Telangana Monitor

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 17 Dec 2010 06:29

Muppala garu,

Swami Agnivesh in his speech on Telangana Garjana dais talked about Karnataka Lokayukta Mr. Hegde and said that the new Telangana state would follow that model.

Any idea on Mr. Hegde and his links? I know he is behind Yadyurappa. Did he (directly/indirectly) play any role in that K'taka pub incident involving Ramasene?

Born on 16 June, 1940, at Nitte Village of Karkala Taluk, Dakshina Kannada District, Justice Santosh Hegde did his Law Degree from Government Law College, Bangalore, (Presently University Law College, Bangalore). After completing his graduation in law, he Joined the Bar in January 1966. Justice Hegde was appointed as the Advocate General of Karnataka in February 1984 and continued till 1988.

Justice Santosh Hegde was appointed as Additional Solicitor General of India in November 1989 and held the office for 11months and he was the first person to be so appointed from Karnataka. In November 1998, he was appointed as Solicitor General of India, and incidentally, he is the only person to be so appointed from Karnataka so far.

After retirement from the Supreme Court in June 2005, , Justice Hegde was appointed as Chairperson, Telecom Disputes Settlement Appellate Tribunal, New Delhi on 6.7.2005 and functioned in that position till 2 {+n} {+d} August 2006. Husice Santosh Hegde was appointed as Lokayukta of Karnataka State from 3 {+r} {+d} August 2006 for a 5 year term.

JwalaMukhi · Post by **JwalaMukhi** » 17 Dec 2010 07:10

Agnivesh for a while seems to piggyback on the popularity of other personalities. More likely an agent who infiltrates other strong bastions.
He, Chidu, BabaRamdev all converged in a convocation of deoband seminary last year. Everyone (including BabaRamdev) spoke with pure secular credentials.
http://news.rediff.com/report/2009/nov/ ... ulanas.htm

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 17 Dec 2010 07:31

Agnivesh is a difficult character to know. He is there for a long long time on the p-sec side or actually socialist side. He used to be a friend of Late Thakur Chandrasekhar. He is a popular character even before BJP/RSS assent in modern India. The real surprise to me is that he is also another Telugu brahmin with a famous last name. He was more with tribals etc,. and as maoists started Tribal acquiring operations, he became close to them. Once you get into Naxals, you have to be a bigger supporter of Telangana because they have an illusion that will be center of future ops.

JwalaMukhi ji that was too much of a meeting that happened and it is very difficult to read anything as everyone is there in that meeting. It is one of those peace meetings where every one attends for secular PR.

jiteshn · Post by **jiteshn** » 17 Dec 2010 12:43

Telangana peoples infatuation with communist led peasant revolts dates back to indian independence. It was an uprising by the poor against the oppressive regimes. The image of a farmer disappearing into the forests with a long brown rifle represents defiance against the powerful.

The naxals came to being in the late 60's. How the hell do a few morons from bengal spin this to their own liking and claim to be the descendants?

They need a whoop-ass from the original biological descendants.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 17 Dec 2010 20:03

It it does not show that there is exploytation then it is very diffucult for the people from non telengana areas to accept division. I dont know how many follow this matter on TV I heard clearly the voice of TRS MP Vivod( or is it Vinay) saying that all the governament reports on developments are lies and they dont belive them. So we are back to squire one.

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 17 Dec 2010 20:32

Narayana Rao wrote:It it does not show that there is exploytation then it is very diffucult for the people from non telengana areas to accept division. I dont know how many follow this matter on TV I heard clearly the voice of TRS MP Vivod( or is it Vinay) saying that all the governament reports on developments are lies and they dont belive them. So we are back to squire one.

unless ofcourse the reports say exactly what they want to hear

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 18 Dec 2010 01:24

In case this was missed
Lanco Deal signals arrival of India Inc. in Australia

Lanco acquires a coalmine company for its six power plants in India.

Lanco is owned by L Rajagopal the MP from Andhra Pradesh.

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 18 Dec 2010 01:44

ramana wrote:ILanco acquires a coalmine company for its six power plants in India.

