KL Dubey wrote: ↑09 Nov 2024 01:26
chetak wrote: ↑08 Nov 2024 10:54
what exactly are you defending, Dubey ji
Careful there....I am not defending anything or anybody, nor do I need to "get anyone on my side" or argue about sh!t. I am just calling out the pattern of "manufactured outrage" resulting from lack of context (I have pointed this out before), which creates an artificial paranoia.
For the fourth time, I am saying the NE is more restive compared to most other parts in Bharat. The reasons are well understood. The borders with BD and Myanmar are both porous and not properly secured.
However, the Bharat sarkar apparatus is working purposefully in this situation to secure the Myanmar border, and to sort out the internal differences between the states/tribes/ethnic groups.
I didn't see any depth or context in your posts. Simply stringing together well-known NE issues with a couple of wishful thinking speeches to create a false/misleading impression.
In the Indian framework there is legitimate space for ethnic/religious/other groups to voice concerns on internal security/borders etc, but the central government makes the decisions and there is a limit to autonomy/free choice. If Lalduhoma turns rogue, Bharat sarkar will know (and act) long before people on BRF start reacting to 2-3 months old speeches and consider it a distinction.
Dubey ji,
ask yourself why did this news make it to SM and one paper (at first) only after the initial blackout of, as you call it "2-3 months old speeches "
and now, after the initial reportage, why has it gained this much amount of traction
sedition wasn't removed from the constitution, it was replaced by treason, (for a very good reason) the new laws made are much more broad based, with a wider applicability and "legitimate space for ethnic groups to voice concerns" is permitted ONLY under the umbrella of the Indian constitution, and not in some "Akhand Bharat" This hasn't changed since the Indian constitution was first made
The Indian constitution does not include the right to secede, and the constitution does not include the words or phrase "Akhand Bharat", but snake oil salesman laldhuhoma has subtly spun his abrahamic web and slyly pitched it under "Akhand Bharat" to divert attention by misleading statements and also to not attract penalties under the treason provisions
That is why the DS is hammering into India, via the various orifices of the dimwit, the dangerous idea that India is a "federation of states" and just as each state voluntarily "federated" into India, it can also "un" "federate" out of India, at will.
This is the shifting of the overton window which they hope will lead to a constitutional amendment some time in the future so that one can "un" "federate" with benefits, meaning with a legal share in the family property like during the 1947 partition
India, as a whole is allergic to the words partition, separatist, terrorist, calls for "nationhood" and cries for "secession" etc
So, there is no "legitimate space for ethnic groups to voice concerns" UNLESS these (legitimate) concerns fully fall under the umbrella of the Indian constitution and laldhuhoma's fulminations (claiming territory from three countries) are certainly not covered by the conditionality of "under the umbrella of the Indian constitution".
What are some elements in cashmere doing, or did in panjab, is it under the umbrella of the Indian constitution, and what has been the response from the GoI to such "voicing of (legitimate) concerns".
The disturbances in the manipur area, why did they start when they did, and why was it relentlessly kept alive by the BIF fed papers and presstitute journos and more importantly, why did the GoI keep such a low profile, and not interfere too much in manipur
the regime change in beediland
laldhuma opening his orifices, both in India and the US, (of course he was only "voicing concerns" while openly seeking secession)
the three are connected because they are coordinated with the regime change at the center.
It is like an athlete peaking to maximize traction for an event, and not, as is being projected in some quarters, a flatulent and harmless 75 year old man, just passing gas
I didn't see any depth or context in your posts. Simply stringing together well-known NE issues with a couple of wishful thinking speeches to create a false/misleading impression
right back at you Dubey ji, but not many can match the eruditeness that is always so very evident in a majority of your postings. how do you do it so consistently, must be really exhausting
and always remember, my friend, that every word, phrase or sentence including any combination thereof ever spoken by you or I, and will be spoken by either of us, going forward has already been spoken or written somewhere, by countless millions who have "been there and done that"
so less of such woke throw aways.
the mizos have always been antsy with words like "nationhood" and such treasonous crap is neither to be encouraged or sympathised with, no matter whose classmate is involved
It is here that we differ
I saw, at first hand, what real damage was done to camaraderie in tight knit micro societies by the few khalistanis in the crowd and how some of those rifts continue to divide even today
and "legitimate space for ethnic/religious/other groups to voice concerns on internal security/borders etc" is always constrained and tightly limited under the legal confines of the constitution. No exceptions whatsoever. No one has any rights out side of what is covered under the constitution
you are aware that laldhuhoma's BIF backed demands pose an existential threat and will open the flood gates to more such illegal demands from other disgruntled players propped up by the same BIF, thus giving richer and bigger enemies the chance to meddle in India's internal affairs on "humanitarian" grounds
This strategy was already tried out during the eelam war when BIF groups gained a foothold in TN and operate even today through the padres and the woke commies, by influencing politics and making state govt policies to aid their cause while actively using the state machinery and the judiciary in subverting and supressing the aspirations of the majority and grabbing temple resources, all in the name of sickularism
but you already knew all this, so it's back to my unanswered question: what exactly are you defending .....
is it laldhuhoma's illegitimate and preposterous (claiming territory from three countries) demands and his fundamental right to "legitimate space for ethnic/religious/other groups to voice concerns on internal security/borders etc" even if it is against the constitution of India (while many of the mizo terrorists in the state are actively engaged in human, narcotics and arms trafficking, thus violating internal security laws and transgressing national borders across multiple countries)
or is it the authoritative majesty and the absolute supremacy of the laws enshrined under the Indian constitution where all Indian citizens are deemed to be equal under the law
I trust this GoI and the work being done, and I don't trust your reliability in these matters at all. Before Modi sarkar, I would not have trusted the GoI either, which made a mess of the NE. 
