystallizing the idea, then what could be the potential targets could be?
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vijayk wrote:http://news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?705854

Two undertrials made a sensational claim before a local court today that they had been provided with a pistol and a knife allegedly by Tihar jail officials to kill two Commonwealth Games officials lodged in the high security prison on corruption charges.
Very interesting.

Firstly, the murder conspirators must be extremely powerful, if they can subvert Tihar Jail officials. Secondly, they are probably beneficiaries of the CWG scam - so this probably goes up very high in the INC hierarchy.

This is reminiscent of the Allahabad High Court PF scam. The main accused, who had implicated many senior Judges, suddenly died in jail under mysterious circumstances.
The undertrials also claimed that they were also given a countrymade pistol to kill the CWG officials but this was taken back by the jail authorities.

The duo have also alleged that Amit was transferred from jail number four to the high risk ward of jail number five and he (Amit) was threatened as well.

Three former top Organising Committee officials T S Darbari, M Jayachandran and Sanjay Mahendroo are presently in judicial custody in Tihar jail.
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Centre Issues Terror Alert for Mumbai, Ahmedabad
NEW DELHI | DEC 21, 2010

Acting on specific Intelligence inputs that Pakistan-based terror group Lashkar- e-Taiba was planning to strike Mumbai and Ahmedabad, the Centre has sounded an alert for the two cities and asked authorities there to tighten security.

The police forces of the two cities have been put on high alert and specific instructions have been issued for taking all possible steps to foil any attempt by LeT terrorists to disturb peace, official sources said.

The Intelligence inputs suggested that LeT teams have already entered Mumbai and Ahmedabad and may strike at any time.

Security forces have already launched "house-to-house" searches in some specific areas. Additional forces have been deployed in all sensitive and crowded places, including markets, religious places, bus and railway stations.

Both Mumbai and Ahmedabad had faced several terrorist attacks in the past including the November 26, 2008 strike in the commercial capital and September 25, 2002 attack on the Akshardham temple in the Gujarat capital.
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I am a bit confused here, TOI as per the above report states that Asimanand has admitted to carrying out the Samjautha Blasts case and there is prima facie evidence for it whereas its sister channel Times Now is stating NIA has obtained permission for questioning Asimanand regarding the Samjautha Blasts case??

Can somebody explain to this poor abdul as to what the actual facts are??
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I wonder if the stage is being set for a partial or new Emergency to save the family?
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ramana wrote:I wonder if the stage is being set for a partial or new Emergency to save the family?
India is run by very very powerful mafia and cartels. Anything is possible and I will not be surprised.
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In 1975, INC was in very good position and yet ended up declaring Emergency as the ground shifted from their feet. The current series of scams one bigger than the other leading to loss of confidence in the INC and the demand of opposition for JPC could have similar undesirable impact. Hence the cresendo of Hindu terror is being raised to set the stage in case things go sour.
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Hindu reports:

Security stepped up in Mumbai; LeT threat lingers

Might want to inform Rahul mia of why the alert was sounded.
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As India gets rich, it's trading Gandhi for guns
Police say there has been an alarming rise in gun violence in and around Delhi over the past few years as weapons proliferate. Illegal factories have become so common that country-made guns are sold like candy in local bazaars. And as more and more people seek to obtain legal, licensed guns, an organization modeled on America's National Rifle Association has emerged with the mission to ensure every Indian the right to bear arms
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And its not run by Rahul Mehta?
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ramana wrote:Hindu reports:

Security stepped up in Mumbai; LeT threat lingers

Might want to inform Rahul mia of why the alert was sounded.
LeT is a front for the RSS, and Gilani and the TSPA is a stooge for the BJP. So the alert is still consistent. If facts do not fit the agenda, then the facts must be reinvented and extended to fit the agenda.
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India's own Charlton Hestons

http://www.indiansforguns.com/

Judge S.U. Khan of RJB judgment fame recently gave a favourable decision for people seeking arms licenses. Check out the video of the young girls (< 14 yrs) learning how to shoot straight.

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The many Rahul Gandhi's of India remind all of us why McCaulay deserved Lordship.
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ramana wrote:Hindu reports:

Security stepped up in Mumbai; LeT threat lingers

Might want to inform Rahul mia of why the alert was sounded.
Ramanaji you should send this video tape to clueless retard Rahul G

The Govt. of west Bengal recently declared a ban on Cow slaughter by the order of the Calcutta High Court.
Here the angry Muslims mullahs gathered in Tipu Sultan Mosque and telling before the journalists that "Muslims don't Care the laws of the land, we will do with our Muscle power so it does not matter this ban or not, when the Muslims need to do the Kurbani , we will do it. This is part of our religious rights. Govt. dare not try to stop us, then the consequences will be far and wide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiAN_87I ... r_embedded
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