Lanco is owned by L Rajagopal the MP from Andhra Pradesh.

Specifically vijayawada in Kosta. and was the first MP who resigned after Dec 9 Chidu's telangana announcement, which made the dominoes fall and put an egg on Sonia's face.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 18 Dec 2010 03:39

Trapper Jagan to do Congress "Khali" in Coastal and Seema districts. Mass exodus may be there if they announce Telangana.

JC: 'Bald Congress' in Ananthapur soon?
YS Jagan bags two Congress ''Raju'' leaders

Congress seems to be trying to pull him back as per this news.
వైయస్ జగన్ తో రాజీ యత్నాలు?

Dasari · Post by **Dasari** » 18 Dec 2010 11:00

ShyamSP wrote:Trapper Jagan to do Congress "Khali" in Coastal and Seema districts. Mass exodus may be there if they announce Telangana.

Congress seems to be trying to pull him back as per this news.
వైయస్ జగన్ తో రాజీ యత్నాలు?

If this is true, they may be readying to announce separate T. Without Jagan on their side, they cannot announce separate T. If they do, it could even threaten Congress Govt at the center.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 18 Dec 2010 18:26

Jagan going back to INC is also not possible. His credibility will go down and especially after the waves that he is making in the coastal areas are considered, I think he will go with his regional party and negotiate with INC or Third front and whatever based on his MPs strenght after next elections. I don't think there will be raproachments between him and Sonia as both will look incredibly stupid.

One more thing we are making a mistake here. Jagan may not be a factor at all regarding Telangana decalaration irrespective of what they want to do. If SKC does not give it un-ambiguosly a recommendation for Telangana it will not form. In such a situation there is no need of politics.

If SKC recommends Telangana then the political situation comes into play.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 19 Dec 2010 07:25

State plans shutdown of varsities from Jan 1

With the situation in universities once again threatening to turn volatile as the deadline for submission of the Srikrishna Committee report nears, the state government is planning to order a shutdown of all universities from January 1 to 25 in the name of “short-term vacation”.

According to official sources, the Governor and Chancellor of universities, Mr E. S.L. Narasimhan. has called an emergency meeting of all VCs on December 26 at the Raj Bhavan to discuss the issue and the measures to be taken to curb agitations and violence on campuses after the Srikrishna Committee report is submitted.

If SKC recommends Telangana why should deployments be in Telangana region? There is no news of security or deployments from other parts of AP. I would say it is unprecedented the whole planning that is going on. ESL Narasimhan is ex-IB person and is directly dealing with intel and security. This is something very odd. I have never seen Governor involved in administration. He seems to be the real home minister of AP.

Is it all psy-ops and will it be a dud as all these areas where these huge deployments are happening will be in huge celebrations?

Dasari · Post by **Dasari** » 19 Dec 2010 11:32

My prediction is exactly opposite.

I believe SKC has lot of credibility as neutral panel. If SKC finds that there is absolutely no discrimination or backwardness based on region, the T movement is over. TRS knows at that time that no amount of violence can split the state. I strongly suggest and believe that center will let the movement take its natural death. Any use of force, will unnecessary create new reasons.

On the other hand, if SKC is very sympathetic to T but falls short of separate T (based on the mandate given to them), and it is central decision to split or not, then there will be large scale violence as they believe that they are very close to the finish line and one more push will force center to approve separate state. This is the only scenario where they need forces to control the violence while center gauge the fallout from both areas.

jiteshn · Post by **jiteshn** » 20 Dec 2010 20:04

AICC report says YSR did not favour T state

Hyderabad, Dec. 19: There was no mention of the demands — for and against Telangana — of Congress MPs from the state in the AICC report on the important affairs of Andhra Pradesh since 2006.

The chronological report, however, mentioned a statement of YSR. It reads: “On 3rd April (2006) AP Chief Minister Y.S. Rajasekhar Reddy categorically said that the state would remain united and the demand for statehood to Telangana region materialising was not bright. On 2nd May the chief minister said that Congress President Smt Sonia Gandhi’s word on separate Telangana was final and she has not spoken about it so far”.

Similarly on page 322 (events of 2009) it states: “Though the Congress put up a spectacular show in the Lok Sabha election, winning 33 of the 42 seats, the party had to struggle to secure a simple majority in the Assembly polls. Congress improved its Lok Sabha tally by four seats as compared to 2004 when it won 29 seats. But in the case of the Assembly (polls), its overall strength came down from 185 to 156 seats. The main opposition TDP doubled its tally. The TDP, which formed the Mahakutami (great alliance) with TRS and Left with the sole aim of defeating Congress remained far from majority”.

Referring to the developments of 2010, the AICC report did mention about the incidents leading to the resignation of Mr Y.S. Jaganmohan Reddy. “On 19 July, Congress warned Jaganmohan Reddy that his comments on the Central leadership and Chief Minister Rosaiah were not in the best interest of the party and that the party would act”.

“Again on 21 August, the party warned him of disciplinary action if he went ahead with his yatra. Jagan Mohan Reddy has been consistently defying the Congress central leadership by undertaking the yatra and by making unflattering comments about Congress in his television channel”.

It appears that telangana has exposed everyone in the state.

A tribute on DC's website

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 21 Dec 2010 05:31

What is the strategy of CBN in his indefinite fast and the substantial response from farmers that followed. Truely all regions have responded. Would he be able to sustain the movement until Jan 5th?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 21 Dec 2010 06:43

Muppalla wrote:What is the strategy of CBN in his indefinite fast and the substantial response from farmers that followed. Truely all regions have responded. Would he be able to sustain the movement until Jan 5th?

The plight of the farmers is very bad. And the ruling party is busy attending the coronation session and cant care for the farmers.

CBN hs health problems. Hope they don't let him become a victim.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 21 Dec 2010 08:46

^^^^
The response was pretty good to CBN protests. A lot of folks came from Nizamabad, Mahaboobnagar and Rangareddy districts. The response was pretty good in all regions. Good or bad, there is a real difference. He is going after peoples' issues and other are going after things like Telangana, CM ship and other sundry stuff.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 21 Dec 2010 09:35

Those other problems in Andhra Pradesh

When Chandrababu Naidu sits on a hunger fast for suffering farmers, you know something is afoot in Andhra Pradesh. Excessive rains have devastated the crops in the State. And losses have been enormous. But a farmer losing over Rs.15,000 on an acre of paddy will get less than Rs.2500 in compensation. And the nature of land relations in Andhra Pradesh ensures that most tenant farmers won't get even that.

Yet, it is the political shifts that are less seen. If — and it is very much an ‘if' — present trends intensify, Andhra Pradesh could see an election within a year. And not just over Telangana. That election could throw up big surprises and a new regional formation of some strength.

The ruling Congress seems preoccupied with shooting itself in the foot. Faced with an array of issues that demand attention, it has focussed all its energies on fighting Jaganmohan Reddy. The highlight of the handling of Telangana was not to address the problems of that troubled region but to order the son of Y.S. Rajasekhara Reddy not to go there for any kind of campaign. In public perception, rightly or wrongly, this was writing off Telangana to the Telangana Rashtra Samiti. For those opposed to statehood for the region, this seemed a betrayal. They recall how ‘YSR' had undermined K. Chandrasekhar Rao whose previous resignation saw him lose strength in the Lok Sabha. This year, KCR's TRS swept the region. For those demanding a separate state, the Congress has promised little and delivered less. Not a single one of their burning problems has been taken up, let alone resolved.

The State government needed to tackle a growing crisis on many fronts, farming being one of them. A year of total paralysis under K. Rosaiah meant this did not happen, even though the then Agriculture Minister tried to reverse some awful policies flowing downwards from the Centre. Ultimately, the Centre's policy direction on agriculture had to further undermine small farmers everywhere, including Andhra Pradesh.

Already, the lack of land reform within Andhra Pradesh makes the plight of tenant farmers — who account for a third of the farmers in the State — a lot worse. Tenancy farming has grown and the AP Kisan Sabha estimates there are 40 lakh such farmers across the State. Most lead a life bogged down in anxiety, tension and debt. The few rights they have are fragile, the farms they operate are failing even without natural calamity. They account for a large number of farm suicides in the State. Even when compensation is paid out for crop losses, these are grabbed by the owner whose land the tenant has leased for farming, since the land is in his name. Getting loans from banks is sheer torture. (At this point, Collectors in some districts are appealing to bankers to extend credit to tenant farmers.) The banks have not given out even a fraction of these loans promised to tenant farmers by official diktat.

Tenant farmers have little security of tenure and are subject to rack-renting. Three commissions in recent years, those headed by Jayati Ghosh, Dr. M.S. Swaminathan and Konneru Rangarao have made major observations and recommendations relating to this group. In practice, the government has done nothing about them. And as times get worse for farmers as a whole, tenant farmers take a bad beating.

Then there are the problems of the MNREGS, once doing relatively better in Andhra Pradesh than in many other States. The past year has unsettled a once-working programme. Again, for many, this compares badly with the YSR period when in districts of Anantapur there was a member from almost every household at the NREG sites in many villages. Back then, distress migrations had actually fallen in districts like Mahbubnagar as the NREGS expanded. So quite a few do hark back to that period as one of hope. Even in urban Andhra Pradesh where the YSR government restored lakhs of BPL cards cancelled by the Naidu regime.

There are also the issues of mega projects and the lakhs of people displaced by those. Of flawed irrigation projects, dubious land deals, and a bizarre number of SEZs. These and major corruption scandals were pretty much a part of YSR's time, too. However, the negative outcomes of some of these would unfold more slowly. So in the 2009 elections, the positive policies paid off — while the bills for the destructive ones would and will come in later. So in public perception, the YSR era comes out looking good compared to the chaos of the present. As of now, a lot of this translates into public goodwill for Jaganmohan Reddy. While this situation lasts, the negatives of his own politics, ambition, character and charges of corruption might seem less important to those fed up with the way things are now. These problems could well catch up with him but at present, he seems to be on a roll.

That Mr. Naidu, of all people, has decided to go on a hunger strike in support of suffering farmers confirms that the Opposition sees the government as being in real trouble. Yet the Congress mess-up has not seen Mr. Naidu gain greatly so far. As for the Praja Rajyam Party of Chiranjeevi, it now seems a severely edited scene in the unfolding drama. If the present trends hold, the default gainer could be Jaganmohan Reddy and his yet to be named new party. The Congress will be the big loser — beyond the State too, given Andhra Pradesh's importance to its strength at the Centre. With Tamil Nadu also in flux, the Congress problem becomes national. Its allies know it is in trouble. Note Sharad Pawar's increasingly strident criticisms of government policies.{wtf - he is part of the government and how can he criticise. Where are the Pawar news in the media?}
The more the Congress has tried to can Jaganmohan Reddy, the more — so far — he gains. Indeed, its perceived “insults to the YSR legacy” could translate into a matter of regional pride that works in favour of YSR's son. Jagan Reddy has made deep forays into the districts and the Congress is unable to counter him. More important, the public response to his visits has been impressive and, at least for now, appears to be growing. Sitting Congress MLAs show up at his meetings. Followers of other parties attend them in big numbers.

Large turnouts to receive him at railway stations have made the Congress nervous. The party's shot at playing Reddy politics has shown little success so far. And the splitting of the YSR family has not gone down well with a public already seeing Jagan Reddy as the wronged party.

It's a classic Congress dilemma. The party has no leaders of any consequence in the State (or most States) because that is how it needs it to be. It cannot allow the emergence of strong State leaders independent of the Centre. YSR was an exception. The same problem in Maharashtra has seen it bring in a Chief Minister with no base, let alone a State-wide standing. It matters little now, who it makes Chief Ministers in the States — it has no leaders. Anyone seen emerging was choked off. In Maharashtra, where the NCP was an endangered species, it gets a new lease of life. In the just concluded Assembly session, Deputy Chief Minister Ajit Pawar seemed dominant. While Prithviraj Chavan appeared to be wondering what he had got himself into. In Andhra Pradesh, it gets more embarrassing, where to fight Jagan Reddy the Congress has to (without saying so) oppose dynastic succession. Something it is not best qualified to do. A growing number of Congress supporters seem drawn towards Jagan Reddy.

It can, of course, prolong its tactical manoeuvres. It is the most experienced political force in the country at that. But Andhra Pradesh might not be so easy to control from here on. The report of the commission on Telangana is barely two weeks away. It will certainly recognise the historic neglect of that region and its huge and long ignored problems. Whether it advises statehood for it or draws up a list of options including that one, who will contain the fallout? Either way, there is turbulence ahead. Who is the State leader who commands respect in all regions? What happens if and when the number of MLAs joining Jagan Reddy's camp reaches a critical mass? What will the Congress go to the people of Telangana and Andhra with in the event of an election? Leave alone the next State polls — which could happen two years ahead of schedule if the Congress government folds — the by-elections to the seats vacated by Jagan Reddy and his mother will prove humiliating. The results could see a bigger flow of MLAs towards him. Across all regions of the State, the Congress is between a rock and a hard place.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 21 Dec 2010 19:53

^

Couple of indicators.

In Andhra Pradesh, it gets more embarrassing, where to fight Jagan Reddy the Congress has to (without saying so) oppose dynastic succession. Something it is not best qualified to do. A growing number of Congress supporters seem drawn towards Jagan Reddy.

Dynastic politics, is one of the pillars of INC, the other three pillars being Gandhi/Independence, Socialist-secularism, Indian poverty/illiteracy.

If INC declines dynastic growth for other leaders and insists that it will be done per family's dictats, the second/third level leaders have little hope for their families. YSJ is the epitome of this decease; he wants dynastic transition extended to CM level positions, not just MLA and MP positions which is a common theme across India. The next logical step would be ministries (Andhra Pradesh already has a wife (Sabita Indra Reddy) of dead Home Minister getting elected as an MLA and becoming a HM in three consecutive cabinet reshuffles); and cabinet ministers.

The only alternative for a second-level congress leader with reasonable local standing is to start a regional party, which started with Pawar. Pawar's successful handling of the state level and federal level politics is the new text book for all the upcoming 2nd level dynasties.

So, next 10 years it could be many regional outfits of ex-congressmen with 5-10 MPs and 25-50 MLAs forming coalition govts with INC at state level supporting the dynasty at central level.

It will take at least 10-15 years (2-3 administrations) for the regional parties and opposition (BJP or other) to remove a couple of congress-pillars from public mind (socialist-secularism and poverty/illiteracy in my opinion) so that INC becomes irrelevant for these ex-congress regional setups.

I view Bihar, UP, Haryana, Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu (Swatantra Party) from this perspective.

I predict INC's dismemberment in 2020-25 time frame. Perhaps yuvaraj is the last in this dynasty completing some 70-90 year cycle (based on when one starts).

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 21 Dec 2010 20:00

This is the time for BJP to introduce Primaries in their party. You elect your own candidates should be the slogan

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 21 Dec 2010 20:15

^ That is a good idea. One challenge though is to make money (Rs 1-2 cr per MLA seat as required in current situation) irrelevant.

One solution is to allow the winner to conduct fund raising and keep 80-90% of funds for his/her campaign.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 22 Dec 2010 05:14

BJP when it comes to power next time should introduce legislation to regulate internal elections in political parties and provide that local party members elect the MLA and MP candidates of that party and decide on the election tie ups. Year to year elections to the positions in the parties at every level will remove all the power brokers at Delhi and state capitals from the scene.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 22 Dec 2010 05:57

What if local interests tend to compromise on issues that run contradictory to the national level policy or viewpoint or long term objective?

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 22 Dec 2010 20:14

brihaspati wrote:What if local interests tend to compromise on issues that run contradictory to the national level policy or viewpoint or long term objective?

Can you give an example of how members electing their candidates will compromise our national goals? We definitely need to consider all such scenarios.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 22 Dec 2010 21:00

^ He was talking about local interests being in contradiction to national interests.

For example: What is the local issue in Telagana agitation? But it "can be" not in the interests of united Andhra. A few view Kashmir valley terrorism is a local issue; while it has grave implications on national interests. Same with NE militancy or Red-corridor etc.,

B-ji: My take is this. There may be umpteen local issues. But the nationalistic political organization must take up only the issues that enhance the national interests and cohession while achieving local respite and resolution. I agree that it requires some intellectual investigation and hard work; but not impossible IMHO

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 23 Dec 2010 00:23

Finally, god answered my prayers.

Yuvaraj has decided to lead the state affairs of AP.

Telangana birathers - now you will see the change. Telangana region will surely become a golden-gana and Seemandhra region a gem-seema...

AoA onleee

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 23 Dec 2010 00:37

RamaY wrote:Finally, god answered my prayers.

Yuvaraj has decided to lead the state affairs of AP.

Telangana birathers - now you will see the change. Telangana region will surely become a golden-gana and Seemandhra region a gem-seema...

AoA onleee

so the emperor's son is being sent to crush the vassal's rebellion.

Note the 1857 rebellion of Jhansi started for the same reason that the overlord british(Sonia) did not recognise the progeny (Jagan).

Any links??

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 23 Dec 2010 02:24

I welcome the move too. At the minimum a certain faith alliance/front will show up and expose itself in jubilation. What if an infamous TV channel brings out a special episode of Ramayana "apaharana" parva? The "northern" prince comes and one side joins him to destroy the other side, and the Bhumiputra Baliraja is to be ambushed and killed unethically so that Bali's opponents could get exploit the land!

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 23 Dec 2010 03:10

Ravi_ku garu,

http://telugu.greatandhra.com/mbs/news/dec22_news1.php

B-ji,

I hope that the politically active local media does a sting-op on yuvaraj exposing his minority affiliation and his brahmacharya-vrata

Some times character assassination is more effective than physical one.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 24 Dec 2010 20:26

There is nothing new in this. Non-T Congress leaders want to close any option for Congress to give state based on sentiment. In the absence of any objective and factual recommendation by SKC, it comes to sentiment of the people.

Kavuri is saying same sentiment should be applied across India to create 500 or 1000 of states wherever districts they are making demands and creating violence by burning buses. If they want to go to previous state for Telangana, they should undo language-based states and put the country back pre-Andhra state and get all Hyderabad districts (including ones from Karnataka and Maharastra) and put the Hyderabad state back.

That leaves Telanaga leaders to prove their claim of "Dochukunnaru" (stole T region funds and resources) if they want state.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd5711gSb0w

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 25 Dec 2010 04:48

Received this fwd via email. Some 'security agency' assessment of jan situ in Hyd:

Dear Colleagues,
Please find below update from our security agency:

“About 50 Companies of Central Para Military Forces are being deployed in Andhra Pradesh from 24th December 2010 onwards in the context of Sri Krishna Committee is scheduled to submit the report on Separate Telangana State by 31st December 2010. The Law & Order problem is being anticipated on submission of Sri Krishna Committee Report may have repercussions of protests, Dharnas, Rastha Roko’s, Rail Roko’s, Looting, Arsines, Stone Pelting, attacks on private and public properties may takes place by the activists of Telangana Rashtra Samithi and Joint Action Committee of Osmania University Students Union, Advocates, NGO’s and other activists. The trouble is more anticipated in Telangana region particularly in Hyderabad and Cyberabad City Commissionerate limits. Around 18 companies of Para Military Forces are going to be stationed in Hyderabad and Cyberabad Twin Cities and 2 companies at all Telangana Districts are being deployed for the maintenance of Law & order situation.

The Hyderabad and Cyberabad Twin Cities Police Commissionerates has been geared up with the Para military Forces, A.P Special Police, Task Force, Rapid Action Forces, Special Branch and Intelligence Wing deploying them at vulnerable locations i.e at Cordoning of Osmania University covering all entry and exit points, Secretariat, Assembly Premises, all entry points from various Districts to Hyderabad City, Residences and Offices of Ministers, Prominent Leaders, MLA’s, M.P’s and other VVIP’s and at IT Sectors and at the Prominent Business Locations covering bigger Shopping Establishments etc. The Secuirty arrangements have been planned to deal and tackle with any likelihood of untoward incidents, Law & Order Problems, Protests, Rampage”

Dasari · Post by **Dasari** » 26 Dec 2010 06:16

Could be a last act of desperation or a feeling of being very close to finish line? Which one is it?

Take party, give me state: KCR to Congress

HYDERABAD: Telangana Rashtra Samithi (TRS) chief K Chandrasekhara Rao says he's willing to merge his party with Congress if the demand for a separate Telangana is met. This is the first such categorical assertion from the mercurial politician.

"What is the need for my party after Telangana is formed," Rao, aka KCR, said at a meeting of Telangana Group-1 Officers here on Saturday. He was responding to Congress MP Sarve Satyanarayana, who had earlier suggested that the TRS boss join Congress and lead the Telangana movement.

"I'm ready to dissolve my party. We'll wash Sonia Gandhi's feet if she gives Telangana. Ours is not a regular political party, it is associated with a movement. Give us Telangana and we'll dissolve the party," KCR asserted.

KCR's statement signalled a significant shift. He had earlier said TRS would continue as a party even after Telangana had been formed. He had, however, asserted that if the state was carved out with Congress support, his outfit would work to strengthen that party. This had been read as a promise of support by KCR to the UPA.

Analysts see KCR's statement as a bait he's offering. Going by the drift of things, the Congress leadership in Delhi doesn't seem to be in a mood to concede Telangana. "But in Andhra Pradesh, Jagan Mohan Reddy is queering the pitch for Congress and KCR is saying you give me Telangana and take my party," an analyst said. "There's also an unsaid premise. Make me CM of Telangana and I'm all yours."

KCR during his address on Saturday needled Telangana Congress leaders and said if they had the courage, they'd pressure their high command to introduce the Telangana bill in the budget session of Parliament.

Reacting to Sarve's gripe that the TRS chief was constantly criticizing Telangana Congress leaders, KCR said: "Why are these Congress leaders afraid to resign? Why are they so afraid of the high command? When their Seemandhra counterparts don't have such fears, why are these leaders afraid to speak out?"

The TRS chief reiterated that he would fast unto death if the Telangana statehood process was delayed. KCR's statement came just ahead of the report of the Srikrishna Committee that is expected to come out with a few possible solutions to the problem of Telangana and the rest of Andhra Pradesh.

- The Times of India

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 26 Dec 2010 06:55

The 50 company police& para deployment is being talked about for some time. see my earlier post. If all these arrangements are being made then is it a safe precausion or some indication of the things to come. INC want to take risk of giving Telangana against the wishes of the state legislature or not is the only question. What is politically suitable to them or what they think suitable to them. With the level of "expertise" now at the top of INC I fear they only end messing up things of AP

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 26 Dec 2010 08:12

Dasari wrote:Could be a last act of desperation or a feeling of being very close to finish line? Which one is it?

Take party, give me state: KCR to Congress

"Trapper" Jagan failed to attract non-Congress (I consider PRP as Congress as it is surrendered). That leaves he pulls only Congress voters. In such scenario, it is wash out for Congress in non-T areas. TRS surrendering to Congress opens more opposition space for TDP (and for BJP as well) and TDP can win its areas except T core areas.

From whatever I remember from election voting shares and assuming no EVM corruption, best case for Congress, in case of split, is that it can win 12 (all in T), TDP+ can win 24 and Jagan can win up to 6 MP seats.

If they stay put, Congress still loses but retains vote shares in all regions. Jagan will be wash out eating into Congress only a bit.

We need to wait and watch on how Congress plays it out. Congress and BJPs' wet dream of screwing regional parties may end up with more violence as regional parties may retaliate for survival.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 26 Dec 2010 09:29

KCR's statement is a trap for Congress. That trap comes with a huge cost. If congress thinks that Seemandhra areas are gone anyway for Jagan or TDP and let us save the T then that is only useful if they go for snap polls to LS. However, even in that case they are not in a position to sweep T. If they are not looking to go for snap polls, they will see a loss of at the least 15 INC MPs in case of T creation. They have dug deep pits around them and they go anywhere they will fall into one of them.

To me, the "C" system has created the mess and it used AP as coleteral damage in its war against Sonia. It is also first time in history that a party is openly campaigning against Sonia. Anti-congressism is there but not a party dedicated to anti-first family.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 26 Dec 2010 09:48

You are all under estimating Jagan. YSR Created a big criminal/corrupt empire in AP which now Jagan trying to inherit. After some initial problems I think he is slowly coming into the grips of the things. He is going to people where are congress leaders are sitting in Delhi for minister posts. Had Congress is having some intelligent leadership in in Delhi and AP it would have managed him well. But Sonia gang is too stupid for that.

Most PRP people will jump to Jagan once Chiru tries to join with congress. Congress if joins with PRP has to answer in Telangana how it is joined with a Samaikyawadi party. Further PRP does not have transferable votes. No one voted for PRP will vote for congress automatically. Caste equations sound good from outside and tv studios in Delhi but AP people are not that stupid. Remember Chiranjivi himself lost his own town seat in the last elections.

I have spoken with people in some areas in AP and as per all the indications Jagan is a force. How big we have test in the elections. Congress minus YSR is any way is a spent force and will be wipped from the map. TDP will retain its vote bank every where including Telangana, (may be a lesser extent in Telangana) but they will have good chance to form next government. If congress joins with TRS before any elections most of the congress leaders from rest of the AP will leave congress and may be most of the 22 Congress MP’s may even be forced resigne and union government may fall.

On Telangana no decision will be there and emotions will be whipped by KCR and others immediately after the SKC report. So violence from TRS gangs and pro naxal groups will result in fall of the state government and presidential rule will be there for some time. This time force may be used on the Telangana activists from police side also.

Only core TDP supporters and the Jagan gang are the people who will be fighting it out any future elections.

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 26 Dec 2010 13:11

http://www.eenadu.net/panelhtml.asp?qry ... panel6.htm

Everything was going in normal style of KCR rants until the last portion caught my eye.

Headline: Govt funds for building Churches.

When the telangana state is formed, I undertake to build Churches with Govt money. There will one slot always for Christians in the state cabinet. While participating in the christmas celebrations at the centenary methodist church, KCR told that Christians will get their due rights only in the new state. I have alloted 25 lakhs for building a church in Mahboobnagar, and will be spending similarly every year.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 26 Dec 2010 16:08

Similarly he is promissing to muslims also.

Just now KK telling on TV that they will be resigning to their posts on 31st Dec 2010. It includes 11 MP's of congress also. If that happens INC will be in serious problems in Parliament. But saying yes will result in losing 22 MP's from rest of AP. Congress is going to have interesting times.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 26 Dec 2010 19:53

I don't understant why T politicians make such bizzare statements. Instead of making blackmailing and threatening statements they could wait until 31st. It may be possible that SKC may have written to give T. At that time they can take the advantage of the commission report and talk with high moral ground when the otherside makes nuisance statements.

If SKC did not write in favor of T then they have all the opportunity to make these kind of statements.

Ridiculous strategy.

Dasari · Post by **Dasari** » 26 Dec 2010 21:15

At this point I doubt that the MPs don't know what is there in the report. Knowing that there is something for separate T in the report, they may be trying to cash it as if they would resign if the report is not favorable. However, as Muppala eluded , with this premature chest beating, they are hinting that SA MPs should resign if the report is not favorable to samaikhyandhra. The simple equation until now is that Congress cannot dare to lose SA for the gain of T. However, if Congress thinks that they lost SA regardless of T, then they may try to hang on to T. KCR's offer of merging Congress with TRS is a very interesting statement with this perspective.